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[08:40] <rhjharrison> .
[08:40] <rhjharrison> Morning all
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[11:16] <edmoore> god morning everyone
[11:16] <shellevil> morning
[11:16] Action: shellevil tries to get up the energy to go into the attic.
[11:17] <shellevil> Too high altitude.
[11:24] <edmoore> :)
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[11:27] <g1zvn> very quiet here...
[11:28] <gordonjcp> g1zvn: morning
[11:29] <g1zvn> its mc_
[11:29] <g1zvn> mroning
[11:30] <g1zvn> heard any sats recently?
[11:30] <gordonjcp> not really, haven't had a lot of time recently
[11:31] <g1zvn> ru using digital or analog modes?
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[11:40] <gordonjcp> what's ru, in context?
[11:42] <edmoore> are you
[11:42] <edmoore> it is quiet here this morning
[11:42] <gordonjcp> oh
[11:42] <edmoore> i want to try and run the cambridge 70cm repeater with jcoxon - i have a feeling with a yagi he might just be able to reach it
[11:42] <gordonjcp> why not just say "are you" then?
[11:43] <gordonjcp> edmoore: antennas are the key ;-)
[11:43] <edmoore> he has both height and a yagi
[11:45] <gordonjcp> how far is it?
[11:45] <edmoore> 60 miles?
[11:46] <edmoore> but there might be some tall building in the way - don't actually know precisely what his view is
[11:51] <gordonjcp> okay
[11:51] <gordonjcp> that's quite a stretch for 70cm, unless he's got pretty good line of sight
[11:52] <edmoore> yeah
[11:52] <edmoore> and fm
[11:52] <edmoore> though the repeater antenna is pretty high
[11:52] <edmoore> I hope he might here me anyway
[11:52] <edmoore> natrium42: ping
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[12:01] <gordonjcp> funny thing, I can get into the furthest away repeater more easily than any of the closer ones from my mate Kyle's house
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[13:41] <Jcoxon> Hey all
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[14:40] <Laurenceb> no pbh3 ?
[14:51] <edmoore> no
[14:51] <edmoore> postponed indef
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[14:53] <AlexBreton> just dug up a whole load of more bones
[14:53] <Laurenceb> grave rading?
[14:54] <AlexBreton> animal grave raiding
[14:54] <Laurenceb> or were you too late for the mung diving
[14:54] <Hiena> Found my stash?
[14:54] <AlexBreton> I have a working joint
[14:54] <AlexBreton> forearm I think
[14:54] <AlexBreton> and a jaw with some teeth still left on it
[14:54] <AlexBreton> cat size
[14:55] <AlexBreton> or very very large rat
[14:55] <Hiena> I have two catskull, and a bag of other large bones.
[14:55] <AlexBreton> where did you get them?
[14:55] <Hiena> Even i had two complete soviet soldier, but i had to gave back.
[14:56] <Hiena> Collecting bones so long.
[14:56] <AlexBreton> ah
[14:56] <AlexBreton> so far I have a whole variety of small and little bones
[14:56] <AlexBreton> got a vertebra in there somewhere
[14:56] <Hiena> The soldiers was dug up, when i made the basement storage.
[14:57] <AlexBreton> a soviet soldier in your basement?
[14:57] <Hiena> Yup. My house was near a tactical point in the WWII and has several unmarked graves.
[14:58] <AlexBreton> which country is that in?
[14:58] <AlexBreton> germany?
[14:58] <AlexBreton> eastern europe?
[14:58] <Hiena> Hungary.
[14:58] <AlexBreton> aha
[14:58] <AlexBreton> mine seem to be all animal bones
[14:58] <AlexBreton> and in no order at all
[14:58] <AlexBreton> may have been a trash heap or something
[14:59] <AlexBreton> the only 2 bones that correspond are the ones in the joint
[14:59] <AlexBreton> which still works, incidentally =)
[14:59] <Hiena> It was a millitary supply point. I had to stop 4 weeks long until the police, bomb squad and archelogist finished the digging.
[15:00] <AlexBreton> haha
[15:00] <AlexBreton> been wondering whether to call the police here
[15:00] <AlexBreton> but it's just an old trash heap
[15:01] <AlexBreton> maybe the vet can help ;-)
[15:02] <AlexBreton> what tools did you use for digging, Hiena?
