highaltitude.log.20090429

[00:02] <stilldavid> gordonjcp would they get hot enough to melt a nylon cord?
[00:02] <shellevil> yes
[00:02] <shellevil> read the spec sheets of some small ceramic power resistors
[00:03] <shellevil> find one specified with a case temp of over your nylon cord
[00:03] <shellevil> though you can use a hot-melt cord too
[00:03] <gordonjcp> actually I meant more smashing them open and unwinding some nichrome
[00:03] <shellevil> oh
[00:04] Action: stilldavid is googling
[00:04] <shellevil> I've gone the rather simpler route of having them press against the string and heating them up with their specified maximum pulse power
[00:04] <stilldavid> I'm thinking of what I have laying around that I could crack open that might have one
[00:05] <shellevil> ebay
[00:05] <shellevil> :)
[00:05] <shellevil> got fishing stuff
[00:06] <stilldavid> okay, okay, I'll take the easy way out
[00:08] <stilldavid> wow, 170 feet in 5 sizes for $13 usd. can't beat that I guess
[00:10] <shellevil> from?
[00:10] <stilldavid> ebay
[00:10] <shellevil> ebay is great
[00:10] <shellevil> though can be addictive.
[00:10] <stilldavid> I got my flight camera on ebay - broken LCD
[00:11] <stilldavid> wasn't quite sure what to put for feedback, thoguh. "item came ... as described?"
[00:11] <stilldavid> :)
[00:13] <shellevil> I tend to go with 'As described, well packed, promptly shipped, would deal with again'.
[00:13] <shellevil> delete as appropriate.
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[06:49] <jcoxon> hey all
[06:52] <jcoxon> natrium42, seen the pbh website: http://courses2.cit.cornell.edu/sysen5960/
[06:55] <natrium42> yo
[06:56] <natrium42> cool
[06:56] <natrium42> yay frames :D
[06:56] <jcoxon> though frames!
[06:56] <jcoxon> quite good info about the flight
[06:56] <jcoxon> they finally listened
[06:56] <jcoxon> right time for work, cya
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[09:24] <Laurenceb> hi
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[13:01] <tty2> interesting channel
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[13:17] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[13:27] <edmoore> hi
[13:28] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[13:28] <jcoxon> hows it going?
[13:29] <edmoore> had a v good zam this morning
[13:29] <edmoore> tough one tomorrow
[13:29] <edmoore> u?
[13:29] <jcoxon> assisted in 2 c-sections
[13:30] <jcoxon> so not bad for a morning
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> Had any named after you yet?
[13:41] <edmoore> pbh has data up now
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9160 funky cheap SMPS
[13:41] <edmoore> no mention of the lockheed martin though....
[13:42] <jcoxon> i'm loving the frames on their website - old school
[13:43] <edmoore> :)
[13:43] <jcoxon> edmoore: i see you've offered yourself as a station
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> pbh website?
[13:43] <jcoxon> http://courses2.cit.cornell.edu/sysen5960/
[13:43] <jcoxon> (i guess its you from the location)
[13:44] <edmoore> have I?
[13:44] <jcoxon> maybe not then
[13:44] <jcoxon> on the map there is ham station 4
[13:44] <jcoxon> which is close to cam
[13:45] <edmoore> i did email the CUWS list
[13:45] <jcoxon> thought it might be you
[13:45] <jcoxon> oh okay - guess thats them
[13:46] <edmoore> could be a randomer
[13:46] <edmoore> i might try and lsiten though
[13:46] <edmoore> tomorrow after steve launches
[13:47] <jcoxon> i plan to try and rig up a system to listen in
[13:47] <jcoxon> try and get the client to work
[13:48] <jcoxon> good practice for other launches
[13:48] <jcoxon> hi tty2 welcome to #highaltitude
[13:48] <tty2> jcoxon: thanks
[13:49] <jcoxon> edmoore: they'll launch at 2am tomorrow morning, might catch something at dawn
[13:50] <edmoore> not a chance
[13:50] <edmoore> i'll be in bed
[13:50] <edmoore> then exam
[13:50] <edmoore> hi tty2
[13:50] <tty2> 'hi
[13:50] <jcoxon> i ain't listening then either!
