highaltitude.log.20090305

[00:00] <SpeedEvil> http://www.fukung.net/v/11660/74510c3f63bd3e93d9b1334047a044da.jpg
[00:02] <Laurenceb> right... only thing left is to destroy the cookie
[00:02] <Laurenceb> how do I manage that?
[00:02] <SpeedEvil> what browser?
[00:02] <natrium42> do you put it into a file?
[00:02] <natrium42> just delete the file in that case
[00:02] <Laurenceb> well... I want a link to delete the cookie on the page
[00:03] <Laurenceb> so there basically an ID cookie that tells php who we are
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> update the cookie to null
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> ?
[00:03] <Laurenceb> ok... how do I do that javascript?
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> expire immediately I mean
[00:03] <SpeedEvil> I dunno
[00:05] <Laurenceb> guess I could have a form that POSTs to the same php file
[00:05] <Laurenceb> then the php file wipes the session is it detects the POST variable set
[00:07] <Laurenceb> not sure if I be bothered to have an online tracker with all the information on... sorry folks
[00:08] Action: Laurenceb is lazy
[00:09] <shellevil> or just nuke the cookie if yo''ve last heard from the user over 10 mins ag0#
[00:10] <Laurenceb> hmm no theres only a cookie for the local user
[00:10] <Laurenceb> its just to keep track on how long since the last packet
[00:10] <Laurenceb> I want a reset button
[00:13] <Laurenceb> natrium42: what happens if the tracker gets the same data twice?
[00:16] <natrium42> it stores the points
[00:17] <natrium42> you should filter the data so that it doesn't happen
[00:17] <natrium42> although i could add a check
[00:19] <Laurenceb> yeah thats one reason I added the cookie thingy
[00:20] <Laurenceb> I set the php page to refresh every 5 seconds
[00:20] <Laurenceb> so I only want it to post new data
[00:23] <natrium42> so it's exactly the same data? time too?
[00:24] <Laurenceb> well it counts the number of packets
[00:24] <Laurenceb> then if that has increased it posts the new arrival
[00:24] <Laurenceb> it uses the session parameters to count
[00:26] <natrium42> when you say "same data", are all variables you send to the tracker exactly the same?
[00:28] <Laurenceb> they will be if the cookie bit is removed
[00:28] <natrium42> ok, i will add a check
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[00:42] <Laurenceb> how do I make text function as a button in html?
[00:43] <natrium42> ok, added duplicate check
[00:43] <Laurenceb> thanks
[00:43] <natrium42> you can make it a <span></span> with onclick property
[00:44] <Laurenceb> onclick=... ?
[00:45] <natrium42> http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_onClick.asp
[00:45] <Laurenceb> hmm javascript fairdoos
[00:45] <Laurenceb> thanks
[00:45] <natrium42> :)
[00:52] <Laurenceb> document.getElementById('hiddenresetform').submit() ?
[00:52] <natrium42> yep
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[01:01] <Laurenceb> is it possible to make an anchor that doesnt link anywhere?
[01:01] <natrium42> '#' ?
[01:01] <Laurenceb> href='#' ?
[01:02] <natrium42> yes
[01:02] <natrium42> dunno what you want though :)
[01:04] <Laurenceb> oh I know
[01:04] <Laurenceb> nvm
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[01:08] <Laurenceb> no I dont grrr
[01:08] <Laurenceb> ok... to avoid a complete headache with the stylesheet I want to use <a>reset</a> as the reset button
[01:09] <Laurenceb> how can I do it?
[01:09] <Laurenceb> I tried <a href="javascript:submit()"> but no luck there
[01:09] <natrium42> submit only works on a form
[01:11] <Laurenceb> sure
[01:11] <Laurenceb> submit is a script to submit the form
[01:17] <natrium42> ah
[01:21] <Laurenceb> typo :P
[01:22] <natrium42> lol
[01:22] <natrium42> you should use firebug to debug
[01:22] <Laurenceb> ok, whats that?
[01:22] <natrium42> it's a plugin for firefox
[01:23] <Laurenceb> neat
[01:23] <natrium42> that makes debugging simple
[01:23] <Laurenceb> hmm so close to getting it working
[01:23] <Laurenceb> I'll speed it up by not running the graphcs if there no new data
[01:24] <Laurenceb> then thats about it apart from cosmetics on the graphs
[01:24] <Laurenceb> its using the checksum now
[01:24] <Laurenceb> - on the data packets
[01:53] <Laurenceb> natrium42: ping - pm
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[05:13] <natrium42> hi sYx66
[05:13] <sYx66> hi
[05:14] <natrium42> got most of flight computer soldered
[05:16] <sYx66> you got the parts so fast?
