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[06:36] <juxta_> has anybody used hydrogen in a launch before?
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[07:40] <rjharrison> Ok I think I'm going to fly tomorrow
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[08:41] <MikeMc> Morning
[08:46] <MikeMc> rjharrison: you're going to launch tomorrow?
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[12:32] <juxta_> evening all :)
[13:09] <junderwood_> rjharrison: still planning to launch tomorrow?
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[13:14] <jcoxon> hey all
[13:14] Action: jcoxon 's seeedstudio pcbs have arrived :-)
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[13:28] <Laurenceb> hi
[13:40] <jcoxon> hey Laurenceb
[13:43] <jcoxon> yay my lassen iq is alive
[13:46] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, i got my seeedstudio pcbs today
[13:53] <jcoxon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/4079778441/
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:55] <jcoxon> $18 for 5
[13:57] <jcoxon> bbiab
[14:00] <Randomskk> jcoxon: how are they?
[14:00] <Randomskk> mine were missing a load of silkscreen >.>
[14:17] <jcoxon> mine a good
[14:32] <jcoxon> they are pretty small boards though
[14:32] <jcoxon> but yeah i'm pleased
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[14:43] <Randomskk> Jon_Apex: hi there
[14:43] <Jon_Apex> hello
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[15:01] <MikeMc> Hi all
[15:02] <MikeMc> is rjharrison going ahead with his launch tomorrow ?
[15:21] <jcoxon> MikeMc, from what i've heard yes
[15:22] <MikeMc> great :D
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[15:35] <jcoxon> MikeMc, you planning on going?
[15:35] <MikeMc> sure am
[15:36] <jcoxon> cool
[15:37] <jcoxon> MikeMc, i'll be tracking from london
[15:37] <MikeMc> I see
[15:37] <MikeMc> I'd just like to see a luanch and what goes into it
[15:42] <jcoxon> actually they'll be 2 launches tomorrow
[15:43] <MikeMc> 2? same place?
[15:43] <jcoxon> yup
[15:43] <jcoxon> MikeMc, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/4079778441/
[15:44] <Randomskk> I didn't get a nice letter with mine :(
[15:44] <Randomskk> (also mine took a month and had silk missing >_>)
[15:48] <MikeMc> nice
[15:48] <MikeMc> You launching too James?
[15:48] <jcoxon> i'll get some more info from rob and steve and then will email around about the launch
[15:48] <jcoxon> nope not me
[15:48] <MikeMc> cool
[15:49] <MikeMc> Ahh Steve
[15:49] <MikeMc> ok
[15:49] <MikeMc> yeah it would be nice to see teh launches and also put some faces to names
[15:49] <jcoxon> sure, launches are good fun
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[16:10] <Laurenceb> jcoxon: is that screenshot from PCB ?
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[16:40] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, which screenshot?
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[16:55] <jcoxon> hmm i'd forgotten how crappy the lassen iq is indoors
[16:56] <MikeMc> really?
[16:57] <jcoxon> compared to a ublox yes
[16:57] <MikeMc> I got a GOS unit from Maplins. £14.99 for a Speed Camera Detector. I obviously opened it up to hack it. No good for HAB but it picks up GPS signals all over the house and has very fast acquisition. Well impressed.
[16:57] <MikeMc> GPS
[16:57] <MikeMc> I haven't tried my Lassen yet
[16:58] <jcoxon> yeah probably a sirf III
[16:58] <jcoxon> lassens are fine in the air but they are really old gpses
[16:58] <MikeMc> i see
[16:59] <MikeMc> I'll have to obtain a uBlox sometime to have a play
[17:00] <jcoxon> for example the lassen is 12 channel while the new ubloxes (?40) are 50 channel
[17:06] <MikeMc> yeah
[17:06] <MikeMc> slight difference
[17:06] <russss> 50 channel?!
[17:06] <russss> is it even possible to have 50 satellites visible?
[17:06] <jcoxon> no
[17:06] <jcoxon> there aren't even 50 sats i don't think
[17:07] <jcoxon> but thats not the point :-)
[17:08] <russss> heh, that's true
[17:08] <MikeMc> it means it can lock onto them quicker and keep a lock too
[17:08] <russss> there are 29 healthy
[17:08] <MikeMc> plus higher accuracy
[17:09] <jcoxon> right time to make a new antenna for tracking tomorrow
[17:09] <MikeMc> Yagi ?
