highaltitude.log.20090910

[00:29] Action: SpeedEvil fails at google.
[00:30] <SpeedEvil> Currently looking for the tensile strength of pure sulphuric acid at -100C or so.
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[08:32] <gordonjcp> SpeedEvil: that's a pretty unusual thing to look for
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[11:34] <SpeedEvil> I was looking to see if a knife made of pure vitriol could in fact work.
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[12:46] <SpeedEvil> Random. http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx - can anyone look at ky76la for me?
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> I have just got a dongle and it's not working - and I want to know if I'm on the edge of 3g coverage - so sticking it on the chimney might work
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> - it doesn't work with firefox
[13:29] <Laurenceb> I cant see it either
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> nvm
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> it seems it works with IE and 'netscape' - on windows or mac - and little else
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> _so_ broken
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[14:43] <junderwood> works with chrome.
[14:43] <junderwood> Your coverage sucks
[14:43] <SpeedEvil> meh.
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> voda actually have a decent package - 15 quid for a gig
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> and it doesn't expire
[14:44] <junderwood> KY7 6LA has variable outdoor 3G reception
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> yeah. I haven't found a spot int he garden with coverage.
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> I need to check on a 5m pole.
[14:45] <SpeedEvil> I don't suppose it gives coordinates of towers?
[14:48] <junderwood> No. You could try http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/
[14:51] <junderwood> zoom in to 100m, click on the mast and it tells you who owns it
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> Ah yes
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> That stupid damn site
[14:56] <SpeedEvil> Or maybe it's improved
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> Nope - broken by design
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> It's astonishingly less than yseful if you're un a rural area where the base stations may be several kilometers away
[15:48] <Laurenceb> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25541021@N00/3895429285/sizes/o/
[15:48] <Laurenceb> lol @ last one
[15:56] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[16:12] <AlexBreton> sbasuita, gonna order 2 sheets of Celotex
[16:13] <sbasuita> AlexBreton, cool
[16:13] <AlexBreton> I think it;s 8foot by 6 foot
[16:13] <AlexBreton> not sure though
[16:15] <Laurenceb> for enclosures?
[16:15] <Laurenceb> personally I'd use blue foam
[16:16] <Laurenceb> if you peel off the alu foil backing from celotex, the foam quality inside is rather poor
[16:16] <Laurenceb> lots of bubbles and defects
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> 8 foot by 4
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> (typically)
[16:22] <SpeedEvil> wander along to your local B@Q/homebase/...
[16:25] <AlexBreton> yeah ordering it from an insulation shop in town
[16:25] <AlexBreton> no DIY store stocks it
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> I'd offer you some - but I think traveling would kinda kill the bargain :)
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> OTOH - mail me a balloon capable of lifting it - and I'll set it off when the winds are favorable.
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[17:12] <AlexBreton> lol
[17:12] <AlexBreton> gonna call the store
[17:12] <AlexBreton> how much does a sheet of celotex cost?
[17:13] <SpeedEvil> 20 quid ish for a 50mm*1220*2440mm sheet
[17:13] <AlexBreton> OK
[17:14] <AlexBreton> it comes in 8x4 feet
[17:14] <SpeedEvil> Also - you're happy with broken bits
[17:14] <AlexBreton> he doesn't stock any normally
[17:14] <AlexBreton> going to order from a supplier
[17:14] <AlexBreton> so no broken bits ;-)
[17:14] <SpeedEvil> builders merchants will have
[17:14] <AlexBreton> this guy is a builders merchant
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[17:15] <SpeedEvil> ah
[17:15] <DanielRichman> oh
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[17:22] <AlexBreton> sbasuita, shall I just order 2 sheets of Celotex
[17:22] <AlexBreton> or ask to find out the cost first
[17:22] <sbasuita> AlexBreton, cost first
[17:22] <AlexBreton> the guy says he will have to contact the supplier to get the cost
[17:23] <AlexBreton> ok
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[17:30] <natrium42_> hi ed
[17:31] <edmoore> hi natrium42_
[17:31] <edmoore> all well?
[17:31] <natrium42_> yep, what about you?
[17:33] <edmoore> not bad. messing with silicon mould
[17:33] <edmoore> sealing a new fill-tube assembly up
[17:33] <natrium42_> i have been attending grad school orientation
[17:34] <natrium42_> next week lectures start
[17:34] <edmoore> oh cool
[17:34] <edmoore> what's your course?
[17:34] <edmoore> (s)
[17:35] <natrium42_> i am taking 2 this term: mathematic foundations of networking and the second one is programming languages
[17:36] <natrium42_> then i also have to TA (teaching assistant) a 2nd year CS course
[17:38] <natrium42_> plus of course i should decide what to do thesis on...
[17:38] <natrium42_> edmoore: any progress with the rockoon?
[17:38] <edmoore> well the flight computer is coming along
[17:39] <edmoore> (badger2 on our flickr site)
[17:39] <edmoore> and there's a competition to launch in the US next year which we're aiming for
[17:39] <natrium42_> for altitude?
