highaltitude.log.20081205

[00:00] <fergusnoble> hehe - extract from the parallax nearspace book:
[00:00] <fergusnoble> "You can't just throw the Flight Computer along with the flight battery, radio, GPS, and TNC into a
[00:00] <fergusnoble> Styrofoam box and launch it."
[00:02] <fergusnoble> can't you?
[00:04] <edmoore_> if only they knew
[00:05] <akawaka> haha
[00:06] <akawaka> s/'t//
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[00:22] <jcoxon> hey all
[00:22] <jcoxon> edmoore_, fergusnoble some excellent articles
[00:22] <jcoxon> i think the times on is the best
[00:22] <jcoxon> looking forward to seeing hte paper versions tomorrow
[00:23] <jcoxon> haha it'll be in the metro tomorrow
[00:24] <fergusnoble> hi james
[00:24] <jcoxon> hey fergusnoble
[00:24] <fergusnoble> its all quite strange isnt it
[00:24] <jcoxon> its great
[00:25] <fergusnoble> have you heard eds interview on five live?
[00:25] <jcoxon> very positive publictiy
[00:25] <jcoxon> not yet
[00:25] <jcoxon> no comments yet about risk etc
[00:26] <jcoxon> hehe i've posted the log i got off the radio
[00:26] <fergusnoble> posted it to where?
[00:26] <jcoxon> link for the interview?
[00:27] <fergusnoble> no, it would seem nobody has really got angry with us, even on the internets
[00:27] <jcoxon> http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/wiki/doku.php/data:nova9
[00:27] <jcoxon> its all good news
[00:27] <jcoxon> if today was weird tomorrow will be even more when its actually printed
[00:27] <fergusnoble> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fivelive/5lsotd/5lsotd_20081204-1832a.mp3
[00:30] <jcoxon> love the interview
[00:30] <jcoxon> good work edmoore_
[00:30] <jcoxon> right i've got a day of revision tomorrow -- woohoo
[00:31] <jcoxon> fergusnoble, would be cool if you guys collected copy of the article from each paper
[00:31] <jcoxon> i'll pick up the metro and other london papers tomorrow for you
[00:31] <fergusnoble> awesome
[00:31] <fergusnoble> i plan to get the main papers tomorrow
[00:31] <fergusnoble> im sure the others will too
[00:32] <jcoxon> right well be prepared for an onslaught
[00:32] <jcoxon> term over tomorrow/
[00:32] <jcoxon> ?
[00:34] <jcoxon> right bed for me
[00:34] <jcoxon> night
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[01:10] <soneil> a little late, but just caught the 5live spot. great stuff.
[01:10] <soneil> hopign EI5GTB can find a polite way to wave it in some faces at the IAA, see if he can ease their fears
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[08:30] <Bluenarf> morning
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[08:33] <rjharrison_> Morning
[08:36] <gordonjcp> morning
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[09:03] <jcoxon> morning all
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[10:20] <Laurenceb> hello
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[10:23] <Laurenceb> hi edmoore_
[10:23] <edmoore_> fergusnoble: I can't get through - phone being odd
[10:24] <edmoore_> please ping me
[10:26] <gordonjcp> http://www.vernk.com/Construction/AngelfireGpsPayload.htm
[10:27] <Laurenceb> oh wow
[10:27] <gordonjcp> from ##amateur-radio
[10:29] <Laurenceb> hmm the gps will cut out
[10:29] <Laurenceb> but full marks for effort :P
[10:30] <gordonjcp> why will the GPS cut out, not designed for that speed?
[10:30] <Laurenceb> they cut out at 515M/s
[10:33] <Laurenceb> what you really need is gps pseudoranges input into your IMU
[10:34] <jcoxon> it did work though
[10:35] <jcoxon> they got a nice gps trace
[10:37] <Laurenceb> yeah
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[11:06] <fergusnoble> edmoore_: whats up?
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[11:57] <Laurenceb> EI5GTB: about?
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[13:04] <Laurenceb> fergusnoble: you were on the TV
[13:05] <Laurenceb> bbc news24
[13:05] <jcoxon> Laurenceb: how do you monitor all these news outlets?