[17:09] <jcoxon> i left my moxon in my car which is not in london
[17:10] <jcoxon> i think i'm just going to make a coax extension and use a whip positioned outside
[17:14] <MikeMc> i see
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[17:17] <Laurenceb> ublox5 will track galileo
[17:17] <Laurenceb> if it ever gets built
[17:17] <Laurenceb> that will help use up the channels
[17:19] <SpeedEvil> IIRC 2015 is the scehduled date ATM
[17:19] <MikeMc> no point
[17:19] <MikeMc> the world is going to end in 2012
[17:22] <Laurenceb> they have awarded 3 contracts for 8 stats as I last understood it
[17:23] <SpeedEvil> Actuallyu - it'd only very recently that the license fee to implement a gallleo reciever was scraped
[17:24] <Laurenceb> heh
[17:24] <Laurenceb> http://hcc.web.cern.ch/hcc/cryo_main/cryo_main.php?region=Sector81
[17:24] <Laurenceb> thats the lhc chart the register were talking about
[17:27] <MikeMc> can someone give me a link to the google maps tracking thingy page please
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[17:31] <SpeedEvil> MikeMc: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoceros
[17:31] <SpeedEvil> err
[17:31] <jcoxon> http://spacenear.us/tracker
[17:31] <SpeedEvil> http://spacenear.us/tracker/
[17:31] <jcoxon> hehe
[17:32] <jcoxon> hey RocketBoy
[17:32] <MikeMc> is that the right one? I saw one with a ustream thing on it
[17:33] <jcoxon> there are 2
[17:33] <jcoxon> but they get teh same data
[17:33] <MikeMc> Nice Rhino btw
[17:33] <jcoxon> spacenear.us/tracker is teh one we usually give out
[17:33] <Laurenceb> Rhino?
[17:33] <Laurenceb> oh
[17:34] <jcoxon> http://www.robertharrison.org/tracker/
[17:34] <jcoxon> is the other
[17:36] <MikeMc> chees
[17:36] <MikeMc> *r
[17:36] <MikeMc> cheers
[17:42] <Laurenceb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/4016602403/sizes/l/in/set-72157621083447545/
[17:42] <Laurenceb> interesting stuff
[17:42] <Laurenceb> does it leak at the bottom?
[17:43] <jcoxon> nope
[17:43] <Laurenceb> hmm I'd be wary about jamming pipes in
[17:43] <jcoxon> oh its a proto prototype
[17:43] <SpeedEvil> esp in temp changes
[17:44] <Laurenceb> id suggest some threaded bar
[17:44] <jcoxon> just to actually see if the valve can empty the bottle at a sufficient rate
[17:44] <Laurenceb> screwed in, maybe with some ptfe tape around it
[17:44] <Laurenceb> and a hold drilled down the middle
[17:45] <jcoxon> sounds like a good idea
[17:46] <Laurenceb> really need a lathe for that
[17:46] <Laurenceb> - as also youd want to take some of the thread off to get a good attatchment with the hose
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: naah
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: powerdrill and a file work fine
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> Though a lathe is good too.
[17:52] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/experiencere
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[17:57] <junderwood_> Any news on frequencies for tomorrow's race to the North Sea?
[17:57] <Laurenceb> race?
[17:58] <jcoxon> junderwood_, just emailed the ukhas group
[17:58] <jcoxon> 434.075 and 434.650
[17:58] <jcoxon> i think the plan will be that if there are enough listeners we'll split the freqs between us to track both payloads
[18:00] <junderwood_> I'll probably just have to leave the radio on - I'm out tomorrow.
[18:00] <Laurenceb> whos launching?
[18:01] <jcoxon> junderwood_, okay, could you tune to 434.075
[18:01] <jcoxon> as that'll probably launch first
[18:01] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, rjharrison and RocketBoy
[18:01] <Laurenceb> cool
[18:01] Action: Laurenceb will be at SEDS
[18:02] <junderwood_> will do
[18:02] #highaltitude: mode change '+o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[18:02] <Laurenceb> dont ban me
[18:02] <junderwood_> Need to subscribe to ukhas list - is it closed?
