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[00:14] <Darkside> juxta_: good luck today
[00:14] <Darkside> i wishi could be there
[00:17] <Darkside> i see VK5ZSN is already there
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[00:23] <Darkside> and the balloon is on
[00:23] <Darkside> or so it seems
[00:24] <Darkside> and I have to go to work...
[00:24] <Darkside> ah well
[00:24] <vk3thx> where are you darkside
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[00:29] <juxta_> hi all
[00:29] <juxta_> yes, paylopad is powered up
[00:29] <juxta_> about to start inflating
[00:30] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[01:19] <vk3sl> Is the repeater operational?
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[01:22] <natrium42> hahaha, nice --> vk3thx
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[01:55] <pwoit> I have that sinkng feeling
[01:57] <pwoit> now its moving
[01:57] <natrium42> it's not launched yet
[01:57] <pwoit> oh gps data moved at least hehe
[01:58] <shenki> probably taking it down the hill into the paddock to launch
[01:59] <natrium42> hehe
[01:59] <pwoit> the guy responsible for blowing up baloon ran out of breath?
[02:01] <natrium42> looks like it launched
[02:01] <pwoit> yep
[02:01] <pwoit> where u at natrium
[02:02] <natrium42> canada
[02:02] <natrium42> you?
[02:02] <pwoit> melbourne aust
[02:02] <natrium42> the land down under
[02:02] <pwoit> listening see it reaches here
[02:02] <pwoit> if it*
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[02:05] <pwoit> 1500m
[02:06] <BURKO> did they only just launch?
[02:06] <pwoit> yep about 5 mins
[02:06] <BURKO> ah excellent, only just remembered about the launch and logged in, this is really cool
[02:07] <mazzanet> 1300 adst
[02:07] <pwoit> 2km in the air now
[02:08] <shenki> what acent rate were they aiming for?
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[02:10] <Vk3vil> Hi guys
[02:10] <pwoit> hi
[02:11] <Vk3vil> What height does this baloon expect to reach
[02:11] <Vk3vil> We are trying to contact through it from melbourne as part of national field day
[02:12] <mazzanet> we're in bendigo trying too
[02:13] <shenki> Vk3vil: usually about 35km is the max height. a fortnight ago we hit 32km
[02:13] <mazzanet> waiting for the footprint to enlarge
[02:14] <mazzanet> oh wow
[02:14] <Vk3vil> Yeah
[02:14] <mazzanet> so looking another half hour or so?
[02:14] <Vk3vil> We are trying to work out how high it needs to be to reach us here
[02:15] <Vk3vil> We are at scienceworks museum in melbourne with the emdrc station
[02:16] <mazzanet> we're at discovery science centre
[02:16] <mazzanet> with marc
[02:17] <pwoit> is the emdrc listen on another freq?
[02:17] <Vk3vil> We are listening on vk3rec
[02:18] <pwoit> ok
[02:18] <Vk3vil> We also have hf here but not on right this second
[02:18] <Vk3vil> No one is sitting there
[02:19] <shenki> Darkside: ping
[02:19] <mazzanet> we're lisyening on 434.65
[02:20] <shenki> Vk3vil: the prediction for this launch is burst at 31863m, at 4:30UTC
[02:21] <mazzanet> the balloon has a hf payload?
[02:21] <Vk3vil> Mazzanet are you on hf and we can tune up
[02:22] <Vk3vil> For the baloon we are listening 146.450
[02:22] <Vk3vil> Thanks shenki
[02:23] <mazzanet> ah there's a crossband rpt
[02:24] <mazzanet> 146.450/438.900 ctcss 123
[02:24] <Vk3vil> Yep thats it :)
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[02:27] <Vk3vil> Hmmm
[02:27] <Vk3vil> Tracker site is not giving me positioning info atm
[02:29] <pwoit> Position: -35.0434,138.9889 Altitude: 5440 m Rate: 2.7 m/s Speed: 57 km/h
[02:29] <Vk3vil> Thanks pwoit
[02:29] <shenki> http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[02:30] <pwoit> its about 40k from its origin
[02:30] <Vk3vil> Shenki. I am on there but i've lost the secton on the right with all the height and position info
[02:31] <pwoit> foot print is almost at mildura east and pt lincoln west
[02:32] <shenki> Vk3vil: as the flight progresses, the large number of data points makes the page quite slow to load, especially if you have a slow PC or net connection
[02:32] <pwoit> pt augusta nth and robe south
[02:32] <Vk3vil> Pwoit at what height would we expect the footprint to reach melbourne city
[02:32] <shenki> Vk3vil: make sure you're using chrome or firefox, and just give it a few minutes
[02:32] <Vk3vil> We are on an ipad for the site and my phone for irc
[02:32] <shenki> ah, yes, it wont work on the ipad :(
[02:33] <shenki> i tried it last weekend
[02:33] <Vk3vil> It worked earlier
[02:33] <Vk3vil> :(
[02:33] <shenki> yeah, the ipad struggles as soon as the number of data points gets large
[02:33] <pwoit> not sure what height im just watching hehe
[02:33] <shenki> not enough RAM i'd guess
[02:33] <pwoit> ipad shmipad
[02:34] <Vk3vil> Not mine and def not a fan :)
[02:34] <pwoit> Position: -35.0382,139.0413 Altitude: 6354 m Rate: 2.9 m/s Speed: 50 km/h
[02:34] <shenki> it's moving quite a bit furhter north than the prediction
[02:35] <pwoit> wonder if any stations have perched themselves on a mountain somewhere
[02:35] <shenki> pwoit: how do you work out the foot print?
[02:35] <pwoit> its on the web page
[02:36] <pwoit> has a radious outline showing
[02:36] <shenki> oh, that's the green circle. gotcha
[02:36] <pwoit> yep
[02:36] <Vk3vil> Gone to car to get a real laptop
[02:36] <pwoit> i can hear locals calling but no where near them unless they are up high
[02:40] <Vk3vil> Now the ipad is displaying again
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[02:41] <shenki> Vk3vil: cool. it probably just needs a bit more time - when loading up the page it maxes out the cpu on my laptop using chrome (whcih has kickass javascript performance). so it's no surprise the ipad takes a bit longer.
