highaltitude.log.20081020

[00:01] <Laurenceb> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/50142.pdf
[00:02] <Laurenceb> ^ yem
[00:02] <Laurenceb> *yum
[00:17] <Laurenceb> cya all
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[07:58] <Laurenceb> hi edmoore
[07:59] <edmoore> good morning!
[08:00] <Laurenceb> I just did a test :P
[08:01] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:parafoil_testshttp://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:parafoil_tests
[08:01] <Laurenceb> oops
[08:01] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:parafoil_tests
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[10:15] <rjharrison> morning all
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[10:37] <gordonjcp> hohum
[10:38] <gordonjcp> slooow transferring files from home
[10:39] <gordonjcp> Dear C, my wonderful fiancee who I love very much, please stop hooning the bandwidth at home, love G
[11:06] <rjharrison> :)
[11:06] <rjharrison> gordonjcp I was having bw issuse this w/e sending all the video and pics up from the launch
[11:07] <rjharrison> *issues
[11:12] <gordonjcp> heh
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[11:12] <gordonjcp> yeah it makes sense to throttle uploads a wee bit so that you can still get response packets back for incoming traffic
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[12:36] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/na1ss-2010080920.jpg
[12:36] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/na1ss-2010081154.jpg
[13:10] <Laurenceb> ah I was reading about that
[13:10] <Laurenceb> your pictures?
[13:16] <gordonjcp> yup
[13:16] <Laurenceb> cool nice work
[13:19] <gordonjcp> not bad I thought
[13:20] <gordonjcp> the noise bands on the first were from a tall building and a tall tree
[13:20] <Laurenceb> what frequency?
[13:22] <gordonjcp> 145.8
[13:22] <Laurenceb> interesting
[13:22] <Laurenceb> you used ssb to pick it up?
[13:22] <gordonjcp> nope, fm
[13:23] <Laurenceb> wow
[13:23] <Laurenceb> thats doubly impressive
[13:23] <gordonjcp> you need a semi-decent antenna, although I just used a homebrew j-pole
[13:23] <gordonjcp> SSB is a bit shit for that kind of thing
[13:23] <gordonjcp> you'd be chasing it down the band due to doppler
[13:23] <Laurenceb> yeah
[13:24] <Laurenceb> you could use an icom and work out the doppler beforehand
[13:24] <gordonjcp> ok on FM you've got a bit of doppler but at the height and speed the worst that's going to happen is doppler will be about 2-3kHz
[13:24] <Laurenceb> then write a script to do it
[13:24] <gordonjcp> and if your RX has AFC to an extent and 25kHz channels then you may as well not bother
[13:24] <Laurenceb> yeah
[13:25] <Laurenceb> your doppler would really just screw up the image
[13:25] <gordonjcp> doppler is important on 70cm for cubesats and amsat stuff
[13:25] <gordonjcp> but it's easier to chase the downlink
[13:25] <gordonjcp> another pass just started ;-)
[13:25] <Laurenceb> you could grab all the raw data in octave and take the doppler off numerically
[13:25] <gordonjcp> yeah
[13:25] <Laurenceb> if it will fit in the ssb bandwidth of your rx
[13:25] <gordonjcp> or use an SDR
[13:26] <gordonjcp> quite fancy using one of these Pye F496 boards as a frontend
[13:26] <Laurenceb> we're using some maxim doards here
[13:26] <Laurenceb> *boards
[13:27] <Laurenceb> whats the PYe thingy?
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[13:32] <gordonjcp> it's a repeater
[13:33] <Laurenceb> ah
[13:33] <gordonjcp> it basically consists of two Pye P296 transceiver boards but one is built as TX only and one is built as RX only
[13:45] <Laurenceb> interesting
[13:45] <Laurenceb> theres a guy here whos made a gps reciever entirely with maxim eval board
[13:45] <Laurenceb> *boards
[13:45] <Laurenceb> and an fpga
[13:46] <Laurenceb> basically ant ---lna ---- I and Q mixers with internal NCO sources --- ADC on FPGA
[13:48] <Laurenceb> I've forgotten the IC - its a mixer and NCO from maxim, you can get samples on an eval board with sma connectors
[13:49] <Laurenceb> woops theres a bug in my kalman filter
[13:49] <Laurenceb> kind of annoying
[13:49] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:parafoil_tests <-- I did some tests this morning
[13:50] <Laurenceb> it cant handle a 2PI rotation correctly
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> Oh noes!