[18:02] Action: Laurenceb cowers in fear
[18:03] Topic changed on #highaltitude by jcoxon!n=jcoxon@host86-163-120-1.range86-163.btcentralplus.com: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) www.ukhas.org.uk, wiki.ukhas.org.uk - Icarus + XABEN launch Sat 6/11/09 ~9am
[18:03] <Laurenceb> the jcoxon overloard
[18:03] <jcoxon> junderwood_, http://groups.google.com/group/ukhas
[18:03] <jcoxon> first message is moderated
[18:03] <junderwood_> Ta
[18:03] <MikeMc> 9am launch !!
[18:03] <MikeMc> eek!
[18:03] <Laurenceb> heh
[18:03] <MikeMc> I'd better get up super early
[18:04] <jcoxon> MikeMc, thats what i've heard
[18:04] <jcoxon> thats why i like stay home and tracking
[18:05] <MikeMc> lol
[18:05] <MikeMc> might not be another launch for ages so i'll get up early and drive up
[18:05] <MikeMc> damn
[18:05] <MikeMc> just thought of something
[18:05] <MikeMc> might not be able to make it after all if it is that early
[18:06] <MikeMc> will have to check something out
[18:06] <jcoxon> the XABEN launch will probably be later
[18:09] Action: Laurenceb was going to head to Guildford to SEDS
[18:09] <Laurenceb> but maybe I could come to the launch instead
[18:10] <natrium42> oooh
[18:10] <natrium42> yay, finally a launch :D
[18:11] <jcoxon> natrium42, early night for you then!
[18:11] <natrium42> 3am :D
[18:11] <natrium42> i guess i will stay up late, need to mark some assignments anyway...
[18:12] <jcoxon> hehe
[18:12] <jcoxon> while that plan is good you know how our launches are always delayed
[18:12] <jcoxon> :-p
[18:13] <rjharrison> Hi all
[18:13] <natrium42> well, i can stay up until 5 probably
[18:13] <natrium42> hey robert
[18:14] <rjharrison> Launch is on tomorrow
[18:14] <rjharrison> Hi natrium42
[18:14] <natrium42> everything is ready?
[18:14] <rjharrison> Im in a bit of a rush as I have to do a fireworks party
[18:14] <Laurenceb> attach to balloon?
[18:14] <rjharrison> natrium42 not yet but it's icarus II so I just need to add batteriels
[18:14] <jcoxon> rjharrison, what time you planning to launch?
[18:14] <rjharrison> ~9am arrive
[18:14] <rjharrison> 10 am lauinch
[18:15] <rjharrison> Will be using the local repater to talk with camb
[18:15] <rjharrison> jcoxon can you email furgus and the cusf crowd
[18:15] <jcoxon> sure
[18:15] <rjharrison> will move to simplex for launch info
[18:15] <jcoxon> okay
[18:16] <rjharrison> Going to see if we can talk from ears tro camb
[18:16] <jcoxon> might try and do echolink to listen in
[18:16] <jcoxon> you happy for me to coordinate?
[18:16] <rjharrison> OK call thought it would add to the fun
[18:16] <rjharrison> jcoxon be great
[18:16] <rjharrison> call = cool
[18:16] <rjharrison> MikeMc you're welcone to come and watch / help
[18:16] <rjharrison> anyone else?
[18:17] <rjharrison> All radio listeners see UKHAS and jcoxon for info on how to track
[18:27] <MikeMc> i might have to bob out if it is that early
[18:27] <MikeMc> i have something that must be done in the morning. I can come right after that but wouldn't get there till about 11.30 at the earliest
[18:28] <MikeMc> maybe next time. But i'll track them.
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[18:46] <DanielRichman> ping sbasuita
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[18:49] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, dannnnnnnnn
[18:49] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, david called me cause he wasn't sure if you would get the email ;P
[18:49] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, hahaha :D
[18:49] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, no, he's not a retard, and can actually send an email correctly. UNLIKE SOMEONE
[18:50] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, so you know the story?
[18:50] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, don't try and blame me for your failure
[18:50] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it's YOUR failure
[18:50] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, did you not just read my previous post?
[18:50] <sbasuita> anyway i'll bbiab pizza is here
[18:50] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, ofc I read it; he might have phoned you but told you nothing :O
[19:05] <rjharrison> Hi guys
[19:05] <rjharrison> You going to be listening in tomorrow?
