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[00:04] <fuzzylugnuts> gin gin gin. and HYDROGEN
[00:05] <Laurenceb> fuzzylugnuts: are you going slowly mad?
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[00:08] <fuzzylugnuts> hey, a man needs a little madness
[00:09] <fuzzylugnuts> the group in idaho I belong to is launching this weekend
[00:10] <fuzzylugnuts> I got the hooked on hydrogen
[00:10] <fuzzylugnuts> and they are testing my 8W aprs transmitters from byonics
[00:13] <fuzzylugnuts> Laurenceb: you should drink absinthe with me, then you will know
[00:14] <natrium42> don't you go blind?
[00:15] <fuzzylugnuts> nope
[00:15] <fuzzylugnuts> just really, really horny
[00:15] <natrium42> you have been drinking again :P
[00:16] <natrium42> fuzzylugnuts, what's they payload for that launch?
[00:16] <fuzzylugnuts> I got another bottle of bombay tonight.
[00:16] <natrium42> IRC and alcohol don't mix
[00:17] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: gumstix flight computer, vhf serial modem, the APRS transmitter, cameras, and maybe some 3rd graders experiments
[00:17] <fuzzylugnuts> IRC, shaken not stired
[00:18] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: just the stuff I have on ym webpage.
[00:18] <natrium42> coolz0r
[00:20] <fuzzylugnuts> why
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[00:20] <fuzzylugnuts> why is playdough scented like cherries
[00:21] <fuzzylugnuts> it was on "how its made" on the tv... it brought back memories of childhood
[00:23] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: they are going to use te gumstix for sensor logging and to control the cutdown device
[00:23] <fuzzylugnuts> like before
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[00:27] <fuzzylugnuts> its an under-used device, the gumstix, but its somewhere to start for them
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[00:29] <fuzzylugnuts> mmm
[00:29] <fuzzylugnuts> pomagranate
[00:30] <natrium42> ...
[00:32] <fuzzylugnuts> hey
[00:32] <fuzzylugnuts> when are you getting on HF?
[00:33] <natrium42> need to get my license first
[00:33] <natrium42> keep pushing it back... :/
[00:33] <fuzzylugnuts> how goes that process?
[00:33] <fuzzylugnuts> ah
[00:33] <fuzzylugnuts> I hear its alot different in Canada
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[00:42] <natrium42> i thought it was similar
[00:43] <fuzzylugnuts> to be honest I have no idea how it goes in canada
[00:43] <fuzzylugnuts> I was just making conversation : 3
[00:43] <natrium42> do you tx on HF?
[00:43] <fuzzylugnuts> oh yeah
[00:43] <fuzzylugnuts> I tx all over the hf
[00:44] <gordonjcp> bitches don't know 'bout my hf tx
[00:44] <natrium42> what mode?
[00:44] <fuzzylugnuts> damn straight
[00:46] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: ssb voice and packet
[00:46] <fuzzylugnuts> packet is awesome
[00:46] <fuzzylugnuts> I taked to a guy in alaska from pa with rtty using only 2.5w
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> thats a good 3000 miles
[00:47] <natrium42> what antenna are you using?
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> a tri beam up on a 60ft tower
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> it was my dads
[00:47] <gordonjcp> psk31 is pretty good
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> oh yes!
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> I love the psk
[00:47] <gordonjcp> have you seen websdr?
[00:47] <fuzzylugnuts> no, whats that
[00:48] <natrium42> i want a good antenna too :(
[00:48] <gordonjcp> http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
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[00:49] <fuzzylugnuts> gordonjcp: what is this my ears are hearing
[00:49] <fuzzylugnuts> remote radioness>
[00:49] <fuzzylugnuts> ?
[00:49] <gordonjcp> yup
[00:49] <natrium42> fuzzylugnuts, i have a 100' longwire 6 ft off the ground :S
[00:49] <gordonjcp> three bands, 80, 40 and 20
[00:49] <fuzzylugnuts> wow, cool
[00:49] <fuzzylugnuts> to both of you
[00:49] <gordonjcp> fuzzylugnuts: since it's sdr many people can use each frontend at the same time
[00:50] <natrium42> fuzzylugnuts, probably too low, eh? :/
[00:50] <fuzzylugnuts> that is just plain cool.
