highaltitude.log.20100409

[00:07] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: LIS352AX
[00:07] <Laurenceb> best I could find
[00:10] <SpeedEvil> hmm
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[00:33] <Laurenceb> bbl
[00:33] <Laurenceb> or tomorrow even
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[08:22] <jcoxon> morning
[08:41] <earthshine> morning
[08:43] <jcoxon> hey earthshine
[08:43] <jcoxon> hows the payload?
[08:45] <earthshine> getting there
[08:45] <earthshine> I just wish I had some more spare time
[08:45] <earthshine> but I am determined to have it all rady to fly by 1st May
[08:45] <earthshine> *ready
[08:49] <jcoxon> :-D
[08:50] <jcoxon> going to get my atlas flight computer up and running today
[08:50] <jcoxon> had to run u-center in wine on my mac to change the gps mode to airborne 4g
[08:51] <jcoxon> seems to have worked
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[09:08] <jcoxon> seems like the pbh guys are gearing up for another launch
[09:08] <jcoxon> well 2 launches
[09:08] <jcoxon> but not before the 15th April
[09:09] <earthshine> cool
[09:10] <jcoxon> will bbl
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[10:26] <Futurity> Yippee my FT-790R has just been delivered :)
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> l(
[10:32] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[10:36] <earthshine> Cool
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[10:37] <jcoxon> morning rharrison
[10:38] <rharrison> Hey jcoxon
[10:38] <rharrison> Hows it going
[10:38] <rharrison> I love xchat lots better than micr
[10:38] <rharrison> mirc
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[10:45] <SpeedEvil_> xchat is good.
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[10:46] <SpeedEvil_> I just wish the inputbox sizE was tweakable down in maemo.
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[11:16] <jcoxon> when i move down to worthing this summer , i'm going to get a mini-itx fanless motherboard and run globaltuners on it :-p
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[12:58] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:58] <Laurenceb> how many PBH-109 emails :P
[13:01] <jcoxon> hehe, thought you'd like to be in hte loop
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[14:23] <rharrison> Any one care to comment on which logo they like best my favorite is the first one at the top of the page http://www.robertharrison.org/svn/filedetails.php?repname=the-icarus-project&path=%2Flogo%2Flogo.pdf
[14:25] <Randomskk> the trick with asking people's opinions on which they like best is not biasing them before they've even seen any of them :P
[14:27] <Randomskk> but yes, I probably agree with you
[14:27] <ms7821> feels vaguely goatse
[14:27] <Randomskk> shh
[14:27] <ms7821> ditto #3
[14:28] <Randomskk> 3 is worse
[14:28] <Randomskk> in terms of similarity to goatse
[14:34] <earthshine> No. 1
[14:34] <earthshine> clean and simple yet effective
[14:35] <Randomskk> but does look a bit like goatse
[14:35] <earthshine> that's just your warped mind
[14:36] <earthshine> The others are too 'busy'
[14:37] <ms7821> the wings effect is nice, too
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> I'm sure I've seen the first logo somewhere.
[14:51] <rharrison> hehe I just wanted to linfluence the result
[14:52] <rharrison> I'm not much good at remembering things but is it like the logo on the incredibles when they get on that rocket
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> http://www.propulsivewing.com/
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> funky
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> fan in wing
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> Enabling flow to be continuous at extreme AOA on thick aerofoils
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[14:59] <earthshine> that's nice
[14:59] <rharrison> SpeedEvil, nice
[15:00] <SpeedEvil_> now that is a sane patent.
[15:00] <SpeedEvil_> truly novel idea.
[15:00] <earthshine> i like the model in the video
[15:01] <earthshine> Might make a nice aerial photography platform
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[15:39] Action: jcoxon is having a good read of the UTARC archived wiki
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[15:55] <rharrison> jcoxon, is not revising then :-p
[15:56] <jcoxon> yeah
[15:56] <jcoxon> oops
[15:56] <jcoxon> :-p
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[18:36] <Futurity> Hi, I've just received my ft-790R
[18:37] <Randomskk> nice nice
[18:37] <Futurity> bit confused by all the knobs and switches ;)
[18:37] <Futurity> time to read the manual ;)
[18:37] <Randomskk> learn the frequency one and the button to swap mode and you're nearly there :P
[18:37] <Randomskk> volume is another good one
[18:37] <Futurity> i don't suppose anyone knows of any beacons i could try and tune into to test its working
[18:37] <Futurity> in the Cambridge area
[18:38] <Futurity> worked out vol and squelch
[18:38] <Futurity> the middle button select frequency
[18:38] <Futurity> button to the left the mode
[18:39] <jonsowman> there's the cambridge repeater group?
[18:39] <jonsowman> what antennas do you have (if any)?
[18:39] <Futurity> this is just a simple whip aerial that it comes with
[18:39] <jonsowman> for what frequency?
