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[01:07] <Wild-Wing> hello
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[01:18] <juxta> morning all
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[01:43] <Wild-Wing> hey juxta
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[07:09] <jonsowman> fsphil: pong
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[07:27] <m1x10> morning all :)
[07:30] <fsphil> morning!
[07:30] <fsphil> sorry jonsowman, ping aborted :)
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[10:12] <m1x10> fsphil hows going?
[10:14] <fsphil> not bad here m1x10 thanks, you?
[10:16] <m1x10> we got cool weather today, 27C, and that is really good
[10:17] <m1x10> so I started doing some coding with my "cooled" brain
[10:17] <m1x10> :)
[10:17] <fsphil> excellent
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[11:40] <jonsowman_work> hi all
[11:42] <LazyLeopard> hiya
[11:48] <fsphil> hullo hullo
[11:48] <jonsowman_work> hi fsphil
[11:49] <jonsowman_work> you pinged me last night?
[11:49] <fsphil> aye, thought I'd found a bug in the predictor but it was just me being thick
[11:49] <jonsowman_work> oh okay haha
[11:49] <jonsowman_work> what was up?
[11:51] <fsphil> I had a flight go outside the red box, so changed the Lat/Lon Deltas and re-ran but it returned the same result
[11:51] <fsphil> when I tried it again it did the right thing
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> ah OK
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> it was being buggy all of yesterday as Randomskk and I were working on it
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> proper GFS data caching now
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> :)
[11:52] <fsphil> yay!
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> eg try. running a prediction, then re-run it
[11:52] <jonsowman_work> second time will be near-instant
[11:53] <fsphil> so even if I changed a parameter, the ascent rate, it wouldn't need to fetch all the wind data?
[11:53] <jonsowman_work> exactly
[11:53] <fsphil> sweet
[11:53] <jonsowman_work> obviously if you change launch location/time then it'll need new data
[11:53] <jonsowman_work> but it will only get what it doesn't already have
[11:54] <jonsowman_work> so sometimes you might see the progress bar skip straight to 75%, then download the remaining bits as normal
[11:54] <jonsowman_work> thank Randomskk for it :), was his work
[11:55] <fsphil> thanks Randomskk :)
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[11:55] <fsphil> that'll be very handy for tweaking parameters just before the flight
[11:56] <jonsowman_work> definitely
[11:59] <jonsowman_work> fsphil: launch date yet?
[12:01] <fsphil> the plan was the 31st
[12:01] <fsphil> not sure I'll make that one
[12:02] <jonsowman_work> ah right
[12:02] <jonsowman_work> payload taking longer than expected?
[12:04] <fsphil> yep, a few hardware and software bits still missing
[12:04] <fsphil> I could get it together for the 31st but it wouldn't leave much time for testing
[12:04] <jonsowman_work> ah right ok :)
[12:04] <fsphil> the dates I requested cover the week after that too
[12:05] <fsphil> weekend even
[12:06] <fsphil> still missing the parachute, not sure if RocketBoy's going to get them in on time
[12:06] <jonsowman_work> could try Rockets and Things
[12:07] <jonsowman_work> we used the X-type on Apex II, mostly worked fine though I think the balloon wrapped around the shroud lines on descent
[12:07] <jonsowman_work> z
[12:07] <jonsowman_work> ignore that 'z' :P
[12:07] <fsphil> the same thing happened our parachute on cirrus, it fell with a thud :)
[12:07] <fsphil> what z? ;-)
[12:08] <jonsowman_work> :)
[12:08] <jonsowman_work> well their parachutes are perfectly good and reasonably priced
[12:08] <jonsowman_work> what size chute you after?
[12:09] <fsphil> it was a 24" but to be honest I'd probably need bigger
[12:09] <jonsowman_work> www.rocketsandthings.com
[12:09] <fsphil> looking at Rockets and Things now, nice site!
[12:09] <jonsowman_work> http://www.rocketsandthings.com/view/category/31/
[12:11] <fsphil> actually, looking at the sizing chart on the wiki the 24" might be perfect .. the payload is 350 grams
[12:12] <fsphil> though the balloon will likely still be attached
[12:14] <fsphil> oooh small rocket motors are cheap
[12:15] <jonsowman_work> light payload, nice
[12:15] <jonsowman_work> apex was a 45" chute
[12:15] <jonsowman_work> ha
[12:17] <fsphil> what where you carrying that was so heavy?
[12:17] <jonsowman_work> two cameras
[12:18] <jonsowman_work> all the ionising radiation detector electronics
[12:18] <jonsowman_work> batteries and safely packaged high voltage stuff
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[12:40] <jonsowman_work> http://hexoc.com/hab/predict/predict/#!/uuid=33d0b37de77828d66b121b2f1b39cdd0d58b787f
[12:41] <jonsowman_work> heh that would be an epic chase
[12:42] <fsphil> that chase boat would come in handy
[12:43] <jonsowman_work> yea
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[12:45] <fsphil> not as good as this chase though: http://hexoc.com/hab/predict/predict/#!/uuid=f40802d9a9cdd58a0fc3e93e2b61a6ed3f9fe62d
[12:47] <LazyLeopard> Oops. What happened there?