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[02:42] <Vk3vil> Good thing it worked to
[02:42] <natrium42> so the site gets really slow if there are alot of points, i recommend using Google Chrome
[02:42] <Vk3vil> I left my phone to lappy usb cable at home
[02:43] <pwoit> got bluetooth
[02:43] <Vk3vil> Thats a point
[02:44] <Vk3vil> I've always used the cable
[02:44] <pwoit> love my laptop and e71 got everthing i need
[02:44] <pwoit> might be a bit slow on bt but should work
[02:44] <Vk3vil> Have e71 at home but got n97 mini here today
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[02:45] <pwoit> e71 best phone ever in my book
[02:46] <Vk3vil> I prefer my 8910 but the e71 and n97 mini are very close
[02:47] <pwoit> Position: -35.0243,139.1828 Altitude: 8485 m Rate: 2.5 m/s Speed: 69 km/h
[02:47] <natrium42> does spacenear.us/tracker work on it?
[02:47] <natrium42> works on iphone :P
[02:47] <Vk3vil> Sheep phone?
[02:47] <Gnea> :o
[02:47] <natrium42> jesusphone
[02:48] <Vk3vil> Lol
[02:48] <natrium42> btw, nice callsign
[02:48] <natrium42> SpeedEvil needs one like that in the UK
[02:48] Action: Gnea tracks
[02:48] <Gnea> you guys just launched a little while ago?
[02:49] <pwoit> wonder which next voul they will use for tech industry e and i have been used already whats next
[02:49] <natrium42> me?
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[02:49] <pwoit> i launced about 10.30am
[02:49] <natrium42> pwoit, ìPhone
[02:49] <natrium42> íPhone, îPhone, ïPhone
[02:51] <Gnea> pwoit: oh, nearly 3 hours ago?
[02:52] <shenki> Gnea: nah, about an hour ago
[02:52] <pwoit> how do u pm someone
[02:52] <shenki> /msg <username> hello!
[02:52] <pwoit> meant i woke up at that time
[02:52] <pwoit> ok
[02:53] <mazzanet> there is no phone
[02:53] <pwoit> haven't used this chat form for years
[02:53] <Gnea> oh lol
[02:53] <Gnea> shenki: got some good over-the-land wind
[02:54] <shenki> Gnea: oh, yes! until a few minutes ago it was going ~50kmh
[02:54] <shenki> Gnea: now it's flying. 112km/h!
[02:55] <Gnea> I see that :)
[02:55] <Gnea> shenki: have you seen the pics from our last flight? http://sites.google.com/site/ssclisu/habet/habet-launches
[02:55] <shenki> Gnea: nup, i'll take a look now
[02:56] <shenki> there's a video from the limited on-board footage that horus 8 recorded online now: http://vimeo.com/15985847
[02:57] <natrium42> <pwoit> haven't used this chat form for years <-- you mean, IRC? :P
[02:57] <Gnea> cool
[02:57] <pwoit> yeah
[02:57] <pwoit> used to chat irc years ago
[02:57] <natrium42> 10km now
[03:01] <Vk3vil> Where do i see the footprint?
[03:01] <Vk3vil> Don't worry
[03:01] <Vk3vil> Just zoomed out
[03:01] <natrium42> where are you based?
[03:02] <Vk3vil> We are at the scienceworks museum in melbourne
[03:02] <natrium42> aah, still below horizon then
[03:02] <Vk3vil> Club station vk3er
[03:02] <Vk3vil> Yeah
[03:03] Action: natrium42 is on the other side of the planet
[03:04] Action: SpeedEvil is on the other other side of the planet.
[03:04] <mazzanet> club station vk3cmz here
[03:04] <Vk3vil> Ahhh okies
[03:05] <Vk3vil> Tsk tsk tsk
[03:05] <Vk3vil> All the chase cars are speedimg
[03:06] <mazzanet> we're working 20m
[03:06] <pwoit> chase van zsn better watch his speed
[03:06] <pwoit> might get a ticket
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[03:06] <Vk3vil> Vzi is better
[03:06] <Gnea> might be worth speeding given the circumstances at the time :)
[03:06] <Vk3vil> Oops he slowed right down
[03:06] <pwoit> vzi just stopped
[03:07] <pwoit> hope that wasnt a tree
[03:07] <Gnea> or an animal
[03:07] <pwoit> while looking at the ballon
[03:07] <pwoit> must be 110k on that road i think
[03:07] Action: Gnea enjoys the fact that all of the cars just happen to say 0m for altitude
[03:08] <natrium42> juxta, is the internal temperature sensor attached to the copper plate?
[03:09] <shenki> yeah, 110 on regional roads in SA
[03:10] <pwoit> wonder if thy chase cars are comms with each other via baloon
[03:10] <Vk3vil> Lol probably
[03:12] <pwoit> footprint is at ararat, kerang portland broken hill port lincoln
[03:13] <Vk3vil> Almost at bendigo
[03:14] <pwoit> what power o/p they using
[03:14] <Gnea> looks like it's out in the boonies
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[03:14] <pwoit> and are the chase cars little mazda 3's :P
[03:15] <Gnea> zoom zoom zoom :)
[03:15] <pwoit> wonder what perponda is like at this time of year?
[03:15] <Gnea> where is this 'bendigo' place? not seeing it on map...
[03:16] <pwoit> mid west victoria
[03:16] <Vk3vil> Southe east corner of the circle where the mast is
[03:16] <pwoit> oops NE of melbourne
[03:16] <pwoit> oop again
[03:16] <Vk3vil> Nw of melb
[03:16] <pwoit> NW
[03:16] <Gnea> so... victoria is where ya'll are at? sorry, my aussie geography is a bit weak
[03:17] <pwoit> where u at gnea
[03:17] <Gnea> oh ok i see it
[03:17] <Gnea> hehe, Iowa, USA
[03:17] <pwoit> ok im just south west of you here in melb :P
[03:17] <Gnea> haha
[03:18] <Gnea> just a little water between here and there, s'all good ;)
[03:18] <pwoit> Position: -35.0096,139.8047 Altitude: 14250 m Rate: 2.9 m/s Speed: 116 km/h
[03:18] <pwoit> couple of islands used as speed humps
[03:19] <Gnea> Time: 2010-10-23 03:18:36
[03:19] <Gnea> Position: -35.011,139.8172
[03:19] <Gnea> Altitude: 14357 m
[03:19] <Gnea> Speed: 117 km/h
[03:19] <Gnea> :)
[03:19] <Gnea> it looks like it'll stay within the province
[03:20] <shenki> getting cold up there, -20C inside. i wonder how the batteries are going
[03:20] <Gnea> or state, however it's called
[03:20] <shenki> heh, state :)
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[03:20] <shenki> biggest worry is that it will end up in the middle of the conservation park
[03:20] <shenki> looking at the offset between the predicted line and the current line, that's exactly what will happen
[03:21] <pwoit> i have visions of the beer advert
[03:21] <Gnea> beer in a tree?