[15:06] <Hiena> The joke is, when i called the police the sent to CSI guy, whom identified the bones are older than 25 year so there is nothing to do for them, but they found few pistol ammo and called the bomb squad, also they bagged the remains, and put in my workshop. One wwek later athe bomb squad came, check the field, identified the ammo, and called the archeologists because the scene could be connected to an historical event. Two week later four un
[15:06] <Hiena> interested archeologist arrived, checked the bones, dogtags, etc. and said, i could countinue the digging. The soldiers camped more than half year, when i got bored and called the russian embassy. They came within two days, and takes the remains....
[15:07] <Hiena> I use pickave and shovel.
[15:07] <Hiena> Khm...pickaxe...
[15:11] <Hiena> Later got a mail from the embassy, where they thank my help, because NOBODY informed them on the official way.
[15:11] <shellevil> Lucky russia diddn't invade, as it's clearly russian territory - it has russians in it.
[15:12] Action: shellevil thinks there are no (humans) buried on his property.
[15:12] <shellevil> goats, yes.
[15:14] <gordonjcp> I know (approximately) where a human is buried on my neighbour's property
[15:14] <gordonjcp> a very long time ago, there were some men carrying a coffin to the church
[15:14] <gordonjcp> but it got dark, and very stormy and unpleasant
[15:14] <gordonjcp> so they dug a hole and buried the chap pretty much where they were
[15:15] <gordonjcp> maybe 80 or 90 years ago
[15:16] <Hiena> Well, i have a strong guess where should be more bodies, because this two was same distance one by one, and the second was at the edge of the foundation, so if i draw the line the next must to be around 50 or 80 centimeter out of the basement.
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[15:17] <Hiena> But i really have no intent to find this out.
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[15:25] <AlexBreton> mm-I used a high-pressure jet of water
[15:25] <AlexBreton> disadvantage is that I have to bail the water out of the hole
[15:32] <Hiena> Jet digging is nice thing, but makes a really big mess. But good way to did wells, or long vetical shafts.
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[15:39] <shellevil> pressure-washer + wet/dry vac
[15:40] <Laurenceb> until you hit a rock
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[15:42] <AlexBreton> it has the advantage of not damaging the bones
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[15:56] <jcoxon> hey all
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[15:59] <jcoxon> anyone worked out why PBH was postponed?
[16:09] <jcoxon> very strange that they postponed it - was up for a bit of tracking
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[17:17] <AlexBreton> jcoxon, you here?
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[17:18] <AlexBreton> I found a whole load of bones =)
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[17:22] <jcoxon> hey AlexBreton
[17:22] <jcoxon> yeah
[17:22] <AlexBreton> loads more today
[17:22] <AlexBreton> including a still-working joint
[17:23] <jcoxon> oooo interesting
[17:23] <AlexBreton> also a jaw bone
[17:23] <AlexBreton> with remnants of teeth
[17:23] <AlexBreton> looks like it belonged to a cat or small dog
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[17:25] <Laurenceb> thats what she said
[17:34] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, oh dear
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[17:39] <Laurenceb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQtyJZhV2lQ
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[17:59] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[17:59] <edmoore> hi jcoxon
[17:59] <edmoore> i am just about to eat - you around later?
[17:59] <jcoxon> uhuh
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[18:00] <edmoore> cool
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[19:21] <edmoore> evening all
[19:21] <natrium42> ello edmoore
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[19:26] <edmoore> natrium42: yo
[19:26] <edmoore> so
[19:27] <edmoore> you've probs spotted, but I say google charts
[19:27] <edmoore> http://code.google.com/apis/chart/types.html
[19:27] <edmoore> might make a nice addition to the tracker
[19:27] <edmoore> especially for trans
[19:27] <edmoore> can do <foo>-o-meters where foo = voltage, ballast or whatever
[19:27] <edmoore> or temp v time
[19:27] <edmoore> or whatever - i'm sure you can imagine
[19:27] <Laurenceb> pcharts ftw
[19:28] <Laurenceb> but yeah ballast and voltage would be kind of nice
[19:28] <natrium42> cool, will take a look
[19:28] <natrium42> bbl
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[19:45] <edmoore> Laurenceb: what's up?
[19:46] <Laurenceb> not much
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[19:46] <Laurenceb> will you be around on thrusday afterwards?
[19:47] <edmoore> I don't know what time I'll be finished
[19:47] <edmoore> but poss
[19:47] <edmoore> going to have dinner at home with family
[19:48] <Laurenceb> fairdoos
[19:48] <Laurenceb> I was thinking about getting the AD IMU
[19:50] <Laurenceb> are there any plans for a guided rocket?
