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[12:21] <rjharrison> SpeedEvil
[12:21] <rjharrison> I think the problem with the osc is a short to the case
[12:27] Action: SpeedEvil tries to recall.
[12:27] Action: SpeedEvil fails.
[12:29] <guysoft42> no, i mean its live
[12:29] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[12:29] <guysoft42> well, nearly apparently
[12:30] <guysoft42> ops worng channel
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[12:53] <MikeMc_> howdy
[13:00] <MikeMc_> weird
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[13:01] <rjharrison> the oscillator
[13:01] <rjharrison> SpeedEvil
[13:01] <rjharrison> Hovercraft were mentioned
[13:02] <SpeedEvil> yeah - i son't recall you saying anything about an osc - I mean
[13:02] <rjharrison> Oh no probs
[13:02] <rjharrison> I think i soldered the pin to the case
[13:02] <rjharrison> Had a chat with tech suppor
[13:02] <rjharrison> t
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[13:59] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[14:03] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:09] <Randomskk> hi
[14:09] <Randomskk> looool computing lab
[14:17] <edmoore> hi jcoxon
[14:18] <jcoxon> hey edmoore Randomskk SpeedEvil
[14:20] <edmoore> Randomskk: it doesn't get much better
[14:20] <Randomskk> edmoore: I've finished all the exercises for this term
[14:20] <Randomskk> in the first morning computing slot
[14:21] <Randomskk> now I get the rest of them free
[14:21] <SpeedEvil> Randomskk: :)
[14:21] <SpeedEvil> What were they?
[14:21] <SpeedEvil> (sort of thing)
[14:21] <Randomskk> a load of very rudimentary c++
[14:21] <Randomskk> basically c really
[14:22] <Randomskk> bit of file processing, then the final one was a monopoly simuation "how likely are you to land on a hotel on the first side of the board"
[14:22] <Randomskk> simulate two dice throws until you are clear, add up number of hotel hits, repeat a statistically significant number of times
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> Jesus
[14:22] <Randomskk> yea really
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> That seems not spectacularly difficult.
[14:22] <Randomskk> but the idea is to get people who have never programmed before to program in c++
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> Unless you have to do it in piet.
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:23] <Randomskk> consequentially yea it's far too easy for anyone who has actually done programming before
[14:23] <Randomskk> last time someone managed in one hour more than me
[14:23] <Randomskk> but so far this year I have the record :p
[14:24] <edmoore> wait until the microcontroller labs
[14:24] <Randomskk> lol yea
[14:24] <Randomskk> pic12f though
[14:24] <Randomskk> need to read over the instruction set for that
[14:24] <edmoore> is it?
[14:24] <Randomskk> edmoore: cusf meeting this thursday right?
[14:24] <edmoore> oh they've chaged it
[14:24] <Randomskk> did you have something better
[14:25] <edmoore> in my day it was a 6800 which you programmed with a hex numberpad
[14:25] <Randomskk> that is far far cooler
[14:25] <Randomskk> I get to write pic asm for an 8pin 12F
[14:25] <Randomskk> the lowest of the low in terms of pic mcus really
[14:26] <edmoore> i really enjoyed it. there's a sort of zen to writing out your program on a notepad and debugging it on paper
[14:26] <Randomskk> yea.
[14:26] <Randomskk> I'd much rather be doing that
[14:26] <edmoore> as fixing a bug usually meant a total re-program, which got boring for 200+ instruction programmes
[14:26] <Randomskk> heh
[14:27] <Randomskk> "kids these days" eh
[14:27] <edmoore> i am beginning to sound a bit like some of the older guys in this channel :)
[14:27] <Randomskk> hehe
[14:27] <Randomskk> but yea - cusf meeting on thursday?
[14:27] <edmoore> like steve tlling us about is bit-hacks on a pdp-8
[14:27] <edmoore> i think so yep
[14:28] <edmoore> not sure what's going to happen
[14:28] <Randomskk> could I bring a pcb along then, either before/after?