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> :/
[13:52] <Laurenceb> its a fairly simple fix I think
[13:53] <Laurenceb> unfortunately I need to mod the kalman.c code
[13:53] <Laurenceb> so the top of the residual vector is in the +-PI range
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> mod?
[13:54] <SpeedEvil> I mean - a simple modulus everywhere/.
[13:54] <Laurenceb> well its designed to be portable
[13:54] <Laurenceb> modify :P
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[14:05] <Laurenceb> http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/3451
[14:06] <Laurenceb> you could something like that with a vco
[14:06] <SpeedEvil> th43re is a teeny chip desgined for GPS that way
[14:06] <Laurenceb> theres several
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[14:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.maxim-ic.com/products/wireless/gps/max2741.cfm
[14:14] <Laurenceb> yeah
[14:14] <Laurenceb> I cant find the one I was looking for grrr
[14:15] <Laurenceb> its like that but with seperate IO and Q
[14:15] <Laurenceb> i.e. direct downconversion
[14:16] <SpeedEvil> that one has seperate I and Q
[14:16] <Laurenceb> yeah but not outputsd
[14:16] <SpeedEvil> It does, I though.
[14:17] <SpeedEvil> oh - my mistake
[14:17] <Laurenceb> page 11
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> Doesn't matter - in the way it's designed to be used.
[14:18] <SpeedEvil> grab the whole band, and then convert.
[14:19] <Laurenceb> yeah
[14:33] <Laurenceb> hmf I'm confused by kalman filters
[14:33] <Laurenceb> dont know wether to do this fix in visible or hidden space
[14:34] <Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalman_filter#Update
[14:35] <Laurenceb> I think I need to add a check to keep y in the +-PI range
[14:40] <SpeedEvil> what about x?
[14:40] <Laurenceb> y in the equation
[14:40] <Laurenceb> read the link
[14:41] <Laurenceb> its basically a vector for how our measured state vector differs from the predicted
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> ah
[14:41] <SpeedEvil> sorry - trying to do other stuff while typing
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[15:17] <Laurenceb> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/code:kalman_filter?do=diff
[15:17] <Laurenceb> ^ that should fix it
[15:22] <Laurenceb> I was thinking about sstv, you could make an entire reciever in octave quite easily, and add jpeg capture ect
[15:22] <Laurenceb> not very efficient, but it shouldnt matter
[15:25] <Laurenceb> a bit of fft and some http://octave.sourceforge.net/doc/f/jpgwrite.html
[15:27] Action: SpeedEvil ponders.
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> SD cards are cheap.
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> 2.50/2gig from screwfix forex.
[15:28] <gordonjcp> o_O
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> err
[15:28] <SpeedEvil> ebuyer
[15:28] <Laurenceb> screwfix ftw
[15:28] Action: SpeedEvil wonders about drop-SDs - with url tags on.
[15:29] <SpeedEvil> 'upload to this address, for a 5 quid credit'
[15:29] <Laurenceb> haha
[15:29] <Laurenceb> like the russian spy cam system
[15:30] <Laurenceb> I remember one of those musical christmas cards somehow turned up in my garden
[15:31] Action: SpeedEvil wonders how cheap you could make a drop-glider - remote automatically controlled by balloon.
[15:31] <Laurenceb> it was going for days and I couldnt work out ehst the noise was
[15:31] <SpeedEvil> I got some e-ink panels to play with.
[15:31] <Laurenceb> you could put them on the cards
[15:31] <SpeedEvil> Fun.
[15:31] <Laurenceb> nice
[15:31] <Laurenceb> drop rogallo surely
[15:31] <SpeedEvil> of some sort
[15:32] <Laurenceb> how do you interface?
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESQUIRE-MAGAZINE-75th-ANNIVERSARY-E-INK-COVER-OCTOBER_W0QQitemZ180292602231QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180292602231&_trkparms=72%3A1298%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> They are fixed segment panels.
[15:32] <SpeedEvil> I'm peeling off the backing and just using the bare imaging film.
[15:33] <Laurenceb> wow
[15:33] <Laurenceb> thats impressive
[15:33] <Laurenceb> must have cost them a bit
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> Well...
[15:33] <gordonjcp> anyone know of a command-line SSTV decoder for Linux?
[15:33] <SpeedEvil> The PCB costs perhaps $2 in bulk. I'd expect well under $6 for the lot.