[13:51] <tty2> ive beenwantin to build a fully self sustaining blimp run off a combanationof solar cells and fuel cells
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[13:51] <tty2> i have all the knwoedge to do it, not sure when ill get to actually building it though
[13:51] <jcoxon> tty2: oh wow, that sounds like quite a bit of work
[13:51] <tty2> jcoxon: im sure it will be
[13:52] <tty2> jcoxon: but sounds like fun
[13:52] <jcoxon> yeah
[13:52] <tty2> jcoxon: if i canmake themcheap enough i could even do a small fleet with mesh networking to stick together
[13:52] <jcoxon> very cool
[13:53] <jcoxon> :-) a swarm of blimps
[13:53] <tty2> jcoxon: should be ableto use the solar cells and rain water (or condensation) tocreate thehydrogen to keep it afloat (which will alsowork as fuel for the fuel cells)
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[14:07] <jcoxon> its amazing that there isn't a ham radio shop in london
[14:07] <SpeedEvil> jcoxon: wacky
[14:07] <SpeedEvil> jcoxon: I've got one in glenrothes
[14:07] <SpeedEvil> (pop 40k)
[14:08] <jcoxon> SpeedEvil: any progress with that radio?
[14:08] <jcoxon> as in theory the pbh launch is in its band range
[14:08] <SpeedEvil> I had another look at it - to check the component orientation and stuff
[14:08] <SpeedEvil> I'm going to do some more in-detail work on it tonight
[14:08] <SpeedEvil> still no audio gain
[14:11] <jcoxon> strange that you get nothing
[14:12] <SpeedEvil> I've had annoyingly little time to work on it
[14:12] <SpeedEvil> Most of my time is taken up with trying to get on top of the 500m^2 or so of garden, before stuff starts thinking about seeding.
[14:12] <SpeedEvil> Otherwise I'm gonna have to glyphosate the whole damn lot.
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> And fixing important stuff like leaky windows.
[14:13] <jcoxon> fair enough
[14:13] <SpeedEvil> Took out about 40Kg of garlic mustard
[14:14] <SpeedEvil> Which is a garlicky-mustard smelling plant, unsurprisingly enough.
[14:14] <SpeedEvil> (today)
[14:16] <jcoxon> :-)
[14:22] <jcoxon> i don't think my long wire is going to be good enough for tracking PBH
[14:33] <edmoore> no
[14:33] <edmoore> i have had the same mental convo
[14:38] <jcoxon> concerning my ground wire or yours? :-)
[14:39] <edmoore> mine :)
[14:39] <edmoore> i don't really want to go to the cuws shack
[14:39] <jcoxon> what sort of radiation do they have
[14:39] <edmoore> it doesn't have internet
[14:39] <jcoxon> as mine runs NW->SE
[14:39] <jcoxon> over my roof
[14:40] <jcoxon> i've also been reading the practical antenna handbook - i think i need more radials and they need to be shorter
[14:41] <jcoxon> ed get some wire, a tennis ball and lob it over a tree near you?
