highaltitude.log.20090516

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[07:02] <g1zvn> morning akawaka
[07:02] Nick change: g1zvn -> mc-
[07:02] <natrium42> yo mc-
[07:02] <mc-> evening
[07:02] <natrium42> PCBs shipped to me via fedex: 868740660323
[07:03] <natrium42> http://boxoh.com/?t=868740660323
[07:03] <natrium42> :)
[07:03] <mc-> that was quick
[07:03] <natrium42> yeah, although it seems to have taken a little over 48 hours
[07:03] <natrium42> but the pcbs weren't simple, so i don't complain
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[07:05] <mc-> what does your pcb do?
[07:07] <natrium42> it's classified, sorry :)
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[09:39] <jcoxon> morning
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[09:42] <rjharrison> Hi james
[09:42] <rjharrison> forgot to login
[09:43] <rjharrison> to IRC
[09:43] <rjharrison> been at it for a while
[09:43] <rjharrison> BTW morning all
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[15:29] <rjharrison> Haveing a forking nightmare
[15:30] <rjharrison> having
[15:33] Action: SpeedEvil is having a feeling like muscles have been replaced by wet noodle sort of day.
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[15:50] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[15:51] <edmoore> hi jcoxon
[15:53] <rjharrison> yo jam
[15:53] <rjharrison> yo jcoxon
[15:54] <edmoore> jam?
[15:54] <edmoore> jam coxon
[15:54] <edmoore> coxon preserve
[15:54] <jcoxon> hehe
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[18:05] <sbasuita> .seen Jon_APEX
[18:05] <herabot> Sorry, I haven't seen jon_apex around.
[18:07] <KingJ> Do you need him sbasuita?
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[18:08] <sbasuita> KingJ, was just wondering about gsm with the ericsson
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[18:08] <sbasuita> (if there was any further progress)
[18:08] <KingJ> I can always go yell at him to come in here and update you if you want
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[18:08] <sbasuita> KingJ, that would be cool
[18:09] <DanielRichman> KingJ, just out of curiosity while you're here, which IRC client do you use?
[18:09] <KingJ> mIRC, why?
[18:09] <DanielRichman> Just wondering why your nick keeps changing between kingj and KingJ
[18:10] <KingJ> DanielRichman: That's my BNC - it runs on one of my servers and keeps me connected to Freenode and other networks 24/7, the nick changing is just to indicate when I am/am not connected to it
[18:10] <DanielRichman> Ahh, I see
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[18:12] <KingJ> sbasuita: He's not online one any other messaging systems right now, but when I see him i'll let him know. I don't think any progress has been made though, he's been a bit busy (like all of us) over the past few days
[18:12] <sbasuita> No problem
[18:13] <KingJ> And since we're now on exam leave, probably no progress for the next month or so
[18:28] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, well. I have a few nokias and feel like trying to get FBUS working anyway... :)
[18:28] <DanielRichman> means that there will have to be some transistors to control which device gets the UART because FBUS is bidirectional
[18:28] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, what a pain
[18:28] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, however, I expect that noone will care if this phone dies horribly
[18:28] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, just find a phone that does at commands or buy a gsm module
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[18:28] <sbasuita> maybe get gprs as an added bonus
[18:29] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, have you seen how expensive gsm modules are?
[18:29] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, i linked you a 20 quid one!
[18:29] <sbasuita> inc shipping
[18:30] <DanielRichman> Yes but that one looks like a pain to use
[18:30] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, why?
[18:30] <DanielRichman> just because
[18:30] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, it comes with a nice ribbon cable as well
[18:30] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, exactly. Why does it need ALL THOSE PINS!
[18:30] <DanielRichman> that's crazy!
[18:30] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, you don't have to use all of them
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[18:30] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, the trimble has like eight
[18:30] <DanielRichman> but what are they for?