[15:33] <Laurenceb> octave :P
[15:34] <Laurenceb> theres some sort of epoxied driver/mem ic ?
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: no
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: all relatively large pitch SMD
[15:34] <Laurenceb> ah
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> On a conventional PCB
[15:34] <Laurenceb> guess its low volume
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> 100k
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> with 7 cr2032 batteries.
[15:34] <SpeedEvil> 2016
[15:35] <Laurenceb> 7 ?!
[15:35] <Laurenceb> so... can you hack the panels?
[15:36] <Laurenceb> do they have inbuilt driver transistors?
[15:36] <Laurenceb> or is it rows and columns
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> No, it's 12 or 3 'blobs'
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> segments
[15:37] <Laurenceb> ah
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> made from transparent plastic overlays
[15:37] <Laurenceb> alphanumeric?
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> no
[15:37] <Laurenceb> gay
[15:37] <SpeedEvil> 12 total square and wiggly segments
[15:38] <SpeedEvil> I'm pulling out the imaging film, placing on a PCB patterned into segments, and then covering with a transparent conductive film.
[15:39] <Laurenceb> so the imiging film just needs an E field?
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> yes
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> + on top, black, - on top white
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> no field - static
[15:39] <Laurenceb> ah so you could design your own stuff
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> hmm.
[15:39] <Laurenceb> if you could get film with conductive lines
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> 2*4094 as drivers I think
[15:40] <Laurenceb> you could make a display
[15:40] <Laurenceb> where did you get conductive film from?
[15:40] <SpeedEvil> ebay
[15:40] <Laurenceb> cool
[15:41] <Laurenceb> can you laminate it?
[15:41] <Laurenceb> whats the base polymer?
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> mylar I think.
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> ITO coated.
[15:41] <Laurenceb> ah
[15:41] <Laurenceb> hmm
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> it was a touchscreen
[15:42] <Laurenceb> maybe you could score it
[15:42] <Laurenceb> to get the lines
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> No need.
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> top is all at '0'V
[15:42] <Laurenceb> better iea
[15:42] <Laurenceb> etch it
[15:42] <Laurenceb> yeah but you need it x,y addressable
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> apply +-15V or whatever on the PCB that the film is glued to
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> segment display only.
[15:43] <Laurenceb> nah
[15:43] <Laurenceb> heres my plan
[15:43] <Laurenceb> put the film through a laser printer
[15:43] <Laurenceb> to print lines on iit
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> Sure.
[15:43] <SpeedEvil> It'd be nice to be able to do that.,
[15:43] <Laurenceb> etch, then dissolve the toner
[15:43] <Laurenceb> do it :P
[15:44] <Laurenceb> not sure how to connect to it, maybe conductive epoxy?
[15:46] <gordonjcp> heated rear window paint
[15:46] <Laurenceb> yeah
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> That gets horribly complex.
[15:46] <Laurenceb> its not too bad
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> segmented display is damn easy.
[15:46] <Laurenceb> few days work
[15:47] <SpeedEvil> If it works first time, which it won't.
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[15:49] <SpeedEvil> PCB also has some microchip part presumably a pic that I can't read the number of, and a few dozen passives
[15:50] <SpeedEvil> Anyway - segment will be fine.
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> I've also got a photomylar/aluminium thing.
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> It's a mylar film with an aluminium coating.
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> and a polythene film with a photoreactive glue.
[15:52] <SpeedEvil> expose it, and then remove the polythene film, and it rips off the coating in places.
[15:53] <SpeedEvil> dunno if it can actually be connected with though
[15:53] <Laurenceb> whats it for?
[15:54] <SpeedEvil> making better photoresists from prints.
[15:54] <SpeedEvil> you start out with a 90% opaque print, and end up with a 100% opaque one
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[16:11] <jcoxon> afternoon al
[16:11] <jcoxon> l
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[17:28] <jcoxon> woohoo, finally made a hotwire cutter
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[17:56] <natrium42> jcoxon, cool
[17:56] <natrium42> i mean, hot
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[18:00] <Laurenceb> hi edmoore
[18:01] <Laurenceb> any good with control theory?
[18:04] <edmoore> try me
[18:04] <edmoore> but probably not
[18:04] <edmoore> but try me
[18:04] <Laurenceb> if I have some plant with transfer function P, and controller C and I call CP=T then I have a feedback loop with a PID controlleris the overall transfer function T/(1+[a+bz+c/z]T) ? where a,b,c are my PID coefficients?