[05:18] <natrium42> yes, digikey is overnight
[05:19] <natrium42> bah, where are my 4.7k and 1k resistors?
[05:20] <sYx66> io have a crap load of them from our ebay order
[05:20] <sYx66> just need to find the right ones
[05:20] <natrium42> 0603 :P
[05:20] <sYx66> ?!
[05:21] <natrium42> surface mount
[05:21] <natrium42> i found the 4.7k
[05:21] <sYx66> oh yea.
[05:22] <natrium42> meh, can probably use 2k
[05:22] <natrium42> brb soldering
[05:26] <sYx66> sleep
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[06:45] <natrium42> ok, it didn't explode when connected to power
[06:45] <natrium42> a good sign?
[07:35] <natrium42> bah, my programmer does not support atmega2560
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[08:20] <natrium42> oh well, i ordered a proper programmer
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[08:40] <natrium42> hi jcoxon
[08:41] <jcoxon> morning natrium42
[08:41] Action: jcoxon is missing clinic again
[08:41] <natrium42> why?
[08:42] <jcoxon> laziness and its not that helpful
[08:42] <jcoxon> hehe
[08:42] <jcoxon> hows everything going?
[08:43] <natrium42> i soldered the flight computerr
[08:43] <natrium42> but my avr jtag cable does not support atmega2560 :S
[08:44] <jcoxon> excellent and oh
[08:45] <natrium42> hopefullly new one will arrive on friday
[08:46] <jcoxon> okay cool
[08:47] <jcoxon> hopefully those valves will arrive today or tomorrow
[08:48] <jcoxon> are there any jobs you need me to sort out?
[08:49] <natrium42> don't think so
[08:49] <natrium42> i think everything is on schedule
[08:51] <jcoxon> excellent
[08:51] <natrium42> actually one question
[08:52] <jcoxon> perhaps we should have that 'meeting' on the weekend just to go through how everything is going to fit together
[08:52] <natrium42> should we keep altitude based on gps or keep at constant atmospheric pressure?
[08:52] <natrium42> sure, meeting is fine
[08:53] <jcoxon> i think the general consensus is altitude
[08:53] <natrium42> the winds do not follow altitude, they follow pressure gradients right?
[08:53] <jcoxon> yeah they follow pressure
[08:53] <natrium42> the problem is that hysplit uses pressure too
[08:53] <jcoxon> if you look at the hysplit traces
[08:53] <natrium42> or can you set it to keep constant altitude?
[08:54] <jcoxon> the wind packets don't shift that much
[08:54] <jcoxon> also we are going to be going up and down so much it doesn't really matter
[08:54] <jcoxon> i think 11km is a good altitude to aim for
[08:54] <natrium42> hmmkay
[08:55] <natrium42> but is it possible to make hysplit keep the altitude?
[08:55] <natrium42> instead of pressure?
[08:55] <jcoxon> i don't think so, it sort of goes against the concept of hysplit
[08:55] <natrium42> guess we will have variation anyway
[08:55] <jcoxon> as it was designed to track pollution
[08:56] <natrium42> technically we could program the altitude profile of hysplit just before launch :P
[08:56] <jcoxon> indeed we could
[08:56] <jcoxon> hehe
[08:57] <jcoxon> i was thinking about 'geofencing'
[08:57] <jcoxon> we perhaps should program in a rough coords of the UK and have it turn off the HF radio
[08:57] <jcoxon> and instead use the 70cm radio
[08:58] <natrium42> sounds good
[08:59] <natrium42> do you know how steve's doing with the HF transmitter?