[19:05] <rjharrison> DanielRichman
[19:06] <DanielRichman> rjharrison, during the launch we will actually be at a foundation license training course :P
[19:06] <rjharrison> hehe
[19:06] <rjharrison> Tune in
[19:06] <DanielRichman> not sure they'll care for some rtty, but I can mention it if someone there has a 70cm lying around
[19:06] <rjharrison> Theu will be impressed as they won't know anything about it :)
[19:06] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, unless you want me to bring the radio
[19:06] <DanielRichman> rjharrison, true dat.
[19:07] <rjharrison> :)
[19:08] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, do you haev a foundation license now book?
[19:11] <Laurenceb> what the plan for tomorrow?
[19:11] <Laurenceb> altitude attempt or what?
[19:14] <rjharrison> Laurenceb sort of
[19:14] <Laurenceb> whats the weather like?
[19:15] <Laurenceb> tomorrow?
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[19:55] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: ping
[19:58] <SpeedEvil> ?
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[20:02] <Laurenceb> http://www.dunnspace.com/isp.htm
[20:03] <Laurenceb> I was using that to sim AP propellant
[20:03] <Laurenceb> looks like the ISP I used in the rockoon sim was accurate
[20:03] <Laurenceb> about 260seconds
[20:04] <SpeedEvil> Interesting.
[20:05] <Laurenceb> that code says up to 360 seconds in a vacuum with a huge nozzle
[20:06] <SpeedEvil> Is that assuming reaction all the way?
[20:06] <Laurenceb> I estimated the loss caused by thermal losses and incomplete reaction using the cesaroni test data
[20:07] <Laurenceb> then accounted for atmospheric pressure and the piss poor nozzle they use
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[20:07] <Laurenceb> end up with something in the region of 6 to 9% losses "unaccounted"
[20:07] <Laurenceb> that could be put down to incomplete combustion and thermal loss
[20:08] <Laurenceb> I end up with at 2.5% margin over the 260/265 isp I assumed on the first and upper stages
[20:08] <Laurenceb> when I put in the data for the design
[20:08] <Laurenceb> of course you could write a really funcky design optimiser now with all the data
[20:09] <Laurenceb> optimise nozzle expansion, throat size, mass distribution between stages
[20:09] <SpeedEvil> trajectory, ...
[20:10] <Laurenceb> well those would be your inputs
[20:11] <Laurenceb> but my existing partially guesstimated design works with a bit of margin
[20:11] <Laurenceb> interestingly the ISP is still lower than the space shuttle SRB
[20:19] <SpeedEvil> are you properly counting the effect of small engines?
[20:20] <Laurenceb> I just tried nitrous/kerosene, ISP vacuum is 288
[20:20] <Laurenceb> SpeedEvil: I was using the cesaroni test data to compare
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> ah
[20:22] <Laurenceb> and found a 6 to 9% isp loss thats unaccounted for
[20:22] <SpeedEvil> Going to sleep, may be back later. Wiped out with too much DIY
[20:22] <SpeedEvil> :)
[20:22] <Laurenceb> - I accounted for atmospheric pressure and piss poor nozzle
[20:22] <Laurenceb> cya
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[20:49] <rjharrison> Hi all
[20:49] <rjharrison> here for 5
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[20:49] <rjharrison> hey fergusnoble
[20:49] <fergusnoble> hi
[20:51] <jcoxon> hey
[20:52] <jcoxon> just built a new antenna
[20:52] <jcoxon> my best moxon yet
[20:53] <jcoxon> so i'm all set
[20:54] <fergusnoble> awesome
[20:54] <fergusnoble> ill go and dig out the tracking gear tonight
[20:54] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, where will you be based?
[20:54] <jcoxon> cam?
[20:54] <fergusnoble> could be a good chance to test the rotator
[20:54] <fergusnoble> yeah
[20:54] <fergusnoble> rjharrison has offered to pick me up so I should be coming to the launch
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[20:55] <jcoxon> okay cool
[20:56] <jcoxon> the plan is to get enough people receiving to be able ot track both payload
[20:56] <jcoxon> s
[20:56] <fergusnoble> cool
[20:56] <fergusnoble> I could set up a couple of stations
[20:56] <jcoxon> i think we'll have enough to tell the truth
[20:56] <jcoxon> so you can focus on one
[20:56] <SpikeUK> jcoxon - I should be around tomorrow too
[20:57] <jcoxon> SpikeUK, great
[20:57] <fergusnoble> rjharrison: are you recovering the payload?