[13:06] <Laurenceb> I talk to my press assistant
[13:06] <jcoxon> oh i thought there must be other people involved
[13:06] <Laurenceb> :P
[13:06] <jcoxon> a whole team montioring the world
[13:07] <Laurenceb> actually we have a tv in the cafeteria
[13:07] <jcoxon> oh
[13:07] <jcoxon> thats not so exciting
[13:07] <Laurenceb> lol
[13:08] <Laurenceb> they only had photos
[13:08] <Laurenceb> I think channel 5 filmed to takeoff?
[13:09] <jcoxon> what time did you see it?
[13:10] <jcoxon> 1 o clock news?
[13:10] <Laurenceb> yep
[13:11] <jcoxon> might watch it later then
[13:11] <jcoxon> hope they get loads of funding :-)
[13:12] <jcoxon> from all this publicity
[13:12] <jcoxon> a national balloon centre :-)
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[14:48] <Laurenceb> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7767376.stm
[14:50] <jcoxon> wow
[14:50] <jcoxon> and they link it with the complaint of no british astronauts/paying so little to ESA
[14:51] <Laurenceb> hehe
[14:51] <Laurenceb> well everyone can thank us if the government starts funding astronauts
[14:52] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:52] <jcoxon> now that its on the bbc i expect slashdot will pick it up
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[15:03] <edmoore_> Sky News at 5pm today
[15:03] <edmoore_> if anyone's around
[15:10] <Laurenceb> hi, saw the photos on bbc
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[15:44] <EI5GTB> Laurenceb, i am now
[15:45] <Laurenceb> hi
[15:45] <Laurenceb> did you get the ADC working?
[15:45] <EI5GTB> yup :)
[15:45] <EI5GTB> the problem was... i had set all the bits
[15:46] <EI5GTB> exept the one that actually strated the conversions!
[15:46] <Laurenceb> lol
[15:46] <EI5GTB> comedy or what?
[15:46] <Laurenceb> :P
[15:46] <EI5GTB> but apparently... its too noisy running as an interupt at high speeds
[15:46] <Laurenceb> I've just got leds flashing with a spartan3
[15:46] <EI5GTB> so im just going to a conversion ass needed
[15:46] <EI5GTB> spartan3?
[15:46] <Laurenceb> yeah, how noisy is it
[15:47] <Laurenceb> ?
[15:47] <EI5GTB> about 30/1024
[15:47] <EI5GTB> the last time i done it with the same hardware it was rock solid
[15:47] <Laurenceb> +-30?
[15:47] <EI5GTB> well, += 15
[15:48] <Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xilinx
[15:48] <Laurenceb> ok
[15:48] <Laurenceb> what are you generating the voltages with?
[15:48] <Laurenceb> potetiometer?
[15:49] <EI5GTB> yea
[15:49] <Laurenceb> theres lots of tricks to reduce noise, stick a cap on Vref, turn on the prescaler, put a cap on the potentiometer pin ect
[15:51] <EI5GTB> tried caps everywhere..
[15:52] <EI5GTB> prascaler at 128 was noisy
[15:52] <Laurenceb> :P
[15:52] <EI5GTB> at 8 was better
[15:52] <EI5GTB> but the app seemed to slow down
[15:52] <Laurenceb> it will take longer to convert
[15:53] <Laurenceb> 8?
[15:53] <Laurenceb> you mean 8 as the actual prescaler register setting?
[15:53] <EI5GTB> yea
[15:54] <EI5GTB> it might be a figment of my imagination
[15:55] <EI5GTB> but its += 2 or 3 now
[15:55] <EI5GTB> which isnt to bad
[15:55] <EI5GTB> so a .1 second average will do the trick
[15:55] <EI5GTB> .5 rahter
[15:56] <Laurenceb> if you have a little bit of noise like that, averaging will actually work better
[15:56] <EI5GTB> yea
[15:56] <Laurenceb> and you can gety a greater effective resolution from the adc
[15:56] <EI5GTB> yea
[15:57] <Laurenceb> they take that approach to the extreme on some gps frontends with 1 bit ADC
[15:57] <EI5GTB> im making a system to dectect if its windy or not, and if its windy it will apply a break
[15:57] <Laurenceb> cool
[15:57] <EI5GTB> 1bit adc
[15:57] <Laurenceb> haha
[15:57] <Laurenceb> basically a comparator
[15:58] <EI5GTB> oh, ok
[15:58] <EI5GTB> heh
[15:58] <Laurenceb> < or >0
[15:58] <EI5GTB> ha
[15:58] <EI5GTB> the hardest part of this whole thing its getting that actuall reading from my rotator
[15:58] <Laurenceb> rotator?
