highaltitude.log.20100501

[00:02] <natrium> hey rjharrison
[00:02] <natrium> how are you?
[00:04] <rjharrison> natrium fine
[00:04] <rjharrison> tired
[00:04] <rjharrison> I'm off to bed actually
[00:04] <rjharrison> caming at ERS tomorrow
[00:04] <rjharrison> EARS
[00:04] <rjharrison> caping
[00:04] <rjharrison> camping
[00:04] <rjharrison> I'm very tires
[00:04] <rjharrison> d
[00:04] <rjharrison> as you can see
[00:05] <rjharrison> will chat tomorrw when awake
[00:05] <rjharrison> nights all
[00:05] rjharrison (~rharrison@62.49.185.11) left irc:
[00:10] <G1MHU> nn all
[00:11] G1MHU (~d99bcdb1@gateway/web/freenode/x-cugxmdxwzfmlcvwa) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[00:16] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Bye
[00:22] fsphil (~phil@2001:470:1f09:483:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[00:59] juxta (fourtytwo@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude.
[01:45] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[01:47] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[02:15] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[02:15] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude.
[02:15] <DanielRichman> it builds!
[02:17] Jasperw (~jasperw@92.40.108.26.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[02:48] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[02:57] juxta|console (~juxta@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude.
[03:38] <juxta|console> sbasuita: are you about?
[04:13] <natrium> juxta|console, he's probably sleeping
[04:22] <juxta|console> fair point :)
[04:22] <juxta|console> was going to ask about the data format for ALIEN1
[04:22] <juxta|console> any idea why they are transmitting temp as hex?
[04:26] <natrium> hmm, i think he posted the format on the blog
[04:26] <natrium> ah, dunno
[04:28] <juxta|console> how are you going re approval to launch natrium?
[04:29] <natrium> i was the blocking factor -- was finishing course projects
[04:29] <natrium> but now i can finally resume the process
[04:30] <juxta|console> ah right
[04:30] <juxta|console> I'm hoping to be ready to launch again soon also :)
[04:30] <natrium> they wanted a french translation XD
[04:31] <natrium> cool, what kind of payload?
[04:33] <juxta|console> haha - do you speak French natrium?
[04:33] <juxta|console> at first I think I'll re-launch my higher baud rate test
[04:33] <juxta|console> then do another camera launch
[04:33] <juxta|console> have a potential sponsor onboard
[04:34] <natrium> nah, i had to contact a friend to do the translation
[04:35] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Quit: The cake is a lie !
[04:36] <juxta|console> when do you plan to launch?
[04:38] <natrium> some time in june
[04:38] <natrium> dunno, might launch from US instead
[04:41] jasonb (~jasonb@dsl027-180-244.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[05:36] natrium (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[05:37] natrium (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #highaltitude.
[05:41] juxta|console (~juxta@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[05:44] juxta|console (~juxta@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) joined #highaltitude.
[05:51] ms7821 (~Mark@flat.ms) left irc: Disconnected by services
[05:51] ms7821_ (~Mark@flat.ms) joined #highaltitude.
[05:51] rjharrison (~rharrison@62.49.185.11) joined #highaltitude.
[05:58] jasonb (~jasonb@adsl-66-124-73-250.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) joined #highaltitude.
[06:20] Upu (~Upu@ubn.upuaut.net) joined #highaltitude.
[06:51] ContraSF (email@89.180.206.151) left #highaltitude.
[06:52] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[06:57] Upu (~Upu@ubn.upuaut.net) left irc:
[07:00] MoALTz (~no@92.19.16.70) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[07:20] Akiraa (~Akiraaaa@79.112.33.79) joined #highaltitude.
[07:40] jim__ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-njvdxkaevelsrmjn) joined #highaltitude.
[08:03] <rjharrison> moring all
[08:03] <rjharrison> morning
[08:04] <rjharrison> sbasuita you actually up or pretending to be
[08:11] <juxta|console> hey rjharrison
[08:22] jim__ (5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-njvdxkaevelsrmjn) left #highaltitude.
[08:22] jim___ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-vmecjwyojytmkjsa) joined #highaltitude.
[08:23] jim__ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-wpxfpocyshyktzqs) joined #highaltitude.
