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[00:15] <NigeyS> hmm sdcard shield is DOA :|
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[01:05] <NigeyS> rar weeeeee
[01:05] <NigeyS> wasnt there a launch set for tomorrow ?
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[01:09] <natrium42> really? who?
[01:09] <NigeyS> willduckworth i think
[01:09] <NigeyS> i swear it was this w/end
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[02:22] <NigeyMoby> Boo
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[04:54] <Dently> Anyone around?
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[11:58] <Darkside> http://imgur.com/BkT48.jpg
[11:58] <Darkside> w00
[11:58] <Darkside> SDR
[11:59] <DanielRichman> :O
[11:59] <Darkside> :P
[11:59] <DanielRichman> I thought there was PSK around where the arrow is pointing
[11:59] <Darkside> thats from an RFSpace SDR-IQ
[12:00] <Darkside> it might be
[12:00] <Darkside> its why i have a ? there, i hadn't demodulated it to check
[12:00] <DanielRichman> 7.035
[12:00] <DanielRichman> usb; uk & europe; lots of psk31
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[12:00] <Darkside> true
[12:01] <Darkside> i might take a closer look around there
[12:02] <Darkside> my antenna is shithouse though
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[12:03] <Darkside> i just see a lot of morse here
[12:03] <Darkside> i need a better antenna...
[12:03] <DanielRichman> maybe it's different in that part of the world
[12:03] <Darkside> mine is coupled to ground at a few places along its length
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[13:18] <NigeyMoby> Afternoon
[13:19] <SpeedEvil> yup
[13:20] <NigeyMoby> Eyup speedy
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[13:54] <NigeyMoby> Jcoxon headers in the post
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[14:09] <LsquaredB> its rather snowy out there
[14:09] <LsquaredB> http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/global-warming-al-gore.jpg
[14:15] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/5211108179/
[14:15] <SpeedEvil> snowy here too
[14:17] <LsquaredB> http://www.moonraker.eu/Amateur-Radio/Beam-Antennas/ZL-Special-Yagi-Antenna/ZL7-70-70cm-7-ELEMENT-SPECIAL-YAGI-ANTENNA
[14:17] <LsquaredB> not bad
[14:18] <LsquaredB> suspiciously high gain figure
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[14:22] <LsquaredB> http://www.moonraker.eu/Amateur-Radio/Beam-Antennas/VHF-UHF-Yagi/Moonraker-Yagi-Antenna/YG13-70-70cm-13-ELEMENT-YAGI-ANTENNA
[14:23] <LsquaredB> how can that only get 1dB more
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[14:42] <Darkside> diminishing returns
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[15:43] <NigeyS> anyone watching the tennis?
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> No.
[15:44] <NigeyS> :/
[15:44] <NigeyS> glad i'm not an umpire mind, the dude just got wacked with a 130mph server ball :|
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> I tend to only watch ladies tennis.
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> And ... Well - it's not for the tennis.
[15:47] <NigeyS> haha those cute young eastern europeans eh :P
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[15:48] <NigeyS> hey phil!
[15:48] <fsphil> g'day NigeyS
[15:48] <LsquaredB> http://www.k7mem.150m.com/Electronic_Notebook/antennas/yagi_vhf.html
[15:49] <LsquaredB> interesting - looks like some of the moonraker ants have dBi and dBd mixed up
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[15:50] <fsphil> 1 dBi = 3 dBd isn't it?
[15:50] <jonsowman> other way round if anything surely?
[15:50] <LsquaredB> other way round, and 2.3dB difference
[15:50] <fsphil> isn't the i for isotropic?
[15:50] <jonsowman> yes
[15:51] <jonsowman> and d for dipole
[15:51] <fsphil> ah!
[15:51] <fsphil> gotcha
[15:51] <LsquaredB> well... for dBi/£ theres a £50 ant with nearly 15dBi...
[15:51] <LsquaredB> but its 1.9m long !