[18:39] <Futurity> uhf i think
[18:40] <Futurity> 70cm
[18:40] <jonsowman> there's a repeater on about 434.200 iirc
[18:40] <Randomskk> perfect
[18:40] <Randomskk> yea
[18:40] <Randomskk> hit up gb3py
[18:40] <Futurity> the band used for most launches in the uk
[18:40] <Randomskk> do you have a radio license
[18:40] <jonsowman> Futurity: yeh thats 70cms
[18:40] <Futurity> i have a foundation licence yes
[18:40] <Randomskk> that's fine
[18:40] <Randomskk> the issue with the repeater is working out how to tell the radio to transmit on one frequency and listen on the other
[18:41] <Futurity> i also have an old FM vhf/uhf rig that i used after getting my foundation licence a while back
[18:41] <Randomskk> anyway a repeater near you is GB3PY, it transmits on 433.20 and listens on 434.80
[18:41] <Futurity> cool
[18:41] <Randomskk> you could just use that rig, if it works
[18:41] <Randomskk> be easier
[18:41] <Futurity> i think the rig upstairs is far newer
[18:41] <Futurity> far easier to instantly understand
[18:41] <Randomskk> just be all
[18:42] <Randomskk> 'callsign testing, testing, over'
[18:42] <Futurity> i'm sure i'll figure this out in a short while
[18:42] <Randomskk> jonsowman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY
[18:42] <Futurity> i seem to have pressed the M button and not i can't select a new frequency. That'll teach me to fiddle ;)
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[18:43] <jonsowman> Randomskk: want
[18:43] <Randomskk> keep watching
[18:43] <Randomskk> it is the most incredible thing by the end
[18:44] <jonsowman> amazing
[18:44] <jonsowman> so much wasted ali though
[18:44] <Randomskk> easy to collect the scraps and melt them though
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[18:45] <jonsowman> ytur
[18:45] <jonsowman> true
[18:45] <Futurity> nice robot arm
[18:45] <jonsowman> typing fail
[18:52] <Randomskk> Futurity: any luck?
[18:53] <Randomskk> jonsowman: have you seen the questions on the paper 3 that we don't do? it's got shit like memorising how many clock cycles various 6800 instructions take
[18:53] <jonsowman> yer i know
[18:53] <Randomskk> D:
[18:53] <jonsowman> that's going to be a laugh
[18:53] <Randomskk> yea quite
[18:53] <jonsowman> wonder whats in the databook
[18:53] <Randomskk> oh true
[18:53] <Randomskk> I bet it's there
[18:54] <Randomskk> it's also such simple asm
[18:54] <jonsowman> hope so
[18:54] <jonsowman> there's no reason for memorising such crap
[18:54] <jonsowman> it's not useful
[18:55] <Randomskk> grr it doesn't hav eit
[18:55] <Randomskk> just PIC
[18:55] <SpeedEvil> jonsowman: it is actually
[18:55] <jonsowman> bugger
[18:55] <jonsowman> SpeedEvil: oh? how so?
[18:56] <Randomskk> SpeedEvil: in this case the question is how useful memorising the clock cycles something like STAA takes on a 6800
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> jonsowman: it gives you a solid grounding in the fact that instructions take different times - something which is the same today on many processors.
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> I question actual memorisation.
[18:56] <Randomskk> the theory is useful, but I don't see that there's point memorising it vs having it in the databook
[18:56] <jonsowman> SpeedEvil: yeh point taken, but actually memorising the number of cycles?
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> but - learning about that is somewhat important for low-level work
[18:56] <jonsowman> fair enough
[18:56] <Randomskk> still it's only like three or four different instructions by the looks of things
[18:56] <SpeedEvil> where cycle counting code can be a valuable skill.
[18:57] <jonsowman> Randomskk: ah good
[18:57] <Randomskk> I hope we actually do some useful work though
[18:57] <jonsowman> that''s not too bad then
[18:57] <Randomskk> at the moment everything we do is really pointless
[18:57] <SpeedEvil> it's typical that there are only several classes of instruction
[18:57] <SpeedEvil> so all load from RAM might take 12 cycles - say.
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[19:25] <rjharrison> Humm not quite launch weather this w/e
[19:25] <rjharrison> Well may be on 35k launch
[19:26] <Randomskk> I should really work on a new predictor interface
[19:26] <Randomskk> exams :(
[19:26] <Randomskk> might see if I can get something working though
[19:26] <Randomskk> at the least use the new predictor software and cached grib, be loads faster
[19:37] Action: SpeedEvil lols at the above website on reading the technical details. 'Propulsive Wing also has in-house Star-CCM+ CFD analysis software and an 8-processor parallel computer. '
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[20:06] <SpeedEvil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY&feature=player_embedded machine porn!
[20:06] <SpeedEvil> (worksafe)
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[20:07] <Randomskk> -1 old 17:42:24 <Randomskk> jonsowman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY :P
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> oh
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> :)
[20:07] <Randomskk> it is incredible
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[20:08] <Randomskk> though I suspect that whole helmet took an awful lot of time
[20:08] <Randomskk> it's so, so detailed
[20:08] <Randomskk> even has a surface finish etc
[20:08] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[20:09] <SpeedEvil> however - with the right cutter sizes and shapes, you can get 'ok' finish remarkably fast
[20:09] <SpeedEvil> Especially if you add a wire brush :)
[20:09] <fsphil> nice price tag I bet
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[20:10] <Randomskk> it's crazy that it could go from a block of solid aluminium to something as detailed and intricate and finished as that helment though
[20:11] <SpeedEvil> and moderately thinwall
[20:12] <SpeedEvil> 3.8Kg = ~1l of Al
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[20:24] <SpeedEvil_> I make it around 8mm
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