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[10:49] <juxta> Merry Christmas, happy Newtonian :)
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[21:22] <rjharrison_> Hi all
[21:23] <rjharrison_> Thought I'd pop on and whish you all merry cristmas
[21:23] <rjharrison_> Christmas even
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[21:57] <Laurenceb> happy christmas folks
[21:58] Action: Laurenceb has a nice present from the European commission
[21:58] <Laurenceb> http://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvgis/apps/radday.php?lang=en&map=europe
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> I got a IR soldering iron.
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> Which was nice.
[22:11] <Laurenceb> perfect for soldering this: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/10/prweb3108684.htm
[22:13] <SpeedEvil> same price as the ST one I guess
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[22:13] <SpeedEvil> 'mass market volume' = 100k+
[22:13] <Laurenceb> yeah but smaller footprint and 16bit adc
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> though not anal
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> ogue out
[22:17] <Laurenceb> it could sit on an I2C bus together with HMC5843 and an ST accel
[22:17] <Laurenceb> I2C IMU :P
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> shiny
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> can you buy the above anywhere in ones ans how much
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> Oh - and happy xmas for the next 1.8 hours.
[22:18] <Laurenceb> thanks :P
[22:19] <Laurenceb> I think if you write them a nice email they might have some samples, but its not in full production/distribution yet
[22:19] <SpeedEvil> 'Hello, my name is Abdul, and I'd like some of your gyros. I'm interested in package delivery to israel'.
[22:20] <SpeedEvil> With an element of truth.
[22:20] <SpeedEvil> A $20 guidance package would make a crap badly machined rocket a lot more accurate.
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> If only accels a lot better than 330ug/sqrt(Hz) were available.
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> ^cheaply
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> If you can resolve to 1/30000G, at 'DC' - you get altitude to 100m or so.
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> Another couple of zeros, and you can start to do gravity gradient.
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> re: above - I;'ve been wondering abiot solar thermal for a while now.
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> I wish I could buiy one and only one solar tube.
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> Instrument it, and observe over a substantuial fraction of a year
[22:30] <Laurenceb> that page has all the data you need
[22:30] <Laurenceb> well - doesnt seem to have variance data
[22:30] <SpeedEvil> Umm...
[22:30] <SpeedEvil> Maybe.
[22:30] <SpeedEvil> Not quite.
[22:31] <SpeedEvil> It doesn;t give me how to convert from specular insolation to a family of W/C curves for those insolations for the tube.
[22:32] <Laurenceb> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/58mm-dia-high-spec-20-Tube-Solar-Water-Heating-Panel_W0QQitemZ180323777448QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air?hash=item29fc227ba8
[22:32] <Laurenceb> has some data
[22:33] Action: Laurenceb needs a script to grab the raw data
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> that sort of panel, ytes.
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> But picking it up is a bitch for me
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> Especially with the fucking fuel duty escalator.
[22:34] <Laurenceb> I was just linking it for the performance/cost data
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[22:35] <SpeedEvil> I've found severl pickup one s in that range.
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[22:36] <SpeedEvil> data from?
[22:37] <Laurenceb> the features table
[22:37] <Laurenceb> SPF test 829
[22:37] <SpeedEvil> Oh - and brother was playing with cheap chinook model.
[22:37] <SpeedEvil> err - it's a text table - how do you need a script.
[22:37] <SpeedEvil> Or am I missing soemthing.
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> Isn't that 'email me for the results' ?
[22:40] <SpeedEvil> I wonder how well magnetineters work in yior average building.
[22:43] <SpeedEvil> Interesting site dfor the insolation - thans
[23:09] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: script so you can have stuff like a function that gives an insolation dataset directly from latitude,longitude,and pointing azimuth and elevation
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> ah
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> you're wondering about balloon sims?
[23:10] <Laurenceb> could probably done with some python thingy to fire stuff at that php page, then strip out the html
[23:10] <Laurenceb> no, for solar space heating
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> ah
[23:11] <Laurenceb> using a thermal store and a load of ebay tubes
[23:50] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: http://pastebin.com/m1a37488b
[23:50] <Laurenceb> rough for derby
[23:51] <Laurenceb> about 4 months of pretty worthless performance
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> interesting
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> I have questions on what they mean by 'average day'
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> As some averages may be misleading
[23:54] <Laurenceb> yeah - I'm just making a graph
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