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[08:26] <earthshine> morning
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[09:19] <earthshine> juxta: ping
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[09:40] <juxta|console> hey earthshine
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[10:10] <earthshine> juxta|console: sent you an email
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[16:07] <juxta> earthshine: ok, got it
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[17:17] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: did we id the airport?
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[18:06] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: yes
[18:06] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: Lakenheath
[18:07] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: RAF
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[19:09] <rjharrison> Hehe I'm inspirational http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8660000/newsid_8663200/8663272.stm
[19:10] <rjharrison> This is todays cbbc
[19:11] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:14] <earthshine> using hot air too Rob!
[19:16] <earthshine> that's a terrible piece of journalism
[19:16] <earthshine> it will hopefully land near the school in the next day or so
[19:16] <earthshine> WTF!
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[19:21] <sbasuita> hey i'm a person in britain from a school! ;P
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[19:26] <appletizer> would highaltitude be a precursor to our very own space programme? :)
[19:27] Action: SpeedEvil declaims 'Space, The final frontier!'
[19:27] <appletizer> lol
[19:28] <fsphil> Space 0.9
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[19:58] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: their payload is so much better than ours
[19:58] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: lol handwarmers - the solution is to juice up the camera
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[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[21:07] <Lunar_Lander> hi natrium42
[21:07] <natrium42> yo
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> DFS mailed me
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> they said: "No radar reflector required"
[21:08] <Lunar_Lander> I was like "WTF?"
[21:17] <rjharrison> Back
[21:17] <rjharrison> Im feeling very tired atm
[21:18] <Lunar_Lander> hello rjharrison
[21:19] <rjharrison> hi Lunar_Lander
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[21:22] <Hiena> Lunar_Lander, no radar reflector?
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> yeah thus the WTF
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[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> Hiena I will put one on anywaa
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> *anyway
[21:41] <Hiena> Good idea. Better to be on the safe side.
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[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> is there a guide how to make a RR?
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[21:44] <jcoxon> hehe have they found that balloon then?
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> hello jcoxon
[21:45] <Hiena> Lunar_Lander, dunno. I used to make a inside-out diamond style.
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> wire and aluminum foil?
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> jcoxon we are discussing why germany says "radar reflector not required"
[21:46] <Hiena> Spurce or balsa and aluminium foil.
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> that was in an DFS email today
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[21:46] <Hiena> Keep it light.
[21:47] <Hiena> Also made a few depron, copper foil sandwich.
[21:47] <Lunar_Lander> yeah that is rule 1 anyway :)
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[21:47] <jcoxon_> oops
[21:47] <Lunar_Lander> where does the Cu sandwich go?
[21:47] <Hiena> The depron is the bread, the copper is the ham.
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> oh ok
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> and these sandwiches, what is their function?
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[21:49] <Hiena> It has higher structural strenght and float on the water.
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> aj
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> so like bumpers below the payload?
[21:49] <Hiena> Also, much easier to paint bright orange.
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[21:50] <Hiena> Much like a marker.
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> btw my chute is white-yellow-orange
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> is that good?
[21:51] <Hiena> If the payload hits swallow water, the reflector will float on the surface.
[21:51] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:53] <Hiena> The chute isn't rigid enough. If the payload hit a tree, the chute will collapse. The reflector, due it's rigid struture, will stay on the top.
[21:53] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> I was just asking if the colour choice as such was good
[21:54] <Hiena> Yeah, it's right.
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> I figured that this might be better than a black chute or something
[21:55] <Hiena> Also, stick some reflective material to the payload or the chute. It helps the night time searching. Also, good idea to invest in the "glow in the dark" paints.
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:56] <Hiena> I used them on night flying RC planes. Usually, i found faster the plane in the bushes at the nighttime, than daytime.
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> good idea
[21:58] <sbasuita> can't stitch my panorama!
