highaltitude.log.20100404

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[00:13] <natrium_> hi juxta_
[00:13] <juxta_> morning natrium_ :)
[00:13] <natrium_> sup?
[00:14] <juxta_> not a whole lot, just got back in town
[00:15] <juxta_> having a bit of a lie in thanks to daylight savings time changing :)
[00:16] <natrium_> hehe
[00:17] <juxta_> whats happening in Canada today?
[00:20] <natrium_> weather was quite nice the last few days, over 20C
[00:20] <natrium_> went biking
[00:21] <juxta_> road or mountain?
[00:22] <natrium_> road with a mountain bike :P
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[00:43] <earthshine_> yo
[00:44] <juxta_> hey earthshine
[00:45] <earthshine_> hey
[00:47] <juxta_> how's the payload coming along?
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[00:58] <earthshine_> ok thanks
[00:58] <earthshine_> working on the GPS parsing code
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[01:00] <ProjectCirrus> high all, just need a quick confirmation.... all the balloon calculators are for pure helium and not balloon gas.... yes?
[01:01] <ProjectCirrus> i.e balloon gas is not suitable for HAB
[01:01] <ProjectCirrus> ?
[01:07] <earthshine_> balloon gas??
[01:07] <ProjectCirrus> yup
[01:07] <ProjectCirrus> what party balloons are usually filled with
[01:07] <earthshine_> oh you mean helium
[01:07] <ProjectCirrus> well no
[01:08] <ProjectCirrus> theres a difference between helium and balloon gas
[01:08] <earthshine_> no there isn't
[01:08] <ProjectCirrus> balloon gas is cheap helium with other bits in
[01:08] <earthshine_> "balloon gas" is helium
[01:08] <ProjectCirrus> i mean retail "balloon gas"
[01:10] <ProjectCirrus> http://www.bocsds.com/uk/sds/industrial/balloon_gas.pdf
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[01:12] <ProjectCirrus> what does the cambridge launch site use?
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[01:17] <earthshine_> helium
[01:19] <ProjectCirrus> i'm just worried about getting the wrong thing
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[01:28] <ProjectCirrus> this is what had me worried http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/lift.html
[01:28] <ProjectCirrus> A number of smaller cylinders are available, including light weight, low pressure aluminum "party" cylinders. These are much safer to transport and use, but hold much less helium. These are sometimes even filled with a mixed gas called "balloon gas" that has some air in it, reducing lift vs pure helium.
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[07:31] <jcoxon> morning
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[07:53] <juxta> does anybody have a TV tuner/the ability to stream a BBC station over the net? :)
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[10:41] <MikeMc68_mobile> morning
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[10:45] <earthshine_> morning
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[11:18] <Laurenceb> hi all
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[11:23] <jonsowman> morning alll
[11:23] <jonsowman> with 3 'l's
[11:23] <jcoxon> morning Laurenceb and jonsowman
[11:39] <rjharrison_> hi jcoxon
[11:39] <rjharrison_> and every one else
[11:40] <jcoxon> hey rjharrison
[11:40] <jcoxon> lots of progress with dl-fldigi
[11:40] <rjharrison_> yep so I see
[11:41] <jcoxon> its now usuable in --hab mode
[11:41] <rjharrison_> Can't wait to het home and have a play
[11:41] <rjharrison_> I'll compile up the windows stuff too
[11:42] <rjharrison_> I have got to do a biut of tidying up
[11:42] <rjharrison_> bbiab
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[11:47] <jcoxon> bbl
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[12:19] <earthshine_> Happy Easter everyone
[12:19] <jonsowman> earthshine_: you too :)
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[12:37] <fsphil> woo, chocolate day ;)
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[12:50] <earthshine_> :D
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[13:21] Action: SpeedEvil has been celebrating by moving heavy stuff.
[13:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/4488940691/
[13:22] <earthshine_> nice day
[13:22] <SpeedEvil> sort-of
[13:22] <SpeedEvil> it's unsure if it wants to be sunny, windy, or it's intimating rain.
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[14:34] <Rjharrison_> Hi all
[14:35] <Rjharrison_> On the iPhone ATM
[14:36] <Rjharrison_> Apple needs to get multitasking sorted out on th ihardware
[14:36] <Rjharrison_> Perhaps
[14:36] <Rjharrison_> Oops
[14:37] <Rjharrison_> Android is a whole lot better on that front
[14:37] <Rjharrison_> Anyone got an android phone
[14:38] <Rjharrison_> I'm going to have a quick read which means I'll get booted off here
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[14:42] <Rjharrison_> Android looks cool
[14:43] <Rjharrison_> Perhaps we could make a client that works on android that would be cool
[14:43] <Rjharrison_> Ft-817nd + android phone
[14:43] Action: SpeedEvil has n900.