[15:59] <Laurenceb> what are you using?
[15:59] <EI5GTB> yea, its an az/el rotator
[15:59] <EI5GTB> using an old heavy duty cctv rotator
[16:01] <Laurenceb> cool
[16:01] <Laurenceb> ah so you have an antenna on it?
[16:02] <EI5GTB> yea
[16:02] Action: EI5GTB finds pics
[16:02] <EI5GTB> ill have a sattelite dish on it too :)
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[16:03] <Laurenceb> so you want to turn it off if its windy?
[16:03] <EI5GTB> http://paulsnet.org/images/ham/rotator/
[16:03] <EI5GTB> no, if its windy it will mean it will be starting to drift..
[16:03] <EI5GTB> so it will bring it back to where it should be and put a brake on
[16:03] <EI5GTB> thats just a side feature
[16:03] <Laurenceb> meow
[16:04] <EI5GTB> the man thing is getting the controller donw
[16:04] <EI5GTB> it will be a fully computer controlled rotator with manual override
[16:04] <Laurenceb> ok
[16:04] <Laurenceb> interesting approach with the fibrglass
[16:04] <EI5GTB> all controlled from an acrt :D
[16:05] <EI5GTB> heh, yea
[16:05] <EI5GTB> that was just an experiment
[16:05] <EI5GTB> worked quite well
[16:06] <Laurenceb> http://paulsnet.org/images/ham/testdigi.jpg
[16:06] <Laurenceb> ^ just dont leave that in iraq
[16:07] <EI5GTB> lol
[16:18] <fergusnoble> Laurenceb: when abouts on the show was it? near the end?
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[16:31] <Laurenceb> it was on around 1pm
[16:35] <edmoore> what was that?
[16:36] <edmoore> i shit we're being dugg
[16:36] <edmoore> hold onto your servers!
[16:37] <fergusnoble> only 4 diggs
[16:37] <fergusnoble> its ok
[16:37] <fergusnoble> just hope nobody submits it to slashdot
[16:37] <edmoore> erm
[16:37] <edmoore> 127
[16:38] <edmoore> and rising fast
[16:38] <edmoore> 142
[16:38] <edmoore> 149
[16:39] <edmoore> will email srcf
[16:39] <Laurenceb> diggs?
[16:39] <Laurenceb> I'm flashing leds with my spartan3 :D
[16:40] <edmoore> 157
[16:40] <Laurenceb> lol
[16:40] <edmoore> ok we're being properly dugg
[16:40] <Laurenceb> link?
[16:41] <edmoore> digg.com
[16:41] <Laurenceb> omg front page
[16:43] <edmoore> yes Laurenceb
[16:43] <edmoore> that's what being dugg involves
[16:43] <edmoore> waves and waves and waves
[16:44] <Laurenceb> ok ok
[16:44] <Laurenceb> ever used modelsim?
[16:45] <Laurenceb> nvm got it working now
[16:45] <Laurenceb> fpgas are cool :D
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[16:48] <Laurenceb> you need 100 diggs to get to the front page or something?
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[17:51] <EI5GTB> anuyone got a link to the digg page?
[17:51] <Laurenceb> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1091896/Bears-space-Schoolchildrens-teddies-pictured-30km-Earth-strapped-giant-weather-balloon.html
[17:52] <Laurenceb> oops
[17:52] <Laurenceb> http://digg.com/space/Schoolchildren_s_teddies_pictured_30km_above_Earth
[17:53] <akawaka> "Dude, the most mind blowing part of this story for me is that a bunch of school children basically put a balloon, some teddy bears, a camera, and what looks like a shoebox wrapped in foil far enough out of the atmosphere to get a shot like that."
[17:53] <akawaka> you damn kids!
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[17:55] <EI5GTB> heh
[17:56] <EI5GTB> wow, 480 diggs!
[17:58] <Laurenceb> yes we are a bunch of school children with shoeboxes
[17:59] <Laurenceb> http://www.atmosculator.com/
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[18:15] <EI5GTB> ".....balloons and are designing a system to launch a rocket from a balloon platform to out space for under £1,000 a go."