[08:59] <jcoxon> haven't heard from him
[08:59] <jcoxon> he has finished the code
[08:59] <jcoxon> i think he is still waiting for the kit to arrive
[08:59] <natrium42> k
[08:59] <jcoxon> just added you to the google analytics for the wiki
[09:00] <natrium42> globalstar coverage over atlantic might be a bit SPOTty
[09:00] <jcoxon> haha
[09:00] <natrium42> (damn random caps lock ;) )
[09:00] <jcoxon> i think its still good to have the radio
[09:00] <jcoxon> and a lot more fun
[09:01] <natrium42> true
[09:02] <jcoxon> natrium42, http://groups.google.com/group/atlantic_halo
[09:02] <jcoxon> its a list for radio listeners for announcemnts
[09:03] <natrium42> ok, cool
[09:03] <jcoxon> the other thing i having been thinking is what if it actually makes it
[09:04] <jcoxon> how are we going to bring this down without causing any trouble?
[09:05] <natrium42> cutting off the payload should work
[09:05] <jcoxon> i'm a little worried about the large plastic balloon thats going to land somewhere
[09:05] <natrium42> could you ask mark about it?
[09:06] <jcoxon> yeah i will
[09:06] <natrium42> i think it will deflate quickly without a mass pulling the vent down
[09:06] <natrium42> which cutdowns to use is another question btw
[09:06] <jcoxon> i was think perhaps that when it reached land we could stop dumping ballast and the weight will bring it down at night
[09:06] <natrium42> hmm
[09:07] <jcoxon> we could then track it down and rescue it/ stop it destroying cities
[09:07] <jcoxon> i'll email mark
[09:07] <natrium42> yeah, my ideas to get it down are stupid
[09:08] <natrium42> like shooting a pellet up
[09:08] <natrium42> :P
[09:08] <natrium42> (pellet should have a tiny parachute such that not to hit anybody on the ground)
[09:08] <jcoxon> well an explosive cutdown just taped to the vent could open a rip in the balloon which could easily deflate it
[09:09] <natrium42> also need a drop mechanism for the ballast tank
[09:09] <natrium42> thinking nichrome wire
[09:10] <jcoxon> + valve?
[09:10] <natrium42> i mean to drop the tank itself
[09:10] <natrium42> once it's empty
[09:10] <jcoxon> yeah
[09:11] <jcoxon> you might as well dump the valve as well
[09:11] <jcoxon> then all you'd need to do is disconnect the sensor and the valve
[09:12] <natrium42> a flat ribbon connector should do the trick
[09:12] <natrium42> well, need to make sure it works
[09:12] <natrium42> :)
[09:12] <jcoxon> so dumping the ballast tank will be a final survival technique
[09:12] <jcoxon> to get us just a little bit furhter
[09:13] <natrium42> yep
[09:14] <natrium42> 4am, i should get some sleep
[09:14] <natrium42> g'nite
[09:14] <jcoxon> natrium42, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-gauge-nos-10-and-12-tank-Mosquito-34_W0QQitemZ350171864079QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CPV_Aviation_SM?hash=item350171864079&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
[09:14] <jcoxon> i was thinkinf of that to monitor the ballast :-D
[09:14] <jcoxon> night
[09:14] <natrium42> haha, nice
[09:15] <natrium42> you need to set up a webcast of your gauges
[09:15] <natrium42> :P
[09:15] Action: natrium42 Zzz
[09:15] <jcoxon> night
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[10:09] <shellevil> tank + valve + some bats?
[10:10] <jcoxon> shellevil, as things to drop?
[10:11] <shellevil> yeah
[10:12] <shellevil> wondering something like drop 6*AA, keep 5*AAA connected in parallel with a diode isolating them so they haven't been used
[10:13] <shellevil> maybe overcomplicating
[10:13] <shellevil> it adds a connector to the battery path
[10:13] <jcoxon> its probably a bit complicated
[10:13] <shellevil> or not actually - could make the battery wires out of foil which will rip when the tank detaches
[10:14] <shellevil> is there a cutdown and parachute?
[10:15] <jcoxon> shellevil, depends on the best way of bringing down the balloon when it makes it
[10:15] <jcoxon> but most likely yes
[10:15] <shellevil> hmm
[10:16] <shellevil> the valve weighs what - 20g?
[10:16] <shellevil> the ballast tank - coke bottle? will weigh about 30g or so
[10:17] <jcoxon> you thinking its not really worth dumping
[10:17] <jcoxon> ?
[10:17] <shellevil> wondering that somewhat.
[10:18] <jcoxon> hmmmm, shall see what sort of weight it comes to
[10:18] <shellevil> There is some trade between the probablility of having to buy a new valve, and the probability of it landing safely
[10:18] <shellevil> and the added complexity of making it droppable cleanly
[10:18] <jcoxon> i've ordered 2 anyway
[10:19] <jcoxon> yeah if it disconnected uncleanly could have it hanging below
[10:20] <shellevil> how is the bottom of the balloon closed?