[18:05] <Laurenceb> a=P, b=d,c=I
[18:14] <edmoore> I don't thin k it is actually
[18:14] <edmoore> just trying to write a pid on the z domain
[18:15] <Laurenceb> I'm also stuck at how to Z transform me heavyside step function response to get the T function
[18:17] <Laurenceb> I get the maths but how to actually do it in code....
[18:18] <Laurenceb> I asked on #electronics, reply was "whats an FFT?"
[18:23] <edmoore> :)
[18:24] <edmoore> sorry was on the phone
[18:24] <edmoore> so hang on, are you trying to calculate the transfer function of the plant in real time?
[18:25] <Laurenceb> no
[18:25] <Laurenceb> just trying to understand control theory
[18:25] <Laurenceb> I just found http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/mdft/Bluestein_s_FFT_Algorithm.html
[18:25] <Laurenceb> I almost understand
[18:26] <edmoore> well, in code you would just apply some step function (as close as you can get)
[18:26] <edmoore> say, slam the servo to some angle
[18:26] <edmoore> then measure and log the response
[18:26] <edmoore> and with some curve fitting analysis you can work out the system transfer function
[18:26] <Laurenceb> sure
[18:26] <Laurenceb> its the analysis I'm trying to understand
[18:27] <Laurenceb> you need to Z transform?
[18:27] <edmoore> ok
[18:27] <edmoore> no not really
[18:27] <Laurenceb> thats what that link is about
[18:27] <edmoore> you can just extract Ki, Kp, Kd from the curve
[18:27] <Laurenceb> eh
[18:27] <edmoore> I will see if I can find my notes from last year - we did a lab on exactly this
[18:28] <Laurenceb> cool
[18:28] <Laurenceb> was this fudged at all?
[18:28] <Laurenceb> or was it mathematically rigourous?
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[18:29] <Laurenceb> * rigorous
[18:29] <edmoore> rigorous, in as far as it can be when you're measuring stuff of curves
[18:29] <edmoore> you need a LUT though probably
[18:30] <Laurenceb> LUT?
[18:30] <edmoore> look up table
[18:30] <Laurenceb> ah
[18:30] <Laurenceb> was this with inverted pendula?
[18:30] <edmoore> or you could calculate analytically some plane of phase/magnitude responses
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[18:30] <edmoore> yep
[18:30] <Laurenceb> hehe
[18:30] <Laurenceb> I was that at the CUED open day
[18:30] <edmoore> ha
[18:30] <Laurenceb> *saw
[18:31] <Laurenceb> had a go tuning the op amps
[18:31] <Laurenceb> it was pretty impressive when tuned correctly
[18:31] <edmoore> yeah, very stiff
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[18:33] <edmoore> hi rjharrison
[18:33] <rjharrison> Evening all
[18:33] <Laurenceb> hello
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[18:36] <rjharrison> decided to pull pics of flicker
[18:37] <rjharrison> Bit too public for my liking and I'll make a nice index on my websitew
[18:42] <Laurenceb> oh god this really is bad
[18:42] <edmoore> ?
[18:42] <Laurenceb> the collective voice of #electronics has accused me of being female
[18:42] <rjharrison> lol
[18:42] <rjharrison> lol lol
[18:42] <Laurenceb> this really is a new low
[18:43] <SpeedEvil> http://home.hio.no/~laurence/
[18:43] <SpeedEvil> Oh
[18:43] <SpeedEvil> I guess it is in some parts of the world.
[18:43] <SpeedEvil> (a female name)
[18:44] <Laurenceb> do not want
[18:45] <Laurenceb> :P
[18:45] <SpeedEvil> http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_03/LaurenceEV2411_468x699.jpg&imgrefurl=http://lijaf.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/&h=699&w=468&sz=47&hl=en&start=20&sig2=yJ4e4XvEGyNLqfkq06NGPw&um=1&usg=__BnMaWGyRReX8UIIiw3rhgk3PX6Y=&tbnid=tYyygGGI7siJTM:&tbnh=139&tbnw=93&ei=JsP8SL-OGY22QfyKiPoI&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlaurence%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
[18:46] <Hiena> Laurenceb, wait until some guy would want to marry with you. ;)
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> It could be worse Laurenceb. They could have thought you were the other Laurenceb.
[18:48] <jnd> Hiena sounds a bit female for me :p
[18:48] Action: SpeedEvil tries to remember the source.
