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[01:31] <iannick> hello natrium43
[01:32] <iannick> thanks for your fast reply to my email today
[01:34] <iannick> some1 here ?
[01:35] <kd0fxp> been quiet for a while
[01:35] <iannick> ok :)
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[01:35] <kd0fxp> np ;)
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[07:37] <m1x10> Hi all\
[07:45] <DagoRed> howdy
[07:47] <m1x10> I just got the radioshield from argentdata
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[07:48] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/vcDxu.png
[07:48] <Laurenceb> ^we have a carrier XD
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[08:48] <fsphil> you get signal? nice
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[09:02] <nathan7> Laurenceb: incoming transmission?
[09:02] <nathan7> Laurenceb: main screen turn on :D
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[09:10] <fsphil> uh-oh, someone set up us the meme
[09:18] Action: nathan7 huggles fp
[09:18] Action: nathan7 huggles fsphil*
[09:21] <nathan7> now, transmit this IRC conversation over RF
[09:21] <nathan7> and repeat
[09:22] <nathan7> Yo dawg, I heard you like memes
[09:22] <nathan7> =p
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[10:28] <fsphil> typical... the crash doesn't happen when running with valgrind
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[10:34] <Laurenceb_> yo
[10:35] <fsphil> yo yo
[10:37] <jonsowman> fsphil: still on for sunday launch?
[10:39] <fsphil> that's still the plan, though the predicted landing spot is hovering about a lake
[10:41] <jonsowman> hmm
[10:41] <jonsowman> predictions should be about right by now
[10:41] <m1x10> http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/exclusive-moonwalk-video-revealed.htm
[10:41] <fsphil> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=315641a9c70c851c08fa331a3469a60fa1020385
[10:41] <fsphil> I think it should be safe enough
[10:42] <m1x10> sorry to interrupt fsphil
[10:42] <fsphil> not at all m1x10 :)
[10:42] <fsphil> with it being a sunday I doubt I'd be able to get a boat at short notice :)
[10:44] <jonsowman> hehe
[10:44] <m1x10> :p
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[10:48] <jonsowman> well hopefully it'll be okay. don't think I'll be able to hear it from cam as we don't have a Yagi at the moment
[10:48] <jonsowman> unless we borrow the CUSF one. we'll see.
[10:49] <fsphil> you'll definitely hear it, but decoding might be another batter
[10:49] <fsphil> matter even
[10:49] <fsphil> mmm.. battered packets
[10:49] <jonsowman> yeah
[10:49] <jonsowman> this is another jpeg-rtty launch right?
[10:49] <fsphil> yep yep
[10:49] <fsphil> new and improved
[10:49] <jonsowman> excellent
[10:49] <jonsowman> :)
[10:50] <jonsowman> bbl
[10:51] <m1x10> awesome
[10:53] <m1x10> fsphil, btw I was thinkinh that I will put only the jpeg camera instead of the canon, I might need more power. The canon takes 2 extra but the jpeg will draw from mainboard's batteries..
[10:54] <m1x10> *if I will put*
[10:54] <m1x10> *2 extra batteries*
[10:55] <m1x10> brb
[10:56] <fsphil> the little uart camera shouldn't use all that much power -- but the canon will take *much* better pictures
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[11:13] <m1x10> sure
[11:13] <m1x10> Current consumption: 80-100mA
[11:14] <m1x10> http://www.cutedigi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4444&osCsid=cd7f62b0e75d41224389f594d8140a03
[11:14] <m1x10> see that image
[11:14] <Darkside> hey all
[11:15] <Darkside> there will be 2 project horus launches on the weekend
[11:15] <Darkside> one on saturday, and most probably one on sunday too
[11:15] <fsphil> m1x10, looks like a better image than mine
[11:15] <m1x10> fsphil its also in fullscreen
[11:15] <m1x10> small will look far btter
[11:15] <m1x10> wow, they uploaded arduino code!
[11:16] <fsphil> Darkside, Isn't 1 not stressful enough? :)
[11:16] <m1x10> I stormed them with mails last week and they got freaked out.