[10:20] <jcoxon> it isn't
[10:20] <jcoxon> it has a venting ring
[10:20] <jcoxon> one sec i'll find some pics
[10:21] <shellevil> I'd have thought that'd lose lots of gas due to diffusion and buffeting. Or has this flown before?
[10:22] <jcoxon> this has flown before
[10:22] <jcoxon> its teh whole point really
[10:23] <jcoxon> the balloon is oversized
[10:23] <jcoxon> so the helium bubble sits at the top
[10:23] <shellevil> what's the benefit over sealing, and monitoring balloon inflation?
[10:23] <shellevil> ah
[10:23] <jcoxon> and expands as rises
[10:23] <jcoxon> as it fill the envelope some helium pops out the vent at the bottom, reducing the ascent rate
[10:23] <jcoxon> this happens till it finds equilibrium and floats
[10:26] <shellevil> once the payload cuts free, - 1kg++ shouldn't it carry on floating long enough to keep it off the UK?
[10:26] <jcoxon> quite possibly yes
[10:26] <jcoxon> its going to land somewhere - thats what concerns me
[10:26] <shellevil> if the vent ring is heavy enough to keep it upright
[10:27] <shellevil> it's what - 10m diameter?
[10:27] <jcoxon> the vent ring?
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[10:27] <shellevil> no :)
[10:28] <jcoxon> i've sent you a pdf of a guide to fill teh balloon
[10:28] <jcoxon> http://www.vimeo.com/2487441
[10:29] <jcoxon> however how they filled it isn't the best way
[10:29] <jcoxon> we'll do it like in the pdf
[10:31] <jcoxon> i guess its not that big a balloon
[10:31] <shellevil> Cutting massive holes in the balloon would seem to be the only guaranteed option
[10:32] <jcoxon> not like these bad boys :
[10:32] <jcoxon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/3289914637/in/set-72157614028027899/
[10:32] <jcoxon> :-p
[10:32] <shellevil> or adding a weight to the top, so it turns over
[10:32] <shellevil> Well.
[10:32] <shellevil> There is always hydrogen lift gas, and the loud solution :)
[10:33] <shellevil> Is there a top point where it's all gathered?
[10:33] <shellevil> on the balloon
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[10:46] <jcoxon> shellevil, ping
[10:46] <jcoxon> this is a really good video to check out:
[10:46] <jcoxon> http://www.viddler.com/explore/spiritofknox/videos/5/
[10:54] <shellevil> ong
[11:00] <shellevil> should that be at 2-3fps, or is it something local?
[11:01] <jcoxon> ?
[11:01] <shellevil> above video
[11:01] <jcoxon> it played fine for me
[11:01] <shellevil> odd
[11:02] <jcoxon> just tried again and it was fine
[11:03] <shellevil> eeepc - maybe too slow.
[11:05] <jcoxon> oh, well its a good videa
[11:05] <jcoxon> video
[11:10] <shellevil> yeah. One thing that's not clear - how is the top sealed. Just run a bag-sealer over it?
[11:10] <jcoxon> the top is presealed
[11:12] <shellevil> that eliminates the thought of cutting free of the base ring, and pulling the top of the balloon I guess.
[11:12] <shellevil> to get it to invert
[11:14] <jcoxon> yeah that was a thought, perhaps have a string attached to the top of the balloon which runs through the vent, so when you cut down from the main strings it pulls the top through the vent inverting it
[11:20] <shellevil> all of which complicates the balloon, and adds failure modes :/
[11:29] <jcoxon> yeah
[11:30] <jcoxon> we shouldn't really mess with the balloon
[12:27] <SpeedEvil> Make the vent ring out of thermite+binder
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[12:59] <SpeedEvil> Radio 4 - 2:15 - The State of the art - Iain M banks
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[14:28] <SpeedEvil> Oooh.
[14:28] <SpeedEvil> Flickr has hidden stuff.