[00:50] <gordonjcp> on my laptop where I can capture from mix out, I've used gmfsk to decode rtty and psk31 off it
[00:50] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, gmfsk is cool
[00:50] <fuzzylugnuts> fldigi is nice too
[00:51] <fuzzylugnuts> I love OLIVIA
[00:52] <gordonjcp> heh
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[00:53] <gordonjcp> wtf is that rtty at 7055, that's mad
[00:53] <gordonjcp> it's so strong
[00:53] <Laurenceb> russian sub
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> thats what she said
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> and he said
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> and another he
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> er
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> she
[00:53] <Laurenceb> anyone tried picking up ELF ?
[00:53] <fuzzylugnuts> god I miss undergrad
[00:54] <fuzzylugnuts> nope
[00:54] <gordonjcp> Laurenceb: not yet
[00:54] <gordonjcp> although I plan on building a 60kHz loop while I'm off work
[00:54] <gordonjcp> got time now
[00:54] <fuzzylugnuts> gordonjcp: I only saw rtty on 3620
[00:54] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah?
[00:54] <Laurenceb> you could use a metal sheet
[00:54] <fuzzylugnuts> ULF?
[00:54] <gordonjcp> fuzzylugnuts: time signal
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[00:54] <Laurenceb> I made one with a pie dish
[00:55] <gordonjcp> fuzzylugnuts: are you not seeing that broad white band down the 7MHz scale?
[00:55] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah what is that
[00:55] <gordonjcp> rtty
[00:55] <fuzzylugnuts> looks like someone fells asleep ont hier key
[00:55] <Laurenceb> then some very high input impedance op amps
[00:55] <fuzzylugnuts> o_O
[00:55] <gordonjcp> I'm going to try and capture it
[00:55] <Laurenceb> your both getting it?
[00:56] <fuzzylugnuts> it just sounds like ringing
[00:56] <gordonjcp> Laurenceb: it's the same websdr site ;-)
[00:56] <Laurenceb> ah
[00:56] <Laurenceb> anyone know what the signal is on approc 440KHz
[00:56] <Laurenceb> on AM
[00:57] <fuzzylugnuts> aliens
[00:57] <Laurenceb> like morse code almost
[00:58] <fuzzylugnuts> gordonjcp: that looks like a harmonic from something. there is no acompanying strong line
[01:05] <fuzzylugnuts> I turned it off
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[01:14] <fuzzylugnuts> ok, time for some pink floyd
[01:14] <fuzzylugnuts> laters
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[01:21] <natrium42> all in all it's just another brick in the wall
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[10:52] <Laurenceb> http://www.stm32circle.com/hom/index.php
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> yeah - that's fun
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> and 25 quid
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[11:39] <Laurenceb> http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/doc2579.pdf
[11:43] <SpeedEvil> wassat?
[11:44] <Laurenceb> 1wire techniques with uC
[11:44] <SpeedEvil> ah
[11:56] <rjharrison> Laurenceb I have some bastardised code that does the one wire coms. I'm using it to drive a single temp sensor. U interested in the code?
[11:57] <Laurenceb> ok thanks
[11:57] <rjharrison> Is that a yes or are you ok and have it in hand?
[11:57] <Laurenceb> l<dot>blaxter<at>surrey/dot/ac/dot/uk
[11:57] <Laurenceb> if you want to email me it
[11:58] <rjharrison> Sure, The code is on my home pc I'll send it tonight or I could get the wife to zip it if you need it asap
[11:59] <rjharrison> It's a library and it's dead easy to use.
[11:59] <Laurenceb> cool
[11:59] <Laurenceb> I'm sure I can wait :P
[11:59] <rjharrison> Save you ploughing through all that doc.