[11:16] <m1x10> Now they have put code. haha
[11:17] <Darkside> fsphil: well i'm getting prepared to get stressed out
[11:17] <Darkside> i'm apparently RDFing for one ofthe other ugys
[11:19] <fsphil> I'm hoping to avoid any kind of RDFing
[11:19] <fsphil> it doesn't look much fun :)
[11:21] <Darkside> haha
[11:21] <Darkside> well it doesnt seem too hard
[11:22] <Darkside> whats going to be hard is directing the driver
[11:22] <Darkside> who is a very experiences RDFer :P
[11:22] <Darkside> experienced*
[11:22] <fsphil> *point* that way
[11:23] <Darkside> haha
[11:23] <Darkside> well yes
[11:23] <Darkside> it will be interesting
[11:23] <Darkside> but by the looks of the predictions, it should be pretty good tomorrow
[11:25] <fsphil> what time is the second flight? if I'm up early enough I might catch the end of it
[11:26] <Darkside> not sure
[11:26] <Darkside> but its gonna be early i think
[11:26] <Darkside> it will be decided tomorrow
[11:31] <Darkside> hoooooooly shit im glad i checked out these batteries..
[11:31] <Darkside> these lithium cells sit at 1.8v unloaded
[11:36] <fsphil> yea they are feisty little batteries
[11:36] <russss> heh
[11:36] <Darkside> heres the thing
[11:37] <Darkside> theres no regulator in front of my amp
[11:37] <Darkside> and the amp chip cant take more than 12.6v
[11:37] <Darkside> well, not ideally
[11:37] <Darkside> it probably can
[11:37] <Darkside> ...
[11:37] <Darkside> so, pushing 14v into it is probably a BAD idea
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[11:50] <juxta> Darkside, 1.8 is open circuit
[11:50] <juxta> once you load them a bit they'll come down
[11:50] <Darkside> yeah
[11:51] <Darkside> i ran it with only 7 cells for a bit
[11:51] <Darkside> then put in the 8th cell
[11:51] <Darkside> it looks ok - the voltage ended p staying around 11.8v
[11:51] <Darkside> which, from today, should be ok
[11:53] <shenki> juxta, Darkside: ping
[11:53] <shenki> sorry for not answering my phone
[11:53] <juxta> heya shenki
[11:53] <juxta> no worries
[11:53] <shenki> we all good for tomorrow?
[11:53] <juxta> Darkside and I just wanted to check the arrangements for tomorrow
[11:53] <juxta> yup launching tomorrow
[11:54] <Darkside> :D
[11:54] <shenki> cool
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[11:54] <juxta> Darkside says you guys will carpool up?
[11:55] <juxta> oh heya amboar :)
[11:55] <amboar> juxta: sup? :)
[11:55] <shenki> yeah, that's the plan
[11:55] <Darkside> shenki: did youh et my sms?
[11:55] Action: amboar is on the couch next to shenki atm :P
[11:55] Action: shenki is sitting on amboar's couch
[11:55] <juxta> haha
[11:55] <amboar> lol
[11:55] <amboar> figured i should /j and catch up
[11:55] <shenki> Darkside: yeah
[11:55] <amboar> juxta: all set to launch tomorrow/
[11:55] <juxta> predictions for tomorrow look awesome
[11:55] <juxta> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=8e4c4cc62a3c1f597cf0cf4322da2de05e713ac7
[11:56] <shenki> Darkside: so what time do i need to pick you up, for us to get there by 10?
[11:56] <Darkside> we need to get there at 10
[11:56] <juxta> it's about half an hour drive from Darkside's place
[11:56] <Darkside> i have the address we need
[11:56] <shenki> okay. can you send that to me?
[11:56] <juxta> yeah hopefully tomorrow goes smoothly amboar, then we can do it all again sunday :)
[11:56] <amboar> oh
[11:56] <amboar> two launches
[11:57] <amboar> cool
[11:57] Action: amboar checks the link
[11:57] <Darkside> juxta: oh man thats awesome
[11:57] <Darkside> juxta: that launch site doesnt look right
[11:57] <juxta> it's not
[11:57] <juxta> it's the old one
[11:58] <juxta> only a couple of km difference
[11:58] <Darkside> ahh
[11:58] <amboar> juxta: that's a crazy route
[11:58] <amboar> what's up with that
[11:58] <juxta> wind inversions
[11:58] <amboar> at different altitudes?