[18:15] <EI5GTB> Go kids! " LOL
[18:16] <Laurenceb> over 500 diggs
[18:17] <EI5GTB> nce
[18:17] <EI5GTB> going well!
[18:21] <EI5GTB> and rising by the minute
[18:21] <EI5GTB> literall
[18:21] <EI5GTB> y
[18:37] <natrium42> fergusnoble, teddynauts were featured on Discovery Channel Canada
[18:37] <natrium42> yesterday
[18:41] <fergusnoble> natrium42: apparently they are going to do a more extended piece on monday or tuesday i think
[18:41] <fergusnoble> rob a is going to field it
[18:41] <natrium42> awesomeness :D
[18:42] <fergusnoble> yeah, its really cool
[18:42] <fergusnoble> bbiab
[18:42] <natrium42> later
[18:51] <Laurenceb> its over 600 !!!
[18:53] <natrium42> so not OVER 9000?
[18:53] <natrium42> oh, digg?
[18:53] Action: natrium42 diggs
[19:00] <Laurenceb> cya all
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[19:32] <jcoxon> woohoo
[19:32] <jcoxon> i've repaired my old ibook laptop
[19:32] <EI5GTB> woo! join the club
[19:33] <jcoxon> replaced the logic board with one off ebay
[19:33] <jcoxon> that said its totally inappropriate as its for a 14" and its 1.33Ghz compared to my original 12" 800Mhz
[19:35] <jcoxon> oh well its pretty much works apart from the keyboard
[19:35] <EI5GTB> i repaird an old powerbook
[19:35] <EI5GTB> its pretty useless like 400mhz 256mb ram
[19:35] <jcoxon> mine is now 1.33Ghz with 256mb
[19:35] <jcoxon> hmmmmm
[19:35] <akawaka> laptops make pretty good home servers
[19:36] <akawaka> quiet, low power consumption
[19:36] <jcoxon> yeah
[19:36] <EI5GTB> hmm, yea
[19:36] <jcoxon> i'm a bit worried about the detached heat sinks :-p
[19:36] <jcoxon> the keyboard doesn't work
[19:36] <EI5GTB> linux would run a treat on the mac
[19:36] <EI5GTB> hmm, why would i need another server tho...
[19:36] <EI5GTB> lol, i have too many
[19:36] <jcoxon> think it might be a different keybord module
[19:36] <jcoxon> yeah i already have a cupboard server
[19:36] <akawaka> a NAS or something
[19:38] <akawaka> my gf bought a really nice armoire that happens to be going next to the cable modem and routers and stuff
[19:38] <akawaka> shes totally gonna love the server i jam in there
[19:40] <jcoxon> haha
[19:43] <akawaka> so johan moved to maine so i got no one to do balloon stuff with now
[19:51] <EI5GTB> anyone have a timestamp on the first thing i said in here in a while
[19:51] <EI5GTB> <EI5GTB> woo! join the club
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[19:52] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:52] <EI5GTB> ?
[19:52] Action: EI5GTB is doing some startrail photography..
[19:52] <jcoxon> i was laughing at woo! join the club
[19:52] <EI5GTB> lol, and i dont know how long my camera has been exposing
[19:53] <natrium42> edmoore, discovery channel canada showed you guys yesterday :D
[19:53] <EI5GTB> :O
[19:53] <edmoore> they are interviewing us monday
[19:53] <natrium42> i PVRd it, if you want it
[19:53] <natrium42> oh, crazy
[19:53] <edmoore> 5 mins on some show
[19:53] <EI5GTB> COOL!
[19:54] <jcoxon> who would of thought - it was the teddys that did it
[19:54] <EI5GTB> lol, youd swear you were the first to launch an amateur baloon
[19:56] <jcoxon> stuff the keyboard i'll ssh in
[19:56] <jcoxon> i'm so pleased this is working again
[19:56] <EI5GTB> heh
[19:56] <jcoxon> its my favourite laptop
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[19:57] <jcoxon> now i need a better screwdriver to remove the old logic board and reattach the new one
[20:10] <edmoore> the teddies really seem to have done it
[20:10] <EI5GTB> yup
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[20:11] <Laurenceb> hello
[20:12] <EI5GTB> just the man!
[20:12] <EI5GTB> remember we got printf working last night?
[20:12] <EI5GTB> well... is there any way of sending it to another stream?