[12:00] <rjharrison> Laurenceb PM'd you
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[13:32] <Laurenceb> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8889
[13:32] <Laurenceb> I want a connector for it :(
[13:36] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, i'm sure its a standard connector
[13:36] <Laurenceb> yeah datasheet gives some panasonic part
[13:37] <Laurenceb> guess its a question of trawling about farnell
[13:38] <Laurenceb> I really want a way to convert that into a cable
[13:43] <rjharrison> jcoxon Would you recommend logging all the gps strings or just the parsed ones on a beacon?
[13:44] <rjharrison> I'm thinking at one every 60 seconds I'm better off captureing the raw data every second to the logger
[13:45] <Laurenceb> rjharrison: log binary data
[13:46] <jcoxon> rjharrison, log everything
[13:46] <rjharrison> Humm the gps only kicks out NEMA and some propriatory crap. Logg the NEMA
[13:47] <rjharrison> NMEA even
[13:47] <Laurenceb> what gps?
[13:47] <rjharrison> LASSEN SKII
[13:47] <Laurenceb> TSIP?
[13:47] <jcoxon> yeah just log the relavent NMEA
[13:48] <rjharrison> Probably
[13:48] <jcoxon> perhaps just *GGA
[13:48] <Laurenceb> theres a TSIP parser on the wiki
[13:48] <rjharrison> Thanks jcoxon, no shortage of logspace 2gb
[13:49] <rjharrison> Laurenceb I'll have a look the advantage of TSIP over NMEA
[13:49] <Laurenceb> its easier to parse
[13:49] <rjharrison> Oh, Ok
[13:49] <Laurenceb> just write some C code
[13:50] <Laurenceb> to shove the data intoi a struct using pointers
[13:50] <rjharrison> I'll have a look I would have thought that it would have been the other way arround
[13:50] <Laurenceb> well it might be easy to parse NMEA but its not so neat
[13:50] <Laurenceb> your code will be much bigger
[13:50] <rjharrison> :)
[13:51] <Laurenceb> TSIP requires a state machine and some pointer fun
[13:51] <rjharrison> I did finite state manchines at uni. Well the mathmatics behind them :(
[13:51] <rjharrison> Pointer fun is cool
[13:51] <rjharrison> I like structs in C
[13:52] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:interrupt_driven_tsip
[13:52] <Laurenceb> whats it running on?
[13:52] <rjharrison> AVR atmega8
[13:52] <Laurenceb> cool
[13:52] <Laurenceb> 2gb ?!
[13:52] <Laurenceb> SD card?
[13:53] <rjharrison> logomatic v2
[13:53] <Laurenceb> ah
[13:53] <rjharrison> lazy :)
[13:53] <rjharrison> sparkfun
[13:53] <Laurenceb> its fairly easy to interface an SD card
[13:53] <Laurenceb> but I've yet to get FAT working with a free library
[13:53] <rjharrison> Perhaps for the future. I get FAT with the logomatic
[13:54] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:ultrahab_page <-- that used a closed library
[14:04] <Laurenceb> the suart_send routine can be deleted~: its just toi configure the gps when the payload is turned on
[14:05] <Laurenceb> the tx is used for the radio, so before interrupts are enabled, the configuration settings are bit banged in
[14:27] <Laurenceb> rjharrison: any luck?
[15:03] <rjharrison> Laurenceb soory just out for a coffee
[15:05] <rjharrison> I'll have a look at that code tonight
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[15:21] <edmoore> hello!!
[15:22] <jcoxon> hello edmoore
[15:23] <edmoore> yo
[15:23] <jcoxon> you seem excited
[15:23] <edmoore> al well?
[15:23] <edmoore> well, i have finished all my work for the week
[15:23] <edmoore> score!
[15:23] <jcoxon> fair enough
[15:23] <jcoxon> i'm grappling with singlet oxygen molecules and reactive oxidized biomolecules
[15:24] <jcoxon> which absorb at 630nm
[15:25] <jcoxon> whats the weather like tomorrow then?