[08:23] jim__ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-wpxfpocyshyktzqs) left irc: Client Quit
[08:26] natrium (~natrium@CPE000625d867e2-CM0014045885be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[09:30] simon_ (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[09:31] Nick change: simon_ -> Guest1587
[09:32] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[09:33] AlexBreton (~Alexander@client-80-5-40-26.cht-bng-014.adsl.virginmedia.net) joined #highaltitude.
[09:41] junderwood (~John@adsl.jcu.me.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[09:43] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[09:46] <DanielRichman> ping rjharrison
[09:54] skywatch101 (~5f93a515@gateway/web/freenode/x-xhcoqzzobkoafdbe) joined #highaltitude.
[09:55] skywatch101 (~5f93a515@gateway/web/freenode/x-xhcoqzzobkoafdbe) left irc: Client Quit
[09:58] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[09:58] Guest1587 (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[10:10] G3VZV_Graham (~g3vzv@78.32.131.160) joined #highaltitude.
[10:31] <sbasuita> marning
[10:31] <sbasuita> rjharrison: juxta|console
[10:32] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it builds
[10:33] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: kerching
[10:34] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: so git is the one-stop shop now?
[10:34] <DanielRichman> and it looks like my script worked for rjh too
[10:34] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, I don't know if the binary runs
[10:34] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: run it ;P
[10:34] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it executes under wine
[10:34] <DanielRichman> haven't bothered installing on a true windows box
[10:34] <Randomskk> if it works under wine it sure as heck should run under real windows
[10:34] <juxta|console> hey sbasuita
[10:34] <Randomskk> excluding weirdo windows vista/7 oddities
[10:35] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: need to get jcoxon to pull the fixes, then update the tracking guide i uess
[10:35] <DanielRichman> $ mkdir win32_build && wget -O - -q http://github.com/danielrichman/dl-fldigi-windows-build/tarball/master && tar xvzC win32_build && cd win32_build && sudo -v && ./auto
[10:36] <DanielRichman> $ mkdir win32_build && wget -O - -q http://github.com/danielrichman/dl-fldigi-windows-build/tarball/master && tar xvzC win32_build --strip-components=1 && cd win32_build && sudo -v && ./auto
[10:36] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, I made sure that the script downloads specific versions of dependencies so if a new version is released it won't break the script
[10:36] <DanielRichman> (until we update it)
[10:37] <rjharrison> ping DanielRichman 99.999% there
[10:37] <DanielRichman> wait, what
[10:37] <rjharrison> seems to crash when posting to server
[10:37] <DanielRichman> daaaa
[10:38] <rjharrison> I pulled the pthreadsCR2.dll into exe dir
[10:38] <rjharrison> Other than that it seems to work
[10:38] <DanielRichman> I'll see if I can reproduce the problem
[10:38] <rjharrison> Ok
[10:38] <rjharrison> pulls payload info ok
[10:38] <DanielRichman> yes
[10:38] <rjharrison> so not curl per se
[10:38] <DanielRichman> ok where's my wav
[10:39] <rjharrison> daniel can you pm me your mobile
[10:39] <rjharrison> I have AlexBreton and sbasuita
[10:39] <rjharrison> ;s
[10:39] <rjharrison> 's
[10:39] <sbasuita> rjharrison: could you send me yours please
[10:39] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, I thought you had it
[10:40] <sbasuita> *shrug* it's not in my phone
[10:40] <DanielRichman> it's about to try and upload...
[10:41] <DanielRichman> it doesn't crash
[10:41] <DanielRichman> but
[10:41] <DanielRichman> dl_fldigi: (thread 36532064) posting '(null)'
[10:41] <DanielRichman> dl_fldigi: UI status: 'dl_fldigi: sentence uploading...'
[10:41] <DanielRichman> dl_fldigi: (thread 36532064) curl result (0) Success!
[10:41] <DanielRichman> dl_fldigi: UI status: 'dl_fldigi: sentence uploaded!'
[10:42] <DanielRichman> rjharrison, did it crash on a true windows box?
[10:46] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: AlexBreton: i'm thinking we can launch a bit later, like 1300
[10:46] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: why?
