highaltitude.log.20081014

[00:13] <Laurenceb> I've just been testing the radio, looks like it'll use 27ma peak
[00:13] <SpeedEvil> @3.3?
[00:13] <Laurenceb> yep
[00:14] <Laurenceb> 6ma when its "idling"
[00:14] <Laurenceb> I could slow the uC clock down but its not really worth the bother
[00:14] <SpeedEvil> what baud rate were you thinking of?
[00:14] <Laurenceb> 300
[00:15] <SpeedEvil> On all the time, or a position every 5s?
[00:15] <Laurenceb> well theres a DTR line back to the flight computer
[00:16] <Laurenceb> the flight computer checks this at 1hz and sends a packet into the radio if its set
[00:16] <Laurenceb> the radio only buffers one packet to avoid lag
[00:16] <Laurenceb> you can read the source now :D
[00:17] <SpeedEvil> Naah.
[00:17] Action: SpeedEvil tries to avoid reading source of stuff he doesn't need to.
[00:17] <SpeedEvil> Too much stuff on the stack already
[00:18] <Laurenceb> bbl, cooking
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[00:20] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey
[00:22] <natrium42> hi
[00:22] <fuzzylugnuts> I've been messing with the tinytack-4+display tonight
[00:23] <fuzzylugnuts> its design is intensely erotic.
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[02:16] <Laurenceb> muhahahaha
[02:16] <Laurenceb> I've installed the radio inside the mini rogallo encloure
[02:17] <Laurenceb> appears to be working, unfortunatley its 7 seconds between packets... I might trim down the tune up pulses
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[09:08] <edmoore> mornin all
[09:08] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:09] <edmoore> all well in scotlandland?
[09:09] <gordonjcp> yeah, not bad
[09:09] <gordonjcp> I need to get some sort of voice recorder
[09:09] <edmoore> for why?
[09:10] <gordonjcp> I worked a contact on AO-51 earlier this morning, and all I could catch of his callsign was EA3<something>
[09:10] <edmoore> CW!
[09:10] <gordonjcp> no, voice
[09:11] <edmoore> when I was talking to the CU wireless soc earlier in the week, they said you could pick your last three letters after M0
[09:11] <edmoore> so I suggested M0ORE for me
[09:11] <edmoore> and they said, straight away within a split second - 'nah, too many dashes and ends on a dot'
[09:11] <gordonjcp> haha
[09:12] <gordonjcp> I should email the RSGB
[09:12] <gordonjcp> I was trying to set up my callsign, but I had no idea what the "format" was supposed to be
[09:12] <gordonjcp> in the end I just picked "random"
[09:12] <gordonjcp> I'm not sure if it objected to my choices, or if it objected to "MM" rather than "M"
[09:12] <edmoore> what is it?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> MM3YEQ
[09:19] <edmoore> they (CUWS) were coming up with a battle plan to get an NOV for decent radios for balloons
[09:20] <gordonjcp> good idea
[09:21] <gordonjcp> hah, could you fit a wind generator to the balloon payload? ;-)
[09:21] <edmoore> rocketboy couldn't get one with RSGB support though
[09:21] <edmoore> so a battle plan will be needed
[09:22] <edmoore> they were going to go down the line that former members of CUWS have got nobel prizes for radio astronomy
[09:23] <edmoore> and that ofcom is stifling innovation. A slight non-sequitor but worth a shot
[09:25] <gordonjcp> why is it a non-sequitur?
[09:26] <gordonjcp> ofcom have a pretty fine line to tread, but they do seem to be pretty much biased towards large wealthy organisations
[09:27] <gordonjcp> it would be trivial for them to RDF out the repeater jammers and unlicenced 0IQ callsign bods, but they spend all their time hunting pirate FM transmitters
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[09:50] <SpeedEvil> At some point you've gotta allocate funding.
[09:51] <SpeedEvil> Do you allocate it to the person interfering with a few dozen wanting to listen to xxx.fm, or the two wanting to use a repeater.
[09:52] <SpeedEvil> Same as do you buy a painting 'for the nation' for 50 million, when 99.9% of the population at best won't see it. And 99.9999% of people won't see it enough to differentiate it from a good reproduction.
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[12:58] <gordonjcp> ~
[12:59] <gordonjcp> SpeedEvil: yeah - but the problem is, the people listening to xxx.fm aren't paying money to Ofcom for the right to do so
[12:59] <SpeedEvil> Sure they are.
[12:59] <SpeedEvil> It's a taxed body
[12:59] <SpeedEvil> taxably funded body
[13:00] <SpeedEvil> body funded through taxation.
[13:07] <gordonjcp> you need to pay to licence a repeater
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> You need to pay to license a FM transmitter too.
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[16:11] <jcoxon> hey all
[16:14] <jcoxon> !messagin rharrison1971
[16:27] <Laurenceb> hehe
[16:27] <Laurenceb> hes never here when you want him
[16:27] <Laurenceb> you need an zeusbot powered edmoore trap
[16:28] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, hmmm that'll be a bit hard as a TCL script
[16:28] <Laurenceb> lookup his ip then drop a big cage from a hab
[16:28] <jcoxon> hehe
[16:29] <jcoxon> hey gordonjcp, just reading the logs
[16:29] <jcoxon> about your callsign
[16:29] <jcoxon> your callsign is M3YEQ, its only MM3YEQ when you are based in Scotland
[16:30] <jcoxon> so if you come south it'll be M3YEQ
[16:30] <jcoxon> same as if I go to scotland mine is MM6JCX
[16:32] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: correct
[16:32] <gordonjcp> what I *didn't* try is putting in M3xxx
[16:32] <jcoxon> oh right
[16:33] <jcoxon> so did MM3YEQ work?
