highaltitude.log.20100519

[00:00] <SpeedEvil> I don't seem to have a pic of the nasty wall.
[00:00] <SpeedEvil> ~8 feet tall.
[00:00] <SpeedEvil> With a large bulge at one point.
[00:02] <SpeedEvil> For extra fun, of course, it's a retaining wall.
[00:07] <Lunar_Lander> yay more garden work :)
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[00:07] <Laurenceb> story of my life
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[00:21] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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[00:37] <stilldavid> gah, the CU predictor seems overloaded :(
[00:37] <jonsowman> stilldavid: what's up with it
[00:38] <jonsowman> oh i see
[00:38] <jonsowman> hmm
[00:38] <jonsowman> god yes it is busy
[00:38] <jonsowman> 1 min load av is 1.71
[00:38] <stilldavid> I just tried to load it a few times...
[00:39] <jonsowman> yeh load average is way up
[00:39] <jonsowman> this is on a server with 12gb RAM
[00:39] <stilldavid> wow, what else runs on it?
[00:39] <jonsowman> everything
[00:40] <stilldavid> the _whole_ internet?!
[00:40] <jonsowman> the SRCF providing computing facilities for all students and societies at cambridge uni
[00:40] <jonsowman> haha not quite :P
[00:40] <stilldavid> oh, cool.
[00:40] <stilldavid> I cloned the code that was on github to my server but couldn't quite get it to run
[00:41] <jonsowman> is this is hourly pred?
[00:41] <jonsowman> or the standalone single?
[00:41] <stilldavid> just looking here: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/predict/
[00:41] <stilldavid> planning on launching tomorrow
[00:42] <jonsowman> ah right, where from?
[00:43] <stilldavid> 40.4740, -104.8947
[00:43] <stilldavid> Windsor, CO
[00:43] <stilldavid> in the US of A.
[00:43] <jonsowman> cool, good luck!
[00:43] <stilldavid> thanks :) my first launch, I'm a bit nervous.
[00:44] <stilldavid> alright, off to go make preparations
[00:44] <jonsowman> okay, see you
[00:48] <DaveyC> Hey all :) I have a question or two. <--newbie
[00:49] <jonsowman> DaveyC: fire away
[00:49] <jonsowman> though it'll be quite quiet around here at this time
[00:49] <jonsowman> why I'm still awake is a mystery even to me
[00:50] <DaveyC> lol! Hi jonsowman. Okay. First question. I note from the website and from chatting in here previously that ham callsigns are not allowed to be "airborne" here in the uk, so we must use licence exempt frequencies and conditions. Do you have any idea on whether a cutdown CB could be used for ground to air and vice-versa communication?
[00:51] <DaveyC> i've looked through the ofcom licencing documents at length, and at no point have i found "ground based only" statements etc for CB
[00:51] <jonsowman> amateur radios can't be used on balloons, correct
[00:52] <jonsowman> I'm not entirely sure on the legality of CB airborne but IIRC they are around 100mW
[00:52] <jonsowman> there's a LOT of chatter in the 27 and 40Mhz bands
[00:52] <jonsowman> so interference is a big problem on those frequencies
[00:52] <DaveyC> oh yeah, definately. Not as much as there used to be, but it does remain
[00:52] <jonsowman> as well as needing enormous antennas
[00:52] <DaveyC> well i had some thought on that
[00:53] <jonsowman> a directional ground antenna on those frequencies would be impractical
[00:53] <DaveyC> my "thought" was to trail a 18ft copper wire from the payload itself. then when it is coming in to land, the microcontroller could fire a small 3v motor to wind it back in
[00:55] <jonsowman> a perfectly valid thought, but it's not the payload antenna that poses the issue
[00:55] <jonsowman> it's the ground side antenna
[00:55] <jonsowman> to keep a track of the balloon as it gets further away or towards the horizon, you need a directional antenna
[00:55] <jonsowman> ie a Yagi
[00:56] <DaveyC> i have a CB yagi here
[00:56] <DaveyC> old one mind you
[00:56] <jonsowman> what frequency?
