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[08:55] <rjharrison_> managed a 20 mile rtty test this morning
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[08:58] <jcoxon> morning all
[09:05] <rjharrison_> Hi jcoxon
[09:06] <jcoxon> hey rjharrison_ thanks for the rtty
[09:06] <jcoxon> will have a play later
[09:06] <rjharrison_> Managed to do 20 miles tx on rtty this morning accross the ground
[09:06] <jcoxon> good work
[09:06] <rjharrison_> From home nearly to work
[09:06] <rjharrison_> Loads better than cw :)
[09:07] <jcoxon> :-D
[09:07] <rjharrison_> Going to play with temp sensors tonight
[09:07] <jcoxon> cool cool
[09:07] <jcoxon> weekend still on?
[09:07] <rjharrison_> I have had them working befor
[09:07] <rjharrison_> Yep I think so
[09:08] <jcoxon> sort of need to work out a plan
[09:08] <rjharrison_> I havn't looked at the wind yet
[09:08] <rjharrison_> Would be nice to collect if possible
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[09:08] <rjharrison_> Not fussed though
[09:08] <rjharrison_> morning natrium42
[09:08] <natrium42> hi
[09:09] <jcoxon> ummm weather is okay
[09:09] <natrium42> rjharrison_, you are launching this w/e?
[09:09] <jcoxon> well its not perfect
[09:09] <jcoxon> sat is better then sunday (at least right now)
[09:09] <rjharrison_> natrium42 Yep at the moment
[09:10] <rjharrison_> ok lets see how it looks on thursday
[09:10] <rjharrison_> What commitments do you have JC?
[09:11] <jcoxon> hmmm thurs is about hte same as sat
[09:11] <jcoxon> gets better through the dat
[09:11] <jcoxon> day*
[09:11] <jcoxon> one sec i'll wyoming it
[09:11] <rjharrison_> Sorry I meant check the weather on thursday for the w/e
[09:11] <jcoxon> oh right
[09:11] <jcoxon> haha
[09:12] <jcoxon> in regards to sat in theory i could come up
[09:12] <jcoxon> but if i could get away with not that would be good as well!
[09:13] <jcoxon> i don't think the camb guys are back
[09:13] <rjharrison_> OK I assume I can launch from EARS ok
[09:13] <jcoxon> they won't start for a good couple of weeks
[09:13] <rjharrison_> I'll have a chat with RB
[09:13] <jcoxon> yeah best talk to him
[09:13] <rjharrison_> I could wait but it would be a shame I'm ready for some tracking
[09:14] <jcoxon> i'm ready as well
[09:14] <rjharrison_> I'm going to print up some circuit borads for icarus tracker when I'm happy with it
[09:15] <rjharrison_> It's going to be the budget version
[09:15] <jcoxon> :-)
[09:18] <jcoxon> hehe did you see the irc stats i put up :-p
[09:19] <rjharrison_> lol on the stats
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[09:26] <natrium42> An edmoore appeared.
[09:26] <edmoore> he does!
[09:27] <edmoore> n'est pas for long
[09:27] <natrium42> i see, keeping busy :P
[09:27] <edmoore> with-a-nudge-and-a-wink
[09:28] <edmoore> actually my gf is here so that's somewhat correct
[09:28] <natrium42> :)
[09:28] <jcoxon> edmoore, gf + on irc ?!?
[09:28] <edmoore> she's playing a piece on the paino that I'm trying to learn
[09:29] <edmoore> bll
[09:29] <edmoore> bbl*
[09:29] <natrium42> k, have fun
[09:29] <natrium42> i should really go to bed
[09:29] <edmoore> oh i missed the 2nd bit - she's playing it far better than I will be able to
[09:29] <edmoore> so i am sulking on laptop
[09:29] <edmoore> right, bbl
[09:29] <edmoore> g'night natrium42
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[09:29] <jcoxon> hehe
[09:29] <natrium42> i said i *should*
[09:30] <natrium42> not would :P
[09:30] <jcoxon> natrium42, you doing much the week?
[09:30] <jcoxon> fancy trying to sort out my autocontroller for my laptop/radio before saturday
[09:31] <natrium42> sure
[09:31] <jcoxon> just trying to think of hte best way for it to be controlled online
[09:33] <jcoxon> i can connect and arduino to control up and down on the radio
[09:34] <jcoxon> but its getting the data stream to be shown online so the red lines can be positioned
[09:34] <jcoxon> screenshots?
