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[02:30] <juxta> earthshine: you about?
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[07:03] <earthshine> juxta: not at 2:30am no
[07:03] <earthshine> :)
[07:08] <juxta> earthshine: heh - time difference is a pain
[07:09] <juxta> was just going to ask if there was a tracking number for those GPS modules
[07:12] <earthshine> oh yeah
[07:12] <earthshine> i didn't reply last week as I was away on holiday
[07:12] <earthshine> watching the MotoGP races at Silverstone
[07:12] <earthshine> hang on i'll try to find it
[07:12] <juxta> haha, lucky
[07:12] <juxta> thanks :)
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[07:32] <juxta_> earthshine: any luck?
[07:34] <earthshine> yes i sent it to you in DM
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[09:12] <jcoxon> morning all
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[09:57] <earthshine> morning
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[13:46] <timbobel> someone has acces to the UKHas wiki?
[13:46] <timbobel> ill try coxon tonight.
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[14:16] <earthshine> why?
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[15:27] <fsphil> found another serial camera --> http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45&products_id=369
[15:29] <fsphil> same controller as the sparkfun model though, which has been discontinued.
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[18:30] <jonsowman> DanielRichman: ping
[18:30] <DanielRichman> hey jonsowman
[18:31] <jonsowman> can I be cheeky and ask for the contact number you used for Energiser?
[18:31] <DanielRichman> haha let me go ask Alex
[18:31] <jonsowman> thanks :)
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[18:39] <DanielRichman> jonsowman, ok their website has changed and the number he used is no longer on there. However I can tell you that he phoned Energizer UK specifically rather than their global hq, and I can PM you the email of the final guy in the chain of delegation, that he talked to
[18:39] <jonsowman> that'd be excellent
[18:39] <jonsowman> thank you
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[19:16] <Hiena> Good evening Sirs!
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[19:18] <fsphil> eeeevening
[19:18] <timbobel> eve
[19:18] <timbobel> ning
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[19:26] <sbasuita> Hiena: have you ever tried making explosives?
[19:27] <Hiena> Define explosives.
[19:27] Action: fsphil imagines a little beeper going off right now in some CIA warehouse
[19:27] <sbasuita> Hiena: ammonium nitrate + fuel oil?
[19:27] <sbasuita> gunpowder?
[19:27] <jonsowman> fsphil: haha
[19:27] <sbasuita> :P
[19:28] <sbasuita> it's for a cutdown >_>
[19:28] <Hiena> sbasuita, i not really count that as explosives.
[19:28] <sbasuita> Hiena: what would you count as explosives?
[19:29] <Hiena> C4, TNT, and so on.
[19:31] <sbasuita> hmm, sounds hard
[19:31] <sbasuita> (tnt)
[19:31] <Hiena> There is a quite differenties between the brisans and the common burning mixtures.
[19:32] <russss> people have used black powder for cutdowns before
[19:32] <russss> which is an explosive, although not a high explosive.
[19:32] <Hiena> Also, i'm not interested making a holes, rather making rocket propulsions.
[19:32] <sbasuita> in other news, i assembled a spud cannon with some mates today
[19:32] <sbasuita> its currently drying ;P
[19:33] <jcoxon> i had a patient who ate C4 recently
[19:33] <jcoxon> its a bad idea to do that
[19:33] <jcoxon> makes you very ill
[19:34] <Hiena> The rocket propulsion required controlled burn, and not an uncontrolled shockvawe.
[19:34] <Hiena> jcoxon, why the hell would sombody ate a c4?
[19:37] <Hiena> I means, sometimes i drink some chemicals on purpose (using some acids instead as lemon for my tea) or mistake, but eating explosives is totally weird.
[19:37] <jcoxon> well he wanted to know what it tasted like
[19:37] <jcoxon> and its got quite an interesting texture
[19:37] <jcoxon> but yes very weird
[19:39] <Hiena> Taste it? A lick wasn't enough, or just tasted like chicken for him?
[19:39] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:39] <jcoxon> its a bad idea to eat it
[19:40] <jcoxon> he actually ate P4 which is the British Army varient
[19:42] <Hiena> Instant Darwin-awards nominee.
[19:43] <jcoxon> i think you have to die to be a darwin award nominee
[19:43] <fsphil> and not have any kids
[19:44] <Hiena> Yup, thats the point.
[19:44] <jcoxon> he didn't die
[19:44] <jcoxon> if you survive the first 3 days you'll be fine
[19:44] <jcoxon> no long term effects
[19:45] <Hiena> sbasuita, btw. What kind of spud canno did you made ?
[19:45] <fsphil> I wouldn't want to be the one going to the loo after him though
[19:46] <sbasuita> Hiena: combustion
[19:46] <sbasuita> Hiena: very simple design with barrel + chamber as one piece of pvc
[19:46] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: Explosive diahrea the worst sort.
[19:46] <sbasuita> Hiena: lighter flint provides the spark
[19:47] <Hiena> How thick the PVC?
[19:47] <sbasuita> Hiena: will use an aerosol like hairspray or deoderant to get it going
[19:47] <fsphil> SpeedEvil, ooch!
[19:47] <SpeedEvil> I suppose C4 is lots less toxic than nitroglycerine.
[19:47] <sbasuita> Hiena: not very thick; can't remember. maybe 3-4mm
[19:48] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, very different situations really, yeah if some one ate nitro they'd probably not make it to hospital
[19:48] <jcoxon> if they did then they'd be fine
[19:48] <Hiena> Ok. Keep in mind at loading, the spud should fit and move easily.
[19:48] <timbobel> you should launch a toy chopper that undocks at 35kms height
[19:48] <sbasuita> Hiena: will do
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> jcoxon: Isn't nitroglycerine very much more active - in that it has direct actions on the heart rhythm - and is even (was?) prescribed for that.
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[19:50] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil, yeah thats what i mean - its absorbed in the mouth
[19:50] <jcoxon> its a vasodilator
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> ah - I see.
[19:50] Action: Hiena nods
[19:50] <jcoxon> so by holding it in their mouth they'd get an effect within a few seconds
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> Thought you meant explosive
[19:51] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:51] <Hiena> SpeedEvil, the nitro need at least 80 degree celsius to ignite.
[19:51] <jcoxon> in C4 they use RDX which is causes seizures
[19:51] <SpeedEvil> Hiena: Or moderate shock
[19:51] <jcoxon> and renal failure
[19:52] <SpeedEvil> If this is your first wierd attempt at darwin, I can only wonder what stories you might have in a few years :)
[19:52] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:53] <Hiena> SpeedEvil, actually the shock increase the local temperature to ignite the stuff.
[19:53] <jcoxon> bbl
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[19:53] <SpeedEvil> Hiena: yes, I know.
[19:53] <SpeedEvil> bubbles/...
[20:11] <Hiena> The bubbles are strage. You could easily reach 1000 degree celsius in them.
[20:12] <Hiena> Also kind of strange sight when grow up hang-glider pilots sit at the end of the start ramp blowing soap bubbles. ;)
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[20:18] <timbobel> hi guys
[20:18] <timbobel> i just wanted to say i launched my dutch HAB project website
[20:18] <timbobel> i added it too the UKHAS site too
[20:18] <timbobel> http://hollandshoogte.wordpress.com/
[20:18] <timbobel> late-dinner-time
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