[10:47] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: get up later
[10:47] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: lol
[10:47] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: lazy fatty
[10:47] <DanielRichman> AlexBreton, you should have seen that one coming
[10:47] <sbasuita> also all the rain is in the morning
[10:47] <sbasuita> by 1300 its cleared up
[10:47] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: it stops at 6am
[10:47] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: i'm looking at the 08:35 bbc forecast
[10:48] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: look at the one I emailed you
[10:48] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: it's much more detailed
[10:48] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: rain stops at midday :/
[10:48] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: and a small drop in cloud also
[10:48] <AlexBreton> from 100% to 80%
[10:49] <DanielRichman> so the field will be lovely
[10:49] <sbasuita> lol
[10:49] <sbasuita> ok so 1300 launch?
[10:50] <sbasuita> you guys need to be at my house like 8.45 then
[10:50] <sbasuita> leave at 9
[10:50] <sbasuita> bring packed lunches
[10:50] <DanielRichman> nah we'll steal food from you sbasuita
[10:51] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: I can't go to your house
[10:51] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: you're going to have to pick me up :/
[10:51] <sbasuita> hmm ok
[10:51] <sbasuita> i'll get breakfast thenw e'll sort this out
[10:51] juxta|console (~juxta@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[10:51] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: what's the weight of the payload and how many g is our balloon?
[10:52] <DanielRichman> 600g payload 1200g balloon; why?
[10:52] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: apparently the french hams are nearly done on a 'highly sophisticated' balloon predictor
[10:52] <AlexBreton> DanielRichman: any idea how much helium we'll be putting into it?
[10:52] Laurenceb (~laurence@host86-136-234-181.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[10:52] <DanielRichman> AlexBreton, ya we fill until ballast is right
[10:53] <DanielRichman> AlexBreton, I'll get a 2l water bottle and prefill it to the right amount today
[10:53] <AlexBreton> DanielRichman: they wanna know the mass of helium
[10:53] <Randomskk> ascent rate should be sufficient
[10:53] <DanielRichman> AlexBreton, http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/calc/
[10:53] <AlexBreton> DanielRichman: sorry, volume
[10:53] <DanielRichman> AlexBreton, put in our values; target 33k
[10:53] <AlexBreton> DanielRichman: any idea?
[10:53] <DanielRichman> volume lol no idea
[10:54] <Randomskk> one sec
[10:54] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: ask a maths genius like SpeedEvil or Laurenceb
[10:55] <Randomskk> so
[10:55] <Randomskk> 600g payload
[10:55] <Randomskk> 1200g balloon
[10:55] <Randomskk> target burst altitude 33000?
[10:55] <DanielRichman> yes
[10:55] <Randomskk> 3.524 m³
[10:56] <AlexBreton> ty
[10:56] <Randomskk> the calc works this out as an intermediate but doesn't display, you can use a javascript debugger or such to get it though
[10:56] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[10:58] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[10:58] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: ok so if you get to my house at 8.15 then we'll go pick up alex
[11:03] <sbasuita> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/may2010/alien_1_launch.htm
[11:09] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, now you've gone and done it
[11:10] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: lol its the first google result for 'amateur radio news'
[11:11] <DanielRichman> great.
[11:14] <DanielRichman> Where on earth does stdout go on windows gui apps
[11:15] <Randomskk> yay
[11:15] <Randomskk> android 2.1 on my htc hero
[11:15] <DanielRichman> :o
[11:20] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[11:22] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[12:03] fsphil (~phil@2001:470:1f09:483:21f:c6ff:fe44:b25b) joined #highaltitude.
[12:08] <DanielRichman> ok a1 upload is working
[12:10] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: i know where you live mwhahaha ;P
[12:11] <DanielRichman> yeah I forgot that'd happen
[12:13] jim___ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-vmecjwyojytmkjsa) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[12:14] <sbasuita> rjharrison: does a 1300 launch sound good to you?
[12:15] <fsphil> heh, I did the same thing
[12:15] <fsphil> no odd people visiting the house so far
[12:15] <fsphil> well, odder then usual :)
[12:16] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, rjharrison is camping over at ears and has left
[12:16] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, I told him about that earlier and he said it'd be ok; if we choose do to such a late launch he'd prob launch early and return to ears to see the second launch
[12:17] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: cool sounds good
[12:17] <sbasuita> DanielRichman: i'll update the blog with 1300 then
[12:22] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude.
[12:24] jim__ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-gcraeiynyajorfwy) joined #highaltitude.
[12:25] <earthshine> morning
[12:26] <earthshine> any launches today?
[12:27] <fsphil> goood morning .. none today I believe
[12:27] jim__ (5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-gcraeiynyajorfwy) left #highaltitude.