[00:56] <DaveyC> 27mhz
[00:56] <DaveyC> not sure on the exact freq
[00:57] <DaveyC> but it was used for CB in the past
[00:57] <jonsowman> ah fair enough, i wasn't aware they existed with gains as high as they do
[00:57] <DaveyC> from measuring the driver i'd say it's just about bang on 27.000
[00:57] <jonsowman> sounds right
[00:58] <jonsowman> i don't see any particular issues with using CB, but as I said I'm not sure of the legality
[00:58] <jonsowman> noise will probably be an issue too
[00:58] <DaveyC> yeah me neither
[00:58] <DaveyC> yes, i had considered that
[00:59] <jonsowman> line codes and things can get around noise to an extent
[00:59] <DaveyC> i may have a scan around over a few weeks to see what the chatter is like
[00:59] <jonsowman> yep
[00:59] <jonsowman> we tend to use 70cms, as it's nice and quiet
[00:59] <jonsowman> most of the time
[00:59] <DaveyC> i'm about 5 miles away from a prime listening point
[00:59] <DaveyC> 587ft elev
[01:00] <jonsowman> is there any reason you're after CB instead of 70cms or similar?
[01:01] <SpeedEvil> DaveyC: Elevation doesn't really help that much
[01:01] <SpeedEvil> DaveyC: unless you're very close to the balloon
[01:01] <DaveyC> well, i did consider one of the radiometrix units. I basically want to try to send a command to the payload, and have a response sent back. I wasn't 100% sure on the viability of doing that with them unity
[01:02] <DaveyC> SpeedEvil, i mean as a general test. Just to see what kind of noise i am picking up at that elevation.
[01:02] <SpeedEvil> ah
[01:02] <DaveyC> i figure it would be a pretty good tracking location too.. uninterrupted LOS for miles
[01:02] <DaveyC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billinge_Hill
[01:03] <DaveyC> oops... ^ *with them units
[01:07] <DaveyC> I'm writing a piece of software to receive the GPS location from the payload, and adjust the positioning of the yagi to perfectly track it *fingers crossed*
[01:08] <DaveyC> well, that's "the plan" anyway :)
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[09:05] <jcoxon> DanielRichman, rharrison, fsphill and I have added checksum checks to dl-fldigi, bearing and distance
[09:05] <jcoxon> and I just made the string line change colour depending on the checksum
[09:06] <jcoxon> it might be a little bit much though!
[09:06] <DanielRichman> ooh nice
[09:07] <rharrison> Yay
[09:08] <rharrison> Like green for pass read fail etc... Are we supporting both
[09:08] <DanielRichman> though we might need a way to show the last good string
[09:08] <jcoxon> yeah
[09:08] <rharrison> ie NMEA and CTCITT
[09:08] <jcoxon> yeah does both
[09:09] <rharrison> Cool CheckSums are cool
[09:09] <jcoxon> DanielRichman, well it doesn't update the boxes unless the checksum passes
[09:09] <rharrison> echo :)
[09:09] <jcoxon> and it still uploads the data to the server
[09:09] <jcoxon> as that data could still be usefl
[09:09] <rharrison> Bearing and distance will be cool
[09:09] <jcoxon> its really just to stop corrupt data screwing with interface
[09:10] <rharrison> Is that calced from the location of the reciever
[09:10] <jcoxon> yes
[09:11] <rharrison> Awsumness now I need to lean how to use a compas and get the gps to upload the mobile pos to the client
[09:11] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, cool, that's good
[09:11] <rharrison> jcoxon, are you finished exam wise now?