[18:48] <SpeedEvil> Norse goddess?
[18:50] <Laurenceb> oh well time to go home...
[18:50] <Laurenceb> dont want to stay here all night
[18:50] <SpeedEvil> Eww.
[18:50] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyena_butter
[18:51] <Hiena> Only if you thinks the 6 day old stubble feminine. Also change the i to y in my nick, and think again. ;)
[18:51] <Laurenceb> byee
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[18:51] <SpeedEvil> I'm sure I've seen hiena as an actual female name.
[18:52] <jnd> Hiena: the change doesn't help
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[18:53] <Hiena> Ehem.. That case try not to think about too much.
[18:53] <jnd> k then :)
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[19:02] <natrium42> hi
[19:03] <jnd> hy
[19:04] <Hiena> Anybody has a schematic for using balanced mixer as AM modulator?
[19:05] <natrium42> rjharrison: any luck with the full panorama?
[19:06] <jnd> anyone listens to drum & bass?
[19:14] <gordonjcp> Hiena: What exactly are you trying to do?
[19:14] <Hiena> Small AM transmitter from a balanced mixer.
[19:15] <gordonjcp> eh?
[19:15] <Hiena> It has everything what i need. Built in oscillator and mixer designed fot 50 Ohm loads. And if i remmebers correctly, it could be done.
[19:16] <gordonjcp> it *could*
[19:16] <gordonjcp> whether or not it's a good idea is open to interpretation
[19:17] <Hiena> At least once i done in the past, but the fumes from the solders erdes my memories well.
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[19:18] <Hiena> Ah, found a similar schematic. Now have to modify to my mixer. http://rbsfm.ej.am/Schematics/images/MC1496_AM_Modulator_Circuit.png
[19:27] <RocketBoy> for BPSK31?
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[19:32] <Hiena> Nope. I think, i'll use SA612.
[19:32] <Hiena> Cheap, dip8 mixer.
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[19:38] <SpeedEvil> bee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT61ug6kxOk&feature=user
[19:40] <SpeedEvil> I love the internal reflections going on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XngQJzAmVm8&feature=related
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[20:06] <Laurenceb> hello
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[20:50] <rjharrison> Do we have any idea how high a balloon could go?
[20:50] <rjharrison> Thinking open envelope here
[20:51] <rjharrison> Surely there must be a limit!
[20:54] <Laurenceb> ~40km for latex
[20:54] <Laurenceb> ~55 or 60 for polythene
[20:55] <rjharrison> Oohhh Is that open envelope with polythene or are we talking sealed balloon?
[20:57] <Laurenceb> open
[20:57] Action: jnd is waiting for the 40km record
[21:03] <Laurenceb> hmm this is interesting
[21:03] <Laurenceb> I think i worked out that control theory problem I had earlier
[21:06] <Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-transform
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[21:06] <Laurenceb> I believe if all the roots and poles lie inside the unit circle it can be done with fourier transforms
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[21:12] <fnoble> hello
[21:12] <fnoble> busy today
[21:14] <Laurenceb> hi there
[21:14] <rjharrison> hi fnoble
[21:14] Action: Laurenceb is trying to understand control theory
[21:15] <Laurenceb> any good with it?
[21:15] <fnoble> nope
[21:15] <fnoble> ask ed, he knows about control theory
[21:16] <Laurenceb> yeah, pity hes not here
[21:16] <Laurenceb> oh well I think I got it how
[21:18] <fnoble> anyone seen fuzzylugnuts recently?
[21:18] <Laurenceb> unfortunately if you give a parafoil a heavyside step function input, the pole zero plot seems to show its not stable
[21:18] <Laurenceb> no
[21:18] <Laurenceb> which makes sense as it will spiral
[21:18] <Laurenceb> so I guess you have to put in a simple trial control loop to make it work
[21:19] <fnoble> luckily the step function isnt encountered in reality then :)
[21:19] <Laurenceb> :P
[21:19] <Laurenceb> then you can remove the maths I presume to get the actual system
[21:19] <Laurenceb> *the loop in the maths
[21:19] <rjharrison> !me
[21:20] <fnoble> dunno if zeusbot can do that kind of thing
[21:20] <Laurenceb> I've never seen that described but thats the only way I can see things like this working
[21:20] <fnoble> hehe
[21:20] <Laurenceb> rofl
[21:20] <rjharrison> I think it can now
[21:20] <rjharrison> JC was playing at the w.e
[21:21] <fnoble> meh
[21:21] <rjharrison> :)
[21:21] <fnoble> cool
[21:21] <rjharrison> seen fnoble
[21:21] <rjharrison> opps
[21:21] <rjharrison> It's sarky too
[21:21] <fnoble> hehe thats quite good
[21:22] <rjharrison> haha
[21:22] <rjharrison> lol
[21:22] <fnoble> it doesnt know its master then
[21:23] <rjharrison> Humm I wonder why fuzzylugnuts dosn
[21:23] <rjharrison> dosn't work
[21:24] <rjharrison> Seem to do nothing
[21:24] <rjharrison> Just scilence
[21:24] <rjharrison> scilence
[21:24] <rjharrison> silence :)
[21:24] <fnoble> hehe
[21:25] <rjharrison> come on zeusbot
[21:26] <fnoble> name length limit?