[17:39] <edmoore> natrium42_: any ideas on a thesis topic?
[17:39] <edmoore> for altitude yep
[17:39] <natrium42_> something with computer vision
[17:40] <natrium42_> perhaps improving some algorithm for fpga
[17:41] <edmoore> neat
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> natrium42: extracting 3D info out of live stereo video.
[17:44] <natrium42_> maybe :)
[17:44] <natrium42_> it's a wide and active field
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> Making 3d models from panoramic multiple overlapping cameras.
[17:45] Action: SpeedEvil keeps sort-of-designing a panoramic camera thing to mag-clamp to the top of a car for openstreetview
[17:45] <natrium42_> hehe, neat
[17:46] <natrium42_> similar to google street view?
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> yes
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> Hence the cunning name.
[17:46] <SpeedEvil> openstreetmaps I'm involved with.
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> I've said in the past I think the real reason for google streetview has nothing to do with the expressed reason.
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> It's so that they can run OCR packages and stuff over the imagery - and generate their own maps
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> So they can sotp paying teleatlas/... a mint for displaying them.
[17:48] <SpeedEvil> No reaon that couldn't work the same way for openstreetview/map
[17:48] <natrium42_> wouldn't it be easier to go with satellite imagery in that case?
[17:48] <natrium42_> just trace the roads
[17:48] <natrium42_> government provides the rest -- names etc
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> yes - but satellites are notably bad at the names.
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> Also - the government does not provide the names in most cases.
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> For example the UK governments national mapping agency got part-privitised.
[17:49] <natrium42_> i think they do here in canada
[17:49] <natrium42_> and likewise in USA
[17:49] <SpeedEvil> And you now can't use that data at all.
[17:50] <natrium42_> lame
[17:50] <SpeedEvil> Plus - with the right 'ocr' package you'd get lots more than just streetnames.
[17:50] <SpeedEvil> But all the signs too.
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[21:09] Nick change: ShellEvil -> SpeedEvil
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[21:26] <rjharrison_home> Evening all
[21:26] <rjharrison_home> Hope all is ticking allong
[21:26] <DanielRichman> tick tock
[21:26] <rjharrison_home> edmoore any news on possible launches?
[21:26] <SpeedEvil> Evening.
[21:26] <rjharrison_home> Hi sbasuita
[21:26] <rjharrison_home> opps :)
[21:26] <rjharrison_home> Hi SpeedEvil
[21:26] Action: SpeedEvil had two kiwi fruit this lunch. And a banana.
[21:27] <rjharrison_home> Healthy ... I had crap meeting room sandwitches
[21:27] <rjharrison_home> 2pts of coffee and lots of biscuits
[21:29] Action: SpeedEvil has just purchased 3 months worth of biscuits - and is trying to be good.
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[21:29] <rjharrison_> weird
[21:29] <SpeedEvil> tesco had mcvites digestives half price, so I got 18.
[21:29] <rjharrison_> did anyone else get kicked
[21:29] <SpeedEvil> nope
[21:30] <rjharrison_> No need for pahse correct pwm me thinks for servo control
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[22:21] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey
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[22:37] <fuzzylugnuts> my barebones computer for the ground station came today : )
[22:39] <SpeedEvil> :)
[22:39] <SpeedEvil> My 3G modem came today.
[22:39] Action: SpeedEvil still hasn't got it working.
[22:39] <fuzzylugnuts> Cool
[22:39] <fuzzylugnuts> awwwwwwwww
[22:40] <fuzzylugnuts> lemme know how it performs
[22:40] <SpeedEvil> I need to find some spot inside within 5m of my server which gets signal.
[22:40] <SpeedEvil> Ideally.
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[22:46] <fuzzylugnuts> I'd get rid of cable and landline phone if I knew more about 3g,
[22:46] <fuzzylugnuts> and it would have decent data rates
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> technicalities are irrelevant
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> look at your local telcos rates
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> I paid 15 quid for a gig - which doesn't time out - for my 3G modem.
[22:47] <fuzzylugnuts> its also that I don't get cell reception at my appartment
[22:47] <fuzzylugnuts> gig of upload/download?
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> For that same price per month - I get 30G - peak - and unlimited off-peak DSL
[22:47] <SpeedEvil> yes
[22:48] <fuzzylugnuts> hmm
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[22:49] <Laurenceb> hi
[22:49] <fuzzylugnuts> hey
[22:50] <fuzzylugnuts> SpeedEvil: looks like the dl speed is pretty darn good
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> fuzzylugnuts: the advertised speed may not be what you get - there are usually lots of caveats.
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> hey
[22:52] <fuzzylugnuts> I was looking fourums of what people were getting
[22:52] <fuzzylugnuts> 500ish k
[22:53] <fuzzylugnuts> I'm thrilled if I get 100 to 200kbs download
[22:55] <Laurenceb> ooh ST have dual axis gyros now
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[23:34] <fuzzylugnuts> mm. rice.
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