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> very nice. :)
[14:44] <Rjharrison_> You pleased with it?
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> fldigi runs
[14:44] <Rjharrison_> I think they are.
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> though I haven't really tried anything.
[14:44] <Rjharrison_> A whole lot more open than the iPhones
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> yes
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> there are closed elements
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> but...
[14:45] <Rjharrison_> There is a sdk for the android too
[14:45] <Rjharrison_> Ooh what's closed?
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> some UI stuff
[14:46] <Rjharrison_> Tttt decoding would be cool
[14:46] <SpeedEvil> some userspace drivers
[14:46] <SpeedEvil> You should be able to just do it with fldigi and a mic cable with the n900
[14:46] <SpeedEvil> is the ft-* serial?
[14:48] <Rjharrison_> No
[14:48] <Rjharrison_> Nice link btw
[14:48] <earthshine_> i have an android phone
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> Work is ongoing on reverse engineering many of the closed bits
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption#Some_preliminary_numbers_using_bq27200.
[14:49] <Rjharrison_> Cool
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> been working on today
[14:50] <Rjharrison_> I'm suffering this weekend with exhaustion or some virus
[14:50] <SpeedEvil> 7.5mA for a ssh-innable - over 3G or wlan - device is silly.
[14:50] <Rjharrison_> Been in bed for the last two days
[14:50] Action: SpeedEvil has finally finished the lawn.
[14:50] <SpeedEvil> :/
[14:51] <Rjharrison_> Cool speedevil
[14:51] <Rjharrison_> Sun has come out here in the lakes
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> It's doing that unsure if it's going to be sunny or threaten rain here thing
[14:52] <Rjharrison_> Bit embarrasing as were at friends for the Easter w/e
[14:52] <SpeedEvil> :/
[14:53] <Rjharrison_> But hay ho, hehe that came out a gay ho
[14:54] <Rjharrison_> iPhone is not much good as a client but it's better than nothing
[14:54] <Rjharrison_> No tab name completion
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> xchat is nice.
[14:55] <Rjharrison_> Ooh xchat for the iPhone?
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> no
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> n900
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[14:55] <SpeedEvil> no iphone
[14:55] <Rjharrison_> Hehe oh for a real phone
[14:56] <Rjharrison_> Right i'm going to get a bit more sleep
[14:56] <SpeedEvil_> night
[14:56] <SpeedEvil_> :)
[14:56] <Rjharrison_> Bbiab
[14:56] <fsphil> be good rjharrison
[14:56] <SpeedEvil_> holpe better in morn.
[14:56] <Rjharrison_> Thanks Iain
[14:57] <Rjharrison_> Layers fsphil
[14:57] <Rjharrison_> Laters
[14:57] <fsphil> I've many layers ;)
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[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[15:13] <SpeedEvil> hlo
[15:14] <Lunar_Lander> everything OK?
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> yes
[15:15] <Lunar_Lander> same here
[15:15] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/4489177247/ - slightly exhausted - but finished damned lawn
[15:16] <fsphil> looking good
[15:16] <Lunar_Lander> now it only needs to grow
[15:17] <SpeedEvil> yeah - http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/4450763375/
[15:17] <SpeedEvil> before
[15:17] <Lunar_Lander> you should have sent up some of the seeds on a flight
[15:17] <Lunar_Lander> maybe they would have given blue grass or so :P
[15:17] <fsphil> a bit of cosmic radiation would do wonders for a garden :)
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[15:59] <jonsowman> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~cuspaceflight/hourly-predictions
[15:59] <jonsowman> hmm getting better
[15:59] <jonsowman> some are landing very near cam
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[17:50] <Lunar_Lander> hello jonsowman and Happy easter to all
[17:58] <jonsowman> Lunar_Lander: same to you :)
[17:58] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[17:58] <jonsowman> rjharrison: ping
[17:58] <Lunar_Lander> it's so silent :P
[17:59] <jonsowman> it is rather quiet isnt it
[17:59] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[18:19] <Lunar_Lander> bbl
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[18:39] <natrium42> DanielRichman_, so, launching this weekend?
[18:39] <sbasuita> natrium42, no, alex is on holiday
[18:39] <natrium42> oh please....
