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[00:05] <griffonbot> @nearsys: Still waiting the transmitter for the NearSpace UltraLight. As soon as I get a test, the kit will become available. #ARHAB [http://twitter.com/nearsys/status/24236775703]
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[03:27] <W0OTM> iHAB-2 launch date has been announced. http://www.w0otm.com/iHAB/iHAB-2/
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[06:38] <jcoxon> morning all
[06:38] <jcoxon> made quite a bit of progress with the remote dl-fldigi interface
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[06:56] <jcoxon> morning Upu, hows the project coming along?
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[07:39] <jcoxon> morning again
[07:41] <m1x10> hi jcoxon, nice link yesterday
[07:42] <jcoxon> m1x10, can you try this for me
[07:42] <jcoxon> http://m6jcx.no-ip.org/dl-fldigi-XMLRPC/dl-fldigi.php
[07:42] <m1x10> ok
[07:42] <m1x10> what?
[07:42] <m1x10> it refreshes
[07:42] <jcoxon> its a web interface into dl-fldigi
[07:42] <jcoxon> you can click on the waterfall
[07:43] <jcoxon> and change settings
[07:43] <Upu> hey jcoxon morning
[07:43] <Upu> very well thanks almost there
[07:43] <m1x10> cool but I dont whats really happening there :)
[07:43] <Upu> did you see the pink payload ?
[07:43] <m1x10> dont know*
[07:43] <jcoxon> well i'm playing a wav file of a previous flight
[07:44] <jcoxon> if you move the decode lines over the two yellow bars it'll start decoding the telemetry
[07:44] <m1x10> heh
[07:44] <m1x10> cool
[07:44] <m1x10> can that decode aprs frequencies? AFsK ?
[07:45] <jcoxon> well it can decode anything that fldigi can decode
[07:45] <jcoxon> but it can't do packet (as in APRS)
[07:45] <m1x10> ok
[07:47] <jcoxon> Upu, i haven't seen it
[07:47] <Upu> might be a bit early for what is I believe HAB porn :
[07:47] <Upu> http://www.flickr.com/photos/avahab/sets/72157624924217198/
[07:47] <Upu> not safe for eyes
[07:47] <jcoxon> oh wow
[07:47] <jcoxon> good work
[07:47] <jcoxon> nicely cut payload
[07:48] <Upu> I used to do wood work so just did it like it was wood
[07:48] <Upu> had to have 2 hot wire rigs though
[07:48] <Upu> one vertical one horizontal
[07:48] <jcoxon> wow
[07:48] <jcoxon> need to get you to build my payload casing
[07:49] <Upu> send me some plans I got heaps of Styrofoam left :)
[07:49] <jcoxon> might well do...
[07:49] <jcoxon> though i'm far off a payload right now
[07:49] <jcoxon> midway through a weekend of oncall
[07:50] <jcoxon> back on at 11am
[07:50] <jcoxon> so am enjoying a sunday morning before all hell breaks lose
[07:50] <Upu> seriously though all you need is a set square and a £20 work mate from BnQ and some blocks of wood to align
[07:50] <Upu> ok
[07:50] <jcoxon> Upu, i don't have the patience
[07:50] <Upu> have fun on call sucks :)
[07:50] <jcoxon> does that link work for you?
[07:50] <Upu> I quite enjoy it
[07:50] <jcoxon> http://m6jcx.no-ip.org/dl-fldigi-XMLRPC/dl-fldigi.php
[07:50] <Upu> yep
[07:50] <jcoxon> eek what oncall do you do?
[07:51] <jcoxon> to actually enjoy it :)
[07:51] <Upu> I enjoy the wood work I don't do on call :)
[07:51] <jcoxon> hehe
[07:51] <Upu> oh i get it that will work on a phone etc
[07:52] <jcoxon> should do - just php
[07:53] <jcoxon> will get the rig control fix now
[07:53] <jcoxon> then will leave it on for a while for people to play
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[08:50] <fsphil> morning all
[08:50] <jcoxon> morning fsphil
[08:51] <m1x10> hello fsphil
[08:51] <fsphil> hab porn, haha
[08:53] <jcoxon> fsphil, some more perhaps: http://m6jcx.no-ip.org/dl-fldigi-XMLRPC/dl-fldigi.php
[08:53] <fsphil> oh wow
[08:53] <jcoxon> just fighting with getting rig control
[08:55] <fsphil> that's pretty sweet -- is that live audio?