[15:25] <edmoore> crap
[15:25] <edmoore> called off
[15:25] <edmoore> light blue
[15:25] <jcoxon> shame
[15:25] <Laurenceb> :(
[15:25] <jcoxon> oh well
[15:25] <jcoxon> better safe then sorry
[15:25] <edmoore> indeed
[15:26] <edmoore> need it for the teddynauts
[15:26] <jcoxon> :-)
[15:26] <jcoxon> that'll be very cool
[15:28] <jcoxon> ouch the weather is terrible
[15:29] <edmoore> yep
[15:40] <Laurenceb> edmoore: seen this? http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8889
[15:41] <edmoore> yep
[15:41] <edmoore> quite pricey but lea-5h so all gravy
[15:41] <Laurenceb> I'm trying to work out how to connect to it
[15:42] <Laurenceb> maybe it would be easiest to just hack some wires on
[15:45] <Laurenceb> or desolder the connector and replace with your own
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[17:03] <rjharrison> IS UKHAS opposing T5 with the view that it may increase the need for restricted airspace or are we ambivolent? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7715274.stm
[17:04] <rjharrison> ambivalent* :)
[17:05] <rjharrison> Right home time bbl
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[20:35] <natrium42> there he is, quiet now
[20:35] <fuzzylugnuts> its ok, I'll still pretend to be surprised
[20:36] <natrium42> :D
[20:36] <fuzzylugnuts> whats up?
[20:41] <natrium42> not much, you?
[20:41] <fuzzylugnuts> just got back from work. playing castlevania on the ds.
[20:41] <fuzzylugnuts> its all rainy and cold here today
[20:44] <fuzzylugnuts> the group in idaho canceled their launch for this weekend
[20:46] <natrium42> aah, ok :(
[20:47] Action: Laurenceb just went to a fireworks party
[20:47] <fuzzylugnuts> yay!
[20:48] <Laurenceb> glad to see the university spent a lot on releasing heavy metals into the atmosphere
[20:48] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: yeah I know : ( the main guys are firefighters so they have reallly goofy work hours
[20:48] <fuzzylugnuts> Laurenceb: worth it
[21:02] <fuzzylugnuts> its like... if one of the nodes was going to fail, I want it to explode out of the rack and fly flaming through the air, just so there would be some entertainment value to its demise
[21:04] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: the weatherboard on sparkfun is really cool.
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[21:12] <fuzzylugnuts> styve
[21:16] <Laurenceb> I dont believe it
[21:16] <Laurenceb> only started raining :(
[21:16] <Laurenceb> just as I was about to do go outside and do some testing
[21:16] <fuzzylugnuts> ah lame
[21:21] <Laurenceb> hopefully the ripstop will arrive tomorrow
[21:22] <fuzzylugnuts> delivery on a saturday?
[21:22] <Laurenceb> yeah, we have decent services in the UK :P
[21:22] <fuzzylugnuts> *whine*
[21:22] <fuzzylugnuts> howsabout sunday?
[21:23] <Laurenceb> royal mail delivers every day apart from sunday
[21:23] <fuzzylugnuts> ah ok
[21:23] <Laurenceb> I'm going to try and get an RC system as well
[21:24] <fuzzylugnuts> how many channels?
[21:24] <Laurenceb> dunno
[21:24] <Laurenceb> as few as possible, the mini rogallo only needs one
[21:24] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah
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[21:25] <Laurenceb> but I want something fairly good, and the reciever needs to be very small
[21:25] <Laurenceb> theres only a space 12x30x18 mm for it
[21:25] <fuzzylugnuts> haha
[21:26] <fuzzylugnuts> ÿÿI want to send up 20ml of gin to be chilled by the atmosphere
[21:27] <Laurenceb> ROGGL<,0.894383,N,-0.010311,W,96.2,M,0,0.0,-0.32,-0.2,1.6,7.5,00,20.5,3A
[21:28] <fuzzylugnuts> haha
[21:28] <Laurenceb> thats the data format, latitude, logitude, altitude, number of sats, heading, target, filtered heading, turn rate, battery voltage, reciever RX pwm pulses, internal temperature and checksum
[21:28] <fuzzylugnuts> cool
[21:29] <Laurenceb> I've got 4 bytes of flash free on the uC
[21:29] <fuzzylugnuts> you are so close to 0 N and W
[21:29] <Laurenceb> its radians
[21:29] <fuzzylugnuts> oh
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[21:29] <fuzzylugnuts> like on the plot you showed me the other day
[21:29] <Laurenceb> now you can hunt me down on google earth :P
[21:30] <fuzzylugnuts> hot.