[18:39] <sbasuita> yeah i know, what a joke
[18:40] <DanielRichman_> natrium42: kill me now
[18:40] <natrium42> *cough*vapourware*cough*
[18:40] <Randomskk> haha wow lookit that weather
[18:40] <DanielRichman_> natrium42: Can I swap the large poking stick for a low earth orbit laser?
[18:40] <natrium42> haha
[18:40] <Randomskk> hahaha wow
[18:40] <Randomskk> it's so perfect
[18:40] <Randomskk> look how close to cambridge it lands on sunday
[18:41] <natrium42> yeah
[18:41] <natrium42> rjharrison, are you launching?
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[19:09] <jcoxon> evening
[19:10] <natrium42> hi jcoxon
[19:11] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[19:11] <jcoxon> hows it going?
[19:11] <natrium42> thank you for the nice jetstream :D
[19:11] <natrium42> good
[19:11] <natrium42> and you?
[19:11] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:11] <jcoxon> yeah
[19:12] <jcoxon> absolutely beautiful evening here
[19:12] <natrium42> :)
[19:13] <jcoxon> i'd like to launch next weekend but have an event to go to on sat evening - not really suitable for a long duration flight :-p
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[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> back again
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[19:53] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, the data from that record breaking flight: http://www.db0anf.de/app/aprs/stations/mobile-VE2WMG-12?date=2010-04-03
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[19:55] <jcoxon> they got so close to 40km : 39961m
[19:56] <Lunar_Lander> thank you jcoxon!
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> that is really amazin
[19:58] <jcoxon> i'm still not sure though
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> just 39 m away
[19:58] <jcoxon> its odd
[19:58] <jcoxon> the flight that is
[19:58] <jcoxon> seems they lost telemetry on teh way down
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:58] <Randomskk> was there some disrepancy with the data on the way up?
[19:58] <Randomskk> I seem to remember something about it being a very very steady rate
[19:59] <Randomskk> unnaturally steady
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[20:02] <jcoxon> seems like they are also planning a trans-a
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:02] <Lunar_Lander> Spirit of Knoxville IV was the most successful so far right?
[20:03] <Randomskk> hi jonsowman
[20:04] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, sort of
[20:04] <jcoxon> it got the furthest though pbh-9 flew for the longest period of time
[20:05] <jonsowman> Randomskk: hi
[20:06] <jcoxon> back in one sec
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[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:25] <natrium42> that's how he left me too :(
[20:25] <natrium42> left for "a second"
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> just to get cigarettes
[20:25] <natrium42> :(
[20:26] <jonsowman> aw
[20:30] <russss> I wonder which spheroid GPS uses to calculate altitude
[20:30] <russss> hm, apparently it's receiver-dependent.
[20:30] <russss> that's interesting
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[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1184/pict2093.jpg
[20:47] <natrium42> que?
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> Czech desert, October 8th, 2008
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> *dessert
[20:49] <natrium42> i...see...
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[21:55] <Lunar_Lander> it is so quiet, but that is no wonder at Easter Sunday at 8:55 pm GMT *sings*
[21:56] <natrium42> did the easter bunny visit you, Lunar_Lander?
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> yea, I got chocolate :P
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> and you?
[21:56] <natrium42> same
[21:57] <Lunar_Lander> cool
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[22:08] <Lunar_Lander> that is nice to hear
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[22:41] <jcoxon> okay that was a long second
[22:42] <natrium42> [15:06] * jcoxon has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:25] <natrium42> that's how he left me too :(
[22:44] <jcoxon> haha
[22:44] <jcoxon> ended up watching hte new Jonathan Creek
[22:45] <fsphil> any good?
[22:45] <jcoxon> hmmmm it was okay
[22:45] <jcoxon> not a classic
[22:46] <jcoxon> fsphil, i've added back your lat and lon boxes to the operator details on dl-fldigi
[22:46] <fsphil> sweet
[22:46] <jonsowman> jcoxon: thought it was a bit weird
[22:47] <jcoxon> i've made a list of jobs for dl-fldigi if anyone wants to help out
[22:47] <jcoxon> http://wiki.github.com/jamescoxon/dl-fldigi/
[22:48] <Randomskk> might be better suited to the Issues
[22:48] <Randomskk> allows for comments, closing via commit, etc
[22:48] <jcoxon> but its more of an informal list
[22:48] <Randomskk> fair enough
[22:48] <jcoxon> just a few ideas that might inspire someone to do some coding :-p
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