[09:11] <jcoxon> writtens yes
[09:11] <jcoxon> i've got 2 weeks till my practical
[09:11] <rharrison> Ooh what do you do there? Diagnose cut sew ?#
[09:12] <jcoxon> sort of
[09:12] <jcoxon> tests skills really
[09:12] <jcoxon> with real patients and actors pretending to be mad etc
[09:12] <jcoxon> its quite challenging
[09:14] <jcoxon> regarding the interface - it all works well on my laptop but i suspect that my resolution is quite wide
[09:14] <jcoxon> so can people keep testing it on theirs as I'm not sure the sizes
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[10:02] <jcoxon> DanielRichman, i think i've fixed some of the resizing issues
[10:03] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, pulled & now building
[10:08] <jcoxon> literally just pushed it
[10:09] <DanielRichman> Ok it builds fine
[10:09] <DanielRichman> although :P
[10:09] <DanielRichman> dialogs/fl_digi.cxx: In function void create_fl_digi_main_dl_fldigi():
[10:09] <DanielRichman> dialogs/fl_digi.cxx:4822: warning: unused variable sw
[10:09] <jcoxon> yeah yeah
[10:09] <jcoxon> i know about that
[10:09] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, perfect, it's fixed!
[10:09] <jcoxon> its not really
[10:10] <jcoxon> you can still enlarge the yellow rx box
[10:10] <jcoxon> behind the wfall
[10:10] <jcoxon> but its a lot better then it was
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[10:11] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, the status bar and the row of buttons above it are fixed though
[10:11] <jcoxon> indeed
[10:11] <edmoore> morning all
[10:11] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, although ... try clicking the maximise button
[10:11] <DanielRichman> :P
[10:11] <DanielRichman> can we disable that?
[10:11] <jcoxon> you see that works on mine
[10:12] <jcoxon> but by default its a bit funny - i always press the maximise button to sort mine out
[10:12] <jcoxon> morning edmoore
[10:18] <jcoxon> DanielRichman, lets just roll those packages
[10:18] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:18] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, yeah about to set the win32 build going
[10:19] <jcoxon> shall we change the revision to 106?
[10:19] <jcoxon> to signify the change and monitor who has updated
[10:21] <jcoxon> done
[10:21] <jcoxon> so use the latest of mine
[10:21] <jcoxon> and if we make the packages we can upload them and get people to test them out
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[10:24] <jcoxon> it also might be worth configuring with --disable-flarq
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[10:36] <jcoxon> bbl
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[13:05] <sbasuita> thanks for the qsl card jcoxon :)
[13:15] <jcoxon> sbasuita, wow post was quick
[13:15] <jcoxon> i only put that in yesterday afternoon
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[14:59] <stilldave> ping jonsowman
[15:01] <jonsowman> stilldave: hi
[15:01] <stilldave> hey, any word on the predictor?
[15:01] <stilldave> still getting server busy notices.
[15:05] <jonsowman> stilldave: fixed
[15:06] <stilldave> beautiful... not sure if you just got rid of the CPU load check, but I can ping you when I'm done with it
[15:06] <jonsowman> no it's fine, don't worry
[15:07] <jonsowman> there was a lockfile remaining from a prediction run that didn't finish properly
[15:07] <jonsowman> deleted it, should all be OK now
[15:07] <stilldave> thanks so much!
[15:07] <jonsowman> no worries :)
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[16:27] Action: juxta_ is contemplating buying a new toy for balloon chasing
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[16:40] <SpeedEvil> juxta_: A helicopter?
[16:40] <juxta_> haha
[16:40] <juxta_> I wish
[16:40] <juxta_> no, just a cheap 4wd car to cope with the reall bad roads where our balloons land :)
[16:42] <juxta_> really*
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[17:35] <rharrison> hey natrium42
[17:36] <natrium42> yo rob
[17:36] <rharrison> I really liked the new tracker
[17:36] <rharrison> great with the predicition
[17:36] <natrium42> :)
[17:36] <natrium42> that's mostly cusf's code though
[17:37] <natrium42> i just integrated it
[17:37] <rharrison> Edmoore playing in the evening but it seemed to work very nicely
[17:37] <rharrison> There was a bit with some weird data going backwards and forwards
[17:37] <rharrison> Not sure what happened there as it was ok on the old version of the tracker
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[17:38] <natrium42> edmoore playing?