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[15:02] <jcoxon> oh well, no need to worry now - launch has been postponed
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[15:15] <edmoore> jcoxon: they've got a good stream if they try for sunday
[15:15] <edmoore> would be interested to see what hysplit makes of it
[15:16] <jcoxon> indeed it would - shall run hysplit when i get home this evening
[15:23] <jcoxon> cya
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[16:59] <edmoore> GCSE Maffia arrives
[17:02] <sbasuita> edmoore, it's mafia to you >_>
[17:02] <edmoore> i give up
[17:02] <edmoore> back to work
[17:19] <rjharrison> Is there any reason why long duration flights are always in the JS can we do them at say 28km
[17:44] <edmoore> they are not
[17:46] <edmoore> but take a look at the 3rd figure on this page http://www.ux1.eiu.edu/~cfjps/1400/atmos_struct.html
[17:46] <edmoore> you're more thermally stable at 12-20km
[17:47] <edmoore> but they can be whereever
[17:47] <edmoore> the only long duration jet stream ones tend also to want to cross the atlantic
[17:53] <SpeedEvil> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/28/mid-afternoon-kitty.html
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[17:56] <hallam> hey chaps
[17:56] <hallam> who's flying tomorrow?
[18:17] <rjharrison> steve
[18:21] <rjharrison> hallam you going to log on the radio?
[18:24] <rjharrison> Off to build a beacon.
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[18:30] <Laurenceb> hi folks
[18:30] <hallam> hi Laurenceb
[18:31] Action: Laurenceb is at CEOI'09
[18:31] <Laurenceb> hallam: you back in cambridge?
[18:32] <hallam> yep
[18:32] <hallam> what's CEOI?
[18:32] <Laurenceb> center for earth observation instrumentation
[18:33] <hallam> ok
[18:33] <Laurenceb> I'm at the annual conference in Coventry
[18:33] <hallam> fun?
[18:34] <Laurenceb> just saw some cool stuff from SELEX
[18:35] <Laurenceb> 3D color rendered wireframes on prople on a fishing boat taken with a MEMS LIDAR
[18:35] <Laurenceb> - from 20Km away
[18:35] <hallam> nice
[18:36] <Laurenceb> also false colour with camouflage paint detection ect
[18:38] <Laurenceb> they also created a wireframe of Edinburgh castle
[18:42] <Laurenceb> hallam: have you seen the http://www.analog.com/en/mems-and-sensors/imems-gyroscopes/adis16405/products/product.html
[18:44] <hallam> ooh, magnetometer now
[18:44] <hallam> nice
[18:44] <Laurenceb> I'm tempted to get one
[18:44] <Laurenceb> need to get myself a scope really
[18:45] <hallam> oscilloscope?
[18:45] <hallam> you don't have one?
[18:45] <Laurenceb> but maybe I can afford both... :P
[18:45] <Laurenceb> yes
[18:45] <Laurenceb> no I dont have one
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[18:45] <hallam> gotta spend that stipend on something
[18:45] <hallam> Hi jcoxon
[18:45] <Laurenceb> hehe yeah
[18:45] <hallam> do you need another distributed listener tomorrow?
[18:46] <hallam> if not, I'll just occasionally listen in with truetty
[18:46] <jcoxon> hallam, the more the better
[18:46] <hallam> better tell me how to set up, then
[18:46] <hallam> I only have a whip and a scanner
[18:46] <hallam> ah crap
[18:46] <hallam> actually never mind, sorry
[18:46] <hallam> :(
[18:46] <Laurenceb> hallam: I was looking at the microchip dspic mathlib, its either rather slow or the avr lib is very fast - only 40% fewer clock cycles than the avr5 core
[18:47] <jcoxon> why won't that work?
[18:47] <hallam> soundcard in this laptop is useless for radio
[18:47] <hallam> Laurenceb: can't say I've ever actually tried to do any DSP with the dspic
[18:47] <Laurenceb> I have a scanner - but I'm in a hotel in Coventry atm and tomorrow :-/
[18:47] <jcoxon> hallam, you could try an online radio
[18:47] <jcoxon> loop it back into fldigi
[18:48] <hallam> nah I probably ought to revise
[18:48] <hallam> I don't think that would work, anyway
[18:48] <jcoxon> hehe sounds sensible
[18:48] <Laurenceb> hehe
[18:48] <Laurenceb> how long till exams?