[08:55] <jcoxon> yeah its off the radio
[08:55] <jcoxon> basically you are controlling fldigi
[08:56] <jcoxon> once i've got a freq input box i'll let people play around
[08:58] <fsphil> it's got a pretty fast response time too -- I expected a bit of lag
[08:58] <jcoxon> the php is pretty simple
[08:58] <jcoxon> everything takes place on the server really
[08:58] <fsphil> compared to trying to do the decoding over the net like we did last time
[08:58] <jcoxon> its just an interface
[08:59] <jcoxon> so waterfall + text
[09:10] <fsphil> are you requesting all the data from the text buffer, or only the last x characters?
[09:10] <jcoxon> only the last 500 characters
[09:15] <jcoxon> fsphil, http://m6jcx.no-ip.org/dl-fldigi-XMLRPC/index.html
[09:18] <fsphil> ah. no full page refresh
[09:18] <jcoxon> also rigcontrol is slower then fldigi
[09:18] <jcoxon> and no need to request the freq every time
[09:19] <fsphil> I could probably add an option to save the waterfall as a jpeg, might help the load times on a slow connection
[09:21] <fsphil> although it won't look as good
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[09:34] <jcoxon> fsphil, okay - rig control added
[09:35] <jcoxon> right time for work
[09:35] <jcoxon> will leave it on if people want to play
[09:35] <jcoxon> its a long wire antenna badly setup
[09:35] <fsphil> lol
[09:35] <fsphil> bad antenna is better than no antenna
[09:35] <fsphil> are those morse or psk signals?
[09:36] <jcoxon> morse i think
[09:37] <jcoxon> fsphil, can you check the rig control works
[09:37] <jcoxon> its in Hz
[09:38] <fsphil> seems to .. is the frequency on the dial changing?
[09:41] <jcoxon> yeah
[09:42] <fsphil> are you running the output through htmlentities() ?
[09:43] <jcoxon> no
[09:43] <fsphil> just thinking if someone sends something html-like it might upset things
[09:43] <fsphil> worlds first website hack over HF :)
[09:44] <jcoxon> hehe
[09:45] <jcoxon> tis a good point
[09:45] <jcoxon> i'll fix it later when i get back from work
[09:45] <jcoxon> right have to go
[09:45] <jcoxon> will leave it on if people want to play
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[09:51] <DanielRichman> line 514 of xmlrpc.cxx should perhaps be wrapped in a REQ() call
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[09:54] <DanielRichman> and should perhaps update the UI elements
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[09:57] <Darkside> hey juxta|console
[09:57] <Darkside> whats up
[09:59] <juxta|console> hey Darkside, just working
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[11:24] <juxta|console> ping Darkside
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[12:57] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... There's a connection re-defining
[12:58] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... There's a connection re-defining "flakey"...
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[12:58] <LazyLeopard> (Oops... fat fingers here...)
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[13:11] <fsphil> makes my 3g usb dongle look good
[13:13] <LazyLeopard> ;)
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[14:14] <timbobel> hey all
[14:14] <timbobel> hey klaas, hows things
[14:16] <kladol> he Tim
[14:17] <kladol> Oke was following the balloon from 'de landelijke vossenjacht'
[14:18] <timbobel> ah allrigth
[14:18] <timbobel> funny their website, almost an exact copy of mine but with a different background color :)
[14:18] <kladol> Yep and it went down for a while
[14:19] <timbobel> yeah they said that. were you following it in a car?
[14:19] <kladol> also a big mess on the 2mtr repeater ;-)
[14:20] <kladol> No following from #home and twitter
[14:20] <kladol> Was the Icarus III also on air ?