[09:34] <jcoxon> then vnc in
[09:40] <natrium42> vnc sounds good
[09:40] <jcoxon> hmmmm, now if only i could get truetty to run on ppc ibook
[09:52] <natrium42> gnite
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[12:00] <Laurenceb> http://www.spacex.com/updates.php <- very cool photos
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[14:54] <jcoxon> hey corstan,
[14:54] <jcoxon> were you asking about gm862 and gumstix yesterday
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[15:55] <edmoore> aftn'n all
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[16:18] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[16:22] <edmoore> yo
[16:25] <jcoxon> hows tricks?
[16:33] <edmoore> not bad
[16:33] <edmoore> ]visited sister in lond today
[16:33] <edmoore> you?
[16:36] <jcoxon> oh cool
[16:36] <jcoxon> i've got my old ibook decoding rtty
[16:36] <jcoxon> and then linked it to the distributed listening server
[16:37] <edmoore> awesome
[16:37] <jcoxon> wish i could find an rtty broadcast on the radio
[16:37] <jcoxon> would be a good test
[16:38] <edmoore> would if I could
[16:38] <edmoore> just ordering some stuff from radioworld
[16:38] <jcoxon> :-)
[16:38] <jcoxon> good old radioworld
[16:39] <edmoore> i think I could sink a lot of ££ I don't have into them
[16:40] <edmoore> getting a handful of pl259 to BNC convertors too
[16:40] <jcoxon> yeah that sounds very sensible
[16:42] <jcoxon> now i need to interface the radio so it can be controlled through vnc
[16:42] <edmoore> how are you doing that?
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> Robot arm + webcam!
[16:42] <edmoore> also, where's she gonna live - your place?
[16:42] <jcoxon> yeah
[16:42] <jcoxon> tis a test for this weekend's launch
[16:43] <jcoxon> i was going to use my optoisolotor and an arduino
[16:43] <jcoxon> interface to the mic port of the radio
[16:43] <edmoore> v smart
[16:44] <edmoore> i guess you can interface to the radio mic and tx too
[16:44] <edmoore> in case you ever needed to...
[16:44] <jcoxon> yeah
[16:45] <jcoxon> oooo actually edmoore are you free to test vnc into my box?
[16:45] <jcoxon> just want to see what sort of speed it is
[16:45] <edmoore> yes, give me 2 mins to d/l chicjen
[16:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:46] <edmoore> chicken*
[16:50] <edmoore> jcoxon: ok go for it
[16:53] <jcoxon> how does fldigi look?
[16:53] <jcoxon> could you correct the freq?
[16:54] <edmoore> sorry let me try - didn't mean to close it down
[16:55] <jcoxon> its got quite a good AFC
[16:55] <jcoxon> then in the terminal is the python code to upload it
[16:55] <jcoxon> just press up and enter
[16:55] <jcoxon> (remember my keyboard is broken)
[16:56] <jcoxon> cool thats uploading nicely
[16:56] <edmoore> cool
[16:56] <edmoore> will d/c
[16:56] <jcoxon> okay
[16:56] <jcoxon> what was the speed like?
[16:56] <edmoore> unless you want to me test anything else
[16:56] <jcoxon> usable
[16:56] <edmoore> more than adequate
[16:56] <jcoxon> not right now
[16:56] <jcoxon> perhaps once i add the radio bit
[16:56] <edmoore> it works very well as a system
[16:57] <edmoore> and i'm on a pretty slow connection
[16:57] <jcoxon> cool i'm quite impressed with fldigi
[16:57] <jcoxon> and it works natively on mac, windows and linux
[16:57] <jcoxon> might be perfect for the distributed system
[16:57] <jcoxon> also has a nice log file
[16:57] <edmoore> free?
[16:57] <jcoxon> yup
[16:58] <jcoxon> http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
[16:58] <edmoore> neat
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[16:59] <jcoxon> right now to play with this optocoupler
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[17:52] <edmoore> hi rjharrison_
[17:53] <rjharrison_> hi ed
[17:53] <rjharrison_> Have you got that radio working yet
[17:53] <edmoore> wanted to ask you what roof whip you ended up getting and how you rate it?