[11:58] <juxta> if you open it in google earth it'll make more sense, hit the KML link
[11:58] <juxta> yup
[11:59] <juxta> we might go for a bit slower asc rate Darkside to save some gas for sunday
[11:59] Action: amboar stabs firefox for trying to save the kml link
[11:59] <Darkside> juxta: well, with the prediction as it is, that shouldn't be a problem should it
[12:00] <juxta> nope we have lots of headroom :)
[12:00] <Darkside> so what ascent rate are you looking at?
[12:00] <juxta> just running them now
[12:00] <juxta> might go for 3
[12:00] <juxta> more alt then too
[12:00] <Darkside> -35.1020, 138.8253 btw
[12:02] <shenki> Darkside: do you have a pic of your payload?
[12:02] <Darkside> yep
[12:02] <Darkside> im about to facebook :P
[12:02] <juxta> score: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=f869f9a70642ca254b4332adc1c752ea81ec47d3
[12:02] <amboar> haha
[12:03] <amboar> that's awesome
[12:03] <amboar> what sucks is the roads are orthogonal to the path :P
[12:04] <juxta> luckily there won't be too much driving :)
[12:04] <Darkside> juxta: good for me :P
[12:04] <Darkside> means adrian won't kill me :P
[12:05] <shenki> Darkside: im having trouble getting a hold of my sister
[12:05] <shenki> Darkside: i didn't get confirmation about the car for saturday yet
[12:05] <shenki> Darkside: we should be okay, just keeping you informed
[12:06] <Darkside> ok
[12:06] <juxta> i hear a 300ZX makes a good chase car ;)
[12:07] <Darkside> ?
[12:07] <Darkside> oh :P
[12:07] <Darkside> had to google that - not a car person
[12:07] <amboar> hah
[12:07] <amboar> i need to clean it first
[12:07] <amboar> had brake fluid all down one side at one point
[12:08] <amboar> wiped it off but still haven't washed it :P
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> Win a chase car!
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.renault-ze.com/news/twizy-competition-1982.html&gallery=#gallery-twizy
[12:09] <SpeedEvil> I guess they are not going for the male heterosexual market.
[12:10] <amboar> SpeedEvil: lol ... wtf
[12:10] <amboar> clearly :P
[12:10] <juxta> oh hot
[12:10] <shenki> juxta: what time of the day do you think we'll be done, ballpark?
[12:11] <amboar> juxta: time to trade in the 323?
[12:11] <amboar> do you still havfe that?
[12:11] <juxta> 626 yo
[12:11] <amboar> ahh
[12:11] <amboar> my bad ;)
[12:11] <juxta> brb
[12:12] <Darkside> shenki: flight time is predicted at 3.5 hours ish
[12:12] <Darkside> so maybe 4-5pmish
[12:12] <juxta> yeah say 5pm
[12:12] <juxta> 626 is an ATV amboar
[12:12] <juxta> checkout the pics from horus 6
[12:13] <m1x10> fsphil: I just figure out that this camera accepts a saving mode command. Perfect during the idle periods.
[12:14] <juxta> and when I say that what I really mean is 'no, it's not'
[12:15] <amboar> :P
[12:16] <Darkside> bah got campfire smoke in my jumper
[12:17] Action: amboar lols at the bogged ATV
[12:19] <shenki> Darkside: okay
[12:20] <shenki> F1 quali is 3:30, don't think i'll be near enough bandwidth in time
[12:21] <shenki> is there '3' UMTS coverage up there?
[12:21] <juxta> in mt barket, yes
[12:21] <juxta> mt barkjer
[12:21] <shenki> heh, moar beers?
[12:21] <juxta> but you could wait till you get home ;p
[12:21] <Darkside> oh juxta i had an awesom eidea
[12:21] <Darkside> as kind of a 'teaser' for simon hackett
[12:22] <shenki> Darkside is going to do a nude photoshoot with the nodepony?
[12:22] <Darkside> HAHAHA
[12:22] <Darkside> shenki: you asshoe
[12:22] <Darkside> just spat out my drink
[12:22] <Darkside> ffsa
[12:22] <Darkside> no
[12:22] <shenki> Darkside: have you seen the it crowd ep where they do the calendar?
[12:22] <Darkside> yes
[12:22] <shenki> that's what i had in mind
[12:22] <Darkside> juxta: just before launch, get a pic of the nodepony sitting on one of the payloads, with the balloon in the background
[12:23] <Darkside> and caption it 'NodePony really wants to fly! Can you help?'