[12:27] jim___ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngfrrcybeljifmsq) joined #highaltitude.
[12:30] j_ (~5000607e@gateway/web/freenode/x-xhxcafxtnojmwncy) joined #highaltitude.
[12:49] Simon-MPFH (~simon@phantom.mpfh.co.uk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[12:49] Simon-MPFH (~simon@81.187.157.12) joined #highaltitude.
[12:49] jcoxon (~jcoxon@92.40.115.125.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[12:51] jcoxon (~jcoxon@92.40.115.125.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) left irc: Client Quit
[12:57] j_ (~5000607e@gateway/web/freenode/x-xhxcafxtnojmwncy) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[13:13] Laurenceb (~laurence@host86-136-234-181.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds
[13:57] <sbasuita> http://www.onlineradio.fr/news-radioamateur/lacher-dun-ballon-radioamateur-a-cambridge-le-2-mai-2010/
[13:57] <sbasuita> wonder if teh french hams will be able to pick it up
[13:57] <fsphil> shouldn't be a problem for them if they've a clear northern horizon
[14:27] G8DSU (~chatzilla@cpc3-mort4-0-0-cust192.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude.
[15:00] ContraSF (email@89.180.137.55) joined #highaltitude.
[15:31] mydfm (~52f3dcb5@gateway/web/freenode/x-okjtdtsydxbtctuy) joined #highaltitude.
[15:32] mydfm (~52f3dcb5@gateway/web/freenode/x-okjtdtsydxbtctuy) left irc: Client Quit
[15:39] <sbasuita> so who's going to be at ears on sunday?
[15:57] <earthshine> I might be there
[15:58] <earthshine> though the weather forecast is for rain all day tomorrow
[16:05] <sbasuita> earthshine: no, the forecast is rain up until noon
[16:05] <sbasuita> earthshine: one of the reasons we pushed back our lauch time a bit ;)
[16:06] <sbasuita> i think rjharrison was planning to launch at 4am... he's going to have fun with the 'thundery showers' ;P
[16:15] juxta (fourtytwo@ppp118-210-231-183.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
[16:41] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[17:00] willrea (~1812694f@gateway/web/freenode/x-olsxspclvudpxofc) joined #highaltitude.
[17:01] Jasperw (~jasperw@78-86-9-131.zone2.bethere.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[17:04] <russss> I just finished my antenna and now it's raining.
[17:05] <sbasuita> russss: so i guess you'll be tracking tomorrow?
[17:05] <sbasuita> is it a moxon?
[17:05] <russss> hopefully, yes
[17:05] <russss> no, it's a quarter-wave ground plane
[17:06] <russss> my main reason for not going for a directional antenna is that I'd have to climb two flights of stairs every time I want to move it
[17:06] <russss> I do have enough bits to make another one though
[17:06] <russss> so I might make a moxon if I'm feeling eager.
[17:10] gb73d (gb73d@80-42-49-94.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) joined #highaltitude.
[17:11] <gb73d> hi, what is the planned launch time for Alien1 tomorrow morning pse ?
[17:11] <sbasuita> gb73d: 1300 bst
[17:11] <gb73d> tyvm - may tune in
[17:11] gb73d (gb73d@80-42-49-94.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) left #highaltitude.
[17:11] <sbasuita> gb73d: cool, have you got dl-fldigi set up?
[17:29] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude.
[17:31] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.demon.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[17:39] willrea (~1812694f@gateway/web/freenode/x-olsxspclvudpxofc) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[17:40] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[17:43] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[17:45] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[17:54] RealPerson (~UserName@41.157.12.3) joined #highaltitude.
[17:55] <RealPerson> Last time I was here I was told I better take a vest along if I wanted t launch myself with a balloon.
[17:55] <RealPerson> And that I might qualify for the darwin award. For those of you who know that one.
[17:56] <RealPerson> ...
[17:57] <RealPerson> You know, contributing to the gene pool by removing yourself from it ?
[17:57] <RealPerson> lol
[17:57] <SpeedEvil> I recall that it was mentioned that the last person trying it had won one.
[18:02] <RealPerson> In the man time I came across something of interest, let me show you:
[18:04] <RealPerson> And having said this, while they were looking on, He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight.