[20:12] <EI5GTB> as well
[20:12] Action: EI5GTB looks at the program
[20:12] <EI5GTB> dont tell me yet
[20:13] <EI5GTB> oh, hmm, i thought it was like printf( "bla", stream)
[20:14] <Laurenceb> nope
[20:14] <Laurenceb> you have to create a new stream
[20:14] <Laurenceb> then set that stream to stdout
[20:14] <EI5GTB> dam
[20:14] <Laurenceb> or reset the existing stream to a new function
[20:14] <EI5GTB> cos i want to send ints to my lcd aswell...
[20:15] <Laurenceb> then set stdout=&stream
[20:15] <Laurenceb> you can do that by creating and lcd_stream
[20:15] <Laurenceb> then stdout=&lcd_stream
[20:15] <EI5GTB> and setting stdout just before i run printf?
[20:15] <EI5GTB> ah, yea
[20:15] <EI5GTB> ok
[20:15] <Laurenceb> ye
[20:15] <Laurenceb> :P
[20:17] <akawaka> what language?
[20:18] <EI5GTB> hmm, but how would i say "Elevation: int"
[20:18] <EI5GTB> good old C
[20:18] <akawaka> fprintf
[20:18] <EI5GTB> yea,, but i need to add those 2 strings...
[20:18] <EI5GTB> like, have a string "elevation: "
[20:18] <EI5GTB> and then add in the int
[20:18] <EI5GTB> and print it
[20:19] <akawaka> fprintf( stream, "Elevation: %d", the_int );
[20:19] <Laurenceb> good point, you could use fprintf
[20:19] <Laurenceb> but if you have fprintf ansd printf the code size will grow a bit?
[20:20] <akawaka> it will
[20:20] <akawaka> though printf internally will just to fprintf( ... )
[20:21] <Laurenceb> guess you could use fprintf for everything
[20:21] <Laurenceb> hmm wont grow much then
[20:22] <EI5GTB> whats the defference in fprintf
[20:22] <akawaka> the first parameter is a stream that is sends the output too
[20:22] <akawaka> fprintf( stdout, blah, blah ) is identical to printf( blah, blah )
[20:23] <akawaka> there are a whole bunch of *printf functions that use the same string formatting parameters but to slightly different things
[20:23] <Laurenceb> so printf is just fprintf to stdout
[20:24] <EI5GTB> ah, so in fprintf i can set the stream?
[20:24] <EI5GTB> without having extra poo
[20:24] <Laurenceb> no, you setup the stream beforehand
[20:24] <akawaka> fprintf prints to a FILE stream, printf prints to the stdout FILE stream, sprintf prints to another string
[20:24] <Laurenceb> you can setup the streams at the start of the program
[20:25] <Laurenceb> FDEV_SETUP_STREAM
[20:26] <EI5GTB> ...hmm
[20:26] <EI5GTB> may be easier to continue the way im going
[20:26] <EI5GTB> dont understand all that other stuff..
[20:29] <Laurenceb> its not that hard
[20:29] <Laurenceb> a file stream is just a way to direct output/input
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[20:32] <Laurenceb> hi rocketboy
[20:33] <G8KHW> yo chaps
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[20:41] <EI5GTB> http://www.mapinc.org/norml/v08/n1071/a01.htm
[20:41] <EI5GTB> heh
[20:41] <EI5GTB> right, snack/tv timr
[20:41] <EI5GTB> e
[20:44] <Laurenceb> G8KHW: where did you find the c code for calculating atmospheric density in your landing spot prediction code?
[20:44] <jcoxon> hey G8KHW
[20:47] <G8KHW> Laurenceb: the algoithems were on a NASA site - I wrote the C
[20:48] <G8KHW> It was reasonably well tested as there was a table on the NASA site - and the C results and table were the same
[20:51] <Laurenceb> cool thanks
[20:51] <Laurenceb> I'm working on an optimal descent stratagy for gliders
[20:53] <Laurenceb> you integrate up from the landing spot to the current altitude scaling the wind by 1/the predicted decent rate for each layer
[20:53] <Laurenceb> then set the point you arrive at as the target
[20:54] <Laurenceb> so, e.g. there was strong tropospheric wind and the glider was in the stratosphere, your resulting point would be upwind of the landing spot
[20:54] <G8KHW> sounds like a plan
[20:55] <Laurenceb> so even if you couldnt "outrun" the wind in the troposphere, you could get far enough upwind in the stratosphere to land on target
[20:59] <G8KHW> Ok - so who are the maths wizz here
[20:59] <Laurenceb> but I need a good density estimate to find the cruise speed and hence the descent rate (using glide ratio)
[20:59] <Laurenceb> ... me ?