[03:21] <pwoit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvIwsLty9Fo&feature=related
[03:21] <pwoit> watch from 55s
[03:21] <pwoit> hehe
[03:21] <Gnea> our HABET wound up in a tree.. it's taking them time to get it
[03:22] <Vk3vil> So does the unit have a parachute for when the baloon bursts?
[03:22] <mazzanet> just starting to break squelch here
[03:23] <shenki> Vk3vil: a tiny one. yep
[03:23] <pwoit> mazzanet: where are u
[03:23] <mazzanet> bendigo
[03:24] <pwoit> nice just where the footprint is
[03:24] <Gnea> pwoit: win. :)
[03:24] <mazzanet> yup
[03:24] <mazzanet> what's calculating the footprint?
[03:25] <pwoit> the webpage im look at :)
[03:25] <pwoit> looking*
[03:26] <pwoit> geez i hope the air traffic controllers are aware of its location
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[03:27] <pwoit> news tonight passegers on board flight from melb to adel claim to have seen a ufo
[03:28] <pwoit> Ballarat now
[03:28] <mazzanet> *hacks apart page*
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[03:33] <pwoit> its slowed down
[03:34] <shenki> and changed direction
[03:34] <pwoit> must have come to some traffic lights
[03:34] <shenki> climing pretty fast tho
[03:36] <Gnea> hmmm
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[03:38] <Vk3vil> Prob dropped out of jetstream
[03:38] <natrium42> mazzanet, see link at the bottom of page
[03:38] <mazzanet> ah
[03:38] <mazzanet> ta
[03:39] <mazzanet> ooh getting audio now
[03:39] <pwoit> guy in ballarat connecting
[03:40] <pwoit> I can hear little bit now
[03:41] <mazzanet> where are you?
[03:41] <pwoit> eastern subs melb
[03:41] <mazzanet> k
[03:43] <Vk3vil> We wont be to far off ourselves
[03:43] <VK3EEE> doing better than me then i've got nothing but on a handheld (ringwood)
[03:44] <shenki> heh, updated landing site puts it right in the middle of didnt-want-to-be-there
[03:44] <Vk3vil> The footprint hasn't reached melbourne yet
[03:44] <mazzanet> lost it
[03:45] <mazzanet> vk3ry i think i heard just before
[03:46] <Vk3vil> Just coming through sunbury
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[03:47] <Gnea> it's climbing very well now
[03:47] <Vk3vil> Shame chute deployment cant be delayed to change landing location
[03:48] <mazzanet> getting gain
[03:50] <shenki> hrm, who's playing silly buggers wiht the tracking. it just moved to south africa
[03:50] <VK3EEE> vk3vil look out the window might see the green line pass by
[03:51] <shenki> ah. GMT0. gps dropped out?
[03:51] Action: Gnea reloads
[03:51] <shenki> -25 internally
[03:51] <shenki> batteries dropping?
[03:52] <Vk3vil> Lol
[03:52] <Vk3vil> Not hearing anything yet
[03:53] <Vk3vil> But the line just went by
[03:53] <pwoit> signal 4 here
[03:53] <VK3EEE> lol
[03:53] <juxta_> ping natrium42
[03:53] <natrium42> yo
[03:54] <juxta_> hey, can yuou zap that buggy poosition?
[03:54] <natrium42> already ahead of you :D
[03:55] <natrium42> great launch so far
[03:55] <Vk3vil> Where are you pwoit
[03:55] <juxta_> thanks :)
[03:55] <natrium42> sure thing
[03:56] <juxta_> any idea why the car positrions had a few issues updating?
[03:56] <juxta_> eveything seems to be fine now but initially the positions were not updating
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[03:57] <natrium42> yeah, i changed a thing
[03:57] <natrium42> it was insertion sorting based on gps time -- changed it to server time
[03:57] <natrium42> nost sure why it bugs out with gps time
[03:57] <juxta_> ah awesome, thanks
[03:57] <natrium42> *not
[03:57] <juxta_> the radio horizon ring is working really well
[03:58] <natrium42> :)
[03:58] <juxta_> we can just hear some calls coming i9n from melbourne now
[03:58] <natrium42> that's the 0 degree horizon
[03:58] <mazzanet> i can hear but can't contact :(
[03:58] <natrium42> i could insert the formula for, say 5 degrees if you want
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[03:59] <cyberteque> hello!
[03:59] <natrium42> juxta_, btw the change also fixed car tracks
[03:59] <natrium42> hi cyberteque
[04:00] <juxta_> natrium42, 5 degrees could be good
[04:00] <cyberteque> how is the flight progressing? near biliat cons park, thats a nasty area to walk around in
[04:00] <juxta_> hi mazzanet, where are you
[04:00] <natrium42> yeah, no swimming this time :P
[04:01] <Vk3vil> I can now hear
[04:01] <shenki> natrium42: is the horizon ring code server side, or can i find it in the javascript?
[04:01] <natrium42> it's in the js
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[04:01] <shenki> which file?
[04:02] <shenki> ah, BDCCCircle.prototype.redraw
[04:02] <shenki> is that it?
[04:02] <natrium42> var horizon_km = Math.sqrt(12.756 * position.gps_alt);
[04:03] <cyberteque> is there a problem with spacenear.us/tracker/ ?
[04:04] <cyberteque> this is great! nearly 25km up!
[04:04] <mazzanet> bendigo
[04:04] <mazzanet> juxta_: ^
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[04:05] <Vk3vil> We are listening but not being heard it seems
[04:05] <mazzanet> same
[04:05] <Vk3vil> Club station vk3er trying to call
[04:06] <mazzanet> vk3wie is trying a lot
[04:08] <juxta_> WK3WIE succesfully in
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[04:09] <juxta_> cyberteque, flight is going well. expecting the decent to be faster so hopefully we may touchdown before the forest
[04:09] <mazzanet> anyone gettinh vk3wml?
[04:09] <cyberteque> ok, what is the target hieght?
