highaltitude.log.20081226

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[02:15] Action: SpeedEvil does not need http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hypersonic-High-Temperature-Dynamics-Second-Education/dp/1563477807/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230252112&sr=8-13
[02:16] <SpeedEvil> And I really shouldn't consider buying it.
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[08:54] <jcoxon> hehe, http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:irc_channel
[08:54] <jcoxon> couldn't sleep last night
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[10:56] <edmoore> natrium42: ping
[10:56] <edmoore> or infact anyone linuxey
[10:56] <edmoore> ed is in dire straights
[11:07] <edmoore> rjharrison: ping too
[11:12] <edmoore> you'll know your bananas on this one
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[11:34] Action: SpeedEvil arrives too late.
[12:10] Nick change: Bluenarf -> EI5GTB
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[12:40] <rjharrison> hi RocketBoy thanks for the dacs]
[12:45] <rjharrison> They arrived the day before yesterday as the paypal address I sent you was my perviouse
[12:45] <rjharrison> previouse
[12:45] <rjharrison> Thanks very much will inform you of progress
[12:45] Action: SpeedEvil passes rjharrison a scrabble tile-holder, with the letters 'previous' on it.
[12:46] <rjharrison> lol
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:46] Action: SpeedEvil has been correcting silly peoples spelling on wikipedia.
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> People 'correcting' 'pervious concrete' (concrete with holes) to 'previous concrete'
[12:48] <RocketBoy> it needs to be done :-)
[12:49] <RocketBoy> rjharrison - if you have problems with them let me know - I have used the parallel one in a prevous project me thinks
[12:49] <rjharrison> Cool. I have the data sheets printed so fingers crossed should be good
[13:13] <EI5GTB> what are we up to?
[13:16] Action: RocketBoy thinks that its a DAC for a RTTY transmitter - but I might be wrong
[13:20] <EI5GTB> cool
[13:20] Action: EI5GTB has only ever played with adcs
[13:20] Action: EI5GTB must start playing eith dacs
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[19:28] <natrium42> where is mr. coxon?
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[20:02] <RocketBoy> oooooooo Sunday Looks good JetStream wise
[20:03] <natrium42> who's launching?
[20:09] <RocketBoy> No one as far as I know - pity
[20:59] <rjharrison> It's going to be too soon for me I'm thinking more like the 4th or the following w/e
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[21:10] <edmoore> rjharrison: yo
[21:20] <edmoore> or natrium42
[21:24] <natrium42> hi edmoore
[21:25] <edmoore> yo
[21:25] <edmoore> so am cut off from internet
[21:25] <natrium42> what happened?
[21:25] <edmoore> but not very well, as you can tell
[21:25] <edmoore> a problem with direct debit
[21:25] <edmoore> and the idiots aren't back till monday
[21:26] <natrium42> ouch
[21:26] <edmoore> it looks like they've just blocked the http port
[21:26] <edmoore> because i can still do this and skype and ssh and stuff
[21:26] <natrium42> irc still works?
[21:26] <natrium42> oh
[21:26] <natrium42> so just use an ssh tunnel
[21:26] <edmoore> so... do you know some cunning way to pipe http through ssh or somesuch?
[21:26] <natrium42> let me google it, it has been a while
[21:27] <natrium42> are you on linux?
[21:27] <SpeedEvil> Just tell us the pages, and we'll get back to you with the content
[21:27] <SpeedEvil> tor might work
[21:27] <natrium42> lol
[21:27] <natrium42> SpeedEvil, ssh tunnel is really easy to set up
[21:27] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> do you have an external ssh box?
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> man ssh and /SOCKS
[21:28] <edmoore> not really
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> oh
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> what ISP?
[21:28] <edmoore> the eng department seems to be locked down
[21:29] <natrium42> edmoore, "ssh -f user@personal-server.com -L 8080:personal-server.com:80 -N"
[21:29] <edmoore> the cusf web server might work actually
[21:29] <natrium42> then set up browser to use proxy: localhost:8080
[21:29] <edmoore> natrium42: how do I then undo that when things start working?