[18:48] <jcoxon> its how i tracked the last pbh zp launch
[18:48] <jcoxon> worked very well
[18:48] <hallam> the soundcard, or its drivers, destroy anything coming on line in
[18:49] <hallam> I think it's supposed to be some clever auto noise cancelling or something like that
[18:49] <hallam> but it's crap for speech, and useless for radio
[18:49] <hallam> Laurenceb: 2 of 6 left, both on monday
[18:49] <Laurenceb> jcoxon: could you run a ground station for my next rogallo launch?
[18:49] <Laurenceb> good luck
[18:49] <Laurenceb> engineers have it really early?
[18:50] <hallam> yeah, in 3rd/4th year
[18:50] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, of course. if you presubmit a string in advance the DL system can be shifted
[18:50] <hallam> ok I'll be back later
[18:50] <jcoxon> we'd prefer if it runs roughly along the UKHAS Standard
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[18:50] <Laurenceb> well I have php code
[18:50] <jcoxon> even though that still being drafted
[18:50] <jcoxon> oh your own code
[18:51] <Laurenceb> for my own gui - that submits to natriums tracker
[18:51] <jcoxon> you'd want me to run that?
[18:51] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:ground_data
[18:51] <Laurenceb> yes
[18:52] <jcoxon> ummm i guess i could
[18:55] <jcoxon> when you planning to launch?
[18:56] <Laurenceb> week or two
[18:56] <Laurenceb> guess when the guys at cm have finished exams
[18:57] <jcoxon> oh right
[18:57] <jcoxon> if i used your code and you ran your code will it play nice?
[18:58] <Laurenceb> yes, if I dont have internet
[18:58] <Laurenceb> so only you send packets on to natrium
[18:58] <jcoxon> but if we both have internet?
[18:59] <Laurenceb> me probalby not
[18:59] <Laurenceb> - at churchill
[18:59] <jcoxon> oh right so i'll be the only link?
[19:00] <Laurenceb> yes
[19:00] <jcoxon> why don't you go with the DL system then we can have lots of listeners submitting?
[19:00] <Laurenceb> I'd have to fudge the packets
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[19:01] <Laurenceb> and theres no facility for the data fields I need
[19:01] <jcoxon> its all logged raw as well
[19:01] <jcoxon> only lat,lon and alt are plotted onto the tracker
[19:02] <jcoxon> the rest is kept
[19:02] <Laurenceb> right
[19:02] <Laurenceb> hmm maybe
[19:02] <Laurenceb> It takes decimal degrees?
[19:02] <jcoxon> as in 52,231 -0.098
[19:03] <jcoxon> yes
[19:03] <jcoxon> , -> .
[19:04] <jcoxon> if you are around tomorrow there might be a launch in the afternoon
[19:04] <jcoxon> check out how the DL system works then
[19:05] <Laurenceb> ok
[19:05] <Laurenceb> oh from PBH?
[19:06] <jcoxon> no
[19:06] <jcoxon> Steve might be launching
[19:06] <jcoxon> at Churchill
[19:06] <Laurenceb> oh ok, with the HF ?
[19:06] <jcoxon> PBH has postponed till sun/mon
[19:06] <jcoxon> no 434
[19:07] <Laurenceb> oh
[19:07] <Laurenceb> whats he flying?
[19:07] <edmoore> I told the cambridge tower 2pm, but that's somewhat pulled out of my arse
[19:07] <jcoxon> a small payload - i'm not sure
[19:07] <jcoxon> edmoore, :-)
[19:07] <jcoxon> will fire up the DL system for the flight
[19:07] <jcoxon> will have a DL client revision for the flight - will publish later
[19:07] Action: Laurenceb orders bearings from RS
[19:08] <jcoxon> i want it to upload the freq that hte receivers are listening on
[19:08] <edmoore> jcoxon: cool. i will run my clinet
[19:08] <jcoxon> as i'm going to leave mine on, use that data to tune to the freq and then use my scanning function of the new revision to find the signal
[19:08] <edmoore> your client*
[19:09] <jcoxon> as i'll be in theatre tomorrow hopefully
[19:09] <jcoxon> there is a quadruplet c-section
[19:10] <Laurenceb> interesting
[19:10] <Laurenceb> a bit too intense for me - white smoke could prove fatal
[19:11] <Laurenceb> right I'm going to get a couple of these I think http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=0540299
[19:12] <jcoxon> white smoke?