[17:53] <edmoore> rjharrison_: am on radiowrold right now to that end
[17:53] <rjharrison_> I got a mag mount 2m & 70 cms as i didn't want the extra length
[17:53] <edmoore> been distracted the last 36hrs
[17:53] <rjharrison_> about 50 quid is
[17:53] <rjharrison_> ish
[18:04] <edmoore> rjharrison_: i recks it's worth a punt for the money http://www.radioworld.co.uk/~radio/catalog/mfj1724b-dualband-mobile-whip-antenna-with-mount-p-2370.html?osCsid=17f3b434f00d6d202ff20f2701f29bcf
[18:05] <gordonjcp> I've got one like that
[18:05] <gordonjcp> it works
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[19:14] <fergusnoble> edmoore: chris bishop is on
[19:15] <fergusnoble> channel 5
[19:15] <edmoore> yep
[19:15] <edmoore> watching
[19:15] <edmoore> ta
[19:15] <fergusnoble> ok, going to watch
[19:15] <fergusnoble> bye
[19:15] <edmoore> he's definitely less camp in the flesh
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[20:43] <jcoxon> evening G8KHW
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[21:18] <jcoxon> :-D
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[21:18] <jcoxon> computer controlled radio - complete
[21:18] <edmoore> ooo ooo ooo
[21:19] <edmoore> can i try?
[21:19] <jcoxon> give me 20mins and i might also have pictures of the freq screen
[21:19] <edmoore> you've got it
[21:20] <jcoxon> its breadboard and messy
[21:20] <jcoxon> but if you send 'u' or 'd' it goes up or down
[21:21] <jcoxon> G8KHW, you around this saturday for a launch?
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[21:21] <G8KHW> should be
[21:22] <jcoxon> rjharrison, was considering a launch
[21:22] <jcoxon> a test of his rtty beacon
[21:23] <G8KHW> sure - do we need helium - I only have about 1.5cu m at the mo
[21:23] <jcoxon> ummm
[21:23] <jcoxon> ping rjharrison
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[21:24] <Laurenceb> full house
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[21:28] <jcoxon> edmoore, hmmm i'm going to need a usb hub!
[21:29] <edmoore> wow
[21:29] <jcoxon> well cause i have an ibook i have to use my usb soundcard
[21:29] <jcoxon> which leaves one usb for the arduino
[21:30] <Laurenceb> larduino
[21:31] <Laurenceb> fanboyduino
[21:31] <jcoxon> haha
[21:31] <jcoxon> it just means i can prototype very quickly!
[21:32] <Laurenceb> sure sure
[21:32] <Laurenceb> it gets a bit much sometimes
[21:32] <Laurenceb> all the arduino madness
[21:33] <jcoxon> a little
[21:33] <rjharrison> jcoxon whats that rtty prog called?
[21:33] <edmoore> glossy or matte?
[21:33] <jcoxon> fldigi
[21:33] <jcoxon> Laurenceb has used it before
[21:35] <Laurenceb> yes
[21:36] <Laurenceb> compiled it from source :P
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[21:50] <edmoore> jcoxon: any news?
[21:52] <jcoxon> hmmm, trying to sort out a webbased front end
[21:52] <jcoxon> for hte radio control
[21:52] <jcoxon> you are welcome to have a play if you want now though
[21:53] <Laurenceb> radio control?
[21:53] <jcoxon> i've linked my 790r to my arduino so you can change the freq up and down
[21:54] <edmoore> jcoxon: you'll have to remid me of the settings
[21:54] <edmoore> lost them when irc crashed
[21:57] <Xenion> good night folks / gute nacht pennt jut ! :-)
[21:57] <jcoxon> night Xenion
[22:01] <Laurenceb> nice stuff
[22:01] <Laurenceb> so you have full control over the web?
[22:01] <Laurenceb> can you listen to the audio remotely?
[22:02] <Laurenceb> guess you need a roof mounted yagi pointing towards cambridge
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[22:17] <jcoxon> edmoore, got it working
[22:18] <edmoore> awesome
[22:18] <jcoxon> could someone test it
[22:18] <jcoxon> http://pegasus4.no-ip.org/~jamescoxon/jcoxon.php
[22:18] <jcoxon> set it to 434.647
[22:18] <jcoxon> then you can go up and down
[22:18] <jcoxon> and it'll keep track
[22:19] <jcoxon> 434.6440
[22:21] <edmoore> 644 as of now
[22:21] <jcoxon> yup
[22:24] <jcoxon> so you can vnc in to check the decoder and use the webbased thingy to change freq
[22:25] <edmoore> awesome
[22:25] <jcoxon> if i can find a usb hub i'll add my powershot with remote capture so its possible to take a picture to check the freq is correct
[22:28] <Laurenceb> hehe
[22:28] <Laurenceb> thats a bit of a convoluted way to do it
[22:29] <jcoxon> didn't want to open up my radio
[22:31] <fergusnoble> could you get it to take a picture and post it on the website every time you adjust?