[14:21] <timbobel> it's actually weird that it's allowed because they are neglecting a lot of ballooning & radio laws, like the big steel antenna at the bottom, kinda dangerous. but i guess for the radio they are exempt by the agentschap
[14:22] <timbobel> nah just a test i think.
[14:22] <timbobel> hey but klaas, are you going to launch something yourself?
[14:23] <kladol> Oke won't miss that flight...
[14:25] <kladol> That's the goal yes, transmitter is ok now (FSA03 too ;-)) next step the gps-sms part. Is gogong slow du to the time i can put in this project...
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[14:26] <kladol> Hi Hiena
[14:26] <Hiena> Hiya all!
[14:27] <Hiena> How things goes up?
[14:27] <kladol> Oke here @ The netherlands
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[14:30] <Hiena> Hopes, the washing cycle ends sometimes. I getting tired from the contant raining. It's got somehow under the gutter and ruined the second batch of the burning rods.
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[15:54] <m1x10> that supposed to be my first ever pcb! http://imagebin.org/113790
[15:58] <Randomskk> intersting
[15:58] <Randomskk> I'm not entirely sure why you'd bother putting that on a PCB
[15:58] <m1x10> the sma
[15:58] <m1x10> i want it in a hard position
[15:58] <m1x10> like timbomels
[15:58] <Randomskk> why not just put the sma wherever you put the hx1?
[15:59] <m1x10> on the breadboard?
[15:59] <Randomskk> ah, for breadboarding.
[15:59] <Randomskk> fair enough then, I guess.
[16:02] <m1x10> man yes
[16:02] <m1x10> stuff is moving there
[16:02] <m1x10> get put moving stuff of payload
[16:02] <m1x10> cant*
[16:02] <m1x10> on*
[16:02] <m1x10> im tired. pcb made my head blow.
[16:02] <Randomskk> don't you still need to route that?
[16:02] <m1x10> yes i did it
[16:03] <Randomskk> in the image?
[16:04] <m1x10> http://imagebin.org/113791
[16:04] <Randomskk> I'd probably do that a bit differently
[16:05] <Randomskk> to start with, using two layers is really not needed, but more importantly the RFGND should be done quite differently
[16:05] <m1x10> Randomskk I must go from PC. Do u want to help me out lateR?
[16:05] <Randomskk> sure.
[16:05] <m1x10> the robint91 guy at #sparkfun told me i should wire RG GNDS to power gnd for better performance
[16:06] <Randomskk> yes, but you should also route the traces differently
[16:06] <m1x10> can we do that later plz? im going to explode
[16:07] <Randomskk> sure.
[16:09] <m1x10> thx
[16:09] <m1x10> cu latrwer
[16:09] <m1x10> late
[16:09] <m1x10> r
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[17:20] <natrium42> lol
[17:21] <johnnyfive_> morning/evening
[17:23] <natrium42> o/
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[20:36] Action: Laurenceb is trying out kicad
[20:36] <Laurenceb> the graphics glitches are annoying
[20:36] <Randomskk> I find I just scroll in and out to force a redraw
[20:36] <Laurenceb> got a basic board underway
[20:36] <Laurenceb> ah yeah.. sometimes works
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[20:36] <Randomskk> I traced out the schematics for an old amp here https://randomskk.net/u/sugden/schematic.pdf
[20:36] <Randomskk> trying to fix it
[20:36] <Laurenceb> i like a lot of the features - like the ability to have mre complex pads
[20:37] <Randomskk> quite enjoyed the schematic editing
[20:37] <Randomskk> I really like how board editor shows the DRC clearance for stuff as you draw it
[20:37] <Laurenceb> lack of of forward annotation is slightly annoying
[20:37] <Laurenceb> wow that totally owns eagle
[20:37] <Laurenceb> looks really professional
[20:38] <Randomskk> well
[20:38] <Randomskk> graphically
[20:38] <Laurenceb> yes
[20:38] <Randomskk> in terms of the schematic it's a horrid mess :P
[20:38] <Laurenceb> heh
[20:38] <Randomskk> this was just getting the netlist down. the pcb is also a horrid mess
[20:38] <Laurenceb> the electrical rule check appears more advanced
[20:38] <Randomskk> step two is redrawing it into something vaguely useful. someone on #london-hack-space was helping me out
[20:39] <Laurenceb> im starting work on a si4432 comms dongle
[20:39] <Laurenceb> managed to screw up the libraries... whats the default library path?