[21:30] <fuzzylugnuts> how much does your rig weigh?
[21:30] <Laurenceb> not sure yet
[21:30] <Laurenceb> need to see with the wings on
[21:31] <fuzzylugnuts> ok
[21:31] <Laurenceb> about 400 grams
[21:31] <fuzzylugnuts> not bad
[21:31] <Laurenceb> at the moment its about 200
[21:31] <Laurenceb> for the tronics and foam enclosure
[21:31] <fuzzylugnuts> oh, there is an eximer laser at the lab auction, btw.
[21:32] <Laurenceb> omg
[21:32] <fuzzylugnuts> Laurenceb: it will be interesing to see
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[21:36] <Laurenceb> http://dubqnp.dk/images/mccain-video_dead.gif
[21:36] <fuzzylugnuts> AHAHA
[21:37] <Laurenceb> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/37839/1225327022/mcain.jpg <-- funnier
[21:46] <fuzzylugnuts> mmm, I can smell the alcohol by exhaling through my nose.
[21:52] <fuzzylugnuts> ÿok, I'm going to lay on the couch, drink some gin, and eat some chocolate
[21:52] <fuzzylugnuts> laters
[21:53] Nick change: fuzzylugnuts -> fuzzy_wasted
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[22:13] <Laurenceb> hi edmoore
[22:13] <edmoore> hi
[22:20] <edmoore> RocketBoy, rjharrison : I'm now an intermediate licensee
[22:42] <RocketBoy> woo0 - call?
[22:42] <edmoore> not just yet annoyingly - have to wait a copupla days
[22:43] <RocketBoy> :-(
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[22:58] <rjharrison> edmoore: Nice one sir
[22:58] <rjharrison> I'm not allowed to do my exam straight away they think it's too much
[22:59] <rjharrison> Have to wait 4 weeks before they will send off for the exam
[23:00] <rjharrison> What did you get on the intermediate. Assuming 100% for the foundation unless there was some silly question in there
[23:01] Nick change: fuzzy_wasted -> fuzzylugnuts
[23:01] <rjharrison> fuzzylugnuts you been on the dope again or is it the gin :)
[23:01] <fuzzylugnuts> gin ; )
[23:02] <fuzzylugnuts> my liver is a trooper.
[23:02] <fuzzylugnuts> edmoore: kudos for awesome examness
[23:06] <fuzzylugnuts> :O
[23:06] <rjharrison> Haha I didn't know that did anything
[23:06] <fuzzylugnuts> damnit
[23:06] <rjharrison> Well there you go you learn something new every day
[23:07] <fuzzylugnuts> knew it was too good to be true
[23:08] <rjharrison> !sommon The Devil
[23:08] <rjharrison> oops
[23:09] <fuzzylugnuts> biggy smalls
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[23:09] <fuzzylugnuts> <.< >.>
[23:09] <fuzzylugnuts> biggy smalls!
[23:09] <fuzzylugnuts> haha!
[23:10] <fuzzylugnuts> rjharrison: I forget, can you transmit yet?
[23:10] <rjharrison> Yep
[23:10] <rjharrison> M6RJ
[23:10] <fuzzylugnuts> oh cool.