[19:57] <natrium42> noooooo
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[20:00] <shellevil> guided rocket makes some authorities nervous :)
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[20:01] <shellevil> Legitimately in many ways - imagine the rockets coming out of palestine having a 10m CEP
[20:02] Action: shellevil has been putting down membrane round raspberries.
[20:02] <shellevil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14560445@N08/3497821950/
[20:02] <gordonjcp> shellevil: with a big sticker on the nose saying "we're not about to put with Israel's shit much longer"?
[20:03] <shellevil> I'm not saying either side in that conflict is right.
[20:03] <shellevil> Both are pretty fucked up.
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[20:05] <Laurenceb> well its pretty easy to make really
[20:05] <shellevil> yes
[20:05] <Laurenceb> if they can persuade analogue to sell them some kit :P
[20:05] <shellevil> you can get enormous gains by even 2 axis stabilisation
[20:06] <Laurenceb> FAO Hammas....
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[20:08] <edmoore> enough missile talk chapses
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[20:30] <sbasuita> Anything interesting happen over the weekend?
[20:31] <edmoore> not really
[20:31] <edmoore> pbh postpoened indefinitely
[20:31] <edmoore> i though about lots of stuff a lot - which is not very helpful to anyone
[20:31] <sbasuita> edmoore, it is if you write it down
[20:32] <edmoore> = time = not during exam season
[20:33] <sbasuita> = :(
[20:38] <edmoore> you?
[20:49] <sbasuita> no, just generally
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[21:05] <Laurenceb> http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/30035/1241035778/thumb.icke.jpg <- rofl
[21:06] <natrium42> chemtrails, lol
[21:09] <Laurenceb> http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/13/1241125360/ickerobots.jpg
[21:10] <natrium42> haha
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[22:19] <jcoxon> hey all
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[22:24] <Laurenceb> http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20070026249_2007023714.pdf
[22:24] <Laurenceb> ^ interesting paper - apparently the x38 had L/D of ~3
[22:24] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, if you were to suggest a micro for me to start learning for ballooning what would it be?
[22:24] <Laurenceb> avr
[22:25] <Laurenceb> did you really need to ask :P
[22:25] <jcoxon> well i'm wondering if you'd say ARM
[22:25] <Laurenceb> not for beginning
[22:26] <jcoxon> and PICs?
[22:26] <jcoxon> as they have quite nice features
[22:27] <Laurenceb> avrs are easy to work wiht in osx
[22:28] <jcoxon> is there away to read a gps on serial without missing sentences?
[22:28] <Laurenceb> what with?
[22:28] <jcoxon> avr
[22:29] <Laurenceb> sure
[22:29] <jcoxon> as in read sentences but also do stuff
[22:29] <Laurenceb> yeah
[22:29] <Laurenceb> use a buffer
[22:30] <jcoxon> then read the buffer when you get round to it
[22:30] <jcoxon> hmmm okay
[22:30] <Laurenceb> 256 byte buffers are easy
[22:34] <Laurenceb> have a u08 tail and head
[22:35] <Laurenceb> uart interrupt sticks data at the head, then increments head
[22:35] <Laurenceb> stdin is attacked to a function that reads from tail then increments tail
[22:36] <Laurenceb> you use a file stream to do that
[22:36] <Laurenceb> then scanf should work
[22:41] <jcoxon> interesting
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[22:43] <Laurenceb> see avr freaks for proper details
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[23:03] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[23:03] <edmoore> hi
[23:03] <edmoore> off to bed, sorry
[23:03] <edmoore> zam tomorrow morning
[23:03] <jcoxon> oh okay
[23:03] <jcoxon> good luck
[23:03] <jcoxon> they are mean - on a bank holiday
[23:04] <edmoore> since when has cambridge ever recognised the existance of a bank holiday?
[23:04] <SpeedEvil> good luck!
[23:06] <jcoxon> its a good point
[23:06] <jcoxon> cambridge exists outside normal time/space
[23:14] <Laurenceb> good luck
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[23:26] <jcoxon> i want a reprap machine
[23:34] <natrium42> jcoxon, hehe
[23:35] <natrium42> i had a part fabbed using those professional 3d printers
[23:35] <natrium42> a few weeks ago
[23:36] <jcoxon> soo cool
[23:37] <jcoxon> right i'm off to bed night all
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[23:37] <natrium42> psh, i wanted to link him to a pic
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[23:47] <SpeedEvil> what was it?
[23:48] Action: SpeedEvil has been looking at shapeways for a while
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