[04:10] <cyberteque> height even
[04:10] <VK3EEE> squelch just opened here melbourne outer east
[04:10] <cyberteque> from the APRS page looks like it is coming back this way
[04:11] <Vk3vil> Around 32km
[04:11] <cyberteque> waa hoo!
[04:13] <vk7pl> Not going to hear it in Tassie !!
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[04:15] <mazzanet> heh middle of a park
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[04:16] <pwoit> i just got through
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[04:17] <cyberteque> 2km to go!
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[04:18] <Gnea> woo
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[04:20] <cyberteque> are you getting data as to how cold it is up there?
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[04:20] <mazzanet> woo
[04:21] <mazzanet> vk3wml here, got it mobile
[04:22] <cyberteque> wow! horizon is 606km away from the balloon!
[04:22] Action: natrium42 added 5 degree horizon
[04:22] <natrium42> just refresh
[04:22] <SpeedEvil> We've had - in the uk - contact at 550km
[04:22] <SpeedEvil> on 10mW
[04:22] <natrium42> SpeedEvil, does it look right to you?
[04:22] <SpeedEvil> what?
[04:22] <Vk3vil> Got to go. Phone batt dead
[04:23] <Vk3vil> Cya guys
[04:23] <natrium42> SpeedEvil, 5 degree horizon
[04:23] <natrium42> i.e. where balloon is above 5 degrees elevation
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[04:23] <SpeedEvil> oh
[04:24] <SpeedEvil> umm...
[04:24] <natrium42> 617 km for 0 degrees, 274 km for 5 degrees
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[04:24] <natrium42> http://ukhas.org.uk/communication:lineofsight
[04:24] <natrium42> that's what i used
[04:25] <SpeedEvil> not loading for some reason here.
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[04:25] <SpeedEvil> just refreshing
[04:25] <natrium42> are you using chrome?
[04:26] <pwoit> balloon about to burst
[04:26] <natrium42> too many positions :S
[04:26] <natrium42> SpeedEvil, but the drastic difference does make sense
[04:26] <natrium42> as the angle is very shallow, it covers a lot of distance
[04:26] <shenki> yep
[04:26] <shenki> err, wrong window
[04:26] <shenki> :)
[04:26] <SpeedEvil> no - ff
[04:29] <SpeedEvil> killed it, trying to do something before I go to bed.
[04:30] <cyberteque> is all this cloud cover hindering visual tracking? I'm in Echunga
[04:30] <pwoit> wheres echunga
[04:30] <shenki> almost at popping altitude
[04:31] <cyberteque> near Mt Barker, meadows, handorf
[04:31] <shenki> and importantly, still rising fast - no floater this week
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[04:31] <Vk3vil> Back
[04:31] <mazzanet> Vk3vil: i finally got it :D
[04:31] <mazzanet> stupud yaesu menus
[04:31] <Vk3vil> Whats uup with the height
[04:31] <pwoit> u get through?
[04:32] <mazzanet> set the tone but not encoding
[04:32] <Vk3vil> We had ctcss wrong to
[04:32] <pwoit> hehe
[04:32] <pwoit> im using ft8100
[04:32] <pwoit> simple and easy
[04:32] <mazzanet> got it mobile with 50w
[04:32] <pwoit> :)
[04:32] <mazzanet> 8800 here
[04:32] <Vk3vil> So why is height now 11km
[04:32] <pwoit> 31000m 31km
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[04:33] <Vk3vil> When it was over20km before
[04:33] <pwoit> horus Time: 2010-10-23 04:33:03 Position: -35.0242,139.9902 Altitude: 31965 m Rate: 3.2 m/s Speed: 25 km/h GPS Sats: 9 Internal Temp (°C): -16 External Temp (°C): -12
[04:33] <cyberteque> the aprs page seems to be dropping trailing zero's
[04:33] <shenki> heh, nice
[04:33] <cyberteque> thats chilly!
[04:34] <pwoit> its hovering over place called borrika
[04:34] <cyberteque> home straight! 32km! thats here to adelaide in height!
[04:35] <SpeedEvil> the temp looks a bit warm
[04:35] <SpeedEvil> oh
[04:35] <SpeedEvil> sunlight
[04:37] <Vk3vil> Hmmmmm
[04:37] <Vk3vil> Is it still going up?
[04:37] <shenki> yes
[04:37] <shenki> still cilmbing at about 3.5m/s
[04:38] <Gnea> seems to be holding a rather wild pattern
[04:38] <pwoit> what hieght is orbit??
[04:39] <cyberteque> avoiding karoonda! lol
[04:39] <Gnea> out of F2?
[04:39] <SpeedEvil> Orbit is not a height.
[04:39] <SpeedEvil> It's a speed - 8000m/s or so
[04:39] <SpeedEvil> near the atmosphere.
[04:40] <SpeedEvil> But to get an orbit at 35km that'd last one whole orbit would mean something with the density of a hundred m long cylinder of osmium.
[04:40] <cyberteque> actually "orbit" can be used to describe a circling motion, not just space craft
[04:40] <pwoit> its gotta pop soon
[04:40] <SpeedEvil> Sure.
[04:41] <cyberteque> heading northish
[04:41] <Gnea> Habet still has it beat :)
[04:41] <natrium42> <SpeedEvil> Orbit is not a height. <-- geostationary height! :P
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[04:42] <SpeedEvil> You can have something at geostationary height but not in a geostationary orbit.
[04:42] <pwoit> im getting signal 5 on vertical melbouren east
[04:42] <cyberteque> going for 34km!
[04:43] Action: SpeedEvil tries to remember the height at which you skim the atmosphere if you leap off a skyhook.
[04:43] <pwoit> be able to see stars
[04:43] <Gnea> 37058m is what you want to aim for if you want to beat Iowa
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[04:44] <pwoit> they should have put a cam recording on there
[04:44] <pwoit> 33999
[04:44] <pwoit> 34k
[04:44] <Gnea> well, 37059m :)
[04:45] <SpeedEvil> you can see stars at sea level in daytime
[04:45] <natrium42> come on, 35
[04:45] <natrium42> noo
[04:45] <SpeedEvil> you just need to know where to look
[04:45] <SpeedEvil> and binocs help lots
[04:45] <natrium42> burst detected
[04:45] <pwoit> on its way down
[04:45] <Gnea> d'oh :(
[04:46] <SpeedEvil> predicted good recovery area?
