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[07:08] <jcoxon> morning
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[07:21] <edmoore> jcoxon: is a fairly extreme solution!
[07:22] <jcoxon> yeah but its sooo broken
[07:23] <jcoxon> real people that come along just see spam
[07:23] <jcoxon> and i can't seem to delete it
[07:23] <natrium42> jcoxon: we should all just get google wave :P
[07:24] <jcoxon> :-)
[07:24] <natrium42> in fact, we can even make our own widgets
[07:24] <natrium42> like the cusf predictor
[07:24] <natrium42> or the tracker
[07:25] <edmoore> buzzwords!
[07:25] <jcoxon> i haven't played with google wave yet
[07:25] <jcoxon> still struggle with email :-)
[07:25] <edmoore> what is web 3.0 going to be, and can we jump ahead of the curve?
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[07:27] <natrium42> basically your computer becomes a browser
[07:27] <natrium42> you only run remote web apps
[07:27] <natrium42> or something...
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[07:30] <jcoxon> so any thouhts on the mailing list?
[07:33] <natrium42> not sure, are there any ways to block the spam?
[07:33] <jcoxon> well its now setup so no new people can auto post messages - need to be moderated
[07:34] <natrium42> can you change it?
[07:34] <jcoxon> but the archives are full of spam
[07:34] <edmoore_> good old-fashioned mailman?
[07:35] <jcoxon> natrium42, yes, the options are unmoderated, first posts need to be moderated or all posts are moderated
[07:35] <natrium42> ah :S
[07:35] <edmoore_> with a member moderation rather than a post moderation
[07:35] <MikeMc> morning
[07:35] <jcoxon> i was think we should go back to the old mailing list method
[07:36] <jcoxon> morning MikeMc
[07:36] <MikeMc> James I am gutted I missed your talk last night
[07:36] <natrium42> oh yeah, how did the talk go?
[07:36] <MikeMc> My director had a bright idea to have a meeting with me at 3.30, didn't arrive till 4.10 and then took me on a tour of clients sites till 7.30
[07:36] <jcoxon> MikeMc, its no worries - i can send the slide
[07:36] <MikeMc> so i would'nt have got there till around 9 at the earliest
[07:37] <MikeMc> well after your talk had finished no doubt
[07:37] <MikeMc> gutted
[07:37] <jcoxon> finished around 9
[07:37] <MikeMc> :(
[07:37] <jcoxon> natrium42, yeah it went well
[07:37] <jcoxon> about 15 people or so
[07:37] <jcoxon> not many people were at hackspace that evening anyway
[07:37] <jcoxon> the people who listened seemed interested and inspired
[07:38] <natrium42> cool
[07:39] <MikeMc> yeah the talk on the hackspace channel last night was full of praise
[07:40] <jcoxon> oh cool
[07:40] <jcoxon> its time for a lunch though
[07:40] <MikeMc> I think Caitlin's in love with you
[07:40] <jcoxon> stupid jetsteram
[07:40] <MikeMc> lol
[07:40] <jcoxon> haha
[07:43] <edmoore_> right, time to face the day. catch you later
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[07:46] Action: natrium42 Zzz
[07:46] <natrium42> gnite
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[07:53] <jcoxon> natrium42, they were very interested in your spot hacking
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[08:26] <edmoore> jcoxon: converged on a solution with natrium42 ?
[08:30] <jcoxon> nope
[08:30] <jcoxon> natrium42, went to zzz
[08:36] <edmoore> oh year
[08:36] <edmoore> it is zzz o'clock
[08:36] <edmoore> in canada
[08:37] <jcoxon> indeed
[08:38] <jcoxon> edmoore, we are having odd jetstream conditions
[08:38] <edmoore> yes it is wierd
[08:38] <edmoore> and persistantly bad
[08:39] <jcoxon> still having super high winds
[08:39] Action: jcoxon is itching for a launch
[08:39] Action: MikeMc is too
[08:39] <edmoore> right, lectures
[08:39] <edmoore> ttyl
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[09:38] <rjharrison> hi jcoxon
[09:38] <jcoxon> hey rjharrison
[09:39] <rjharrison> I'm seriously thinking about launching this w/e
[09:39] <rjharrison> The wx is about as good as it's going to be in the next few days
[09:40] <rjharrison> cusf is looking possible with 7 m/s asc. ceiling 39km
[09:40] <jcoxon> but i doubt youll get 39km off 7m/s
[09:46] <jcoxon> its a tough one
[09:47] <jcoxon> have you looked at burst1a about ascent rates and burst alts?