[17:39] <edmoore> don't ask
[17:39] <edmoore> am putting 10.04 netbook remix on my chase eeepc. it's really quite nice. typing thesis on it
[17:39] <rharrison> ont the way up at the 10k mark there is some spurious data
[17:40] <rharrison> is that the new eeebuntu
[17:40] <natrium42> :)
[17:41] <rharrison> natrium42, that spurious data does not appear on the old tracker http://www.robertharrison.org/tracker/map.php?height=1050
[17:41] <edmoore> it's not eeebuntu, but ubuntu 10.04 netbook remix, i.e. straight from canonical
[17:41] <edmoore> and it's great
[17:41] <edmoore> prefer it fo sho
[17:41] <rharrison> oooh cool
[17:42] <rharrison> and it works with the devices ie wifo etc ?
[17:42] <rharrison> wifi
[17:42] <edmoore> that's how i'm talking to you now
[17:42] <rharrison> Coolio
[17:42] <edmoore> be aware tho that i put / on the faster 4gb ssd and /home on the 16gb one
[17:43] <edmoore> but actually once you put chunky things on, the 4gb ssd isn't that big
[17:43] <edmoore> so have had to symlink some stuff onto the bigger slower disc
[17:45] <natrium42> rharrison, maybe the points were out of order, i need to fix that in the code
[17:46] <rharrison> natrium42, that makes sense
[17:46] <rharrison> BTW I tried to uplad the chase details has the format changed or the password?
[17:46] <natrium42> nope
[17:46] <rharrison> humm
[17:46] <rharrison> Weird
[17:46] <rharrison> Will have a play tonight
[17:47] <natrium42> k, let me know if something is broken
[17:47] <rharrison> I sent them to old server on my website and all was fine
[17:47] <edmoore> gtg
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[17:47] <rharrison> I just un commented the old spacenears stuff and it failed but i was a bit busy at the time to debug
[17:47] <rharrison> edmoore|away, bye
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[18:24] <m0tek> evening
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[18:25] <m0tek> DanielRichman, is there an eta on dl-fldigi being in a deb repo?
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[18:33] <natrium42> today + 1 month
[18:33] <natrium42> :P
[18:34] <m0tek> super
[18:36] <natrium42> release_time = time() + 60*60*24*30;
[18:38] <m0tek> ok well i will test it now
[18:39] <sbasuita> m0tek: release a tarball and i'll package it up ;)
[18:39] <m0tek> where is the newest-but-still-stable release of dl-fldigi that i can download? on goog proj?
[18:39] <m0tek> sbasuita, i volunteer you
[18:39] <sbasuita> oh wait
[18:39] <sbasuita> m0tek = ed?
[18:39] <sbasuita> thought you were james
[18:39] <m0tek> yes
[18:39] <m0tek> m0 darling, m0
[18:39] <natrium42> his alter ego
[18:39] <m0tek> infact it's my eeego
[18:40] <natrium42> rofl
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[18:41] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: get a tarball released from git!
[18:41] <sbasuita> need to sort out list of required features for 2.0
[18:41] <m0tek> cos i will put it through its paces on the eee
[18:42] <m0tek> what are the required features?
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[18:44] <sbasuita> m0tek: btw you do know you can get the old dlfldigi deb from my ppa?
[18:46] <m0tek> i don't
[18:46] <m0tek> well, i do now
[18:47] <sbasuita> hmmm
[18:47] <sbasuita> need to update it for lucid
[18:47] <sbasuita> one sec
[18:51] <sbasuita> ok pending binary copy into lucid
[18:51] <sbasuita> hopefully it still works ;P
[18:51] <sbasuita> (https://launchpad.net/~simrunbasuita/+archive/dl-fldigi)
[18:52] <m0tek> tell me when
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[18:56] <sbasuita> m0tek: note that this package 'conflicts' with the fldigi package so you can't have both installed at the same time
[18:57] <sbasuita> it's based off 3.11.4
[18:57] <m0tek> in sources.list, what do i put after that line?