[15:51] <LsquaredB> for portability theres 11.5dBi for £40 and 70cm long
[15:52] <LsquaredB> and dBi/£ wise its only 3% more expensive
[15:53] <LsquaredB> im over analysing arent i :P
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[16:42] <LsquaredB> what the http://www.giss.nasa.gov/tools/latex/ltx-73.html
[16:42] <LsquaredB> why does nasa run a latex help site ?!
[16:43] <LsquaredB> their mission: to boldly make pdfs... where no pdfs existed before
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[17:09] <NigeyS> f***ing sdcard annoying me now
[17:15] <LsquaredB> trying to do fat?
[17:17] <NigeyS> yeah, ive checked the solder points, continuity checked all are ok, and i just keep getting clobbered with error 1,ff
[17:18] <NigeyS> got no card reader here though, so used the android phone to format, which by default formats to fat32 so it should still run
[17:21] <LsquaredB> might be that card
[17:21] <LsquaredB> not all work in spi mode properely
[17:22] <NigeyS> afaik the sandisk 2gigs work ..
[17:22] <NigeyS> bloody annoying
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[18:57] <LsquaredB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqemNzvJVJ0
[18:57] <LsquaredB> so much fail
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[19:26] <SpeedEvil> Somewhat off-topic.
[19:26] <SpeedEvil> I want a wing to test something with. Ideally, this would be a symmetrical aerofoil, about a metre long, and maybe 10cm deep.
[19:27] <SpeedEvil> very stiff
[19:27] <SpeedEvil> Is tehre an alternative to DIY?
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[20:08] <LsquaredB> SpeedEvil: buy a toy plane?
[20:11] <SpeedEvil> yeah - suppose that's where I'm going.
[20:21] Action: LsquaredB rages at dvipdfm
[20:21] <LsquaredB> weird offsets on various bits of eps
[20:24] <LsquaredB> have to hack the graphics to counter the offset errors
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[20:47] <LsquaredB> http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/3f/Jimbo-hooker.jpg
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[20:58] <NigeyS> lol
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[21:07] <SpeedEvil> I liked the previous one better.
[21:08] <Dently> Hi. Can someone dirtect me to a forum/group where I can get help configuring my GPS?
[21:09] <Dently> *direct
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[21:18] <NigeyS> ok, so whos better than me at trying to fix this carrier shift? :/
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[21:43] <NigeyS> ello fsphil
[21:44] <fsphil> hello hello :)
[21:44] <NigeyS> hows you dude ?
[21:45] <fsphil> not too bad, enjoying the snow ;)
[21:45] <fsphil> you?
[21:47] <NigeyS> not enjoying the snow! lol
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> First proper snow here
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/5211108179/
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> actually - first - we've not had a dusting
[21:51] <SpeedEvil> Oh fuck off.
[21:51] <NigeyS> eek lots of white stuff!
[21:51] <SpeedEvil> I've just looked at next weeks forecast
[21:51] <NigeyS> lol
[21:51] <fsphil> lol
[21:51] <SpeedEvil> I really hope it's wrong.
[21:51] <SpeedEvil> -15C
[21:51] <fsphil> about 6cm of snow here tonight
[21:52] <fsphil> and it's still snowing
[21:52] <NigeyS> -7 here tonight and no more snow forecast for south wales, yipee!
[22:00] <Tvilling_> Yay.
[22:00] <Tvilling_> And I have to change the front brakes on my car this weekend. :/
[22:01] <SpeedEvil> Just drive backwards.
[22:02] <LsquaredB> lol
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[22:27] <SpeedEvil> http://goo.gl/maps/7lUo
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> Fun with orthorectification
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[22:38] <LsquaredB> its the singularity
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[22:43] <LsquaredB> http://selenianboondocks.com/2008/01/orbital-access-methodologies-part-i-air-launched-ssto/
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[22:54] <SpeedEvil> Night all!
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> Possibly going to sleep.
[22:54] <NigeyS> nn dude!
[22:55] <fsphil> or hibernating through winter?