[14:29] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&z=t&ct=6&xel=30&w=all&q=stars&m=text
[14:29] <SpeedEvil> search for 'stars' with exposure of over 30s
[14:29] <SpeedEvil> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bergljot/3208106018/
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[14:40] <SpeedEvil> Neat! http://www.flickr.com/photos/brannil/3098466815/
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[16:26] <Laurenceb> yo
[16:28] <gordonjcp> hello
[16:30] <SpeedEvil> yoyo
[16:35] <Laurenceb> jcoxon: do you have rocketboy's mfsk code?
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[16:47] <gordonjcp> hah
[16:47] <gordonjcp> look what I found
[16:47] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/panorama.jpg
[16:48] <Laurenceb> lol where did you find that?
[16:49] <gordonjcp> it was one of the balloon flight pics that I shooped ages ago
[16:49] <gordonjcp> and promptly forgot about
[16:49] <Laurenceb> :P
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[16:57] <jcoxon> hey all
[16:57] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, i don't have the code -sorry
[16:58] <Laurenceb> did you get the valves?
[16:59] <jcoxon> i've ordered them
[16:59] <jcoxon> so probably tomorrow they should arrive
[16:59] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, check this:
[16:59] <jcoxon> http://www.viddler.com/explore/spiritofknox/videos/5/
[16:59] <jcoxon> interesting as you get to see the snox IV payload
[17:01] <jcoxon> and how they did the ballast tank
[17:01] <Laurenceb> they appear to be based in a toiletr
[17:05] <Laurenceb> cool
[17:05] <Laurenceb> hmm their payload looks pretty good
[17:05] <Laurenceb> I think we really need to avoid condensatino on the envelope
[17:06] <jcoxon> when filling?
[17:06] <Laurenceb> flying
[17:06] <jcoxon> how do we avoid that though?
[17:06] <SpeedEvil> dicing system.
[17:06] <Laurenceb> fly higher
[17:07] <Laurenceb> lol
[17:07] <SpeedEvil> deicing
[17:07] <jcoxon> but we'd never make it
[17:07] <jcoxon> we need to be in the jet stream
[17:07] <Laurenceb> I dont know
[17:07] <Laurenceb> once you're in the stratosphere its easy to remain aloft
[17:07] <Laurenceb> could easily stay up there a week
[17:08] <jcoxon> i think its alot easier to go for 3 days in the jetstream
[17:08] <Laurenceb> I'm not sonvinced we could even make a single night
[17:08] <jcoxon> also how would we survive the temp fluctations between day and night?
[17:08] <Laurenceb> unless its very clever
[17:08] <Laurenceb> in the stratosphere you only need to dump ~15% of your ballast a night
[17:09] <jcoxon> hmmmmm
[17:10] <jcoxon> we've seen a very similar long altitude balloon survive 3 nights
[17:11] <Laurenceb> we need to write some sim code using weather models
[17:18] <jcoxon> indeed we do
[17:19] <jcoxon> but there is nothing like trying :-p
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[20:01] <natrium42> took a picture of flight computer --> http://www.natrium42.com/gallery2/v/balloon/transatlantic/controller-progress-1.jpg.html
[20:03] <Laurenceb> nice work
[20:03] <Laurenceb> talked to the uC yet?
[20:03] <natrium42> thx
[20:03] <natrium42> no, my programmer does not support atmega2560
[20:03] <Laurenceb> :-/
[20:03] <natrium42> ordered a new one today, should arrive tomorrow
[20:04] <Laurenceb> cool
[20:04] <Laurenceb> any thought on FAT?
[20:04] <natrium42> avrjtag mkII clone
[20:04] <natrium42> not yet, shouldn't be too hard though
[20:04] <natrium42> lots of ressources on the mcu
[20:04] <Laurenceb> yeah
[20:04] <Laurenceb> I spent ages trying to fit it into 16KB and gave up
[20:05] <natrium42> i need to read back the pictures and send them over satellite
[20:05] <natrium42> with error checking etc
[20:05] <Laurenceb> I've seen stuff that compiles into 32 easily
[20:05] <natrium42> that's the harder part
[20:05] <natrium42> this microsd slot is nice :)
[20:05] <natrium42> i made sure to get one without clickin mechanism
[20:05] <Laurenceb> why
[20:06] <natrium42> they tend to break easily
[20:06] <Laurenceb> ok
[20:06] <natrium42> and you don't want the card to fly out in mid flight
[20:06] <shellevil> I've got one prototype using blobs of silver epoxy
[20:08] <natrium42> eh?