[18:57] <m0tek> in terms of lucid restricted
[18:59] <sbasuita> m0tek: just run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:simrunbasuita/dl-fldigi
[19:01] <m0tek> i did that, followed by apt-get update
[19:01] <m0tek> and it can't find dl-fldigi
[19:01] <sbasuita> m0tek: yeah, cause the copy is still 'pending'
[19:01] <sbasuita> not sure how long launchpad will take
[19:01] <m0tek> ah
[19:02] <sbasuita> oh
[19:02] <sbasuita> its just published apparently
[19:02] <sbasuita> m0tek: 28 seconds ago
[19:03] <m0tek> got it
[19:04] <m0tek> cool it works
[19:04] <m0tek> ta sbasuita
[19:04] <m0tek> ready for a chase
[19:04] <sbasuita> beautiful weather
[19:05] <m0tek> have not been on a chase for quite a while
[19:05] <m0tek> since feb i think
[19:05] <sbasuita> hopefully we'll have a launch this weekend
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[19:05] <m0tek> who's launching?
[19:05] <sbasuita> haven't heard that anybody is
[19:05] <sbasuita> but somebody *should* :)
[19:06] <m0tek> agreed
[19:06] <m0tek> there are lots and lots of launches atm
[19:06] <m0tek> would make an interesting graph
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[19:11] <m0tek> right bbl
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[19:33] <edmoore> test
[19:33] <SpeedEvil> fail.
[19:33] <edmoore> how do I un away myself
[19:33] <edmoore> i.e the opposite of /away
[19:33] <jonsowman> just /away with no args
[19:33] <edmoore> ta
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[19:56] <natrium42> hah, brits... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aItZLhS0mAU
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[21:00] <jcoxon> evening
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[22:27] <rjharrison> evening all
[22:27] <rjharrison> DanielRichman, is there a new windo$e version available yet?
[22:28] <natrium42> eww
[22:28] <rjharrison> Yep eww I have the linux versions just fine
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[22:41] <DanielRichman> rjharrison, I left it building. Will go back to linux later
[22:43] <rjharrison> ok cool
[22:43] <rjharrison> ping RocketBoy can I remove the old xaben[5-9] xmls
[22:44] <rjharrison> I think we have settled on just xaben last time
[22:46] <rjharrison> DanielRichman whats the latest revison
[22:46] <rjharrison> 106?
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[22:56] <rjharrison> evening jcoxon
[22:56] <jcoxon> good evening rjharrison
[22:57] <jcoxon> i think i've ticked all the boxes DanielRichman requires for us to do a dl-fldigi release
[22:57] <rjharrison> david is busy with teh ash cloud so won't get a definative till next week or later
[22:57] <rjharrison> hehe and what boxes are those ( it compiles :) )
[22:57] <jcoxon> ouch
[22:58] <jcoxon> fixed the resize issues :-p
[22:58] <jcoxon> well some of them
[22:58] <rjharrison> I'm compiling the linux one atm
[22:58] <jcoxon> have you seen all the new features?
[22:58] <rjharrison> I guess it's gps location soon
[22:58] <jcoxon> yeah
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[22:59] <fsphil> jcoxon, is it too late to sneak in the last commit I made?
[22:59] <jcoxon> yeah why not
[22:59] <jcoxon> its a sensible commit
[23:00] <fsphil> yea -- had old fldigi crash a few times because of differences
[23:00] <jcoxon> i'll pull it and push it
[23:00] <rjharrison> go on then
[23:00] <rjharrison> I have just pulled you 5 mins ago
[23:01] <fsphil> hehe
[23:01] <rjharrison> ;-)
[23:02] <rjharrison> I'm linking the green bar text
[23:02] <fsphil> yea that's a little bit genius
[23:02] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:02] <jcoxon> its a lot of green
[23:02] <fsphil> very bright yea
[23:02] <Randomskk> http://www.youtube.com/user/gwz40#p/u/6/_8aH-M3PzM0
[23:02] <fsphil> depends on the theme though
[23:03] <Randomskk> mechanical computers for fire control solutions
[23:03] <Randomskk> :o
[23:03] <rjharrison> detect and extract are not ticked in --hab mode
[23:03] <Randomskk> continous value, instant output, does trig functions, multiplication, addition, integration, taking components of vectors, even functions of two variables etc
[23:03] <rjharrison> no I think it is auto d&e but it should idelly be ticked too
[23:03] <rjharrison> no = now
[23:04] <fsphil> http://www.sanslogic.co.uk/files/checksum-pass.png
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[23:04] <RocketBoy> rjharrision: yes remove the old xmls
[23:07] <earthshine> evening
[23:07] <earthshine> rjharrison: thanks for the card
[23:07] <jcoxon> earthshine, that was me i think :-p
[23:08] <earthshine> oh shit
[23:08] <earthshine> of course - pegasus
[23:08] <earthshine> DOH!!