[04:46] <natrium42> it got very high
[04:46] <natrium42> nope
[04:46] <natrium42> predicted to land in a conservation area
[04:46] <cyberteque> after last weeks mythbusters we cant say "dropping like a lead balloon"
[04:46] <natrium42> with almost no roads L:S
[04:47] <Gnea> man
[04:47] <Gnea> that's gonna be rough
[04:47] <natrium42> no kidding
[04:47] <Gnea> natrium42: did you happen to catch apogee?
[04:47] <cyberteque> looks near the intersection of herrman and O'rielly road
[04:48] <pwoit> rapidly
[04:48] <Gnea> cyberteque: I wouldn't count on that preciseness until within 5 minutes of landing
[04:48] <pwoit> hope the chutes open
[04:48] <natrium42> Gnea, 34205 m
[04:48] <cyberteque> i guees the wind is different at all altitudes
[04:49] <cyberteque> this is sooo much better than my fm "bipper" on a paper hot air balloon
[04:50] <Gnea> natrium42: 112 221 feet
[04:51] <Gnea> minus the space
[04:51] <natrium42> yeah, puts it in 32nd place on http://www.arhab.org/records/records/haltitude.html
[04:51] <mazzanet> interesting path
[04:51] <natrium42> it's a very good result for payload carrying a repeater
[04:52] <natrium42> it's not the lightest
[04:53] <Gnea> yeah it is
[04:53] <cyberteque> if it keeps circling like this recovery shouldn't be too bad
[04:53] <pwoit> wait till the wind picks it up and about 10000
[04:55] <cyberteque> the BOM doppler says we have 20-30 km/h wind
[04:55] <cyberteque> wow! it really scooted east just then!
[04:56] <natrium42> horizontal speed is increasing
[04:56] <pwoit> jet stream at lower levels
[04:56] <Gnea> prediction seems to have improved over last time
[04:56] <cyberteque> holy wind speed batman!
[04:57] <Gnea> well it's falling too, so that likely has an effect
[04:57] <Gnea> just a little gust and whoosh!
[04:58] <cyberteque> pickin up some serious speed!
[05:00] <Gnea> well, if there's any possible good news, is that they're already en-route pretty quickly, and if the prediction holds up, it will land in a flat portion that should be easily attainable by foot from the roat
[05:00] <Gnea> *road
[05:00] <Gnea> unless there's a marsh in the way
[05:01] <cyberteque> can you imagine falling from that height? way too long to think about it!
[05:01] <Gnea> ugh, it's moving west
[05:01] <Gnea> cyberteque: we've already made a movie of it:)
[05:01] <pwoit> if it lands where the prediction is gonna take a while to get to it
[05:01] <Gnea> yeah
[05:01] <Gnea> it did the same thing last time
[05:01] <pwoit> try east
[05:02] <Gnea> are you sure? looks like the target landing zone is moving west
[05:02] <cyberteque> damn near due east
[05:03] <pwoit> the baloon is moving not the target
[05:03] <Gnea> well, yes :)
[05:04] <Gnea> it's just past sandalwood
[05:05] <pwoit> that grean area looks pretty thick bush
[05:05] <Gnea> oh man, knew this was gonna happen - the target landing area is moving east
[05:06] <Gnea> but it seems to be holding fairly steady on the general area
[05:06] <Gnea> impressive :)
[05:07] <pwoit> green car looks to be heading to drop zone
[05:07] <pwoit> blue car cant be stuffed
[05:08] <pwoit> red car is lost
[05:08] <cyberteque> it only looks thick on the map, that scrub is pretty sparce
[05:08] <Gnea> when's the last time it rained?
[05:08] <shenki> looks like we're not getting telemetry from blue car
[05:08] <shenki> rained a fair bit across the state last night
[05:09] <shenki> was quite dry for the week before that
[05:09] <Gnea> how well do you think the ground will have dried since?
[05:10] <cyberteque> we had 15mm last night
[05:10] <shenki> in adelaide it's been sunny and breezy all day, but not all that warm. it shouldn't be very wet there.
[05:10] <cyberteque> that area is all old dunes, it where they "grow rocks"
[05:11] <Gnea> okay, I wasn't sure what the terrain is really like, I can see the shrubs from the satellite, but they're rather fuzzy
[05:11] <cyberteque> its open malley scrub
[05:11] <Gnea> so hope they've got gollashes
[05:11] <cyberteque> sandy soil
[05:12] <Gnea> yeah, and with lower temperatures, it might've retained moisture
[05:12] <Gnea> dude, red just jumped
[05:12] <Gnea> it's almost there
[05:12] <natrium42> haha, green car is doing 124 km/h
[05:12] <cyberteque> heading for our old camp site! right near that dry wash
[05:13] <Gnea> lol
[05:13] <Gnea> horus: Speed: 49 km/h
[05:13] <Gnea> red car: Speed: 89.6 km/h
[05:13] <Gnea> blue car: Speed: 90 km/h
[05:13] <Gnea> cyberteque: oh you know it? excellent!
[05:14] <cyberteque> i've, umm, "poached" there a "few" times
[05:15] <cyberteque> i hope it lands in the lighter area
[05:15] <Gnea> it's close to Vunteholf rd
[05:15] <natrium42> so... green car or the others?
[05:15] <Darkside> whats going on
[05:15] <Gnea> hey DarkCow
[05:15] <Gnea> er
[05:16] <Gnea> Darkside:
[05:16] <Darkside> oh wow, so close to landing
[05:16] <Darkside> hahahah
[05:16] <Gnea> lol
[05:16] <Gnea> yeah
[05:16] <Darkside> im at work on my phone
[05:16] <Darkside> which isnt running the tracker so well
[05:16] <Gnea> it's getting closer to the road
[05:16] <cyberteque> looks like it might land in that cleared area
[05:16] <Gnea> on the NW portion of the conservation
[05:16] <natrium42> cyberteque, are you looking in satellite view?