[20:40] <Laurenceb> i eeschema only seems to let you have 1 library path
[20:41] <Laurenceb> or maybe i just fail
[20:41] <Laurenceb> tried to add my own library now its forgotten where the default ones are
[20:42] <Randomskk> my 'default library file path' is empty
[20:42] <Laurenceb> oh fairdoos
[20:42] <Laurenceb> all the basic components are in there somewhere
[20:42] <Laurenceb> i deleted the path and linked it to my project - doh
[20:43] <Laurenceb> *project directory
[20:45] <Laurenceb> doh - if you mouseover the entry box it tells you the default path
[20:45] <Laurenceb> thats sensible of them
[20:45] <Randomskk> nice
[20:46] <m1x10> ping Randomskk
[20:46] <Randomskk> hi m1x10
[20:46] <Randomskk> so yea, that pcb
[20:46] <m1x10> :)
[20:46] <Randomskk> basically you really only need to use one side of the board
[20:46] <m1x10> i did auto route
[20:46] <Randomskk> and you should fill the top with ground
[20:46] <Randomskk> and then do a thick trace to the signal pin
[20:47] <m1x10> thick trace why?
[20:47] <Randomskk> at the moment your RF signal is not surrounded by ground, which is bad
[20:47] <Laurenceb> Library </home/laurence/Documents/Autopilot_board/USBdongle/texas.lib> not found
[20:47] <Randomskk> thick traces have lower resistance, come closer to the ideal of a direct connection
[20:47] <Randomskk> ish.
[20:47] <Laurenceb> etc - think it still looks for them in my project folder - despite me changing the path - odd
[20:47] <m1x10> ok, how do i do it?
[20:47] <Randomskk> no idea. I've never used that program before and it appears to be windows only
[20:48] <m1x10> how thick should i do it?
[20:48] <Randomskk> about as thick as the pads it's going to is as much as is sensible.
[20:49] <m1x10> every wire has a trace width
[20:49] <m1x10> but i cant know the correct trace width
[20:50] <m1x10> i simply dont have that piece of info
[20:51] <Randomskk> just keep making it bigger until it's about wright
[20:51] <Randomskk> ew. right*
[20:51] <Randomskk> try like, 32
[20:51] <Randomskk> (mil) or 2 (mm)
[20:51] <m1x10> ok i found that the pads are 1.5mm
[20:52] <m1x10> so put 1.5mm to that trace?
[20:52] <Randomskk> sure, go for it.
[20:52] <Randomskk> the ground fill is more important really
[20:53] <m1x10> wait a minute to produce the pcb with the thick trace
[20:55] <m1x10> looks fatty now :)
[20:56] <m1x10> http://imagebin.org/113837
[20:57] <m1x10> whats next?
[20:58] <Randomskk> ground plane
[20:58] <Randomskk> you want to have the entire layer be filled with ground copper
[20:58] <Randomskk> there should be a 'polygon' or 'fill' or 'plane' option
[20:58] <m1x10> the entire pcb?
[20:59] <m1x10> timbomel's is like that?
[21:03] <m1x10> hey ho !
[21:03] <Randomskk> yea.
[21:04] <m1x10> yea goes to?
[21:04] <Randomskk> the entire pcb
[21:04] <Randomskk> and I think timobel's is like that
[21:06] <m1x10> ok I need to find that guy to tell me how to put that ground copper
[21:18] <[STAR]Atanyi|AFK> hey you RFGND is linked to circuit ground as well
[21:19] Nick change: [STAR]Atanyi|AFK -> Upu
[21:19] <Upu> silly IRC
[21:19] <Upu> you=your
[21:19] <Upu> Was having a big discussion about this earlier
[21:25] <m1x10> Upu yes
[21:26] <m1x10> its correc
[21:26] <m1x10> t
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[21:33] <Upu> I shall rewire mine !
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