[20:59] <G8KHW> I have this maths problem I havn't got my head round yet
[21:00] <G8KHW> so here it is
[21:00] <G8KHW> I have a function G(x) which give the relationship between input x and output y
[21:01] <G8KHW> such that y = x . G(x)
[21:01] <G8KHW> I need to derive the reverse function x = y . G(y)
[21:02] <G8KHW> I need to find the input x for a given output y
[21:02] <Laurenceb> hmm
[21:03] <G8KHW> G(x) is somthing like 1 + A(x - x1) + B(x - x2) ...
[21:03] <Laurenceb> yeah
[21:03] <Laurenceb> ok
[21:04] <Laurenceb> x1 != x2 ?
[21:04] <G8KHW> but its a non continious function
[21:04] <G8KHW> yeah
[21:04] <Laurenceb> thats annoying
[21:04] <G8KHW> A(x - x1) is only active when x > x1
[21:04] <Laurenceb> arg
[21:05] <G8KHW> and B(x - x2) only active when x > x2
[21:05] <Laurenceb> yeah i see
[21:05] <G8KHW> sort of 1 + IF(x > x1,A * (x - x1),0) + ...
[21:06] <Laurenceb> hmm I'm not familiar with things like that sorry
[21:06] <G8KHW> where IF(contition,true,false) - if you see what i mean
[21:06] <Laurenceb> maybe #math can help ?
[21:06] <Laurenceb> yeah I get you
[21:09] <G8KHW> I know how to do it in C - I just make somthing that binary chops the input value until I get the desired output - but unfortunaly I can do it in C :-(
[21:09] <Laurenceb> whats it for?
[21:10] <G8KHW> i'll try the #maths guys
[21:10] <G8KHW> linearizing an amplifier
[21:10] <Laurenceb> not sure if they are any good
[21:10] <Laurenceb> or if its like a language channel :P
[21:23] <akawaka> so if a microcontroller lists the max source/sink current of an I/O pin as 20ma can i just connect a 20ma led to it without risk of damaging it?
[21:23] <Laurenceb> no
[21:23] <Laurenceb> 20ma is the max current
[21:23] <Laurenceb> you need to find the voltage drop across the led at 20ma
[21:23] <Laurenceb> then pic a suitable resistor
[21:24] <Laurenceb> so v_logic-v_led/resistor=0.02
[21:29] <akawaka> so i can't treat the pin as a constant current source?
[21:29] <Laurenceb> nope
[21:30] <Laurenceb> thats a recepie for white smoke
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[21:30] <Laurenceb> 20ma means you can draw 20ma before smoking the chip
[21:31] <akawaka> then how come the chip doesn't blow up when i just connect a pin directly to ground?
[21:32] <Laurenceb> DONT
[21:32] <Laurenceb> *gets fire extinguisher*
[21:33] <akawaka> come on
[21:33] <akawaka> i've seen that done a hundred times with no problems
[21:34] <Laurenceb> yes if its configured as an input
[21:35] <akawaka> ah ha
[21:35] <akawaka> good point
[21:35] <akawaka> thats what i was missing
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[22:10] <natrium42> moin Xenion
[22:14] <EI5GTB> heh, fire qxtinguishers!
[22:14] <EI5GTB> extinguishers
[22:14] <EI5GTB> the last day in engineering class, some dick put a rake of plastic into an anealing oven and turned it up to 800c
[22:14] <natrium42> it's good to have one :P
[22:15] <EI5GTB> i was working on the lathe when i saw a burst of flames from the other side of the room
[22:15] <EI5GTB> there was only 1 extinguisher, and i was beside it
[22:15] <EI5GTB> so i ran over, and let it off
[22:15] <EI5GTB> then, walking away, feeling chuffed with myself, it re-ignited
[22:15] <EI5GTB> took like 3 attemps
[22:16] <EI5GTB> great fun!