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[16:35] <jcoxon> bbl
[17:04] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: no, I just hit "random"
[17:06] <jcoxon> back
[17:06] <jcoxon> fair enough
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[17:27] <Laurenceb> http://www.ic-board.de/product_info.php?info=p75_ICnova-AP7000-Base.html&XTCsid=f4009c63153f5d82f753739075292e5e
[17:28] <rharrison_quiet> jcoxon you messaged me
[17:30] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: have I mensitoned tincantools.com?
[17:37] Nick change: rharrison_quiet -> robert1971
[17:55] <jcoxon> haha
[17:55] <jcoxon> jnd, apolgies for an angry bot
[17:55] <jnd> not dumb
[17:56] <robert1971> that's cool
[17:56] <jcoxon> i've added a load of features:
[17:56] <robert1971> laters
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[17:59] <jcoxon> hey
[17:59] <jcoxon> the message only comes through when they talk next
[18:02] <jnd> hey bot
[18:03] <jnd> my bot has same feature but tells it in (any) channel
[18:03] <jcoxon> oh okay
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[18:11] <natrium42> ed | more
[18:14] <jcoxon> natrium42, ?
[18:15] <natrium42> the hacking attempt?
[18:15] <jnd> paging editor?
[18:26] <Laurenceb> http://www.core.st/AVR32/
[18:26] <Laurenceb> ^ likes
[18:35] Action: jnd wants
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[19:01] <jcoxon> evening edmoore
[19:25] <edmoore> jcoxon: yo
[19:25] <edmoore> we are set for saturday
[19:28] <natrium42> ooh
[19:28] <natrium42> :)
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[19:28] <kamaji> :|
[19:30] <edmoore> what is up kamaji ?
[19:30] <kamaji> I finally got all my shit together >_>
[19:30] <kamaji> so i'm (at last) playing with that GM862 module
[19:30] <kamaji> hooray :D
[19:30] <kamaji> you guys?
[19:31] <kamaji> launching on sat?
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[19:35] <edmoore> yep
[19:38] <kamaji> cool, what's on it this time?
[19:38] <edmoore> channel 5 coming to film
[19:38] <edmoore> trying a UK altitude record
[19:38] <kamaji> oooh, very nice
[19:39] <jcoxon> hey edmoore sorry was cleaning our kitchen
[19:39] <jcoxon> back
[19:39] <jcoxon> so saturday
[19:39] <edmoore> yup
[19:39] <jcoxon> okay
[19:39] <edmoore> morning but not antisocially so
[19:39] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:55] <jnd> what hw?
[19:56] <edmoore> what do we transmit on at CUSF, anyone?
[19:56] <edmoore> what was the spacing on the rtty? I have a complete mental blank
[19:57] <jcoxon> give me a sec
[19:57] <jcoxon> i'll just check my settings
[19:58] <edmoore> and after that, you might like to check the settings on your decoder program
[19:58] <jcoxon> shift 425
[19:58] <jcoxon> speed is 50 i think
[19:59] <jcoxon> mode is ascii-7 reversed
[19:59] <edmoore> yep yep, got the rest
[19:59] <edmoore> just the spacing
[19:59] <edmoore> ty!
[19:59] <edmoore> actually, the format?
[19:59] <edmoore> an example string, i mean
[19:59] <jcoxon> oh
[19:59] <edmoore> is that lrking?
[19:59] <edmoore> lurking*
[19:59] <jcoxon> i'll find a log
[19:59] <edmoore> ty
[19:59] <jcoxon> Badger 3802,12:25:13,4,52.2476,-0.0502329,5832.19,6,0
[20:00] <edmoore> cheers
[20:00] <edmoore> I've forgotten what half of it means
[20:00] <edmoore> oh dear me, i think I'm about to have a stroke
[20:00] <jcoxon> callsign cycles, time, lat, long, alt, sats
[20:01] <edmoore> no, in between time and lat
[20:03] <jcoxon> actually could that be number of sats
[20:03] <jcoxon> or time since last sat
[20:03] <jcoxon> as it increases slowly 0 - 4
[20:05] <edmoore> i rmemeber now
[20:05] <edmoore> seconds since last gps update
[20:07] <jcoxon> whats teh ground weather going to be like on sat?
[20:07] <jcoxon> also would you like me to update the topic?
[20:09] <edmoore> please
[20:09] <edmoore> yeah
[20:09] <edmoore> ok i think
[20:09] <edmoore> ot that exciting
[20:09] <edmoore> not*
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[20:10] <jcoxon> Nova 10?
[20:10] <edmoore> 9
[20:11] <jcoxon> Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) www.ukhas.org.uk, wiki.ukhas.org.uk, logs: http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/zeusbot/, Nova 9 launch - Saturday 18/10/08
[20:12] <jcoxon> Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) www.ukhas.org.uk, wiki.ukhas.org.uk, logs: http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/zeusbot/, Nova 9 launch - Saturday 18/10/08 -> #highaltitude99
[20:13] <jcoxon> hmmm, the chase car
[20:13] <jcoxon> any way of tracking that?
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[20:53] <rharrison1971> edmoore U there sir
[20:53] <edmoore> yep
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[21:18] <rharrison1971> jcoxon the zeusbot got me with the message
[21:18] <rharrison1971> cool
[21:18] <rharrison1971> jcoxon Talked with ed going to launch Sat 8am
[21:18] <rharrison1971> ICARUS I
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[21:43] <soneil> looks like I won't beable to follow along this time .. I'll be in the air about the same time as nova
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