[22:57] <NigeyS> wish i could
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[23:14] <jonsowman> hi jcoxon
[23:15] <jcoxon> Hey
[23:15] <jcoxon> Anything exciting been happening?
[23:15] <NigeyS> snow :p
[23:15] <jcoxon> Not here :)
[23:15] <jonsowman> none here either :(
[23:16] <NigeyS> be :) not :( lol
[23:17] <jcoxon> I've got an interesting side project over Christmas
[23:17] <jcoxon> Might need some tracking...
[23:17] <NigeyS> oh?
[23:17] <jonsowman> go on...
[23:18] <jcoxon> Might try a superpressure using a v. Light payload and a mylar party balloon
[23:18] <jonsowman> oo
[23:19] <jonsowman> sounds good
[23:19] <jcoxon> Underfill it and it 'should've float
[23:19] <jcoxon> Ignore the ve
[23:20] <NigeyS> be interesting to see how far that gets :D
[23:20] <jonsowman> going to stick ATLAS on there?
[23:20] <NigeyS> speaking of tracking, got the shift fixed on my ntx2 to 325 :D
[23:21] <jonsowman> NigeyS: cool :)
[23:21] <NigeyS> yeah, it was 620 / 630 last night :|
[23:21] <jcoxon> A stripped down version, minimum components
[23:21] <jonsowman> probably a wise plan I guess
[23:21] <jonsowman> hehe
[23:21] <jcoxon> Use my last fsa03
[23:22] <jcoxon> And then wrap in foam + tape
[23:22] <NigeyS> hopefully it'll perform a bit better than the last fsa03 !
[23:22] <jcoxon> Indeed
[23:22] <jcoxon> This is aside to the next flight, hopefully get it done before Christmas
[23:23] <jonsowman> sounds good
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[23:24] <jcoxon> Will launch this superpressure either Christmas or boxing day depending on the predictions, as want it to go west rather then out to sea
[23:26] <jonsowman> :)
[23:26] <jonsowman> hopefully relaunching Apex sometime over the Xmas holidays too
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[23:27] <NigeyS> so wats superpressure ?
[23:28] <jcoxon> Okay so as the balloon rises the helium expands
[23:28] <jcoxon> Now normal latex balloons stretch and then burst
[23:28] <NigeyS> yuhuh
[23:29] <jcoxon> But if you use a material that doesn't stretch then the pressure inside goes up
[23:29] <jcoxon> And the balloon will actually stop rising and an equalibrium is reached
[23:30] <NigeyS> ahh i get ya, thats cool !
[23:30] <jcoxon> So NASA made proper pumpkin shaped balloons that flew high and for ages
[23:31] <jcoxon> They don't need to be that big
[23:31] <NigeyS> so if the pressure doesnt go up, what makes them .. well.. come back down ?
[23:31] <NigeyS> cause obv there's no burst right ?
[23:32] <jcoxon> Exactly, eventually you'll leak helium or they burst
[23:32] <NigeyS> ahhh, sounds really exciting actually, could end up anywhere..lol
[23:33] <jcoxon> The risk is that an imperfection doomsday it
[23:33] <jcoxon> Oops dooms it*
[23:33] <NigeyS> eek, hope not ! just give the fsa a good bitchslap before you release lol
[23:34] <jcoxon> So party balloons are small so the potential altitude is quite low
[23:34] <NigeyS> tbh i thought theyd be a bit too small
[23:35] <jcoxon> This has been done before in the states, using a mobile phone with a yagi pointing down (a little naughty)
[23:35] <NigeyS> lmao !
[23:35] <jcoxon> Need a very light payload
[23:35] <jcoxon> http://ivoryglobal.blogspot.com/
[23:35] <jcoxon> The info is a bit sparse
[23:36] <NigeyS> chicago > nova scotia .. crikey
[23:40] <jcoxon> Going to be a challenge getting it as light as possible
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[23:41] <jcoxon> Right night all
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[23:55] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/11/instant-heart-rate/
[23:55] <SpeedEvil> not really related to teh above
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