[20:57] <jcoxon> for the remote stations we'll have: jcoxon, MikeMc, SpikeUK and junderwood (unmanned)
[20:58] <jcoxon> so if we have 2 on each payload that'll have that covered
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[20:58] <jcoxon> rjharrison, could we clean the logger file and start afresh
[21:01] <SpikeUK> BBL - woooosssshhh
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[21:49] <rjharrison> Hi all
[21:49] <rjharrison> I'v kicked the guests out
[21:49] <rjharrison> time to get sorted for tomorrow
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[21:50] <rjharrison> fergusnoble_ yes
[21:50] <rjharrison> fergusnoble_ yes to recovery
[21:50] <rjharrison> I can leve you back at camb on the way of you like
[21:52] <fergusnoble_> yeah that would be great
[21:52] <fergusnoble_> if its not too much hassle
[21:52] <rjharrison> No problem
[21:52] <rjharrison> It will sort of be on the way I think
[21:52] <rjharrison> can you PM your mobile or contact number to me
[21:53] <rjharrison> will be about 8:30 ish
[21:53] <rjharrison> sorry :)
[21:53] <rjharrison> EARS 4 9
[21:53] <rjharrison> jcoxon logger file cleared
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[21:54] <rjharrison> jcoxon track cleared
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[21:55] <jcoxon> rjharrison, thanks
[21:56] <jcoxon> spacenear.us is clear as well
[21:58] <rjharrison> RocketBoy|Away please can you bring some balloon - payload string along
[21:59] <rjharrison> I have a bit but perhaps not enough
[21:59] <jcoxon> rjharrison, i can't listen into the cambridge repeater
[21:59] <Randomskk> yay
[22:00] Action: Randomskk now has foundation and intermediate licenses
[22:00] <jcoxon> Randomskk, good work
[22:00] <rjharrison> Yay
[22:00] <jcoxon> callsign?
[22:00] <rjharrison> Callsign sir
[22:00] <rjharrison> hehe
[22:01] <Randomskk> no idea yet
[22:01] <Randomskk> gotta wait a few days and hit up ofcom and choose one
[22:02] <jcoxon> fair enough
[22:02] <jcoxon> Randomskk, you tracking tomorrow?
[22:02] <Randomskk> probably not - doing an engineering outreach thing 0900 to 1500 and then going into london for the evening
[22:02] <Randomskk> also not got a radio
[22:03] <jcoxon> hehe fair enough
[22:04] <Randomskk> need to get a radio actually
[22:04] <Randomskk> full license exam in a month, suck to have that and not an actual radio :P
[22:05] <naxxfish> i really need to pester the guy who does exams near me ... feeling rather left out :p
[22:06] <MikeMc> hey
[22:07] <Randomskk> gonna have to get a radio and tx on 400W just to speak to the guy on the floor above
[22:07] <Randomskk> "hi, wanna come down for dinner"
[22:07] <naxxfish> you'd need a very big antenna ...
[22:08] <Randomskk> eh, go on UHF
[22:08] <Randomskk> maybe a 1m dipole
[22:09] <naxxfish> with 400W going into it?
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[22:09] <Randomskk> anything bigger would practically be going into his room anyway
[22:10] <Randomskk> heh
[22:10] <naxxfish> lol
[22:10] <Randomskk> probably could get away with a bit less than 400W
[22:10] <Randomskk> maybe several orders of magnitude less
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[22:10] <naxxfish> 40W would get you a *long* way :p
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> 1W will get you across continents in the right modes.
[22:11] <naxxfish> well, i suppose it depends if that was per plane
[22:12] <Randomskk> 0.4W would probably be more than enough
[22:12] <MikeMc> why did I not get the UKHAS email?
[22:12] <Randomskk> heck, putting a resistor accross the antenna would probably still be enough, you could pick up on the signal transmitted from the resistor leads
[22:12] <rjharrison> any one know the deatils for the camb 2m repeater>
[22:12] <rjharrison> ?
[22:12] <rjharrison> In / Out and CTCSS
[22:13] <Randomskk> http://www.cambridgerepeaters.net/?page_id=4 ?