[05:16] <Gnea> oh oh
[05:17] <Gnea> it just cleared the conservation area, just to the west of it
[05:17] <natrium42> there is no difference in satellite view
[05:17] <cyberteque> yeah, i know that park pretty well
[05:17] <natrium42> trees go beyound area
[05:18] <Gnea> I switch between satellite & terrain
[05:18] <natrium42> hmm, green car missed turn
[05:18] <pwoit> looks like red car winning
[05:18] <cyberteque> the lighter area is "heathland", the darker area is "open woodland"
[05:18] <Gnea> getting closer to jim jolly road
[05:19] <pwoit> past jim jolly
[05:19] <cyberteque> way past
[05:19] <Darkside> oh man this is awesome
[05:19] <Darkside> tracker is working on my phone now
[05:19] <Gnea> well, if the indicators are correct, looks like they can use some dirt roads to get to it
[05:19] <cyberteque> north about 2-5km will be great for recovery
[05:20] <cyberteque> some of those tracks are just horrible
[05:20] <Gnea> pwoit: what was the vimeo url again? lost it :/
[05:20] <cyberteque> how low can it go before you lose the rf link?
[05:21] <Gnea> last time it landed in the drink, it was still transmitting
[05:21] <Gnea> bets on farmland vs. shrubby land? :)
[05:21] <natrium42> looks like it will land in the tomahawk shaped area
[05:22] <cyberteque> looks like the chase car took the wrong track!
[05:22] <natrium42> :S
[05:23] <Darkside> ohh man just got my laptop out at work :D
[05:23] <Darkside> now i can see it properly
[05:23] <natrium42> :)
[05:23] <Gnea> hm
[05:23] <pwoit> sure has
[05:23] <shenki> Darkside: yep
[05:23] <Gnea> looks like the green car lost internet connectivity
[05:23] <pwoit> turned around
[05:23] <cyberteque> hey guys, tell the chase car to go back
[05:23] <Darkside> shenki: :D
[05:23] <cyberteque> that track just loops
[05:23] <Darkside> lol matt is in the wrong place
[05:23] <pwoit> green car going back to other road
[05:24] <Darkside> shenki: matt is waaaaaay off
[05:24] <natrium42> maybe road was blocked
[05:24] <natrium42> ?
[05:24] <Darkside> wait
[05:24] <Darkside> i mean adrian
[05:24] <Darkside> shenki: adrian is waaaaaay off
[05:24] <Gnea> 934m!
[05:24] <Darkside> matt is right behind terry
[05:24] <mazzanet> Darkside: !
[05:24] <Darkside> whit
[05:24] <Darkside> shit
[05:24] <Darkside> mazzanet: !!!!
[05:24] <Darkside> mazzanet: did you make any contacts on the repeater?
[05:24] <shenki> keep in mind the satelite images might be 3-4, perhaps more, years old
[05:24] <cyberteque> they should have gone right then left
[05:24] <Gnea> it's coming in hot
[05:24] <mazzanet> i did!
[05:24] <Gnea> 732m
[05:24] <pwoit> can we run a book on who gets there first
[05:24] <Darkside> mazzanet: vk5nex?
[05:24] <Gnea> 677m
[05:25] <cyberteque> that area is a pig, its so easy to get lost
[05:25] <Gnea> 618m
[05:25] <mazzanet> Darkside: what's your involvemenr?
[05:25] <Darkside> cyberteque: they have maps with gps
[05:25] <Darkside> they'll be fine
[05:25] <Gnea> 577m
[05:25] <natrium42> predictor doesn't account for ground elevation
[05:25] <cyberteque> no points of reference away from tracks and fences
[05:25] <Darkside> mazzanet: the HF payload on the last launch was made by me
[05:25] <Gnea> looks like it'll be shrubs
[05:25] <Gnea> 446m
[05:25] <Darkside> 383
[05:26] <Gnea> 383m
[05:26] <Gnea> :)
[05:26] <Darkside> oh man this is awesome
[05:26] <Darkside> like, im sitting at work watching this :D
[05:26] <cyberteque> tell them to follow the track on the edge of the scrub
[05:26] <mazzanet> Darkside: ah sweet
[05:26] <mazzanet> Darkside: umm no i had contact with zdr
[05:26] <Darkside> cyberteque: we cant communicate wit hthem
[05:26] <Darkside> and they have internet anyway
[05:26] <cyberteque> ok
[05:26] <Darkside> cyberteque: if anyone is watching this channel anyway
[05:26] <shenki> telemetry has stopped?
[05:26] <cyberteque> next left guys!
[05:26] <Darkside> juxta: !!!
[05:26] <Darkside> shenki: ZSN should still be able to get it
[05:27] <Gnea> i'm showing lack of telemetry as well
[05:27] <Darkside> and terry will get it closer
[05:27] <Gnea> or maybe the hill is blocking signal
[05:27] <Darkside> crap, no updates
[05:27] <mazzanet> Darkside: zbr even
[05:27] <natrium42> does anybody know ground elevation?
[05:27] <Gnea> it's basically between 2 hills
[05:28] <Darkside> the cars havent updated for me
[05:28] <cyberteque> it looks like its down, i'll dig out my 1/50,000, but that looks like the right altitude for the area
[05:28] <Gnea> my bet is that it's on the ground between 2 hills, and the hills are blocking RF
[05:28] <Darkside> mm
[05:28] Action: Gnea sticks to that
[05:28] <Darkside> i guess they havent cot telemetry since its landed
[05:29] <Darkside> i wonder why the cars havent updated
[05:29] <pwoit> have now
[05:29] <pwoit> zm close
[05:29] <Darkside> aha yes
[05:29] <Gnea> blue's almost there
[05:29] <Darkside> matt is close in
[05:29] <Darkside> they must be on teh edges of nextG coverage
[05:30] <Gnea> sounds choppy
[05:30] <cyberteque> what nextg coverage? where?
[05:30] <Darkside> cyberteque: well they've been updating occasionally
[05:30] <Darkside> so there must be 3g coverage
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[05:30] <shenki> yeah, keep an eye on the positions recieved at the bottom left of the map
[05:30] <Gnea> cyberteque: telstra
[05:31] <cyberteque> sorry, i got conned by a telemarketer, telling me how wonderful next g is!