[23:10] <rjharrison> m6RJ
[23:10] <rjharrison> m6RJH
[23:10] <fuzzylugnuts> haha
[23:10] <fuzzylugnuts> vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanity
[23:10] <rjharrison> Humm there is a bug on my keyboard IF I type RJH quickly onlt rj comes out
[23:11] <rjharrison> I wanted M6ROB
[23:11] <fuzzylugnuts> bandit
[23:11] <rjharrison> But it was taken and the second person I spoke to on the radio was M6ROB
[23:11] <rjharrison> Typical
[23:11] <fuzzylugnuts> hah!
[23:11] <fuzzylugnuts> nice.
[23:12] <rjharrison> Will have to have a stab at doing one of those internet link ups one day
[23:12] <fuzzylugnuts> I got my grandpa's call
[23:12] <fuzzylugnuts> IRLP?
[23:13] <rjharrison> Either that or wait for some whicked bouncing
[23:13] <fuzzylugnuts> hah
[23:13] <rjharrison> IRLP
[23:13] <rjharrison> that sounds a better option do you have a node near you?
[23:13] <fuzzylugnuts> I don't know
[23:13] <fuzzylugnuts> let me check
[23:15] <fuzzylugnuts> 50 miles away
[23:15] <rjharrison> Is that doable
[23:15] <fuzzylugnuts> could probably hit it with my mobile
[23:15] <fuzzylugnuts> which is out of commishion
[23:16] <rjharrison> I have one locally about 1.5km away
[23:16] <fuzzylugnuts> nice!
[23:16] <rjharrison> < 1 mile
[23:16] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah yeah ; P
[23:16] <rjharrison> I dont have a dtmf on my mike though so I'm not sure how to activate it
[23:17] <fuzzylugnuts> use your cell phone on speaker phone
[23:17] <rjharrison> Cool
[23:17] <rjharrison> That should work
[23:18] <rjharrison> I'm going to the radio course tomorrow I'll get someone to show me how to do it and then we'll give it a run through one night when you're on the gin :)
[23:19] <fuzzylugnuts> sounds like a plan
[23:19] <rjharrison> Whats your callsign fuzzylugnuts
[23:19] <fuzzylugnuts> kilo three zulu gulf oscar
[23:21] <rjharrison> K3ZGO is that in zone 4
[23:21] <fuzzylugnuts> 3
[23:21] <rjharrison> I have a big red four on my map
[23:21] <fuzzylugnuts> could be then
[23:22] <rjharrison> No idea what the red four means there seems to be 1-40 on the mao
[23:22] <rjharrison> map
[23:22] <fuzzylugnuts> oooh
[23:22] <fuzzylugnuts> internationally
[23:22] <rjharrison> Yep
[23:22] <rjharrison> 18 For Russia
[23:24] <fuzzylugnuts> http://www.arrl.org/awards/was/map.gif
[23:24] <fuzzylugnuts> it origionated from 3 on that map, but I live in 4 land now
[23:25] <fuzzylugnuts> what is echolink?
[23:26] <fuzzylugnuts> oh, nevermind
[23:32] <fuzzylugnuts> rjharrison: is the irlp node by you 70cm too?
[23:35] <Laurenceb> are you just old enough to drink or something?
[23:35] <rjharrison> Sorry
[23:35] <rjharrison> fuzzylugnuts no it's on 2m
[23:36] <rjharrison> Does that matter
[23:36] <fuzzylugnuts> I think the node by me is only 70cm
[23:36] <fuzzylugnuts> Laurenceb: no.
[23:37] <rjharrison> Right time for me to go night night
[23:38] <rjharrison> Laters all
[23:38] <fuzzylugnuts> ok
[23:38] <fuzzylugnuts> later
[23:38] <rjharrison> fuzzylugnuts have a good one hope the hangover isn't too bad
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[23:38] <fuzzylugnuts> I'm not drunk allllll the time..... honest!
[23:46] <Laurenceb> edmoore: have you looked at the logomatic code from sparkfun
[23:46] <Laurenceb> for guidance on your SD card issues?
[23:47] <RocketBoy> night
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