[22:13] <Randomskk> 145.150, 145,750, 77Hz
[22:13] <rjharrison> thanks
[22:14] <Randomskk> assuming that's the 2m repeater you are looking for.
[22:15] <rjharrison> Randomskk yep perfect
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[22:43] <rjharrison> this will be the forth flight for this payload
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> you're planning on going north?
[22:49] <rjharrison> No
[22:49] <rjharrison> should I be
[22:49] <rjharrison> north flight?
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[22:50] <rjharrison> moxon shield comming up
[22:50] <rjharrison> coxon
[22:51] <MikeMc> what times are the launches again?
[22:51] <MikeMc> is it 9 and 10 ?
[22:55] <jcoxon> more like 10
[22:55] <jcoxon> i reckon
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> The firth of forth is the river flowing into the sea that divides scotland above aberdeen.
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> It was a spelling nit.
[22:56] Action: SpeedEvil should avoid those.
[22:58] <MikeMc> and where is the predicted landing spot?
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[22:59] <junderwood_> Landing spot is somewhere just of the east coast of Suffolk :-)
[23:00] <MikeMc> cool
[23:00] <jcoxon> junderwood_, they are going for a slightly faster ascent rate
[23:00] <jcoxon> so a little bit more west :-p
[23:04] <junderwood_> Is there a sweepstake?
[23:07] <jcoxon> not yet
[23:07] <jcoxon> and they have to be positive - the sea doesn't count :-p
[23:07] <SpeedEvil> Why not?
[23:07] <SpeedEvil> North, atlantic, dead, ...
[23:08] Action: SpeedEvil puts a penguin bar on the pacific.
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[23:11] <jcoxon> someone should write a little google map page
[23:12] <jcoxon> so that we can mark on our sweep stakes
[23:13] <junderwood_> FWIW the 6pm GFS forecast suggests you need to beat 6 m/s RoA if you want to land the right (left!) side of Southwold
[23:14] <junderwood_> (assuming you make it to 35km)
[23:16] <junderwood_> 3pm launch puts you 10 miles down the coast
[23:16] <jcoxon> junderwood_, but to get 6m/s you wouldn't make 35km
[23:17] <jcoxon> its more like 5m/s and 30-32km
[23:17] <junderwood_> True. So faster is better - burst low and quicker
[23:17] <jcoxon> yes, its not really going to be an alt record
[23:17] <junderwood_> indeed
[23:18] <jcoxon> more of a launch with pics and a chance for tracking
[23:20] <junderwood_> 30 klicks helps a lot
[23:20] <junderwood_> Stowmarket
[23:21] <jcoxon> yeah
[23:21] <jcoxon> we are experiencing very high winds right now
[23:21] <jcoxon> around 100mb which is unusual
[23:22] <jcoxon> and actually up at 10mb
[23:23] <junderwood_> Well. Good luck! I hope to come back to find my radio has been tracking something!
[23:24] <junderwood_> Knowing my luck it will lock onto the wrong sideband and pick up zilch
[23:24] <jcoxon> hehe, tis the risk
[23:25] <junderwood_> TTFN
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[23:26] <sbasuita> Almost 40 people ;O
[23:26] <MikeMc> for what?
[23:26] <sbasuita> MikeMc, you weren't here when there was massive excitement about hitting thirty a few months ago ;)
[23:27] <jcoxon> sbasuita, you weren't here with the massive excitiment of hitting 3
[23:27] <sbasuita> jcoxon, ; )
[23:28] <MikeMc> so 40 people for what?
[23:28] <jcoxon> on the channel
[23:28] <MikeMc> oh
[23:28] <MikeMc> most are just lurkers though
[23:28] <MikeMc> they never talk
[23:28] <Randomskk> same in any channel though
[23:29] <Randomskk> you get loads and loads of mysterious people who are always online and never say anything
[23:29] <Randomskk> probably secretly logging everything, waiting for someone to slip up so they can blackmail them
[23:29] <Randomskk> who knows, right?
[23:29] <sbasuita> Randomskk, >_>
[23:29] <Randomskk> >_> I try to at least say something now and again
[23:30] <sbasuita> russss, allo
[23:30] <SpikeUK> <unmask>Boo</unmask>
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[23:32] <jcoxon> right will be on tomorrow
[23:32] <jcoxon> night all
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[23:33] <MikeMc> cya
[23:36] <RocketBoy|Away> nights
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