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[00:47] <Laurenceb> I've just been doing some tests
[00:48] <Laurenceb> looks good, the gps fix seemed to be stable
[00:48] <Laurenceb> and the kalman filter was stable, there was just a bit of noise from me running along with it - I really need to use a bike for the next test
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[01:59] <Laurenceb> http://www.dpieshop.com/trimble-lassen-iq-12-channel-gps-module-p-237.html
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[08:16] <Xenion> Guuuuuuuuuuten Morgen !!! :-) | Goooooood Morning
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[08:32] <jcoxon> morning all
[08:38] <jcoxon> :-)
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[09:00] <jcoxon> morning edmoore
[09:00] <edmoore> good morning!
[09:00] <edmoore> and what a struggle it is this morning
[09:00] <jcoxon> i've added some zeusbot functionaility
[09:00] <edmoore> I only had one drink and went to bed early, and I feel dire.
[09:00] <jcoxon> haha
[09:01] <jcoxon> i celebrated my birthday last night and don't feel that bad
[09:01] <edmoore> oh wait - happy bday!!
[09:01] <edmoore> 23?
[09:01] <jcoxon> indeed
[09:01] <jcoxon> watch this
[09:01] <edmoore> I wonder what happens if Dire Straights tour with Chris Rea
[09:01] <edmoore> does that grab the first wikipedia sentence?
[09:02] <jcoxon> no you teach it
[09:03] <edmoore> !learn add jcoxon The one man you want when you get injured whilst HABing
[09:03] <jcoxon> hmmmm
[09:03] <jcoxon> you were too quick
[09:03] <jcoxon> it'll give you a definition added message
[09:04] <jcoxon> hmmm its got antispam things
[09:04] <edmoore> smart
[09:05] <jcoxon> we could also do:
[09:06] <jcoxon> zeusbot is getting a bit more clever
[09:06] <jcoxon> you can teach zeusbot in other channels - its centralised database
[09:08] <edmoore> oh very cool
[09:08] <edmoore> should give him an interface to PyInTheSky
[09:08] <edmoore> ... when it's in any decent shape anyway
[09:09] <jcoxon> wouldn' be too difficult
[09:09] <jcoxon> i understand how to do the tcl bit
[09:09] <jcoxon> oooooo we could use it for a message system
[09:09] <edmoore> that would be very useful
[09:09] <jcoxon> when you login in :
[09:10] <edmoore> you'd have to leave your name
[09:10] <jcoxon> yeah i realised that
[09:11] <jcoxon> actually i've found a better script for that
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[09:13] <jcoxon> !msg edmoore Hey
[09:13] <jcoxon> edmoore, could you login and out for me and see if this works
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[09:17] <jcoxon> anything?
[09:17] <edmoore> router fiddling
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[09:25] <jcoxon> hello
[09:25] <jcoxon> edmoore_, got messaging working
[09:25] <edmoore_> cool
[09:25] <jcoxon> say something
[09:25] <jcoxon> anything
[09:25] <jcoxon> it just needs to see your name appear
[09:26] <edmoore_> ok
[09:26] <edmoore_> oh nice
[09:26] <edmoore_> what's the comand?
[09:27] <jcoxon> "/msg zeusbot !msg jcoxon MESSAGE
[09:27] <jcoxon> "
[09:27] <jcoxon> !msg jcoxon TEST
[09:27] <jcoxon> nah you need to directly message zeusbot
[09:28] <jcoxon> and then it'll send the message when either they join or talk
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[09:36] <jcoxon> right enough zeusbot messing around
[09:36] #highaltitude: mode change '+o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[09:37] Topic changed on #highaltitude by jcoxon!n=jcoxon@host86-148-58-20.range86-148.btcentralplus.com: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) www.ukhas.org.uk, wiki.ukhas.org.uk, logs: http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/zeusbot/, zeusbot commands: !help
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[12:23] <Laurenceb> hello
[12:23] <jcoxon> hey Laurenceb
[12:33] <SpeedEvil> Lo.
[12:34] <Laurenceb> is there any way to show public footpaths in google earth?
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[14:16] <Laurenceb> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8664890805877937233&hl=en
[14:25] <Laurenceb> will I fry a 3.3v voltage reg if I put 3.3v on the output pin and leave the input floating?