[22:16] <EI5GTB> its surprising how hard it is to get the dam pin out in the heat of the moment
[22:16] <akawaka> i had a very easily distracted engineering teacher
[22:17] <akawaka> i remember the first day he showed us how to light the oxy-actheline torch
[22:19] <akawaka> he opened the oxygen valve and then got distracted with some stupid story or anecdote for half a minute or so
[22:19] <akawaka> and then lit it
[22:21] <EI5GTB> HAHA
[22:21] <EI5GTB> BOOM!
[22:21] <EI5GTB> or was it KABOOM
[22:21] <EI5GTB> or WHOOSH
[22:24] <akawaka> it was a WHOMP!
[22:24] <akawaka> followed by a HAHA
[22:24] <akawaka> followed by a smell of singed hair
[22:25] <EI5GTB> heh
[22:25] <EI5GTB> im considering putting an avr into my final engineering project..
[22:26] <EI5GTB> and a little lcd..
[22:26] <EI5GTB> heh
[22:26] <EI5GTB> the examiner would probably think i payed someone top do it
[22:28] <akawaka> college or secondary school?
[22:33] <EI5GTB> secondary
[22:35] <Laurenceb> EI5GTB: I know its the other side of the board, but have you considered going to delfast uni?
[22:35] <Laurenceb> *belfast
[22:36] <Laurenceb> arg I cant tell the difference between b and d
[22:36] <EI5GTB> nope
[22:36] <EI5GTB> why would it?
[22:36] <EI5GTB> i*
[22:37] <akawaka> queens is a really good school
[22:38] <akawaka> whats the leaving cert project this year?
[22:38] <akawaka> personally I would recommend UL
[22:39] <EI5GTB> its a carusel...
[22:39] <Laurenceb> UL?
[22:39] <EI5GTB> with 4 "sequentially animated figures"
[22:40] <EI5GTB> ul?
[22:40] <EI5GTB> i bet you need honours math for EE in belfast..
[22:45] <Laurenceb> not sure how the education system works in Rep Ireland, sorry
[22:46] <EI5GTB> belfast is in britian
[22:49] <EI5GTB> well, ruled from..
[22:49] <EI5GTB> well. was
[22:49] <EI5GTB> lol
[22:50] <EI5GTB> you know what i mean
[22:51] <akawaka> fight!
[22:52] <Laurenceb> join the IRA
[22:52] <akawaka> UL = University of Limerick
[22:54] <EI5GTB> oh, lol
[22:55] <EI5GTB> naw, i decided to go to LYIT
[22:55] <EI5GTB> they dont need honours math
[22:55] <EI5GTB> which i dont have
[23:00] <akawaka> gotta eat my big fat burrito
[23:01] <EI5GTB> lul
[23:01] <EI5GTB> NOM! NOM! NOM!
[23:01] <EI5GTB> theres somthing so satisfying about taking the optics of a dvd burner apart!
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[23:45] <Laurenceb> EI5GTB: hacking the lazer?
[23:45] <EI5GTB> yup
[23:46] <EI5GTB> just after realising i need optics =/
[23:46] <EI5GTB> http://paulsnet.org/DSC_4387.JPG
[23:46] <Laurenceb> EI5GTB: glue it to a shark
[23:46] <EI5GTB> shark??
[23:46] <Laurenceb> meme
[23:46] <Laurenceb> careful not to burn it or your eyes out
[23:46] <EI5GTB> stfu zeusbot
[23:46] <natrium42> lol
[23:47] <natrium42> frikin sharks
[23:47] <EI5GTB> wtf is a shark?
[23:47] <Laurenceb> ?
[23:47] <EI5GTB> like... a sea shark?
[23:47] <Laurenceb> you know the thinks with fins
[23:47] <EI5GTB> why glue it to a shark?
[23:47] <Laurenceb> also a DSP from analogue devices
[23:47] <natrium42> frikin sharks with frikin lasers attached to their heads
[23:47] <natrium42> is that too much to ask?
[23:47] <Laurenceb> lmao
[23:48] <natrium42> trow me a frikin bone here
[23:48] Action: EI5GTB gets worries
[23:48] <Laurenceb> ask on /b/
[23:48] <EI5GTB> gife a man too much information and he goes crazy!
[23:48] <natrium42> EI5GTB, haven't watched the austin powers movies? :)
[23:48] <EI5GTB> dont think so
[23:48] <natrium42> :O
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