[05:31] <Darkside> nextg has excellent coverage
[05:31] <Gnea> ah yeah, 1 new position
[05:31] <shenki> and good propogation :P
[05:31] <Darkside> yep
[05:31] <cyberteque> i get better coverage with my optus gprs/gsm/wcdma
[05:31] <shenki> and good backhaul
[05:31] <Darkside> where they are, its going to be crp coverage on any network
[05:31] <Darkside> VZI has dropped out completely it seems
[05:31] <Gnea> blue car has the latest timestamp
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[05:32] <Darkside> adrian has coverage
[05:32] <Darkside> or so it seems
[05:32] <Darkside> new balloon update
[05:32] <Gnea> bam
[05:32] <Darkside> 83m altitude
[05:32] <Gnea> 3 new position
[05:32] <cyberteque> i hope they have a compass as well as a gps before going in the scrub
[05:32] <Darkside> ZM is back in coverage range
[05:33] <Darkside> i bet its in a tree
[05:33] <Gnea> that's what i thought
[05:33] <Gnea> but... shrubs?
[05:33] <Gnea> side of a hill?
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[05:34] <Gnea> something is going horribly wrong with the prediction software
[05:34] <Darkside> nah, it thinks its ascending
[05:34] <Darkside> just bodgy gps data
[05:34] <natrium42> it calculated descent rate to be very low
[05:34] <Gnea> I'm guessing he's got a visual
[05:34] <natrium42> as it's resting
[05:35] <Darkside> hmm no updates on ZMs location
[05:35] Action: natrium42 should add landing detection
[05:35] <Darkside> what the hell is ZSN doing
[05:36] <cyberteque> why are they going north? is the chase car a 2wd?
[05:36] <Darkside> blue and green are 4wds
[05:36] <Darkside> red isnt
[05:36] <Gnea> looks like he's trying to get on top of it
[05:36] <cyberteque> so why didnt they take the track? unless the gate is locked
[05:37] <Darkside> they might be walking in
[05:37] <Gnea> do they have rangers?
[05:37] <cyberteque> the track would get them to within a km,
[05:37] <Darkside> ima give terry a call
[05:37] <VK3FGOV> little bit of ground to cover if the are walking
[05:38] <cyberteque> not full time, its why i used to poach goats there
[05:38] <natrium42> they are close
[05:38] <Gnea> heh
[05:38] <Darkside> terry is out of range
[05:38] <natrium42> australia only has lame animals right?
[05:38] <Darkside> yup
[05:38] <cyberteque> the 1/50,000 says its about 400M there
[05:38] <natrium42> :)
[05:38] <Darkside> nothing that would carry a balloon away :P
[05:39] <mazzanet> heh
[05:39] <Darkside> cyberteque: GPS says 80m
[05:39] <Gnea> well, it looks like blue's on it
[05:39] <cyberteque> am i looking at the wron page?
[05:39] <mazzanet> 1/50,000?
[05:39] <cyberteque> and 80m is awefully low for there
[05:40] <vk3uh> 1:50,000 height is probably in feet
[05:40] <cyberteque> 1/50,000 topographic map
[05:40] <Gnea> 6 new positions?!
[05:40] <cyberteque> nope metres
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[05:41] <cyberteque> you guys need my camera plane!
[05:41] <Gnea> man, now I'm really looking forward to seeing the video of this!
[05:41] <cyberteque> me too! best afternoons entertainment i've had in ages
[05:43] <shenki> woot!
[05:43] <Darkside> they muyst be walking in
[05:44] <Gnea> wonder if vzi got out and carpooled up with zm
[05:44] <Darkside> look where ZM has parked, its on the side ofthe rode
[05:44] <Darkside> Gnea: nah, his reception dropped out
[05:44] <Gnea> yeah, it hasn't changed
[05:44] <Darkside> so he hasnt been able to update
[05:44] <cyberteque> where are you guys looking?
[05:44] <Darkside> tery is using optus, ZM is using nextG
[05:44] <Gnea> ah ok
[05:44] <Darkside> whic has better coverage
[05:44] <Darkside> watch for the balloon starting to move again
[05:44] <cyberteque> i'm watching http://aprs.fi/
[05:45] <Darkside> im using spaenear.us
[05:45] <Darkside> spacenear.us/tracker/
[05:46] <Gnea> I'm on spacenear.us too
[05:46] <Darkside> terry still out of phone range
[05:46] <Darkside> dammit
[05:46] <Darkside> and i dont have matts number
[05:46] <Gnea> can you text him and hope it gets through?
[05:47] <Darkside> it wont
[05:47] <Darkside> he's waaaay out of range
[05:47] <cyberteque> i'm not getting anything on spacenear.us/tracker/
[05:47] <Gnea> ah, ok, just a thought
[05:47] <Darkside> he wont get it until he gets back
[05:47] <shenki> cyberteque: try reloading the page; im getting 3 new positions every few seconds
[05:48] <Darkside> just wait for ZM to get to the balloon
[05:48] <Darkside> i'm betting terry is with them too
[05:49] <pwoit> thats been fun catch you all later
[05:49] <pwoit> vk3thx clear :)
[05:49] <Darkside> cya
[05:49] <Gnea> later :)
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[05:50] <Jacko> woot
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[12:13] <griffonbot> @jamescoxon: RT @flyspacebits: We've just launched 3 balloons at the same time :) #arhab [http://twitter.com/jamescoxon/status/28494595947]
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[12:16] <jonsowman> nessie is back online then
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[12:20] <fsphil> nice
[12:21] <fsphil> the horus-9 track is really killing firefox
[12:21] <Darkside> hahaha
[12:21] <fsphil> 300 baud again? :)
[12:22] <shenki> yeah, i noticed juxta and natrium42 discussing ways to alleviate that issue
[12:22] <jonsowman> i mentioned to natrium that that needs to be sorted
[12:22] <jonsowman> be really careful if you're on a bandwidth-critical connection
[12:22] <jonsowman> the code is already in place to fix it
[12:23] <shenki> it's not just bandwidth tho, the amount of processing it does when it draws the line for several thousand data points at once stalls even on real machines
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[12:24] <shenki> you could fix the bandwidth issue by storing the data locally using a HTML5 webdatabase api
[12:24] <shenki> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/
[12:25] <shenki> but then you want to do some sort of filterting so you don't try to render too many points
[12:25] <Upu> ping DanielRichman
[12:25] <DanielRichman> hi I notice it's back up; I've got to go though, guests are here
[12:25] <DanielRichman> bbl
[12:25] <Upu> nps
[12:25] <jonsowman> shenki: there are many ways to solve it
[12:26] <DanielRichman> edmoore: nessie is back up
[12:26] <shenki> jonsowman: just need to pick one an implement it :)
[12:26] <Upu> just need DNS fixing
[12:26] <edmoore> DanielRichman: ta
[12:27] <Upu> which is already fixed
[12:27] <Upu> super
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[14:29] <jonsowman> hi eroomde
[14:30] <eroomde> hi jonsowman
[14:30] <jonsowman> hows things?