[18:04] <RealPerson> (Acts 1:9, TS1998)
[18:05] <RealPerson> And as they were gazing into the heaven as He went up, see, two men stood by them dressed in white,
[18:05] <RealPerson> (Acts 1:10, TS1998)
[18:05] <RealPerson> Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
[18:05] <RealPerson> (Acts 1:11, KJV)
[18:05] <RealPerson> ---------------------------------
[18:06] <RealPerson> This man did not wear a vest, and its implied he went way past the altitude of balloons.
[18:06] <RealPerson> Or did he ? Well, further reading shows that he is apparently immortal.
[18:07] <RealPerson> Thus excluding the need for a vest.
[18:07] <RealPerson> This puts me back.
[18:07] <RealPerson> Cuz i'm not immortal.
[18:07] <RealPerson> I still need a vest right ?
[18:07] <RealPerson> Its cold up there ?
[18:10] <RealPerson> sour faces.
[18:10] Action: RealPerson puts on some music.
[18:10] <RealPerson> :)
[18:11] <earthshine> So what is the plan for those meeting up tomorrow?
[18:12] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) joined #highaltitude.
[18:13] Action: RealPerson blinks
[18:15] JamesLeeds (~chatzilla@5ac30595.bb.sky.com) joined #highaltitude.
[18:16] <RealPerson> scumpff scumpff scumpf hey some music
[18:18] <RealPerson> Enough of sour faces.
[18:18] <RealPerson> Shalom ( that be peace in Hebrew )
[18:18] <RealPerson> *waves*
[18:18] <RealPerson> bye.
[18:19] RealPerson (UserName@41.157.12.3) left #highaltitude ("Leaving").
[18:29] Action: LazyLeopard guesses half the folk are already at EARS camping, and havn't checked in here in a while? Hope it doesn't rain on them...
[18:40] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: DanielRichman got a 400mm lens and some film
[18:41] <AlexBreton> looked like a total idiot in morrison's
[18:41] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: rly
[18:41] <AlexBreton> I had a packet of film and a box of tic tacs on the conveyor
[18:41] <sbasuita> k
[18:41] <AlexBreton> one of those 'what I really need right now is...' shopping trips
[18:43] Action: SpeedEvil is slightly surprised you can still buy film in morrisons.
[18:45] <AlexBreton> SpeedEvil: Only 2 types there, one of the assistants actually told me they didn't have any
[18:46] <SpeedEvil> ah
[18:46] <AlexBreton> SpeedEvil: second assistant pointed me to the relevant section
[18:46] <AlexBreton> SpeedEvil: they also develop it there
[19:01] edmoore (~ed@pluto.trinhall.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[19:02] <sbasuita> evening edmoore
[19:02] <edmoore> hi
[19:02] <edmoore> everything good for tomorrow?
[19:02] <edmoore> I might pop along for half an hour or so just as a break from work :)
[19:03] <sbasuita> that would be awesome
[19:03] <sbasuita> yeah we're good to go
[19:03] <edmoore> what time are you planning on launch?
[19:03] <sbasuita> edmoore: 1300 BST
[19:03] <edmoore> cool
[19:05] <LazyLeopard> Is Icarus still launching around 09:00?
[19:05] <edmoore> will have an early lunch and pop over to say hi
[19:05] <LazyLeopard> (Err... 10:00BST?)
[19:06] <LazyLeopard> ...or is it launching same time as Alien1?
[19:06] <sbasuita> LazyLeopard: last i heard rjharrison was going for a dawn launch, but that seems unlikely to me given the heavy rain
[19:06] <edmoore> rob seems to be on a bit of a launch mission
[19:09] DanielRichman (DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left #highaltitude ("Leaving").
[19:10] <LazyLeopard> Really dawn, or just somewhat earlier than you? ( Sunrise is at about 0530BST tomorrow.)
[19:10] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[19:10] <edmoore> we keep getting people follow us on twitter, despite having never tweeted a single thing. I don't understand this newfangled social web thing
[19:10] Nick change: Tygrys^ -> Tiger^
[19:10] <AlexBreton> edmoore: quite
[19:11] <edmoore> well, good luck for tomorrow chaps. the first launch is always a special one
[19:13] <AlexBreton> great comments on the french ham site
[19:13] <AlexBreton> concerning our launch
[19:13] <edmoore> jambons
[19:13] <AlexBreton> 'is this just a mode of transport'
[19:13] <AlexBreton> 'no, it's for carrying something: a payload'
[19:14] <AlexBreton> 'yeah, I bought a bike and I'm its payload'
[19:27] Jasperw (~jasperw@78-86-9-131.zone2.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving.
