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[01:25] <Laurenceb> http://jokesaboutatheists.com/images/non_atheist_bus.jpg
[01:34] <natrium42> Laurenceb, thank you for the oppor-tuna-ty to see this picture
[01:35] <natrium42> where have you sea-n it first?
[01:36] <natrium42> i am not putting you on the hook here
[01:36] <natrium42> ... ok that's enough :P
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[04:06] <Dan-K2VOL> hello
[04:57] <natrium42> hi Dan-K2VOL
[04:59] <Dan-K2VOL> Hi Natrium
[04:59] <Dan-K2VOL> Alexei
[04:59] <natrium42> sup?
[05:00] <Dan-K2VOL> just sent you an email actually, some pretty heavy stuff is up actually
[05:00] Action: natrium42 checks emails
[05:03] <natrium42> hmm, ok
[05:03] <natrium42> sounds like a good plan
[05:04] <natrium42> we postponed our launch to the fall anyway
[05:06] <Dan-K2VOL> cool
[05:07] <Dan-K2VOL> we also had a very nice detailed description of the PBH system
[05:07] <Dan-K2VOL> they are going to release all their plans and data shortly
[05:08] <Dan-K2VOL> and I'll tell you what the best part is going to be - they have an apparently highly accurate calculator that will tell you exactly how much ballast to drop to make a desired change in altitude
[05:08] <natrium42> awesome, finally some openness :)
[05:10] <Dan-K2VOL> :-)
[05:11] <Dan-K2VOL> well, I gotta head to bed, I'll email again later with meeting time suggestions. Also, do you know who in the UK groups might want to represent their long duration efforts?
[05:12] <Dan-K2VOL> it appears that the FAA and NAV CANADA will be talking with the regulatory folks over there too
[05:13] <natrium42> CAA in UK
[05:13] <natrium42> (Civil Aviation Authority)
[05:13] <natrium42> http://www.caa.co.uk
[05:14] <Dan-K2VOL> oh, I just meant who personally in the amateurs we know on here
[05:14] <natrium42> oh
[05:14] <natrium42> most of this channel
[05:15] <natrium42> did you include james coxon?
[05:16] <Dan-K2VOL> no, let me see if I have his address
[05:16] <natrium42> James Coxon --> jacoxon at googlemail.com, Ed Moore --> eam52 at cam.ac.uk
[05:16] <natrium42> Steve Randall --> steve at btinternet.com
[05:17] <natrium42> include those please :)
[05:17] <natrium42> i am sure i have missed somebody
[05:18] <Dan-K2VOL> Ok, will do, are they in the same group or multiple ones?
[05:20] <natrium42> there doesn't seem to be hard defines
[05:20] <natrium42> UKHAS, i guess
[05:21] <natrium42> although Ed is also in CUSF (Cambridge University Space Flight)
[05:21] <natrium42> might be good to include university based groups
[05:21] <Dan-K2VOL> do you know any other than cornell that have LDB intentions?
[05:23] <natrium42> only Bill Brown
[05:27] <Dan-K2VOL> ok, he's covered
[05:29] <natrium42> coolz
[06:04] <Dan-K2VOL> whats your last name Alexei?
[06:11] <natrium42> Karpenko
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[09:11] <rjharrison> Morning ed
[09:11] <rjharrison> Exams over yet?
[09:11] <edmoore> morning!
[09:12] <edmoore> last one tomorrow morning
[09:12] <rjharrison> Then freedom for a while?
[09:15] <edmoore> until monday, yeah :)
[09:15] <edmoore> projects start then
[09:15] <edmoore> but they're interesting and not too stressful
[09:15] <edmoore> got to design and build an image compression algorithm
[09:17] <rjharrison> Humm why there are plenty outthere
[09:20] <edmoore> as in, for the project
[09:21] <edmoore> i think it's for the learning experience rather than for making a commercial product :)
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[10:07] <edmoore> good morning trialex
[10:07] <trialex> hey hows it going
[10:09] <edmoore> well, thank you
[10:09] <edmoore> and you?
[10:09] <trialex> OK
[10:19] <edmoore> interested in high altitude ballooning?
[10:35] <trialex> yeah. never done anything like it, but been planning it all out for the last month. Still stuck on the comms though - just can't find that magical combination of long range & low price & licence free
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[11:30] <SpeedEvil> 433MHz radiometrix modules
[11:30] <SpeedEvil> 20 quiddish
[11:30] <SpeedEvil> 10mW
[11:31] <SpeedEvil> do >100 miles with a good reciever
[11:39] <trialex> really? licence free?