[09:54] <rjharrison> jcoxon to be honnest I don't think I'll get a record this time around
[09:54] <rjharrison> I have put some fat in the costs and there should be enough for a second attempt when the wx is better
[10:16] <rjharrison> .
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[10:44] <juxta> evening all
[10:44] <rjharrison> evening juxta
[10:45] <rjharrison> Though it's only 10:44 am here
[10:45] <rjharrison> :)
[10:45] <juxta> hehe
[10:45] <juxta> has anybody here used 'gmapcatcher' before?
[10:48] <rjharrison> No I don't think so
[10:48] <rjharrison> Not heard it on here before
[10:48] <juxta> I just came across is
[10:48] <juxta> it*
[10:48] <juxta> it's an offline google maps downloader, seems to work very well
[10:49] <juxta> can get data from a GPS too it seems
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[11:01] <rjharrison> Ooh
[11:01] <rjharrison> Sounds good
[11:02] <rjharrison> I wouldn't mind that
[11:03] <rjharrison> juxta I'll have a look at that later
[11:03] <juxta> yeah, it looks really nifty, just playing with it now
[11:03] <rjharrison> Could be a good tool when out of mobile internet range
[11:03] <juxta> yeah, exactly
[11:03] <rjharrison> UK has good coverage
[11:04] <rjharrison> Probably not the same for you in the outback
[11:04] <juxta> AU only has metro coverage :)
[11:04] <juxta> http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/coverage/
[11:04] <juxta> pick south australia ;)
[11:05] <juxta> essentially I'm assured to have no coverage, hehe
[11:06] <juxta> but the mapper software is pretty cool, you can pick a center point, the zoom range you want, and how much area also
[11:06] <juxta> and it'll grab it all
[11:07] <juxta> I'm doing 200x200km at a maximum level of '3' (4 is close enough to make out individual streets and names), and it seems like it'll take about 10 minutes
[11:08] <MikeMc> hi all
[11:09] <juxta> hi MikeMc
[11:09] <MikeMc> hey
[11:09] <MikeMc> Did I hear something about a possible launch this weekend?
[11:09] <juxta> how's the project coming along?
[11:09] <MikeMc> slowly
[11:09] <MikeMc> should finally have some free time this W/E so hoping to work on some testing
[11:10] <juxta> i'll be finished with exams soon, so I can spend lots more time :D
[11:10] <MikeMc> cool
[11:13] <rjharrison> Good chance of a launch this w/e
[11:13] <rjharrison> from EARS
[11:13] <rjharrison> Sat / Sun will confirm Friday Lunch
[11:16] <MikeMc> great
[11:16] <MikeMc> would love to come and watch if poss. pls
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[11:31] <MikeMc> How long do rechargable batteries last in the FT-790R ?
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[13:05] <juxta> has anybody kept records on previous launches of predicted landing spots (via CUSF flight predictor or similar) and actual landing spot?
[13:23] <MikeMc> juxta: looks like nobody is around today
[13:24] <juxta> :(
[13:24] <juxta> MikeMc: you should measure how much power your radio consumes on receive with a multimeter
[13:24] <MikeMc> i guess so yeach
[13:24] <MikeMc> just wondered if anyone could giv e me some real world examples
[13:26] <MikeMc> so how's the weather in Oz today?
[13:31] <juxta> pretty good
[13:31] <juxta> my soldering iron packed up this arvo, so that gave me an excuse to ride in to town and replace it
[13:32] <juxta> nice afternoon :)
[13:32] <juxta> how about the UK?
[13:32] <MikeMc> UK is cold and grey
[13:32] <MikeMc> as usual
[13:33] <juxta> how cold is it at the moment?
[13:36] <MikeMc> 12 Degrees C
[13:37] <juxta> ah, that's not so bad :)
[13:39] <MikeMc> that's a tropical summers day for the UK
[13:42] <juxta> should be 28 here tomorrow, 36 over the weekend
[13:47] <MikeMc> bastard :P
[13:47] <juxta> ah well, I'm stuck studying for a week yet
[13:47] <juxta> then I'm free
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> It is 11C here - in the lounge.
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> I don't currently have the heating on.
[13:54] <juxta> that's a bit cool
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> Economy basically. Plus I've found it makes me more likely to go out and do stuff, which needs done.
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> Also multiple layers of clothing means it's OK.
[13:55] <juxta> makes sense, at least when it's cold you can rug up
[13:56] <juxta> when it's 45 degrees here, there's not much you can do :)
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> Not C, no.