[12:48] <jonsowman_work> erm
[12:48] <jonsowman_work> oh dear
[12:48] <fsphil> haha
[12:48] <fsphil> looks like the wind data ended abruptly
[12:48] <jonsowman_work> not entirely sure why it does that
[12:49] <jonsowman_work> i think it's something at the NOAA end as it seems to be entirely random
[12:50] <jonsowman_work> changing the time slightly solves it
[12:50] <jonsowman_work> http://hexoc.com/hab/predict/predict/#!/uuid=06f174f8cb538ca921db8ddfefa4551ef81c3387
[12:50] <fsphil> burst and landing on the same spot?
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[12:51] <jonsowman_work> f408 - yeh
[12:51] <jonsowman_work> the predictor just quit as it got to erroneous data
[12:52] <jonsowman_work> the frontend plotted highest altitude as burst marker, and chronologically last point as landing
[12:52] <jonsowman_work> here they are one and the same as the flight path is cut short
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[12:53] <jonsowman_work> 2 secs will clear gfs data
[12:54] <jonsowman_work> there you go
[12:54] <jonsowman_work> http://hexoc.com/hab/predict/predict/#!/uuid=f40802d9a9cdd58a0fc3e93e2b61a6ed3f9fe62d
[12:55] <fsphil> aah that's it
[12:55] <m1x10> jonsowman_work where did u find such a big chut? 45''
[12:55] <jonsowman_work> i think there's just the occasional error in transfer of the data from the NOAA as forcing a refresh solves it
[12:55] <jonsowman_work> i can't think of any other explanation really
[12:55] <jonsowman_work> m1x10: Rockets and Things
[12:55] <jonsowman_work> m1x10: www.rocketsandthings.com
[12:56] <fsphil> their postage is half the price of the parachute I'm after, I'm very tempted to buy a rocket kit to make it worth while :
[12:56] <fsphil> :)
[12:56] <jonsowman_work> fsphil: yeaaa do it
[12:56] <jonsowman_work> blimey my server has been busy
[12:57] <jonsowman_work> quite a lot of load. hmm
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[12:58] <m1x10> jonsowman: was that Ripstop Parachute ok with apex2 ?
[12:58] <jonsowman_work> yup
[13:06] <m1x10> jonsowman do u have any experience with relative humidity sensors?
[13:07] <jonsowman_work> a littlle
[13:07] <jonsowman_work> what's up
[13:07] <m1x10> I wonder if there is a relation to temperature and humidity
[13:07] <m1x10> my sensor is calibrated at 25C
[13:08] <m1x10> that means it will always calculate humidity with reference to 25
[13:08] <jonsowman_work> that would suggest there is
[13:08] <jonsowman_work> warm air will hold more/less water than cooler air
[13:08] <jonsowman_work> i would guess at more, but I don't actually know
[13:08] <m1x10> anyway
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[18:45] <jonsowman> hi eroomde
[18:46] <eroomde> hi jonsowman
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[21:23] <jonsowman> anyone know anything about awstats?
[21:23] <jonsowman> having issues getting it working
[21:25] <m1x10> hi jonsowman
[21:27] <jonsowman> hi m1x10
[21:38] <jonsowman> got it working :)
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[21:47] <m1x10> what's working ? :)
[21:47] <jonsowman> awstats
[21:47] <m1x10> sorry, but don't know what's awstats :(
[21:49] <jonsowman> webserver statistics packages :)
[21:49] <m1x10> for predictor !!?!
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[21:50] <fsphil> I haven't gone much beyond webalizer
[21:51] <jonsowman> m1x10: for hexoc.com (my website) generally
[21:51] <jonsowman> including predictor
[21:51] <jonsowman> fsphil: was considering webalizer
[21:51] <jonsowman> awstats is a PITA to set up
[21:51] <jonsowman> especially as I don't run apache
[21:52] <Wild-Wing> PITA?
[21:53] <jonsowman> Wild-Wing: pain in the arse :P
[21:53] <Wild-Wing> ahhhhh ok
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[22:03] <jonsowman> fsphil: is webalizer good?
[22:03] <fsphil> it's a bit dated, don't think it's being maintained these days
[22:03] <fsphil> bit very easy to get going
[22:04] <fsphil> i=u
[22:04] <jonsowman> hmm ok
[22:05] <fsphil> doesn't handle ipv6 ip addresses, at least the version on centos doesn't
[22:05] <fsphil> sees them all as one visitor
[22:06] <fsphil> not that I get a huge amount of ipv6 hits :)
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[22:08] <jonsowman> mmm yeh
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[22:34] <griffonbot> @nearsys: Finihe visiting the Cosmosphere. Cool. Will visit the early arrivals for dinner at 6 PM #ARHAB #GPSL [http://twitter.com/nearsys/status/19285364201]
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[23:52] <juxta_> morning all
[23:56] <fsphil> morning juxta_, just heading to bed :)
[23:56] <juxta_> hehe
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