[19:40] GeekShadow (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[19:43] <sbasuita> AlexBreton: are you serious about those comments? :P
[19:48] chembrow (~chatzilla@188-221-15-153.zone12.bethere.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[19:54] <AlexBreton> sbasuita: ya sure
[19:58] bob__ (~5773c21a@gateway/web/freenode/x-pdzddommczzxqhcz) joined #highaltitude.
[19:59] bob__ (~5773c21a@gateway/web/freenode/x-pdzddommczzxqhcz) left irc: Client Quit
[19:59] jerry_ (~5773c21a@gateway/web/freenode/x-khpbvtvkxnrkgxva) joined #highaltitude.
[20:00] jerry_ (~5773c21a@gateway/web/freenode/x-khpbvtvkxnrkgxva) left irc: Client Quit
[20:09] G8DSU_ (~chatzilla@cpc3-mort4-0-0-cust192.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) joined #highaltitude.
[20:13] G8DSU (~chatzilla@cpc3-mort4-0-0-cust192.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
[20:13] Nick change: G8DSU_ -> G8DSU
[20:24] chembrow (~chatzilla@188-221-15-153.zone12.bethere.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401074458]
[20:26] jim___ (~5244226e@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngfrrcybeljifmsq) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[20:29] skywatch101 (~55d2a5ec@gateway/web/freenode/x-nzvqnyshxxukwgbh) joined #highaltitude.
[20:30] skywatch101 (~55d2a5ec@gateway/web/freenode/x-nzvqnyshxxukwgbh) left irc: Client Quit
[20:39] adwiens (~adwiens@resnet-pat25.nts.wustl.edu) joined #highaltitude.
[20:45] AlexBreton (~Alexander@client-80-5-40-26.cht-bng-014.adsl.virginmedia.net) left irc: Quit: AlexBreton
[20:48] edmoore (~ed@pluto.trinhall.cam.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: edmoore
[20:49] edmoore (~ed@pluto.trinhall.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[21:20] <earthshine> evening
[21:21] <fsphil> howdy
[21:22] <fsphil> DanielRichman, is that windows build you uploaded working?
[21:22] <DanielRichman> fsphil, I'm uploading a new one now
[21:22] <DanielRichman> forgot to link with portaudio
[21:22] <DanielRichman> but it appears to work
[21:22] <fsphil> cool
[21:22] <DanielRichman> RJH claimed a crash earlier but I couldn't reproduce it
[21:22] <DanielRichman> as soon as the compile finishes i'll report back
[21:22] <fsphil> I'll give it a whirl on my laptop, it was xp on it somewhere
[21:22] <DanielRichman> (and upload the new build)
[21:23] <fsphil> was=has
[21:23] <DanielRichman> ah good an xp test; borrowed a vistabox here
[21:25] <fsphil> off topic -- can anyone recommend a decent laptop, one without a glossy screen?
[21:25] <DanielRichman> decent... laptop...?
[21:26] <fsphil> one that has idealy been tested with linux
[21:26] <fsphil> yea, I need a good one -- my eeepc has too tiny a keyboard
[21:26] <fsphil> good as in, decent cpu and memory
[21:26] <fsphil> and battery
[21:30] <fsphil> prefer decent battery over cpu to be honest - I get 30 minutes on the eeepc :/
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> I love my x60s
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> It is not however new.
[21:30] <fsphil> still nice though
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> yes
[21:30] <SpeedEvil> very
[21:30] <fsphil> and 4:3 -- still like the old skool screens
[21:30] Simon-MPFH (~simon@81.187.157.12) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> yes
[21:32] <fsphil> I've a very old thinkpad, T21 I think. really nice laptop but horribly slow by todays standards
[21:32] <fsphil> fantastic battery life even now
[21:32] <SpeedEvil> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IBM-LAPTOP-X60S-LENOVO-1-6GHZ-60GB-1GIG-WWAN-1-6-L2400-/290429855780?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item439ef7e824
[21:32] <SpeedEvil> for example
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> well - that one is rather broken
[21:34] <fsphil> yea
[21:34] <fsphil> but still, that's pretty close to the model I'm after
[21:35] <SpeedEvil> My only issue is - I'd really have liked a 1536*1152 screen.