[21:29] <edmoore> ok
[21:29] <natrium42> err wait
[21:29] <edmoore> nvm
[21:29] <edmoore> so the ssh thing is only temporary
[21:29] <natrium42> that won't work XD
[21:29] <edmoore> ok
[21:29] <edmoore> am using lynx on CUSF webserver atm
[21:30] <natrium42> you need to run a proxy server on the host :S
[21:30] <edmoore> that just closed
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[21:30] <natrium42> yeah
[21:31] <edmoore> well, i probably will upset the SRCF guys if I set that up on their server
[21:31] <natrium42> you can use remote X
[21:31] <natrium42> if the server has that available
[21:34] <edmoore> no
[21:34] <edmoore> keeps reseting me if I try that - tried it initially
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.torproject.org/
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> Does itt just disturb your DNS?
[21:35] <SpeedEvil> you can't automatedly pay the bill with CC?
[21:36] <edmoore> obviously i can't get on torproject.org
[21:36] <edmoore> and their online payment system is broken and errors when you tried to load it
[21:37] <edmoore> and they're not in the office until monday
[21:37] <edmoore> so the issue is as I described it initially
[21:39] <edmoore> my ssh keep reseting after a certain time too
[21:39] <edmoore> that's annoying
[21:41] <SpeedEvil> payment?
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> Oh - I meant lynx
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> Or I could just dcc you the binary
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> what OS?
[21:42] <edmoore> os x
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> Mac
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> Universal Binary (OSX 10.4 & 10.5)
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> sound right?
[21:42] <edmoore> perfect thanks
[21:43] <SpeedEvil> 'dmg' ?
[21:43] <edmoore> yep
[21:43] <edmoore> disc image
[21:45] <SpeedEvil> is that working?
[21:45] <SpeedEvil> you should have incoming dcc
[21:46] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:46] <edmoore> grans ta :)
[21:46] <edmoore> grand*
[21:47] <edmoore> 250bps
[21:48] <edmoore> blimey
[21:48] <SpeedEvil> Ah.
[21:48] <edmoore> gone up again now
[21:48] <SpeedEvil> That's a kinda brutal throttle.
[21:48] <edmoore> it is a bit!
[21:49] <SpeedEvil> ùíù DCC Remote edmoore closed dcc send
[21:49] <edmoore> ?
[21:49] <SpeedEvil> Want to try again - the main package is 17M?
[21:49] <edmoore> it's probably not worth it at 400bps
[21:50] <edmoore> it would be quicker to wait for monday
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> :/
[21:55] <edmoore> SpeedEvil: the doc still seems to be downloading at my end
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> That is odd.
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> It says it's not at my end :)
[21:56] <edmoore> 147bps
[21:56] <edmoore> actually no
[21:57] <edmoore> it's stuck on 91.7kb downloaded
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[22:00] <Laurenceb> hello
[22:00] <SpeedEvil> Hello!
[22:01] Action: Laurenceb has been decorating
[22:01] <Laurenceb> very boring
[22:01] <SpeedEvil> You need another l for that
[22:02] <Laurenceb> ?
[22:02] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: Laurencelb
[22:03] <Laurenceb> why?
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Llewelyn-Bowen
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> christmas decorations, or painting walls?
[22:03] <Laurenceb> oh god
[22:03] <Laurenceb> ok
[22:03] <Laurenceb> painting panelling under stairs
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> Hot pink? Or magnolia.
[22:03] <Laurenceb> white
[22:04] <Laurenceb> my second name is Llewelyn as it happens
[22:05] Action: SpeedEvil has been doing concrete sculpture on xmas day.
[22:05] <Laurenceb> what of?
[22:05] <SpeedEvil> Well - to the limited extent of climbing up on my roof to apply a 1.5cm skin of concrete over my gable end.
[22:05] <SpeedEvil> It was either that, or the queens speech.
[22:06] <Laurenceb> omg
[22:06] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:irc_channel
[22:06] <Laurenceb> we can now see how #highaltitude devoted we are
[22:07] <SpeedEvil> But the temporary covering had fallen off, and I needed to get it watertight before frost.
[22:08] Action: SpeedEvil applies to have the stats updated to reflect that I'm also shellevil :)
[22:09] <SpeedEvil> Oh. The other laurence isn't gay.