[21:26] <rjharrison> haha
[21:26] <Simon-MPFH> Hello!
[21:26] <Simon-MPFH> Some after me?
[21:26] <Simon-MPFH> one
[21:27] <fnoble> hi, sorry, i was testing zeusbot with a long name
[21:27] <rjharrison> fnoble playing with zeusbot
[21:27] <Simon-MPFH> Ah, no probs
[21:27] <fnoble> sorry
[21:27] <Simon-MPFH> For the hard of IRC - what does a bot do?
[21:27] <rjharrison> nice try
[21:27] <natrium42> :P
[21:28] <natrium42> bah
[21:28] <rjharrison> looks like it's protected
[21:28] <rjharrison> jcoxon must be busy
[21:29] <rjharrison> I'm surprised he hasn't lept to the defence of zeusbot :)
[21:30] <natrium42> damn limit
[21:30] <jnd> thats not dos :p
[21:30] <natrium42> hehe
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[21:30] <natrium42> ?
[21:30] <rjharrison> ooh
[21:31] <jnd> now this is interesting
[21:31] <rjharrison> Poor you
[21:31] <natrium42> aww, jcoxon has locked you up
[21:31] <rjharrison> haha
[21:32] <rjharrison> apparently not
[21:33] <natrium42> !kick fnoble
[21:33] <fnoble> oi
[21:33] <natrium42> that one is not implemented, i see
[21:34] <jnd> no calculator :(
[21:34] <fnoble> !learn add zeusbot I am silly
[21:34] <fnoble> damn
[21:35] <natrium42> !learn add fnoble verb, to abuse a bot
[21:35] <natrium42> hmm
[21:35] <natrium42> :P
[21:35] <fnoble> hehe
[21:36] <fnoble> ok, i will stop this now
[21:58] <natrium42> huhu
[22:10] <Laurenceb> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/blobcat/renoir.jpg?t=1224375719
[22:36] <jcoxon> Oi!
[22:36] <jcoxon> stop abusing zeusbot
[22:36] <natrium42> sowwy
[22:36] <fnoble> sorry
[22:36] <jcoxon> calling the powers of IRC...
[22:36] <natrium42> :D
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[22:36] <natrium42> /kick natrium42, fnoble
[22:36] Action: jcoxon is all powerful now
[22:36] <natrium42> /cs op #highaltitude natrium42
[22:36] <natrium42> oops
[22:37] <jcoxon> hehe
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[22:38] <fnoble> hi edmoore
[22:38] <natrium42> hi edmoore
[22:38] <edmoore> hi
[22:38] <edmoore> am about to have an early night so apologies in advance. Burned out in the library
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[22:39] <jcoxon> wow everyone is around ths evening
[22:39] Action: jcoxon gets back to cutting polystyrene
[22:40] <natrium42> putting together your payload? :)
[22:42] <natrium42> jcoxon, i got the coax cable for my HF antenna
[22:42] <natrium42> going to set it up today
[22:43] <edmoore> jcoxon: what news from the south?
[22:46] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[22:46] <jcoxon> natrium42, yeah
[22:46] <jcoxon> cutting away
[22:46] <jcoxon> i haven't stripped down the camera - might just take the weight and not risk breaking it
[23:01] <Laurenceb> whats the plan?
[23:01] <Laurenceb> with your launch
[23:05] <jcoxon> i'll launch when its nice weather :-)
[23:08] <jcoxon> its complicated enough having 2 formats etc to also have to worry about the sea etc
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[23:35] <Laurenceb> cool bll
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