[11:45] <SpeedEvil> yes
[11:45] <SpeedEvil> Though only from the balloon, at around 50bps
[11:45] <SpeedEvil> which is fine for telemetry so you can find it as it comes down
[11:47] <trialex> sweet - will check it out
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[13:29] <Laurenceb> yello
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[13:45] <SpeedEvil> lo
[13:45] Action: SpeedEvil has been strimming.
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> 200m^2 of rough grass/... or so
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[14:10] <SpeedEvil> On?
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[14:16] <Laurenceb> radio occultation
[14:19] Action: SpeedEvil wonders if radio occultation studies of venus and mars have been done
[14:19] <SpeedEvil> mercury, not mars
[14:22] <Laurenceb> they have
[14:22] <Laurenceb> in the 1960s
[14:22] <SpeedEvil> I suppose it's easier than the radar ones that were also done
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[14:37] <rjharrison> Looks like PBH is shelved for a while
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[15:17] <zsircusr1> Dan-K2VOL
[15:18] <zsircusr1> saw you were saying pbh are going to tell the world about their design?
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[15:30] <rjharrison> hey
[15:30] <rjharrison> some interesting balloon info here
[15:30] <rjharrison> http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IMOP/publications/IOM-94-TECO2006/P2(10)_Cheruiyot_Kenya.pdf
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[17:53] <sbasuita> So the whole UKHAS is connecting via a server in Washington.....
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[18:02] <jcoxon> hey all
[18:02] <jcoxon> hey Dan-K2VOL
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[18:09] <jcoxon> hey all
[18:10] <jcoxon> am now on my ndq
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[18:18] <sbasuita> jcoxon, android?
[18:18] <jcoxon> yup
[18:19] <jcoxon> but my irc client is crap and died
[18:19] <jcoxon> so back on my laptop
[18:19] <sbasuita> jcoxon, what phone?
[18:19] <jcoxon> HTC magic on vodafone
[18:20] <natrium42> laptop > phone
[18:20] <jcoxon> :-)
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[19:16] <edmoore> Dan-K2VOL: hi
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[20:05] <sprizouts> heyo
[20:06] <sbasuita> sprizouts, evening
[20:10] <edmoore> hi sprizouts
[20:13] <sprizouts> does anyone have a good source for tether line?
[20:14] <sprizouts> im having trouble finding anything longer than 1000'
[20:15] <edmoore> i wouldn't know where to go for 1000' i'm afriad
[20:15] <edmoore> direct to a manufacturer perhaps
[20:15] <sprizouts> seems so
[20:15] <sprizouts> 1000' is a bit..
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[21:12] <Laurenceb> hi folks
[21:12] <Laurenceb> someone put a chair leg through my laptop power supply :-/
[21:12] <edmoore> bastards
[21:13] <Laurenceb> managed to bodge it
[21:13] <Laurenceb> what time will you be over tomorrow?
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[21:30] <Laurenceb> edmoore: ?
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[21:31] <jcoxon> hey all
[21:32] <edmoore> Laurenceb: 13.30
[21:32] <Laurenceb> cool, just after lunch
[21:32] <Laurenceb> come earlier if you want some food
[21:33] <Laurenceb> - lunch is from 12 to 1.30
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[21:34] <edmoore> exam finishes at 10.30
[21:34] <edmoore> then will probably get destructions on how to get there from tinterweb
[21:34] <Laurenceb> lol you have a busy time
[21:35] <edmoore> then may have a celebratory orange juice
[21:35] <Laurenceb> good luck
[21:35] Action: Laurenceb rigs up his UM12 module
[21:40] <edmoore> ta
[21:40] <edmoore> bbiab
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[21:47] <natrium42> yo
[21:49] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[21:49] <natrium42> hi james
[21:50] <natrium42> how are you?
[21:50] <jcoxon> good thanks
[21:50] <jcoxon> been playing with my android phone
[21:50] <jcoxon> much grab
[21:50] <jcoxon> oops
[21:50] <jcoxon> might grab the SDK
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[21:52] <natrium42> cool
[21:53] <natrium42> do you have an atmega2560?
[21:53] <jcoxon> nope
[21:53] <natrium42> i sent you the microsd slot and 4MHz crystal, but not the MCU itself...