[22:10] <SpeedEvil> I'd always thought he was.
[23:01] <edmoore> that was a convincing zeusbot performance
[23:01] <edmoore> charming
[23:02] <RocketBoy> yeah I'm impressed not
[23:03] <edmoore> RocketBoy: got an ic-7000
[23:03] <edmoore> pre-credit-crunch-price-hike
[23:03] <edmoore> am ludicrously excited
[23:03] <edmoore> *but* comes without a PSU, arse
[23:03] <edmoore> will have to wait a couple of days
[23:04] <RocketBoy> a small battery pack should do you for a while
[23:05] <edmoore> indeed, though just put my last car battery in the dump, annoyingly
[23:05] <edmoore> but it was pretty knackered
[23:06] <RocketBoy> an ic-7000 eh - excellent rx perfomance IIR
[23:07] <edmoore> yeah
[23:07] <edmoore> 0.12uV on 70cm
[23:07] <SpeedEvil> edmoore: go and pick up another!
[23:07] <edmoore> cf ft-170 @ 0.16
[23:08] <edmoore> according to the brochures, anyway
[23:08] <edmoore> SpeedEvil: they've got up in price now since the £ collapsed
[23:08] <edmoore> so no way!
[23:08] <SpeedEvil> edmoore: at the dump
[23:08] <SpeedEvil> Same price!
[23:08] <edmoore> oh a batt
[23:08] <edmoore> thought you meant an ic-7000
[23:08] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:08] <SpeedEvil> no
[23:08] <edmoore> s'ok, have some hawker drycells that we used to use for robot wars robots
[23:09] <edmoore> before Ni-Cads became fashionable
[23:09] <edmoore> they're at my friends down the road
[23:09] <SpeedEvil> li-po should be the only battery allowed for robot wars.
[23:09] <edmoore> they have been very hesitantly recently allowed
[23:09] <edmoore> I know they make a good show
[23:10] <edmoore> but you don't want to be working near 48V/20Ah of potentially mangled and broken Li-Pos
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> true
[23:10] <edmoore> they'd create enough nasties to warrant clearing an arena of people too
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> If I was doing that, I'd want a nice battery case, with a real obvious vent.
[23:11] <RocketBoy> the 7000 has on onborad modem doesn't it?
[23:11] <edmoore> RocketBoy: yep
[23:11] <edmoore> psk31, aprs, rtty etc
[23:11] <RocketBoy> cool
[23:11] <RocketBoy> way cool in fact
[23:11] <edmoore> am looking forward to seeing how the rtty decoding performs
[23:12] <edmoore> it's got a pair of blackfins doing the DSP on it - that's some fairly heavy metal
[23:17] <natrium42> edmoore, i can set up a proxy for you if you want
[23:17] <RocketBoy> I gess they dsp sample at the lowest IF (probably 455KHz or similar)
[23:18] <edmoore> natrium42: that would be *awesome* if that's possible
[23:18] <natrium42> i think so
[23:18] <natrium42> looks like you only need http proxying
[23:18] <natrium42> DNS lookup works, right?
[23:19] <edmoore> well, I can ssh into poo.wee.bum.com so I guess so
[23:21] <natrium42> ok, try 72.136.18.113:8080
[23:22] <edmoore> what should I do with it?
[23:22] <natrium42> that's the proxy
[23:22] <natrium42> you should be able to put it somewhere in your browser config
[23:22] <SpeedEvil> ff?
[23:23] <edmoore> password needed?
[23:23] <natrium42> nah
[23:23] <natrium42> i will set up password after we get it working without it
[23:24] <edmoore> 'safari can't open the page'
[23:24] <natrium42> hmm
[23:25] <natrium42> try now
[23:25] <natrium42> no, wait
[23:25] <natrium42> now
[23:25] <natrium42> :)
[23:26] <natrium42> nvm, let me test first myself
[23:26] <edmoore> still no joy
[23:27] <natrium42> ok, now it should work
[23:28] <edmoore> noop
[23:28] <natrium42> it doesn't?
[23:28] Action: SpeedEvil tests
[23:28] <natrium42> works locally :S
[23:28] <edmoore> should i try socks?