[23:08] <earthshine> jcoxon: thanks for the card
[23:08] <earthshine> :D
[23:09] <rjharrison> jcoxon what do you think on the auto ticking of d&e option for --hab?
[23:09] <jcoxon> yeah its a good idea
[23:09] <rjharrison> Do we know why the resizing died when the output window was removed?
[23:10] <jcoxon> not sure i understand
[23:10] <fsphil> another thought: have --hab mode the default
[23:10] <jcoxon> fsphil, well what i've done on osx is to have a dlfldigiHAB link
[23:10] <jcoxon> so its a applescript that opens it with --hab
[23:10] <jcoxon> it'll be even easier on windows and linux
[23:10] <rjharrison> fsphil I think that is a good point as we're calling this dl-fldigi now
[23:10] <fsphil> yep
[23:11] <fsphil> the non-hab mode doesn't really offer anything now
[23:11] <fsphil> that regular fldigi can't do
[23:11] <Randomskk> but it still conflicts with fldigi
[23:11] <Randomskk> so having both installed can be annoying
[23:11] <jcoxon> not any longer Randomskk
[23:11] <rjharrison> true
[23:11] <jcoxon> fsphil, fixed that
[23:11] <Randomskk> ah
[23:11] <jcoxon> latest commit
[23:11] <rjharrison> :)
[23:11] <jcoxon> we work fast
[23:11] <Randomskk> can we select different operating modes to rtty inside --hab?
[23:11] <rjharrison> Yep
[23:11] <jcoxon> of course
[23:11] <fsphil> we readz your mind :p
[23:12] <Randomskk> can we transmit?
[23:12] <rjharrison> as people use other modes such as dominox
[23:12] <rjharrison> That is a good point Randomskk
[23:12] <jcoxon> Randomskk, i've removed the tx input box so it'll be a challenge
[23:12] <rjharrison> But the future of hab might be two way coms :)
[23:13] <jcoxon> well you can use normal dl-fldigi then
[23:13] <jcoxon> dl-fldigi --hab is pretty much a rx system
[23:13] <Randomskk> yea
[23:13] <jcoxon> and 99% of people will use it in that way
[23:13] <fsphil> can fldigi run alongside dl-fldigi?
[23:13] <Randomskk> that's fine and how I think it should be, just that you may not want --hab only for dl-fldigi
[23:13] <jcoxon> fsphil, should be able to
[23:14] <jcoxon> now that you've shifted the config files
[23:14] <Randomskk> however --hab as default might not be a bad idea
[23:14] <Randomskk> sound card conflicts could happen
[23:14] <fsphil> true Randomskk
[23:14] <jcoxon> port audio can probably cope
[23:15] <jcoxon> i don't see the issue in not having --hab as default
[23:15] <Randomskk> nah, it's not hard to do
[23:15] <jcoxon> i was thinking about distributing 2 icons, one with hte --hab command arg
[23:15] <Randomskk> sounds reasonable
[23:15] <jcoxon> the main issue people had was that they had to have fldigi and dl-fldigi
[23:16] <jcoxon> but now you only need dl-fldigi as dl-fldigi without cmd args is normal vanilla fldigi
[23:16] <Randomskk> sorted
[23:16] <fsphil> vanilla fldigi but still with string upload
[23:16] <jcoxon> well yeah
[23:16] <Randomskk> yea
[23:17] <jcoxon> but that offline by default so not an issue really
[23:17] <rjharrison> supa dupa
[23:17] <rjharrison> IU'm liking this a lot
[23:17] <jcoxon> its shaping up well
[23:17] <jcoxon> need to get it out though so people can test it
[23:18] <rjharrison> DanielRichman is rolling the M$ version
[23:19] <jcoxon> okay pushed fsphills update
[23:19] <jcoxon> so my git is the latest
[23:19] <rjharrison> I'm going to float on the next one
[23:19] <rjharrison> you git :)
[23:19] <rjharrison> 106r?