[21:53] <natrium42> perhaps i should have
[21:53] <jcoxon> nah i'll order some
[21:53] <jcoxon> its okay
[21:53] <natrium42> kk
[21:54] <natrium42> you have a flux pen, right? :P
[21:54] <jcoxon> yes
[21:54] <natrium42> good good
[21:55] <jcoxon> might take me a few weeks to put everything together
[21:55] <jcoxon> i've pretty much finished my Atlas payload
[21:55] <jcoxon> just need to update my code
[21:56] <Laurenceb> do you have my level sensor?
[21:56] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, i have it still
[21:56] <Laurenceb> coolio
[21:56] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, going to fly a few flights before i look to installing it
[21:57] <Laurenceb> i see
[21:57] <jcoxon> want to get the other components working first
[22:00] <natrium42> Laurenceb, rogallo please, kthxbai
[22:00] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:00] <Laurenceb> yeah soon
[22:00] <natrium42> http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/052009/well_well_well.jpg
[22:00] <jcoxon> weather this weekend is rubbish
[22:01] <Laurenceb> hmm my Um12 says hello
[22:01] <Laurenceb> time for two x Um12
[22:01] <jcoxon> one good thing about my new phone is that my old phone is now available for flights
[22:02] <jcoxon> with onboard gps + python
[22:02] <natrium42> ooh
[22:03] <jcoxon> and the code is already in place :-p
[22:03] <jcoxon> its not light
[22:03] <jcoxon> but it'll do the job just fine
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[22:04] <natrium42> syx66 was working on a program for android phone
[22:04] <natrium42> to launch it
[22:04] <jcoxon> :-)
[22:04] <jcoxon> not launching my android phone!
[22:04] <natrium42> come on!
[22:04] <jcoxon> no way
[22:04] <natrium42> it would be a great publicity stunt!
[22:05] <natrium42> you'd get on slashdot, reddit and (eww) digg
[22:05] <jcoxon> my nokia naviagator will be just fine
[22:05] <jcoxon> i like my android phone
[22:05] <natrium42> zip tie some teddy bears to it for added effect :D
[22:06] <jcoxon> natrium42, oooo i can use POST on my nokia to actually upload directly to the DL system :-p
[22:06] <natrium42> neat
[22:06] <natrium42> cheaper than sms?
[22:07] <jcoxon> ummm not sure
[22:08] <sbasuita> jcoxon, so when you dual-booting debian?
[22:10] <jcoxon> hehe, i'm not sure thats been proven on the new model
[22:12] <natrium42> why not ubuntu?
[22:13] <natrium42> actually ubuntu is an african word for "can't install debian"
[22:14] <sbasuita> natrium42, 1) Cause I've heard people have actually installed debian on android phones 2) -.-
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[22:17] <Laurenceb> yesss
[22:17] <Laurenceb> my Um12 modules are talking
[22:18] Action: Laurenceb ponders sticking a UM12 on the rogallo
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[22:57] <jcoxon> hey Dan-K2VOL
[22:57] <Dan-K2VOL> hi jcoxon, I appear to have left the IRC running all day!
[22:57] <jcoxon> hehe yes you were around :-)
[22:58] <natrium42> Dan-K2VOL, pfft, i do that every day :)
[22:58] <Dan-K2VOL> lol
[22:58] <Dan-K2VOL> ni natrium
[22:58] <Dan-K2VOL> hi
[22:58] <natrium42> hello
[23:04] <natrium42> any consensus on the time yet?
[23:06] <Dan-K2VOL> not yet, I'll give people till 9PM tonight, but it's looking like the last sunday slot so far. You can click the link again and check the progress
[23:07] <natrium42> ah, cool
[23:07] <natrium42> yeah, the problem with the brits is that their timezone is much different to ours
[23:09] <jcoxon> hmmm, its our timezone system!
[23:09] <jcoxon> :-p
[23:09] <Dan-K2VOL> it appears that between 11am and 2PM eastern time people are all still awake from the west coast north america to UTC
[23:09] <natrium42> jcoxon, :P
[23:14] Nick change: KingJ -> kingj
[23:15] Dan-K2VOL (n=dbowen1@74-132-3-136.dhcp.insightbb.com) left #highaltitude.
[23:20] <Laurenceb> hmm
[23:20] Action: Laurenceb ponders UM12 mailbox
[23:21] <Laurenceb> my solar panel was putting out 50ma @ 8V earlier (very cloudy weather)
[23:25] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQvFmtmXc8
[23:26] <Laurenceb> "two camels one car"
[23:45] <Laurenceb> haha theres a #sparkfun channel
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