[12:23] <juxta> heh
[12:23] <juxta> bring it along then, we'll grab a snap :)
[12:23] <Darkside> yeah
[12:23] <Darkside> i have an awesome idea for a picture
[12:23] <Darkside> and i reckon i can do it just before launch
[12:24] <Darkside> also a pic of the balloon launching, with the nodepony in teh foreground looking at it
[12:24] <juxta> alrighty
[12:24] <Darkside> or something like that anyway
[12:24] <Darkside> just to send simon :D
[12:25] <Darkside> shenki: so what time will you get here?
[12:25] <Darkside> a bit before 9:30?
[12:25] <shenki> yeah
[12:26] <shenki> amboar had better stop pouring the drinks soon
[12:26] <amboar> pah
[12:26] <amboar> there's still half a bottle left
[12:26] <amboar> what are you talking about
[12:27] <Darkside> loll
[12:28] <Darkside> ok well my alarm is set for 8am
[12:28] <shenki> Darkside: woah, have you ever gotten up that early before?!
[12:29] <Darkside> yes
[12:29] <Darkside> lol
[12:30] <Darkside> it doesn't happen often
[12:39] <fsphil> m1x10, just make sure it can wake up again
[12:44] <amboar> afk
[12:44] <juxta> sleepy time
[12:44] <juxta> night all
[12:44] <amboar> night
[12:44] <Darkside> nn
[12:44] <shenki> night
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[13:21] <m1x10> fsphil: yes it does. instatly.
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[15:46] <m1x10> anyone used mixW ?
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[16:17] <m1x10> Finally, I started building my custom aprs receiver ! http://imagebin.org/117588
[16:20] <Laurenceb_> http://www.fat-pie.com/bfm9.htm
[16:20] <Laurenceb_> lmao
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[16:26] <m1x10> http://imagebin.org/117594 --> http://imagebin.org/117576
[16:26] <m1x10> :):)
[16:30] <Laurenceb_> its slightyl messy
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[16:40] <m1x10> :p
[16:41] <fsphil> good / bad
[16:41] <fsphil> good: opal / talktalk finally sent me my mac code -- three weeks late
[16:41] <fsphil> bad: I'm having trouble getting Helium :/
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[16:54] <natrium42> fsphil, what about hydrogen?
[16:55] <fsphil> I doubt I could get any locally, or make enough myself
[16:56] <fsphil> but yea, hydrogen is very tempting now
[17:03] <SpeedEvil> Zinc+H@SO4 isquite easy
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[17:04] <fsphil> how do you get it into the balloon?
[17:05] <MrCraig> what time is the launch tomorrow?
[17:09] <fsphil> hmm,, good question
[17:09] <fsphil> it's normally midday, or just before
[17:17] <MrCraig> ok - I'm driving to coventry in about 5 mins - tomorrow morning I'll get on here and see if I can tune in :)
[17:17] <MrCraig> later all :-)
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[18:13] <jcoxon> evening all
[18:18] <m1x10> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/isslivestream.asx
[18:18] <m1x10> hi jcoxon
[18:18] <m1x10> see the space uniforms !
[18:24] <fsphil> evening
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[19:27] <Upu> what unit does the tracker want speed in ?
[19:29] <natrium42> km/h
[19:31] <earthshine> Hi guys
[19:32] <earthshine> Do we have any launches this weekend ?
[19:32] <Upu> thanks
[19:32] <jonsowman> two I think
[19:32] <Upu> 2
[19:32] <earthshine> In the UK ?
[19:32] <Upu> Rob on Saturday from Cambridge
[19:32] <jonsowman> fsphil on Sunday
[19:32] <Upu> and fsphil (if he's ready!) on Sunday from Ireland
[19:33] <earthshine> Nice
[19:33] <Upu> thx natrium42
[19:33] <earthshine> i'll dust off my receiver
[19:34] <Upu> yep I'm ready as well, Rob is early doors tommorrow
[19:34] <fsphil> any idea what time tomorrow?
[19:34] <Upu> he said 9 or 10
[19:34] <fsphil> ah, better setup the radio tonight then (in the attic)
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[19:48] <fsphil> his quit should be: "Discharging"
[19:50] <jonsowman> heh
[19:50] <jonsowman> my quit is rubbish. but then, I don't quit
[19:50] <jonsowman> unless Something Bad happens
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[19:51] <fsphil> oooh nice shot on the iss cam
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[20:09] <m1x10> I just recovered a comment in my aprs code when I first started the hab project.