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[14:32] <eroomde> good thanks. you? how's term?
[14:32] <jonsowman> yep going well so far :)
[14:32] <jonsowman> had a crazy week this week. but an easier one next week
[14:33] <eroomde> i remember the number of supervisions takes a bit of a jump up
[14:33] <eroomde> is that the case for you too?
[14:33] <jonsowman> it's not that so much as we have 5 supervisions one week, and none the week after
[14:33] <eroomde> ah right
[14:33] <eroomde> out yes
[14:33] <eroomde> oh*
[14:33] <eroomde> that was it
[14:34] <eroomde> week of hell followed by week of not working as you had no supervisions that week causing a week of hell the next week
[14:34] <jonsowman> yep that is going to happen
[14:34] <jonsowman> trying to do as much as I can in the off-week
[14:34] <jonsowman> you been up to much?
[14:34] <eroomde> had food poisoning the last few days
[14:35] <eroomde> but better today though
[14:35] <jonsowman> D:
[14:35] <jonsowman> that's not good
[14:35] <eroomde> also anterior cruciate ligament busted while making a dodgy step hiking, which really sucks
[14:35] <eroomde> so rather bed bound the last few days
[14:35] <jonsowman> :(
[14:35] <eroomde> but i guess the rest that they mutually enforced in mutually good for the other
[14:36] <jonsowman> that's true
[14:37] <SpeedEvil> Ow.
[14:37] <eroomde> more time on a pc as a result, maybe I should use it to try and be a little more productive
[14:37] <SpeedEvil> Surgery to repair?
[14:37] <eroomde> i'm doing some hiking in sweden so i really want the knee to be good for it, so really am keeping it rested
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> Busted as in snapped? Or strained.
[14:38] <eroomde> SpeedEvil: I really hope not! just compression, elevation, anti-inflams, ice, repeat
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> Have you had an actual doc look at it?
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> One skilled in the art.
[14:39] <eroomde> a physio friend
[14:39] <eroomde> it's not proper bad, just painful to walk on for extended periods
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> Fair enough.
[14:39] <eroomde> and getting up and down the stairs
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> Mum broke a ligament in foot, and it ended up quite disabling over time.
[14:40] <SpeedEvil> It's especailly hard to repair if it's left, as it contracts, and needs re-stretched ove rhte course of months
[14:40] <SpeedEvil> Sorry to be depressing, and I hope yours isn't serious.
[14:40] <eroomde> i have heard that they can be a real pain, yep
[14:44] <eroomde> so what's happening in hab?
[14:44] <eroomde> any fu tech or launches?
[14:44] <eroomde> fun*
[14:45] <Randomskk> lot of new cusf people. planning on splitting into groups and building some basic trackers or something
[14:45] <Randomskk> thanks to DanielRichman habitat now has an http interface
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> laurenceb is screwing with the cc10* chips.
[14:47] <Randomskk> he has them working into fldigi which is quite cool
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> And getting towards having a moderately flexible ISM band SDR
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[14:47] <SpeedEvil> 30khz bandwidth up to
[14:47] <Randomskk> usb interface to python script that writes to a wav fifo which fldigi reads as a sound file input
[14:47] <SpeedEvil> planning on making a little USB stick with a couple of antenna sockets on.
[14:47] <Randomskk> so, no audio cables or conversion to AF at any point. digital data right to the wav file
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> This connects to his autopilot thingy
[14:49] <eroomde> re you both describing the same thing here?
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> yes
[14:50] <SpeedEvil> he's at the moment got a dev board, which he is talking to over serial. He plans to make it a nice compact USB key thingy.
[14:50] <eroomde> i seee
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[14:50] <SpeedEvil> It's at the moment hooked into fldigi with hackery - which incidentally revealed that fldigi only does 8khz sampling, which is a bit annoying
[14:50] <eroomde> will want quite a decent pre-amp and filtering stage on the cc10*
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> It's apparantly moderartely quiet apparrantly
[14:51] <eroomde> they're fairly deaf and very de-tunable
[14:51] <eroomde> on ISM?
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> I don't recall the numbers.
[14:53] <eroomde> oh well, sounds like fun if it works
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[16:47] <fsphil> yay, distributed image reception works
[16:49] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[17:02] <Laurenceb> hi all
[17:02] <SpeedEvil> hi
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> eroomde was wondering about your cc* thingy earlier.
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> Dunno if he's still around.
[17:03] <Laurenceb> what about it?
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> http://web.utk.edu/~mtaylo29/pages/Wood%20welding.htm
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> funky
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> (not related to anything)
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> I forgot.
[17:04] <Laurenceb> oh ive got it working with proper code, seems to be reliable but the register settings from CAPE broke the AGC
[17:04] <SpeedEvil> I was wondering if he'd pop up when highlighted.
[17:04] <Laurenceb> so annoying - theres just so many registers to set correctly
[17:05] <SpeedEvil> :)
[17:05] <Laurenceb> theres a header with all the default registers, but some of it is hardcoded into the functions
[17:05] <Laurenceb> including the AGC
[17:06] <SpeedEvil> So need to break it back out into tweakables.
[17:07] <m1x10> Hi
[17:07] <Laurenceb> http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/too-cool-rainbow-headband-jpg.gif?w=275&h=200 <-loooool
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[18:48] <Laurenceb> this is really annoying - i cant get the cc to retune without power cycling it
[18:48] <Laurenceb> also theres a weird problem where sometimes the register sampling seems to sync wrongly with the register loading and the frequencies get inverted
[18:49] <Laurenceb> second problem might be solvable with a shared clock
[18:49] <Laurenceb> first one is weird, the actual modem seems to be retuning, and the agc responds correctly to an in band tx, but the data is just noise
[18:50] <Laurenceb> i really havent got a clue what the internal hardware looks like, so i cant work out whats going on at all really :-/
[18:52] Action: Laurenceb wonders if Ti could help...
[18:55] <griffonbot> @nearsys: My near space stuff was mentioned in the latest (vol. 24) of Make magazine. #ARHAB [http://twitter.com/nearsys/status/28525804635]
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[18:56] <Laurenceb> itd be so annyoing if i can get it to thins point where it works, but cant figure everything out well enough for it to be very usable
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