[19:12] <Laurenceb> as in scrweing up something
[19:12] <jcoxon> hehe in the c-section?
[19:12] <Laurenceb> yes
[19:12] <jcoxon> oh i'm sure a professor is performing it - delivering 4 is pretty damn crazy
[19:13] <jcoxon> 1 is hard enough
[19:13] <jcoxon> bbl
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[20:11] <jcoxon> hi mib_n6thuj
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[20:13] <jcoxon> hey rjharrison
[20:13] <jcoxon> got a quick q
[20:14] <jcoxon> tomorrow will you have fldigi and rigcat working?
[20:14] <jcoxon> as in will the client have access to your radio?
[20:16] <natrium42> who is lauching?
[20:17] <jcoxon> steve is
[20:29] <rjharrison> yep
[20:29] <rjharrison> Sorry for the delay playing on HF
[20:32] <jcoxon> np
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[20:38] <Jon_APEX> Evening all
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[20:42] <edmoore> hi Jon_APEX
[20:42] <rjharrison> hi Jon_APEX
[20:42] <rjharrison> cOOL
[20:43] <Jon_APEX> We're planning to have the next payload transmit on both 50 and 300 baud rtty
[20:43] <Jon_APEX> Do you reckon 50 baud rtty will be OK with a normal amateur radio?
[20:44] <Jon_APEX> As I'm guessing the input is AC coupled
[20:44] <SpeedEvil> you read it on SSB
[20:44] <SpeedEvil> this results in the output being two tones, not two voltages
[20:44] <jcoxon> Jon_APEX, 50baud is great
[20:44] <Jon_APEX> Ah ok
[20:45] <jcoxon> you around tomorrow afternoon?
[20:46] <Jon_APEX> Me?
[20:46] <jcoxon> there is a launch tomorrow
[20:46] <jcoxon> in the afternoon - hopefully the DL Network will be running
[20:46] <Jon_APEX> Ah yes, I remember someone saying :)
[20:46] <jcoxon> if you are interested in seeing a flight
[20:46] <jcoxon> online i mean
[20:46] <Jon_APEX> Yep, definitely
[20:47] <Jon_APEX> I'll have a computer running most of the afternoon and I'll be on this IRC
[20:48] <jcoxon> great
[20:49] Action: jcoxon - now i have to get the network to work
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[20:54] <Jon_APEX> So using the NTX2/NRX2 modules, and the resistor network to send two voltages into the transmitter, what will the reciever output? The same voltages?
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[20:56] <jcoxon> oh we don't use the recievers
[20:56] <Jon_APEX> OK
[20:56] <Jon_APEX> so a normal amateur radio would output tones?
[20:56] <jcoxon> yeah
[20:57] <Jon_APEX> Right
[20:57] <Jon_APEX> and fldigi can understand that using rtty decode?
[20:57] <jcoxon> yup
[20:57] <Jon_APEX> Great
[20:58] <Jon_APEX> Just checking so I know what I'm expecting :)
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[20:58] <Jon_APEX> Any idea what the NRX2 would output? I'm guessing it doesn't read on SSB
[21:01] <Jon_APEX> Back in a sec guys
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[21:05] <Jon_APEX_> hi again
[21:05] <Matt_APEX> hey
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[22:14] <Jon_APEX_> anyone used falconry transmitters on payloads for fox hunting them after landing?
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> falcconry?
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> what freq?
