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[00:28] <MikeMc68> ahh i'll have to take my gear with me again this weekend
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[03:04] <natrium42> \o
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[03:59] <natrium42> sbasuita_, !!!!!!
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[04:25] <natrium42> :(
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[07:29] <edmoore> morning
[07:30] <jcoxon> morning edmoore
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[08:39] <jcoxon> morning fergusnoble
[08:39] <fergusnoble> morning
[08:39] <fergusnoble> hows it going?
[08:39] <jcoxon> good thanks
[08:39] <jcoxon> have just made some changes to dl-fldigi
[08:43] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, you around on saturdaY?
[08:43] <fergusnoble> yup probably will be
[08:43] <fergusnoble> just got your email about reflight
[08:44] <fergusnoble> should be fun
[08:44] <jcoxon> yeah :-S
[08:47] <MikeMc68> morning
[08:47] <jcoxon> hey MikeMc68
[08:47] <jcoxon> anyone around to test the latest version of dl-fldigi
[08:47] <jcoxon> would need to compile it though
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[08:59] <MikeMc68> What's in the new version?
[08:59] <jcoxon> i've made it a bit easier to work with - so now there is a DL Client menu in the main menu bar
[08:59] <MikeMc68> Ahh - good idea
[08:59] <jcoxon> also it reports back to the server which payload you have selected to track
[09:00] <jcoxon> which will make it easier to run multiple flights
[09:00] <MikeMc68> Has that happened before?
[09:01] <jcoxon> well originally the server tried to detect the payload from the callsign at teh beginning of the telemetry
[09:05] <MikeMc68> i see
[09:05] <jcoxon> once it detected the payload it loaded the xml file to work out how to parse the string
[09:06] <jcoxon> the only issue was that you needed to know how the string was dividied - we all used commas so thats easy but other people traditionally have used / so we thought this would be a better system
[09:07] <jcoxon> bbl
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[09:53] <rjharrison> fergusnoble It looks like the predictor is down
[09:53] <rjharrison> any news ?
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[11:14] <Laurenceb> hi
[11:21] <rjharrison> hi Laurenceb
[11:43] <SpeedEvil> rjharrison: not enough helium, it got caught in a tree
[12:21] Action: Laurenceb is thinking gps on board of gps socket
[12:21] <Laurenceb> for auotpilot board
[12:22] <Laurenceb> probably socket is better as it doesnt tie it to a particular module
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> umm - of course it does
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> oh
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> you mean with a daughterboard
[12:22] <Laurenceb> also the orientation - if its a module with a built in antenna youll only have one possible orientation
[12:22] <Laurenceb> yes
[12:23] <Laurenceb> I was thinkng a board mounted FSA03 module
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> you're thinking of selling these boards?
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> made up that is
[12:23] <Laurenceb> yeah maybe
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> you could of course do half and half
[12:23] <Laurenceb> but if there was a FSA module the board would always have to be side on
[12:23] <SpeedEvil> route for the module
[12:24] <SpeedEvil> add 4 pins (or whatever) as unpopulated holes - for headers
[12:51] <juxta> hi all
[12:52] <SpeedEvil> hi
[12:56] <juxta> any more news re launches this weekend?
[12:57] <MikeMc68> Saturday I believe
[12:57] <MikeMc68> relaunch of ballasthalo
[13:02] <rjharrison> juxta afermative on that
[13:02] <juxta> great :)
[13:02] <rjharrison> affirmative even
[13:02] <juxta> what do predictions look like?
[13:02] <rjharrison> Will you be around
[13:02] <rjharrison> http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/missions:ballasthalo:ballasthalo4
[13:02] <juxta> it'll be pretty late
[13:03] <juxta> I'll try to be around for launch, failing that I'll be online a few hours after when I wake up :)
[13:04] <rjharrison> http://maps.google.com/?q=http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/kml/02201500-all3.kml
[13:04] <juxta> ah nice - how long does that assume float for?