[20:08] <natrium42> shellevil, how do you like my capacitor hack job? :P
[20:09] <shellevil> diddn't see
[20:09] <shellevil> microSD attached using blobs of silver-epoxy as a 'socket'
[20:10] <Laurenceb> theres this stuff called solder
[20:10] <natrium42> aah
[20:10] <shellevil> I'm using the microSD like a BGA
[20:13] <natrium42> i got some wireglue --> http://www.wireglue.us/
[20:13] <natrium42> never tested it, though
[20:15] <shellevil> got some of the silver stuff
[20:17] <Laurenceb> search on avr freaks for fat libraries
[20:17] <shellevil> It turns out that it's approximately 0.36 ohm inches for this stuff
[20:17] <shellevil> after it dries, and wow, that's over 500,000 (five hundred thousand)
[20:17] <shellevil> times higher than copper! Yikes. This means the emulsion must
[20:17] <shellevil> be playing a big part in the conductivity rather than the carbon.
[20:21] <natrium42> ?
[20:21] <natrium42> oh
[20:21] <natrium42> that's pretty cool
[20:21] <natrium42> which silver epoxy is that?
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[20:22] <natrium42> shellevil, which silver epoxy is that?
[20:23] <shellevil> silver loaded epoxy, ebay
[20:24] <natrium42> oh, the much hyped ebay brand :)
[20:31] <Laurenceb> !commands
[20:31] <Laurenceb> hmf
[20:31] <Laurenceb> !zeusbot
[20:31] <Laurenceb> how do I leave a massage for someone?
[20:33] <Laurenceb> erm message
[20:35] <Laurenceb> oh help
[20:35] <Laurenceb> thanks
[20:38] <natrium42> np
[20:48] <shellevil> or even memoserv
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[22:54] <Laurenceb> natrium42: http://elm-chan.org/fsw/ff/00index_e.html
[22:54] <Laurenceb> hi hallam
[22:55] <hallam> hey
[22:56] <Laurenceb> launching soon?
[22:56] <hallam> star tracker flight sometime after 14th march, except that jetstream looks crap atm
[22:56] <Laurenceb> I was discussing hitching a ride on the bottom of your star tracker with edmoore
[22:56] <hallam> so it'll be soon as wx permits
[22:57] <hallam> yeah
[22:57] <Laurenceb> cool
[22:57] <hallam> sounds good
[22:57] <Laurenceb> its ~500 grams
[22:57] <Laurenceb> 434.075
[22:57] <hallam> as long as we have a couple of redundant cutdowns for you
[22:57] <Laurenceb> yeah ok
[22:57] <Laurenceb> I'll go for something around 5 to 10Km cutdown
[22:57] <hallam> no problems with weight and frequency, I just don't want swinging dynamics to screw me (going for < 1 deg/s at float)
[22:58] <Laurenceb> yeah
[22:58] <Laurenceb> how long exposurre do you need?
[22:58] <shellevil> hallam: relying on passive spin stabilisation?
[22:58] <hallam> I'll take varying lengths of exposure, hoping for useful results at 100ms
[22:58] <hallam> shellevil: yes
[22:58] <hallam> well, despin rather than spin
[22:59] <shellevil> Oh - did you see the way to search flickr for >30s exposures? moderately interesting results
[23:00] <shellevil> http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&z=t&ct=6&xel=30&w=all&q=stars&m=text
[23:00] <Laurenceb> hallam: http://www.gjcp.net/~laurenceb/minirog.php
[23:00] <Laurenceb> takes ages to load first time
[23:00] <hallam> hehe, cool
[23:01] <hallam> no kidding, it's still going
[23:01] <hallam> what is it?
[23:01] <Laurenceb> tracker
[23:02] <Laurenceb> it has to bounce a HTTP GET off spacenear.us for each new packet
[23:02] <Laurenceb> shouldnt be a problem with an actualy flight
[23:02] <Laurenceb> thats just a demo with a logfile
[23:02] <shellevil> still going here too#
[23:03] <Laurenceb> yeah seems to take ~100ms per packet
[23:03] <hallam> pretty
[23:03] <shellevil> yep
[23:05] <Laurenceb> I stole the css but it was still a pain to setup
[23:06] <Laurenceb> that runs at localhost then people can view online at http://spacenear.us/tracker
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[23:20] <Laurenceb> http://rookery2.viary.com/storagev12/1214500/1214524_9857_625x1000.jpg
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