[22:15] <Jon_APEX_> http://www.falconryelectronics.co.uk/merlin.html
[22:15] <Jon_APEX_> 173 Mhz
[22:15] <SpeedEvil> Seems rather pointless
[22:15] <SpeedEvil> not much benefit over 433
[22:16] <Jon_APEX_> Just a completely seperate transmitter, all in with batteries its only 8 grams
[22:16] <jcoxon> not sure how expensive they are
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> 30 miles line of sight in ideal conditions at 170MHz
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> Hmm
[22:17] <SpeedEvil> 5mw?
[22:17] <Jon_APEX_> They are very expensive, only just found pricing! Perhaps not then
[22:17] <Jon_APEX_> Not sure on output power either, am searching
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[22:19] <natrium42> hey steve
[22:19] <G8KHW> hiya natrium
[22:20] <natrium42> so what's the payload for tomorrow?
[22:21] <G8KHW> just a small thing - more of a tracker test than anything
[22:22] <G8KHW> the lassen is being a bit tempramental
[22:25] <Jon_APEX_> whats the scheduled launch time and location?
[22:26] <G8KHW> After lunch - near cambridge
[22:27] <jcoxon> G8KHW, there is a new version of the client
[22:28] <jcoxon> on the wiki
[22:28] <jcoxon> http://spacenear.us/wiki/doku.php?id=dlistening:client:dlclient7.py
[22:31] <Jon_APEX_> I'll be watching tomorrow :)
[22:32] <Jon_APEX_> Best of luck for it
[22:35] <G8KHW> ta
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[22:36] <Jon_APEX_> I'm off
[22:36] <Jon_APEX_> Cya guys
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[22:40] <rjharrison> Hi steve
[22:41] <jcoxon> ping G8KHW
[22:42] <G8KHW> hi
[22:42] <jcoxon> G8KHW, could you check the latest client to your transmissions
[22:43] <jcoxon> i'm not going to be around tomorrow to debug on the fly
[22:43] <jcoxon> as am in theatre
[22:46] <G8KHW> ok I'll give it a go - give me 10 mins
[22:46] <jcoxon> np
[22:54] <G8KHW> how do i run the script from pyton again?
[22:55] <G8KHW> (active python is installed and I have the client on the desktop)
[22:56] <jcoxon> open fldigi first
[22:56] <G8KHW> yep done
[22:56] <jcoxon> then open the script in active python
[22:57] <G8KHW> yep - how
[22:57] <jcoxon> urgh, off the top of my head
[22:57] <G8KHW> I have typed python dlclient7.py
[22:58] <G8KHW> and all i get is #!/usr/bin/python
[22:58] <G8KHW> #
[22:58] <G8KHW> # dlclient.py
[22:58] <G8KHW> #
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[22:59] <G8KHW> ug
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[22:59] <jcoxon> G8KHW, can you not do file open
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[23:00] <G8KHW> if I launch it the dos window closes
[23:01] <jcoxon> hmmm
[23:01] <jcoxon> i don't have windows
[23:01] <jcoxon> thats the problem
[23:01] <G8KHW> hum - I goy it to launch - I get an error: ImportError: No module named serial
[23:02] <jcoxon> oh right
[23:02] <jcoxon> okay one sec i'll fix that
[23:02] <jcoxon> hold on
[23:02] <jcoxon> sorry
[23:02] <rjharrison> yep edit the file and delete serial
[23:02] <rjharrison> its in the firest few lines
[23:02] <rjharrison> it works then
[23:05] <jcoxon> new copy online
[23:05] <jcoxon> removed the gps component
[23:05] <jcoxon> http://spacenear.us/wiki/doku.php?id=dlistening:client:dlclient7.py
[23:07] <G8KHW> what do I put in for the GPS port?
[23:07] <rjharrison> james I'm getting field too big
[23:08] <G8KHW> ah - should hae read
[23:09] <jcoxon> rjharrison, damn
[23:09] <jcoxon> which version are you running?