[13:05] <rjharrison> 10 hours ish
[13:06] <juxta> hopefully the balloon can still be heard when I come online
[13:06] <juxta> rjharrison - can I show you my board layout by the way?
[13:07] <MikeMc68> I'll be in a field in East Sussex so i'll track from there
[13:10] <juxta> MikeMc68: in a field?
[13:10] <rjharrison> juxta sure
[13:11] <rjharrison> where are the files
[13:11] <juxta> I'll shoot them to you on skype
[13:11] <rjharrison> sure
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[13:20] <MikeMc68> Yeah i'm going camping this weekend
[13:20] <MikeMc68> even though it will be sub zero temps and perhaps some snow :D
[13:21] <MikeMc68> It's a Deep Sky Camp for my Astronomy Society. We have a few a year. Although most of the time, as it is usually cloudy, we just end up getting very drunk and blowing things up or doing doughnuts in 4x4's.
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[13:35] <juxta> heh, sounds good MikeMc68 :)
[13:38] Action: SpeedEvil has been trying astrophotography on his phone.
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> stacking lots of bright and darkframes.
[13:38] <MikeMc68> lol
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> not worked yet. :)
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> first cut of 100 frames diddn't work
[13:39] <MikeMc68> I wonder why 9.9
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> The camera isn't actually bad.
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> but it does have a 1.8mm objective - so ...
[13:43] <MikeMc68> yeah - that's a tad ambitious
[13:44] <MikeMc68> Saying that - If you were to hold the camera up to the eyepiece of a telescope looking at the moon for example - you would be able to get pretty decent images
[13:44] <juxta> hmm, how do I combine nets in EAGLE?
[13:47] <MikeMc68> SpeedEvil: This is what my mate Chris did with his phone..... http://forum.orpington-astronomy.org.uk/index.php?topic=4535.msg24450#msg24450
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> yeah - done that with binocs
[13:48] <SpeedEvil> the camera is - functionally ~2MP
[13:48] <juxta> that's impressive MikeMc68
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7957
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> Who needs a big reflector/
[13:49] <SpeedEvil> ?
[13:50] <MikeMc68> lol
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[16:28] <rjharrison> Yawn
[16:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[16:29] <rjharrison> ... humm ... Yawn again ... I'm tired
[16:29] Action: rjharrison yawns :)
[16:30] <rjharrison> They are obviously not as contagious on IRC
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[19:46] <jcoxon> evening all
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[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> hello people
[19:49] <Lunar_Lander> I got a very important question
[19:50] <Lunar_Lander> is Steve Randall in here?
[19:52] <jcoxon> he is not
[19:53] <jcoxon> his nick is rocketboy
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> hi james
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[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> let me tell you why
[19:53] <jcoxon> uhuh
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> he made the parachute size graph on the Wiki
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> and now I decided to make a little booklet on my project
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> and I wanted to ask if I may use it
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[19:56] <Hiena> 'evening"
[20:04] <jcoxon> Lunar_Lander, i'm sure he'll say yes but best ask
[20:05] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[20:08] Action: Laurenceb back
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[20:16] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: good idea about the gps
[20:22] <MikeMc68> evening
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[20:47] Action: Laurenceb is looking at silabs transceiver
[20:48] <Laurenceb> looks like the si4432 is -122dBm at 2Kbps
[20:48] <Laurenceb> way better than chipcon
[20:49] <Laurenceb> its got to have a really nice lna on the front
[20:49] <SpeedEvil> interesting
[20:50] <SpeedEvil> I think at some point though, you've gotta build something.
[20:50] <SpeedEvil> Finding nicer and nicer chips doesn't really help :)
[20:50] <Laurenceb> heh
[20:50] <Laurenceb> their range calculator gives 200km over flat ground with a big yagi
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> nice
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> 433?