[23:28] <natrium42> nah, it's http proxy
[23:28] <natrium42> SpeedEvil, any luck?
[23:29] <edmoore> 72.136.18.113:8080 web roxy (http)
[23:29] <SpeedEvil> works for me
[23:29] <natrium42> edmoore, check your settins :P
[23:29] <natrium42> *settings even
[23:29] Action: Laurenceb back
[23:29] <SpeedEvil> you may need to enter the 8080 in a seperate box
[23:29] <natrium42> edmoore, firefox?
[23:29] <edmoore> i have
[23:30] <Laurenceb> what you up to?
[23:30] <natrium42> perhaps they block 8080
[23:30] <edmoore> natrium42: safari, but it's a system-wide setting
[23:30] <SpeedEvil> It (the ISP) may be doing deep-packet inspection
[23:30] <natrium42> let me use a different port
[23:30] <edmoore> ok
[23:30] <SpeedEvil> In which case, it's looking to see if the connections are http, and if they are, blocking them
[23:31] <natrium42> edmoore, try port 22
[23:31] <SpeedEvil> again - works
[23:31] <natrium42> if they do deep packet inspection, we can use ssh tunneling
[23:32] <edmoore> no luck
[23:32] Action: SpeedEvil hugs ssh
[23:33] <natrium42> ok, let me see how to set up ssh tunneling again
[23:33] <edmoore> thank you awesomely
[23:34] <natrium42> sure thing
[23:34] <natrium42> i want to learn how to set this up :D
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> It's quite easy
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> set up an ssh account for him
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> and then man ssh
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> search for SOCKS
[23:34] <SpeedEvil> (at his end)
[23:35] Action: SpeedEvil has router problems ATM with incoming ssh's.
[23:35] <edmoore> i can never find socks
[23:35] <edmoore> and when I do, there's only 1
[23:39] <natrium42> i need to install sshd
[23:40] <edmoore> don't let me inconvenience you with this - I can be patient enough to wait till monday
[23:43] <natrium42> don't worry about it
[23:43] <edmoore> 's v kind of you
[23:46] <natrium42> ok, this should work
[23:46] <natrium42> ssh -f youraccount@yourcusfserver -L 8080:72.136.18.113:8080 -N
[23:47] <SpeedEvil> http://www.fukung.net/v/5242/177_idiot_38736.jpg
[23:47] <natrium42> then use SOCKS to localhost:8080
[23:47] <SpeedEvil> what you get if you piss off builders.
[23:48] <natrium42> edmoore, also make sure to remove the http proxy from before test
[23:49] <natrium42> it has to be SOCKS for persistent connection for the tunneling
[23:49] <edmoore> natrium42: you are a genius
[23:49] <edmoore> haha
[23:49] <natrium42> :D
[23:49] <edmoore> thank you!
[23:49] <natrium42> sure thing
[23:50] <natrium42> let me know once you get your intertubes back
[23:50] <natrium42> so that i can take down the proxy
[23:50] <edmoore> i will do yes
[23:50] <edmoore> thank you
[23:50] <edmoore> do i need to cancel the ssh tunnel thingamie too?
[23:50] <edmoore> or do i just disable the socks proxy to do that
[23:51] <natrium42> not sure i follow
[23:51] <natrium42> you mean to restore your browser to direct connection?
[23:51] <edmoore> yeah
[23:51] <edmoore> oh it just went down
[23:52] <edmoore> peer resets every now and then
[23:52] <natrium42> it stopped working?
[23:52] <edmoore> i guess i'll just re-enter
[23:52] <natrium42> ah
[23:52] <edmoore> it's not done that before - maybe it's a side effect of the bumming blockage
[23:53] <natrium42> maybe
[23:53] <natrium42> ideally i should set up an ssh account for you here
[23:53] <natrium42> but i don't run linux on my server :S
[23:53] <edmoore> not to worry
[23:53] <edmoore> this is fine
[23:53] <edmoore> thanks you!
[23:53] <natrium42> kk
[23:53] <edmoore> gets me my email till monday at least
[23:53] <edmoore> awesomeness
[23:54] <natrium42> np, enjoy :)
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