[21:35] <SpeedEvil> But...
[21:37] <SpeedEvil> Currently awaiting for a set of screws - I need to replace the bottom half on mine - after I dropped it
[21:37] Snomi (snomi@unaffiliated/snomi) joined #highaltitude.
[21:37] <Snomi> sup
[21:38] Action: SpeedEvil goes to sleep. If I'm not up tomorrow, good luck!
[21:38] <DanielRichman> :)
[21:39] <Snomi> you will need it
[21:39] <Snomi> hehehe
[21:40] <Snomi> i will help your cause by lending a sat navk
[21:40] <Snomi> k?
[21:40] <Snomi> DanielRichman: ^
[21:43] Nick change: sbasuita -> alexbreton
[21:44] <Snomi> ^wat
[21:44] <DanielRichman> Snomi, tbf I've already got 3 gps units on my desk
[21:44] <DanielRichman> and alexbreton is bringing/brought one
[21:44] <Snomi> yaya im joking
[21:44] <alexbreton> Snomi: we already have bare satnavs
[21:45] Nick change: Snomi -> Alex_Breton
[21:46] <fsphil> so there are two launches tomorrow at ears?
[21:46] Nick change: Alex_Breton -> Snomi
[21:47] <DanielRichman> fsphil, yes
[21:48] <fsphil> are you guys going first?
[21:48] <DanielRichman> no
[21:49] <DanielRichman> rjh has camped over and depending on whether he feels like waking early he either will launch very early, and return to see our launch having found it, or launch simultaneously
[21:49] <fsphil> simultaneous launch sounds interesting
[21:49] <fsphil> though splits up the tracking coverage
[21:49] <DanielRichman> very different weights though so no racing
[21:56] werhamster (~4e916437@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngesevvovczyiqcf) joined #highaltitude.
[22:01] <DanielRichman> dl-fldigi~2 build complete ( fsphil ); great success. Now testing on laptop & uploading
[22:03] <fsphil> great work, will try it here as soon as it's up
[22:04] jcoxon (~jcoxon@92.40.186.98.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[22:04] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, you missed that message by a second:
[22:04] <DanielRichman> <DanielRichman> dl-fldigi~2 build complete ( fsphil ); great success. Now testing on laptop & uploading
[22:04] <jcoxon> oh great work
[22:04] <fsphil> hehe
[22:05] <jcoxon> lets upgrade the revision number in the code
[22:05] <jcoxon> probably best to do a sort of beta test before rolling it out
[22:05] Laurenceb (~laurence@host86-136-234-181.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[22:05] <fsphil> downloading
[22:05] <jcoxon> keep everyone else on the r8x version
[22:06] <LazyLeopard> Any hints what rjh might mean by "early" ?
[22:06] <LazyLeopard> (...and does he want other folks tracking?)
[22:07] <jcoxon> he'll like tracking
[22:07] <jcoxon> and when he says early he often means early
[22:08] <LazyLeopard> like 5am early?
[22:08] <DanielRichman> ok I'm now attempting to use that binary I just compiled to upload a1 strings
[22:08] <LazyLeopard> ...or something slightly more civilised?
[22:09] <fsphil> nothing before 9am is civilised
[22:09] <DanielRichman> and they're coming through nicely
[22:09] <fsphil> or maybe it's just me who's not civilised before 9am
[22:09] <DanielRichman> great success!
[22:25] werhamster (~4e916437@gateway/web/freenode/x-ngesevvovczyiqcf) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[22:33] SpeedEvil (1000@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[22:37] Nick change: JamesLeeds -> SomeJoker
[22:37] Nick change: SomeJoker -> JamesLeeds
[22:48] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude.
[22:52] jcoxon (~jcoxon@92.40.186.98.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[22:56] <fsphil> ack, my win-xp laptop has 12k free
[22:59] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[22:59] <earthshine> so what's happening tomorrow?
[22:59] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[23:00] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[23:00] DanielRichman (~DanielRic@unaffiliated/danielrichman) joined #highaltitude.
[23:16] b3cft (~abrock@host86-184-47-115.range86-184.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[23:16] N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) joined #highaltitude.
[23:19] <LazyLeopard> I gather RJH may launch "early" while the ALIEN-1 team plan to meet at EARS at 11am and launch at 1pm or therabouts. I'm not clear what "early" might mean. The topic says ~9am, but I also heard "dawn" mentioned in the same context, and that's be 0530BST(ish)...