[20:51] <Laurenceb> with antenni 2m above ground - or 1000km from a balloon
[20:51] <Laurenceb> yes
[20:52] <russss> it would be interesting to fly one of those alongside the normal transmitter
[20:52] <Laurenceb> the really nice bit is that the packet engine talks to an internal fifo you can acess over the spi
[20:52] <Laurenceb> I have a chipcon based thingy ready to fly
[20:52] <Laurenceb> but it needs to fly with a backup
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: so you can see how far the fifo is emptying?
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> oh
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> and so you don't need to do hard-realtime reading packets
[20:53] <SpeedEvil> neat
[20:53] <Laurenceb> yeah its all built in
[20:53] <Laurenceb> along with auto resend
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[21:14] <rjharrison> evening all
[21:15] <SpeedEvil> evening
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[21:22] <Lunar_Lander> hi rjharrison
[21:24] <russss> we went to pick up the remains of BBC Kingswood Warren today
[21:24] <russss> such as tons of wire http://www.flickr.com/photos/russss/4368854056/in/photostream/
[21:28] <rjharrison> hi Lunar_Lander hows it going
[21:28] <rjharrison> You working on a project?
[21:28] <rjharrison> PING jcoxon
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[21:29] <rjharrison> www.???....
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> and I'd need RocketBoy to ask him if I may use his parachute graph
[21:29] <Lunar_Lander> www.stratosphere.weebly.com
[21:31] <rjharrison> I'm sure you can
[21:32] <rjharrison> Where so you want it
[21:33] <rjharrison> Lunar_Lander dont ask me to say that St?atósfa??a
[21:34] <rjharrison> Humm it's doen't paste too well eiher
[21:34] <rjharrison> doesn't paste even
[21:34] <rjharrison> Funky video
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[21:34] <rjharrison> I like it
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> thanks ;)
[21:36] <Lunar_Lander> I want to use the graph in a little booklet on the project
[21:38] <rjharrison> g8khw-iPhone is the man to ask
[21:38] <jcoxon> ping russss
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[21:38] <russss> that was rjharrison, not me
[21:38] <jcoxon> latests forcast http://bit.ly/abRWMQ
[21:38] <jcoxon> russss, oh its a ping for you!
[21:38] <russss> aha
[21:39] <jcoxon> ummm about that powermac...
[21:39] <jcoxon> completely dead? or potentially salvagable
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[21:39] <jcoxon> will take it off your hands
[21:39] <russss> it was out in the rain/hail
[21:39] <russss> I also don't know if it's a G5 or a Mac Pro
[21:39] <russss> so we'll see what the deal is
[21:39] <rjharrison> steve Lunar_Lander want to nick a the parachute graph for a booklet on his project
[21:40] <jcoxon> russss, well if no one wants it i'll have a go at fixing it up
[21:40] <Lunar_Lander> yes that would be great
[21:40] <russss> sure. We'll see when it dries out.
[21:41] <russss> there was an entire room of interesting-looking rubbish at Kingswood Warren which I think they were just going to bin
[21:41] <russss> but we couldn't go in there and root around :/
[21:42] <jcoxon> oh well
[21:43] <russss> maybe I should have got one of my BBC friends to try and swing us a visit
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> g8khw-iPhone is it all right to use the graph?
[21:48] <g8khw-iPhone> Oh sure np - a credit would be nice - there is one on the graph anyway
[21:49] <g8khw-iPhone> Greeter waiting got the Aa to tun up four hours now
[21:49] <g8khw-iPhone> Grrrrr
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> and I wrote in the text "courtesy Steve Randall"
[21:50] <rjharrison> Steve fame at last :-P
[21:50] <g8khw-iPhone> Thanks excellent
[21:51] <rjharrison> is the wx being updated jcoxon
[21:52] <jcoxon> not on CUSF LP
[21:52] <jcoxon> though my paths are the latest
[21:52] <jcoxon> rjharrison, http://bit.ly/abRWMQ
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[21:58] <rjharrison> Cool
[21:58] <rjharrison> Less spider like
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[22:35] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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