[22:32] <jcoxon> quite possibly
[22:32] <fergusnoble> you could get it to automatically be cropped to just the screen
[22:32] <jcoxon> but i need another usbport
[22:32] <fergusnoble> and compressed
[22:32] <jcoxon> yeah
[22:32] <jcoxon> it wouldn't be difficult at all
[22:32] <jcoxon> if someone is keeping an eye on things on vnc then it should escape us
[22:33] <jcoxon> and if the team relay back the correct freq to receive and the radio is preset on a standard freq
[22:35] <fergusnoble> i wonder if you could take a screenshot, crop it and post the spectrum from truetty
[22:35] <jcoxon> applescript might work
[22:35] <jcoxon> i'm using fldigi right now
[22:35] <jcoxon> as its a ppc ibook
[22:36] <jcoxon> works fine (i think its a new version)
[22:36] <Laurenceb> is it working ok?
[22:36] <Laurenceb> ok
[22:36] <jcoxon> yeah
[22:36] <jcoxon> its as good perhaps better
[22:36] <Laurenceb> yeah I had some issues
[22:36] <jcoxon> and its cross platform
[22:36] <jcoxon> yeah its 3.03
[22:36] <fergusnoble> jcoxon: look up the command screencapture
[22:36] <Laurenceb> it may well have been my sound hardware
[22:37] <fergusnoble> that would be a brilliant hack :)
[22:37] Action: Laurenceb would get access to the display
[22:40] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, http://pegasus4.no-ip.org/~jamescoxon/screen.png
[22:43] <fergusnoble> so get the script to capture the screen, then use imagemagik to crop out just the waterfall area, and then include that image in the webpage
[22:43] <fergusnoble> the downside is you cant move the window :)
[22:47] <Laurenceb> but how do you know for sure where the scanner is set?
[22:48] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, you don't, its more like dead reckoning
[22:48] <jcoxon> so i'll position the radio freq at a point
[22:48] <jcoxon> and then its up or down from there
[22:48] <Laurenceb> yeah course
[22:49] <Laurenceb> you only really need the waterfall
[22:49] <Laurenceb> then you can spot the signal
[22:49] <jcoxon> then you can vnc into the machine and correct the signal
[22:49] <fergusnoble> ideally you would have both, but can work up to that
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[23:02] <jcoxon> grrr getting imagemagick is harder then i thought
[23:03] <jcoxon> as i'm on a ppc with tiger with a bust cdrom drive and now xcode dev tools and therefore no gcc
[23:03] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:03] <jcoxon> poor laptop
[23:04] <Laurenceb> its a bit chilly here
[23:04] <Laurenceb> -6 C
[23:04] <Laurenceb> bet its colder at natrium42s end :P
[23:05] <fergusnoble> jcoxon: maybe you could do it with sips
[23:07] <edmoore> night all
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[23:09] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, just checking out applescript
[23:33] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, http://pegasus4.no-ip.org/~jamescoxon/jcoxon.php
[23:34] <jcoxon> at the moment it just takes a screenshot every 60secs
[23:34] <fergusnoble> sweet
[23:34] <jcoxon> i'm wondering if there is a better way
[23:36] <Laurenceb> every time you click something?
[23:36] <jcoxon> we want this :-) http://pegasus4.no-ip.org/~jamescoxon/jcoxon.php
[23:36] <jcoxon> nice peaks
[23:36] <jcoxon> perhaps an update image button
[23:36] <jcoxon> which reruns the screencapture script
[23:39] <Laurenceb> hey nice
[23:39] <Laurenceb> hows that working?
[23:39] <jcoxon> right now?
[23:39] <Laurenceb> yeah
[23:40] <jcoxon> a script, screencapture ,resize, sleep, loop
[23:41] <Laurenceb> I'd make it update every time you click some button
[23:43] <natrium42> jcoxon, ooh, nice
[23:43] <jcoxon> need to cool my laptop down a bit
[23:43] <Laurenceb> http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/Airs.html
[23:43] Action: Laurenceb wants
[23:47] <Laurenceb> AIRS consists of a beryllium sphere that floats in a fluorocarbon fluid
[23:47] <Laurenceb> it couldnt get any madder
[23:48] <natrium42> lol
[23:48] <natrium42> did they try reversing polarity?
[23:51] <rjharrison> Ok I have one temp sensor working. Should it be in the box or out of it?
[23:52] <rjharrison> ie internal or external temp
[23:52] <natrium42> one in and one out
[23:52] <natrium42> :)
[23:52] <jcoxon> i say internal
[23:55] <Laurenceb> external
[23:55] <Laurenceb> physics ftw
[23:58] Action: natrium42 measures Laurenceb's heat conductivity
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