[21:58] <sbasuita> keep getting oom errors
[21:58] <sbasuita> ;(
[21:59] <Randomskk> need moar ram
[21:59] <Randomskk> how much ram does you have
[21:59] <sbasuita> 2gb
[21:59] <Randomskk> also how many photos and perhaps try lowering each one's resolution
[21:59] <sbasuita> plus about 4g swap
[21:59] <Randomskk> they are being stitched together anyway, no need to keep them at like 1000 megaplox each
[21:59] <Randomskk> swap is yucky anyway
[22:00] <sbasuita> yeah its encrypted so super slow ;)
[22:00] <Randomskk> same here
[22:00] <Randomskk> but I have 4gb ram
[22:01] <sbasuita> its 82 photos
[22:02] <Randomskk> that is a lot
[22:02] <Randomskk> are you sure it's even a good idea to pano 82 photos
[22:02] <sbasuita> yeah its probably a bad idea
[22:02] <sbasuita> there's a tonne of overlap
[22:02] <sbasuita> also some black spaces
[22:02] <sbasuita> haven't been through it properly
[22:03] <sbasuita> thought i'd brute force ;P
[22:03] <Randomskk> photoshop cs5 is excellent at filling in black spaces btw
[22:03] <Randomskk> brute force isn't great here
[22:03] <Randomskk> select some decent ones
[22:03] <Randomskk> also start small
[22:03] <Randomskk> do like a 3 photo or 5 photo pano
[22:03] <Randomskk> brb
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[22:42] <Laurenceb> hello
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[22:43] <Laurenceb> Randomskk: the stm32 TAMPER_RTC pin, can it be left floating?
[22:44] <rjharrison> Hey natrium42
[22:44] <rjharrison> How's it going
[22:45] <rjharrison> Sorry about not being able to lauch this w/e to get two balloons in the air
[22:47] <rjharrison> ping fsphil
[22:47] <fsphil> hiya rjharrison
[22:47] <rjharrison> Hows it going
[22:48] <fsphil> swimmingly :)
[22:48] <rjharrison> I like the packaging changes to dl-fldigi
[22:48] <fsphil> good good - hopefully we can get some deb and rpm packages soon
[22:48] <rjharrison> Could I add one request can we create an additional shortcut with the --hab option
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> hi fsphil
[22:49] <rjharrison> fsphil I can wrap RPM
[22:49] <fsphil> hiya Lunar_Lander
[22:49] <fsphil> rjharrison, it should make a HAB icon but i haven't honestly tested it
[22:50] <rjharrison> I just pulled the beta from danielrichman and no such option
[22:50] <rjharrison> Perhaps he needs to compile up again
[22:51] <rjharrison> It's really looking nice these days so I had better get on with the server stuff and make some improvements :)
[22:51] <fsphil> what'cha got planned?
[22:52] <rjharrison> Well just a big tidy up and improve the debugging for when things go wrong
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[22:52] <rjharrison> A test mode would be good too
[22:53] <SpeedEvil1> #maemo-hostmode-discussion.chat
[22:53] <SpeedEvil1> argh
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> and a "how to make a radar reflector"
[22:53] <SpeedEvil1> Lunar_Lander: Sphere of lead the size of a small moon?
[22:53] <Lunar_Lander> lead?!
[22:53] <fsphil> that's no moon!
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> I mean they proved on mythbusters that a lead balloon is possible
[22:54] <Lunar_Lander> but it is heavy as s****
[22:55] <SpeedEvil1> Lunar_Lander: I have plans for an aluminium balloon
[22:55] <SpeedEvil1> which is actually practical - well mostly.
[22:55] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[22:56] Nick change: SpeedEvil1 -> SpeedEvil
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> I think lead would be fun
[22:57] <SpeedEvil> I'm unsure it's impossible - it's got sucky tensile strength
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[22:57] <fsphil> rjharrison, what desktop environment are you using? (assuming linux?)
[22:57] <Lunar_Lander> it rips easily
[22:58] <Lunar_Lander> you should check out the MythBusters episode on it
[22:59] <russss> http://mythbustersresults.com/episode96
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> My DSL router is syncing at 128K at the moment - so video isn't going to work so well alas
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> yeeh
[23:07] <Lunar_Lander> *yeah
[23:11] <rjharrison> fsphil, correct linux
[23:12] <fsphil> I don't want to install dl-fldigi from source yet as it will probably mess with fldigi's files
[23:13] <rjharrison> it does
[23:13] <fsphil> but installing it elsewhere seems to put the icons in the proper place
[23:13] <fsphil> I'll try it out on the laptop later
[23:13] <rjharrison> but having said that it doesn't seem to upset things nuch
[23:13] <rjharrison> Right bed beckons
[23:13] <rjharrison> nights all
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[23:22] <earthshine> evening
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[23:25] <earthshine> what's new?
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[23:34] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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