[23:09] <rjharrison> The one off the wiki
[23:10] <rjharrison> 15 chars
[23:10] <rjharrison> is max
[23:10] <rjharrison> field length is bigger than this for the custom data
[23:11] <G8KHW> it still says GPS to send cat to or similar
[23:11] <G8KHW> when setting up for the ist time
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[23:11] <rjharrison> Just put any thing it wont use it
[23:11] <rjharrison> com1
[23:11] <rjharrison> if you like
[23:11] <rjharrison> or /dev/tty0
[23:12] <rjharrison> but there is a slight problem in your test data the largest field is 17 chars
[23:12] <rjharrison> and this version is maxing at 15
[23:12] <rjharrison> jcoxon: can we put 18 in for good measure
[23:13] <jcoxon> G8KHW, anything
[23:13] <jcoxon> i won't read it
[23:13] <jcoxon> it*
[23:13] <jcoxon> rjharrison, yup
[23:13] <rjharrison> actually
[23:13] <rjharrison> stop
[23:13] <rjharrison> 20 would be safest
[23:13] <rjharrison> as there is 0.xxx in the long
[23:13] <G8KHW> ok should be working
[23:14] <G8KHW> where is the tracker page these days
[23:14] <jcoxon> spacenear.us works
[23:15] <jcoxon> but http://www.robertharrison.org/tracker/ is prob best
[23:15] <rjharrison> janes can you clear the data there I'm going to run a test on steves data again
[23:15] <rjharrison> I'm clearing me now
[23:16] <jcoxon> done
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[23:17] <jcoxon> good looks like its working
[23:18] <G8KHW> live from the back garden - I'll move it
[23:20] <jcoxon> yup its updating
[23:20] <jcoxon> okay i'm glad thats working for you
[23:20] <G8KHW> seems to be working
[23:21] <jcoxon> are you running the latest direct from teh wiki or an edited version
[23:21] <G8KHW> the latest from the wiki
[23:21] <G8KHW> I guess I should get a 3G dongle for tomorrow
[23:22] <G8KHW> which is best james in your oppinion - for EARS coverage and more generally
[23:23] <jcoxon> i've always had coverage with vodafone
[23:23] <jcoxon> running it through my phone
[23:23] <rjharrison> me too
[23:23] <rjharrison> vodaphone dongle
[23:23] <G8KHW> voda it is then
[23:23] <rjharrison> for me
[23:27] <rjharrison> ok i'm going to flush the tracke and the data
[23:28] <jcoxon> done
[23:28] <rjharrison> G8KHW can you stop tracking now and it will be clear for tomorrow
[23:28] <G8KHW> yep have done
[23:28] <G8KHW> where is the log - I'm going to need it for the landing spot prediction
[23:29] <rjharrison> http://www.robertharrison.org/listen/view.php
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[23:32] <Laurenceb> hi
[23:32] <Laurenceb> G8KHW: you are launching?
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> test
[23:34] <rjharrison> tset
[23:34] <rjharrison> steve is the log ok for you
[23:37] <jcoxon> i've updated spacenear.us for the launch
[23:37] <G8KHW> I don't know as there is no example of my additional strings
[23:38] <rjharrison> opps they were there it logs the data as it comes in
[23:38] <rjharrison> do you want a line?
[23:38] <G8KHW> shall i try the client again?
[23:38] <rjharrison> gone on then
[23:38] <rjharrison> I'll clear down to morrow
[23:39] <G8KHW> yep - that works 4 me
[23:40] <G8KHW> client stoped
[23:40] <G8KHW> OK I'm packing up 4 an early night
[23:40] <rjharrison> Me too
[23:40] <jcoxon> G8KHW, good luck, i'll try and be on tomorrow
[23:41] <rjharrison> Me too
[23:41] <rjharrison> nights all
[23:41] <G8KHW> nights
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