[14:26] <SpeedEvil> Read the datasheet
[14:26] <SpeedEvil> IIRC that case is typically not well specified
[14:27] <SpeedEvil> Is the load always going to be more than 1mA?
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[14:27] <Laurenceb> yes
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[14:27] <Laurenceb> why does the load effect it?
[14:27] <SpeedEvil> You could put a1K from input dto output
[14:27] <SpeedEvil> Or a1n4007 from inputt o ouuttp
[14:27] Action: SpeedEvil wonderes what's up withh is keyboard.
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[14:46] <Laurenceb_> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/73659.pdf
[14:46] <Laurenceb_> ^ thats what I'm using
[14:46] <Laurenceb_> page 2, apsolute max on Vout=5.5V
[14:47] <Laurenceb_> so I'm ok?
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[18:26] <jcoxon> evening all
[18:33] <gordonjcp> hello
[18:33] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: /j ##amateur-radio ;-)
[18:33] <gordonjcp> and indeed any other amateurs or interested parties
[18:39] <jcoxon> hey gordonjcp
[18:39] <jcoxon> yeah i've been listening to a few things
[18:39] <jcoxon> built a Moxon antenna and now can pick up the local repeater
[18:50] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: cool
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[19:22] <natrium42> hi
[20:03] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[20:04] <natrium42> nice weather here this weekend
[20:04] <natrium42> very warm
[20:05] <jcoxon> how was the talk?
[20:06] <natrium42> it went well, i think
[20:06] <natrium42> will take a few weeks before it goes online
[20:06] <jcoxon> excellent
[20:06] <jcoxon> fair enough
[20:07] <jcoxon> that was my next question
[20:07] <natrium42> :)
[20:07] <natrium42> i guess they send the raw video to a specialist
[20:07] <natrium42> who is responsible for editing it for online use
[20:07] <natrium42> so it takes a while
[20:09] <natrium42> http://hothardware.com/News/Apple-Admits-Nvidia-GPU-Defect-in-MacBook-Pros/
[20:09] <natrium42> mine seems to be affected :(
[20:09] <jcoxon> oh no
[20:10] <jcoxon> i've been tryin to do some 70cm band stuff
[20:10] <jcoxon> but no one is around on the calling the channel
[20:12] <natrium42> have you tried repeaters?
[20:12] <jcoxon> i can get one repeater
[20:12] <jcoxon> but its got a funny shift
[20:12] <jcoxon> not sure how to pick it up
[20:13] <jcoxon> well i know how to pick it up - not sure how to tx to it
[20:14] <natrium42> well, there must be some hams in your proximity
[20:14] <natrium42> :P
[20:16] <jcoxon> you'd think
[20:16] <jcoxon> of well - its a quiet band
[20:16] <jcoxon> made a Moxon antenna
[20:17] <jcoxon> interested to see how good it is for balloon tracking
[20:28] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: which repeater?
[20:29] <gordonjcp> 70cm is totally *dead* up here
[21:07] <natrium42> bah
[21:07] <natrium42> need longer coax cable
[21:07] <gordonjcp> heh
[21:08] <natrium42> gordonjcp, can i buy regular coax cable from HW store?
[21:08] <gordonjcp> depends what kind
[21:08] <gordonjcp> TV coax or satellite coax, yes probably
[21:08] <natrium42> what should i pay attention to?
[21:08] <gordonjcp> well, what do you need it for?
[21:09] <natrium42> cable between receiver and antenna tuner
[21:09] <natrium42> *transceiver
[21:09] <natrium42> PL-259 connectors
[21:12] <gordonjcp> in which case you'll probably want RG-8 or RG-58
[21:12] <gordonjcp> what kind of frequency are you on?
[21:12] <natrium42> original cable is about 1/4 inch in diameter
[21:14] <gordonjcp> probably RG-58 then
[21:15] <natrium42> RG-8 has less loss, eh?
[21:15] <gordonjcp> yup
[21:15] <gordonjcp> are you working on HF?
[21:16] <natrium42> yes
[21:17] <natrium42> i need to install the ATU outside
[21:17] <natrium42> so there are about 20 meters between transceiver and ATU
[21:17] <natrium42> transceiver is in the basement
[21:19] <natrium42> does it make a difference if the center conductor is braided instead of single stranded?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> no
[21:19] <gordonjcp> well, it makes the cable more flexible
[21:19] <gordonjcp> why are you mounting the ATU outside, and is it designed for that?