[13:57] <SpeedEvil> Though at that temperature, I would be investing in a large chest freezer, and climbing in.
[13:57] <juxta> haha
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[16:09] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> frt
[16:29] <MikeMc> Hi
[16:40] <jcoxon> oh no! i've run out of solder :-(
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[16:48] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, call ferrington
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[16:50] <DanielRichman> ping jcoxon
[16:51] <jcoxon> hey DanielRichman
[16:51] <DanielRichman> jcoxon, not significant to warrant a reply to the list, but I've been using Mailman for half a year now for some school projects and it's great
[16:52] <DanielRichman> It's not in moderate first post mode - it's in only-members can post to the list mode, and that's fine, I moderate joining
[16:52] <jcoxon> okay cool
[16:52] <jcoxon> google groups used to be great but there is so muc spam these days
[16:52] <jcoxon> was driving me a little mad
[16:53] <DanielRichman> maybe there's a setting... cause all the spam i get from the group just goes straight into my google mail spam folder.
[16:53] <jcoxon> oh it goes into mine as well
[16:54] <jcoxon> but its still there in the archive and i sometimes think that messages don't get through
[16:54] <DanielRichman> so google certainly can stop spam... why not for groups?
[16:56] <DanielRichman> anyway jcoxon i'd definitely recommend mailman. It's tasty
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[16:56] <sbasuita> Just do first post moderation and it'll be fine.
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[16:57] <jcoxon> sbasuita, oh its in place already
[16:57] <jcoxon> i'm the one who moderates it all day
[16:58] <jcoxon> :-)
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[16:59] <sbasuita> jcoxon, cool - then if the archives have been cleaned out it seems we don't have a problem :)
[17:00] <jcoxon> ;-)
[17:06] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, I emailed him yesterday... seems unfair to harass him; shall I call?
[17:06] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, ofc you should call
[17:06] <rjharrison> Hey
[17:06] <rjharrison> I'm back
[17:06] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, cbaa
[17:06] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, i'll go get the phone then -.-
[17:08] <rjharrison> MikeMc You can come and watch sure
[17:09] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, can you just create a new email and send it to me?
[17:10] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, done
[17:11] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, good. The one you sent yesterday w an attachment joined the toher two in refusing to d/l#
[17:11] <DanielRichman> whereas that one was fine
[17:11] <DanielRichman> maybe the conversation's jsut epic bugged out
[17:12] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it's busy :P
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[17:21] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, still busy :P
[17:24] <MikeMc> rjharrison: thanks
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[18:34] <Laurenceb> hi
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[18:44] <Laurenceb> so is anyone going to SEDS? or is it being "boycotted" after they screwed CUSF around?
[18:45] <rjharrison> SEDS?
[18:45] Action: Laurenceb is wonderibng about trying to get a refund
[18:45] <Laurenceb> http://www.space.co.uk/WhatsOn/Events/UKSEDS20thConference/tabid/604/Default.aspx
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[19:36] <Laurenceb> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?_r=4&pagewanted=all
[19:36] <Laurenceb> ^ wtf
[19:40] <sbasuita> Some scientists got bored waiting for the LHC...
[19:51] <natrium42> Laurenceb: what a bunch of BS
[19:52] <natrium42> why would it be expressed on a macro scale? if what they say is true then nature might as well not bother creating the particle at all
[19:54] <Laurenceb> yes its complete BS, but pretty funny
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[20:11] <Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/05/lhc_bread_bomb_dump_incident/
[20:13] <natrium42> OMG, so it is true!
[20:15] Action: Laurenceb isnt sure if they are serious
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[22:08] <jcoxon> Anyone seen the film UP ?
[22:09] <jcoxon> tis balloon related :-p
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[22:34] <SpeedEvil> So is Grosse Point blank.
[22:34] <SpeedEvil> (It has 99 red balloons on the soundtrack)
[22:48] <jcoxon> night all
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[23:49] <Laurenceb> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8344532.stm
[23:49] <Laurenceb> not sure about the looks
[23:50] <SpeedEvil> ...
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> And stamping is damn efficient
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> and low carbon
[23:52] <SpeedEvil> it's just hte dies are fucking expensive
[23:52] Action: Laurenceb has been reading about water jet cutters
[23:53] Action: SpeedEvil looks at his dissasembled pressure-washer.
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[23:56] <Laurenceb> you need about 600MPa
[23:56] <Laurenceb> anyway gtg
[23:57] <Laurenceb> cya
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[23:57] <SpeedEvil> I've used a stock pressure washer
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> oh
[23:57] <SpeedEvil> (though that was for polystyrene)
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