[18:30] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, extra features
[18:30] <sbasuita> l; )
[18:31] <DanielRichman> hmm
[18:31] <DanielRichman> I'm gonna go see if I can find the pinouts for this phone
[18:31] <DanielRichman> brb
[18:35] <DanielRichman> ah lol
[18:36] <DanielRichman> problem - the nokia 61100 has been replaced with a new model
[18:36] <DanielRichman> this one is the one I have: http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:nHZYFX5DEZqquM:http://www.mydigitallife.co.za/images/A%2520weekend%2520at%2520the%2520park/Mobile%2520Life/Nokia%25206110.jpg
[18:36] <DanielRichman> and this one is the new 6110: http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:kNgbvtKY3AuE9M:http://www.mobiilpluss.ee/pood/images/img_39041_nokia-6110_navigator.jpg
[18:38] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, seriously, AT commands are the way to go
[18:38] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, we've already implemented it all
[18:38] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, yes but we don't have an AT phone, do we?
[18:38] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, get a 20 quid module
[18:38] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, and we can upload gps co-ord to the tracker over gprs!
[18:39] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, £20 is not worth it. I have two Nokias here to play with
[18:39] <DanielRichman> brb
[18:41] <DanielRichman> It's 170 vs 84 grams! nokia 1100 wins
[18:43] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, come to think of it i have an ancient motorola that may do the trick
[18:43] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, but it is huge and weighs a tonne
[18:46] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, hmm
[18:46] <sbasuita> don't know about at commands though
[18:51] <DanielRichman> Hmm. Identified the pads I need to solder
[18:53] <sbasuita> Eurovision vs. Britains Got Talent
[18:53] <sbasuita> =/
[18:58] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it's multimeter time
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[18:59] <DanielRichman> hmm. the pin that pinouts.ru claims to be battery-GND is infact connected to the pin that it claims to be FBUS gnd - success
[19:00] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, go to the pisg stats page
[19:00] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, and search for sbasuita
[19:00] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, btw, I set up a cronjob
[19:00] <DanielRichman> rofl
[19:00] <DanielRichman> 1337 messages
[19:00] <DanielRichman> that will only last one day, so enjoy it
[19:02] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, how often do the logs get copied?
[19:02] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, each morning, six o'clock. that's when the channel is most idle. Pisg gets updated then too
[19:02] <DanielRichman> well
[19:02] <DanielRichman> five o clock technically (UTC).
[19:02] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, should do the logs more often - like every 5 mins
[19:03] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, it's not worth it.
[19:03] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, it is really
[19:03] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, say, your internet breaks for a few mins, you come back and want to know what you've missed in an interesting conversation
[19:03] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, so you ask someone
[19:03] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, it might not be important enough to ask someone
[19:04] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, processing the logs every 5 minutes is killing the plannet. All that carbon isn't worth it
[19:04] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, its just a bit of copypaste
[19:05] <DanielRichman> pisg isn't
[19:05] <sbasuita> DanielRichman, talking about the logs, not pisg!
[19:05] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, so you want the logs copied but not processed. hmm
[19:05] <DanielRichman> brb food.
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[20:06] <DanielRichman> hmm. sbasuita, decision time. Do I try to solder the Nokia 1100 or not?
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[20:20] <DanielRichman> sbasuita, ?
[20:21] Action: SpeedEvil passes DanielRichman a coin.
[20:21] <DanielRichman> Ooh! Money
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[20:59] <DanielRichman> hmm
[20:59] <DanielRichman> can one solder gold pads?
[21:00] <SpeedEvil> yes
[21:00] <DanielRichman> is it any more difficult than soldering anything else?
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> not really
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> as easy to solder as copper
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> IIRC in high reliability stuff, you should tin it, wick off the solder, and tin again a couple of times
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> the gold-tin intermetalliccs can be weak
[21:02] <DanielRichman> eugh
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> but for normal stuff, it doesn't matter
[21:02] <DanielRichman> ok
[21:02] <SpeedEvil> as it's reliable enough
[21:03] <DanielRichman> need a more powerful soldering iron!
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