[21:20] <natrium42> yeah, it's weather proof
[21:20] <natrium42> it has to be outside, since it drives long wire antenna
[21:20] <gordonjcp> right, ok
[21:20] <natrium42> also need to extend the control cable :P
[21:21] <natrium42> but that's easy
[21:21] <gordonjcp> hrmm
[21:21] <gordonjcp> I have about 80m of a 100m roll of RG58
[21:21] <gordonjcp> you're probably too far away for it to be worth your while picking it up
[21:22] <natrium42> yeah, shipping will be too expensive
[21:22] <natrium42> but thanks for the offer
[21:22] <natrium42> i will check if local hardware store has anything
[21:22] <natrium42> otherwise there's a radio store 100 km away
[21:23] <gordonjcp> ebay
[21:23] <gordonjcp> where are you, anyway?
[21:23] <natrium42> waterloo, ontario
[21:24] <natrium42> that's in canada
[21:24] <natrium42> :)
[21:24] Action: gordonjcp googlemaps
[21:25] <natrium42> hehe
[21:26] <gordonjcp> hm, looks like a reasonable-sized place
[21:27] <gordonjcp> I don't know what your local equivalent of Maplin is, Radio Shack maybe?
[21:27] <gordonjcp> they might have it
[21:27] <natrium42> maybe
[21:27] <natrium42> i will go there and check if i don't find anything in HW store
[21:28] <gordonjcp> looks like quite a nice place ;-)
[21:28] <natrium42> hehe
[21:28] <natrium42> surrounded by lakes, though
[21:28] <natrium42> *big* lakes
[21:29] <gordonjcp> 100km isn't a big deal, either
[21:29] <gordonjcp> where's your nearest electronics place?
[21:29] <natrium42> yah
[21:29] <natrium42> well, there is one about 20 mins of driving
[21:29] <natrium42> but the HAM place is in toronto
[21:29] Action: gordonjcp used to commute around 270*1.6 km
[21:29] <natrium42> i go to toronto quite often
[21:29] <gordonjcp> wow, I'd no idea you're that far south
[21:29] <natrium42> just... wanted to install HF antenna this long weekend :P
[21:30] <gordonjcp> 430km, or something like that
[21:30] <natrium42> where are you?
[21:30] <gordonjcp> Glasgow, in Scotland
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[21:30] <natrium42> right
[21:31] <natrium42> your whois shows finland :P
[21:31] <gordonjcp> yeah, that's because my server is in finland ;-)
[21:31] <natrium42> tricky
[21:31] <gordonjcp> it's something that people in the US and Canada forget - not Canada so much, I suppose
[21:32] <gordonjcp> nearly everyone in the UK is further north than most of the population of continental America
[21:32] <gordonjcp> *North America
[21:32] <natrium42> yep
[21:32] <natrium42> but you have the gulf stream
[21:32] <gordonjcp> true
[21:33] <gordonjcp> back home (around 10 degrees further north than you) we have six hours of daylight in the winter, though
[21:33] <natrium42> it's above 20 celsius today
[21:33] <gordonjcp> otoh at midsummer we have 18 hours of daylight
[21:34] <gordonjcp> I have sat in my garden on midsummer's morning having come back from a barbecue still a bit too awake to sleep, and sat in my garden at 3am reading a book and drinking a beer
[21:35] <natrium42> nice
[21:35] <natrium42> bbl, tennis, sorry
[21:37] <jnd> Richard Garriott, W5KWQ, to communicate with Students and Ham Radio Operators World-wide through the Amateur Radio Station on-board the International Space Station (ISS) http://www.southgatearc.org/news/september2008/richard_garriott_on_iss.htm
[21:38] <jnd> launch at 7:01 GMT
[21:43] <jnd> will be sstv too
[21:47] <natrium42> which freq?
[21:49] <natrium42> bbl for real
[21:49] <gordonjcp> 145.8 apparently
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[22:41] <gordonjcp> EI5GTB__: hello
[22:41] <gordonjcp> EI5GTB__: /j ##amateur-radio if you're interested ;-)
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[22:50] <EI5GTB__> gordonjcp, hai
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