[23:22] G3VZV_Graham (~g3vzv@78.32.131.160) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[23:24] <fsphil> that's horribly early
[23:25] <fsphil> I was about to say but it would take a few hours to prepare, but I'd imagine he's pretty quick at that now
[23:25] adwiens (~adwiens@resnet-pat25.nts.wustl.edu) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[23:25] <earthshine> well there is no way i'm getting up at dawn on a Sunday
[23:26] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[23:26] <Randomskk> I heard dawn in the context of "dawn at 30k"
[23:26] <Randomskk> which would imply a pre-dawn launch
[23:27] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm...
[23:28] Nick change: alexbreton -> sbasuita
[23:29] <LazyLeopard> Could be launching any time from 0300 then???
[23:30] <edmoore> woo dawn launch
[23:30] <edmoore> i was completely knackered after our last dawn launch
[23:30] <LazyLeopard> evil rumours...
[23:31] <edmoore> i drove over 700 miles in 20 hours
[23:31] adwiens (~adwiens@pat7.wufi.wustl.edu) joined #highaltitude.
[23:31] <earthshine> eek
[23:31] <edmoore> i was working in oxford at the time
[23:31] <edmoore> left work at 5pm, drove from ox to cambridge, drove from cambridge to ipswich to get a balloon from stsve, back to cambridge, then we did the launch, then tracked the balloon to about manchester pretty much
[23:32] <edmoore> found it at 9am
[23:32] <edmoore> drove everyone back to cambridge
[23:32] <edmoore> then drove back to oxford to get into the office for about an hour
[23:32] <edmoore> supposedly eyes were bloodshot, though I have no recollection
[23:34] <edmoore> *but*: http://www.nivnac.co.uk/files/HAPSD_NOVA8/HAPS-D_pan1_quarter.jpg
[23:36] <earthshine> the sun reflected off the sea shots are spectacular
[23:37] <edmoore> yeah. earth is at its prettiest at dawn
[23:42] <sbasuita> do we need latex gloves for handling the balloon?
[23:42] <edmoore> nope
[23:42] <edmoore> just make sure you're not wearing anything sharp, like watches or zips
[23:43] <edmoore> the ground conditions tomorrow are not great either
[23:43] <sbasuita> mmm
[23:43] <edmoore> ok, I'll try and be there for launch and give you a hand if you need it. Inflation in windy rain is not for the faint hearted :)
[23:43] <edmoore> 1300 BST?
[23:43] <sbasuita> edmoore: yep, love to see you there :)
[23:44] <edmoore> I'll be there at 12:45
[23:44] <edmoore> and you've done all your sums on neck lift etc?
[23:44] <sbasuita> edmoore: um, we'll write down the stats from the online calc that Randomskk did
[23:45] <edmoore> ok cool
[23:45] <edmoore> I'll double check them, but I'm sure they'll be fine
[23:45] <sbasuita> Burst Altitude: 33000 m Ascent Rate: 6.5 m/s
[23:45] <sbasuita> Time to Burst: 85 min Neck Lift: 2417 g
[23:45] <edmoore> the most useful thing is to have a ballast mas (a plastic bag with stuff in) that is the correct neutral lift
[23:45] <edmoore> if you have scales, bring some
[23:46] SpeedEvil (~user@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[23:46] <edmoore> our's were unavilable last launch I did with scotty so we had to guess, and somewhere along the way one of the numbers was wrong, meaning we had an aborted first launch
[23:47] junderwood (~John@adsl.jcu.me.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[23:47] <edmoore> right, I'mm going to get some sleep. see you chaps tomorrow
[23:47] N900evil (~Speedevil@tor/regular/SpeedEvil) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds
[23:48] <edmoore> the M11 exit from clockwise M25 was shocking last time I drove it too, btw :p
[23:48] <sbasuita> edmoore: when was that?
[23:48] <edmoore> jan
[23:48] <edmoore> lots of traffic works
[23:49] <edmoore> see you
[23:49] edmoore (~ed@pluto.trinhall.cam.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: Bye
[23:50] Jasperw (~jasperw@92.40.133.203.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[23:56] Laurenceb (~laurence@host86-136-234-181.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 276 seconds
[00:00] --- Sun May 2 2010