[23:19] <jcoxon> yeah
[23:19] <jcoxon> but one sec
[23:19] <jcoxon> shall i make d&e default
[23:19] <rjharrison> yep that would be good
[23:20] <rjharrison> a tick I assume you mean
[23:20] <jcoxon> yes
[23:20] <rjharrison> do we have config for gps still or has that gone
[23:20] <rjharrison> I would like a box for /dev/ttyUSB1
[23:20] <jcoxon> well there is a box
[23:20] <jcoxon> already
[23:21] <jcoxon> but no code behind it
[23:21] <rjharrison> I'll take responsibility for that if you like
[23:21] <jcoxon> great
[23:21] <jcoxon> cross platform please :-p
[23:21] <rjharrison> Haveing written the uart stuff already :)
[23:22] <rjharrison> humm
[23:22] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:22] <rjharrison> I'll do my best
[23:22] <rjharrison> linux and mac :)
[23:22] <jcoxon> well thats easy
[23:22] <rjharrison> micro$hite may take a bit longer :)
[23:22] <jcoxon> coolio
[23:22] <Randomskk> microsoft serial isn't that bad
[23:22] <Randomskk> I have code around to read and parse NMEA from a serial port GPS on both windows and linux
[23:23] <Randomskk> I did later drop linux support
[23:23] <Randomskk> but uh, version control
[23:23] <rjharrison> well with a bit of luck it will be supported under the mingw libraries
[23:23] <rjharrison> I have the code for linux here
[23:24] <Randomskk> http://github.com/randomskk/RCControl/blob/90c5dba49cf83b838a689d187dc76e344df5971c/serial_port.cpp
[23:24] <Randomskk> that reads serial
[23:24] <Randomskk> http://github.com/randomskk/RCControl/blob/90c5dba49cf83b838a689d187dc76e344df5971c/gps_receiver.cpp parses nmea, badly
[23:25] <jcoxon> rjharrison, nearly done
[23:25] <jcoxon> green is so cool
[23:26] <rjharrison> It bloody glow in the dark green undel linux
[23:26] <rjharrison> under
[23:26] <jcoxon> hehe its fltk green
[23:26] <jcoxon> we can try and tone it down
[23:26] <rjharrison> Randomskk nice but you don't save the state of the port and return it on exit do you?
[23:26] <rjharrison> It's not that important
[23:29] <Randomskk> apps should set the state of the port before they use it
[23:29] <Randomskk> also on linux it doesn't really 'save state' as far as I'm aware
[23:29] <Randomskk> plus, hey, if the GPS is on that port you want gps settings anyway :P
[23:29] <Randomskk> nevertheless it may be best practises to do so
[23:32] <jcoxon> haha
[23:32] <jcoxon> rjharrison, i've set extract and dectection to default
[23:33] <jcoxon> however the tickbox in the config doesn't actually work
[23:33] <jcoxon> DanielRichman didn't get round to doing the code
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[23:34] <rjharrison> http://www.robertharrison.org/images/dl-fldigi.png
[23:34] <jcoxon> urgh
[23:34] <rjharrison> FYI
[23:34] <jcoxon> can't you make it bigger
[23:35] <jcoxon> we are never going to fit everything into such a small window!
[23:35] <jcoxon> do we need to make an eeepc version?
[23:35] <rjharrison> That's just the default
[23:35] <rjharrison> No
[23:35] <jcoxon> oh
[23:35] <jcoxon> hmmmm thats something i could fix
[23:35] <jcoxon> though not immediately
[23:36] <rjharrison> ok bed beckons for me
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[23:53] <jcoxon> night all
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