[20:09] <m1x10> it says:
[20:09] <m1x10> Fast low power non repeatead transmissions of aprs status messages
[20:09] <m1x10> for a couple of hours won't kill the aprs network.
[20:09] <m1x10> */
[20:10] <m1x10> lol
[20:12] <m1x10> and that setting is 32seconds
[20:12] <m1x10> I think I will piss off everybody that day !
[20:16] <DagoRed> Yeah...
[20:16] <DagoRed> You don't really need transmissions more than every minute and a half anyway.
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[20:17] <m1x10> yeah
[20:18] <m1x10> but I believe the HAMS will support me rather than grumble
[20:18] <m1x10> 2hrs->120min->240 aprs status messages
[20:19] <m1x10> for such a rare event
[20:19] <DanielRichman> you'd be suprised. The guys in the US have had a bad time with the aprs network
[20:19] <DanielRichman> since the balloon is airborne it can hit a very large amount of digipeaters
[20:20] <m1x10> DanielRichman the status messages dont include wides
[20:20] <jonsowman> they dont need to
[20:20] <jonsowman> they will still hit a huge number of digis
[20:21] <m1x10> but they wont be repeated, right?
[20:21] <DagoRed> they will
[20:21] <DagoRed> That's why we use a different frequency.
[20:22] <m1x10> DagoRed I used 144.8 so that I get iGated easily
[20:22] <m1x10> I started with that thought
[20:25] <DagoRed> We are going to start igating by ourselves.
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[20:49] <Laurenceb> hi
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[21:06] <m1x10> gnite children !
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[21:15] <juxta> morning all
[21:16] <jonsowman> morning juxta
[21:16] <jonsowman> hows things?
[21:16] <juxta> good good
[21:16] <juxta> launch in a few hours :)
[21:16] <jonsowman> excellent
[21:16] <jonsowman> whats on this one?
[21:16] <juxta> http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=edf1e40af1d0fca7d6ed92a708146bd578c0594d
[21:16] <jonsowman> haha nice
[21:16] <jonsowman> 2k2 range
[21:17] <juxta> HD video, HF telemetry & our repeater again :)
[21:17] <jonsowman> fantastic
[21:17] <jonsowman> good stuff
[21:17] <jonsowman> be nice if it went out to sea and then came back
[21:17] <juxta> heh
[21:17] <jonsowman> that'd make for some awesome imagery
[21:17] <juxta> we're launching tomorrow too
[21:17] <jonsowman> oh nice - same payload?
[21:17] <juxta> but that one is a bit sketchy, very close to the big lake down south
[21:17] <juxta> similar - no HF telemetry though
[21:18] <jonsowman> right
[21:18] <juxta> all this getting up early, ught
[21:19] <jonsowman> hehe
[21:34] <Darkside> lol
[21:34] <Darkside> juxta: http://habhub.org/predict/#!/uuid=92149fe96822234204f1e3815480f02899769abf uhmmmm
[21:35] <Darkside> wind ddata must be corrupte
[21:38] <juxta> use half degree
[21:38] <juxta> works fine
[21:38] <juxta> :)
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[21:40] <juxta> mm just wondering if i put that fin on now or at the launch site
[21:40] <juxta> it's pretty long, maybe 60-70cm
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[21:43] <juxta> what time is shenki coming to get you Darkside?
[21:43] <Darkside> a bit before 9:30
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[22:59] <jerry507_mac> People get really pissy about aprs
[22:59] <jerry507_mac> Wow, talk about scrollback
[22:59] <jerry507_mac> Lol
[23:00] <jerry507_mac> 2+ hours difference in commenting on that conversation
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[23:40] <natrium42> lol, jerry507_mac, get a PC dude :D
[23:40] <natrium42> they are seriously faster
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[23:47] <plantain> so I hear the adelaide crowd is getting high today
[23:48] <fsphil> or low, depending on your point of view
[23:50] <plantain> indeed
[23:50] <jerry507_mac> Speed isn't everything
[23:50] <fsphil> shouldn't be much longer actually
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[23:57] <natrium42> jerry507_mac, i run ubuntu on my mbp :P
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