[14:28] <edmoore> sure
[14:28] <Randomskk> cool, thanks. do you have solder paste there or should I acquire some first?
[14:29] <edmoore> we've got some
[14:29] <edmoore> i'm not sure it's ever seen a ridge, but it should be ok
[14:29] <edmoore> fridge*
[14:29] <Randomskk> lol yup, mine sits in a parts box at home
[14:30] <Randomskk> I need to work out how I am gonna greenwire this vreg.. I designed it for a low power vreg with one pinout but the xbee pro needs a beefier vreg with the same footprint but totally different pinout
[14:30] <Randomskk> shit sucks
[14:30] <Randomskk> all the high power ones seem to share the same pinout
[14:30] <Randomskk> all the really low power and cheap ones share a pinout.. a different pinout
[14:30] <edmoore> i made that mistake on badger2
[14:31] <edmoore> the 1.8v reg is the same package is a 3.3v reg, but a different pinout
[14:31] <Randomskk> yup
[14:31] <Randomskk> such a pain
[14:31] <SpeedEvil> teeny bit of aluminium, and three wires
[14:31] <edmoore> one of the 376 reasons fergus didn't talk to me for several days
[14:31] <Randomskk> it's a sot23-5 package in this case
[14:31] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:31] <Randomskk> may see how close they are
[14:32] <Randomskk> it might be I can just hold a few pins above the pcb and manually rewire
[14:32] <Randomskk> it may be I don't populate the vreg and just have a separate one plug in
[14:38] <edmoore> right, irc is a bad idea for me right now. need to concentrate. catch you guys later
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[15:18] <MikeMc> evening
[15:18] <SpeedEvil> afternoon
[15:19] <MikeMc> that too
[15:43] <jcoxon> hey MikeMc
[15:43] <MikeMc> hey
[15:46] <jcoxon> hows it going?
[15:46] <jcoxon> any progress with your project?
[15:47] <MikeMc> only in so far as acquiring parts so far
[15:47] <MikeMc> so little spare time lately to do anything else
[15:47] <MikeMc> Hopefully this weekend will start some testing of teh RF modules
[15:49] <jcoxon> cool cool
[16:01] <jcoxon> i'm waiting on lots of orders
[16:01] <jcoxon> sometimes find the acquiring of parts takes the longest
[16:02] <jcoxon> especially with our delightful postal system
[16:06] <MikeMc> oh yes indeed
[16:06] <jcoxon> stupidly i've managed to make quite a few orders in the last week or so
[16:06] <jcoxon> so who knows when they'll arrive
[16:12] <rjharrison> hey jcoxon
[16:12] <rjharrison> Hows it going
[16:12] <rjharrison> I had a problem last night with the oscilator
[16:13] <rjharrison> but I think I had shorted the pins to the casing
[16:13] <rjharrison> I thought it would be fine but obv. not
[16:13] <rjharrison> I have a big roll of green wire now too :)
[16:14] <rjharrison> 100m which is more than lifetimes worth
[16:21] <MikeMc> orders from the US take about 5 times longer than those from China - crazy
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[16:21] <jcoxon> rjharrison, hehe
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[18:54] <SpeedEvil> hmm - venus GPS with logging http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28760
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[22:51] <rjharrison> hi all
[22:51] <rjharrison> Just finishing off the final bug fixes of Icarus III
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:52] <rjharrison> now I have done a few green wire fixes
[22:52] <rjharrison> :)
[22:52] <naxxfish> <3 green wire
[22:53] <rjharrison> yep
[22:53] <rjharrison> one
[22:53] <rjharrison> and there is another one to do but it's not important
[23:07] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:07] <jcoxon> good work rjharrison
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[23:16] <Guest82364> Did anyone just catch that program on Channel 4 about flying car?
[23:16] Nick change: Guest82364 -> Cooleo
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[23:55] <MikeMc> howdy
[23:56] <Randomskk> hi
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