highaltitude.log.20080928

[00:14] <gordonjcp> hi
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[01:09] <jcoxon> hey all
[01:10] <jnd> hey
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[01:17] <natrium42> hey jcoxon
[01:18] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[01:18] <natrium42> sup?
[01:20] <jcoxon> not much
[01:20] <jcoxon> just got back from a party
[01:20] <natrium42> did you fix your POST/GET thing?
[01:20] <jcoxon> hmmmm yes/no
[01:20] <jcoxon> i changed my version of the tracker to POST
[01:20] <jcoxon> and it started uploadin
[01:21] <jcoxon> however i haven't got theformat right so it isn't displaying
[01:22] <jcoxon> i'll get it sorted soon
[01:24] <natrium42> k
[01:24] <jcoxon> right i better be off
[01:24] <jcoxon> have to get up early tomorrow
[01:25] <natrium42> nite
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[04:39] <fuzzylugnuts> just checking for rob.
[04:40] <fuzzylugnuts> I had found a pic of my tehtered test, and wanted to show him how different the wind situation was. http://coyotefirecracker.selfip.com/balloon_1/img_0414.jpg
[04:41] <fuzzylugnuts> laters
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[07:50] <jcoxon> morning all
[07:50] <jcoxon> natrium42_, ping
[07:50] <jcoxon> natrium42_, do you mind if i delete the badger and chase car track on the tracker?
[08:06] <jcoxon> bbl
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[08:59] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:04] <natrium42_> jcoxon, sure, go ahead
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[11:06] <jcoxon> hey guys
[11:06] <jcoxon> we've launched
[11:06] <SpeedEvil> hye
[11:07] <SpikeUK> Yay!
[11:07] <jcoxon> so its on 434.075Mhz if anyone wants to try and listen
[11:07] Action: SpeedEvil concentrates his mental powers, and fails to pick up anything.
[11:08] <jcoxon> hehe
[11:13] <SpikeUK> Nowt in Weybridge jcoxon - Realistic scanner + 1/4 wave in loft - can you estimate hight please?
[11:14] <jcoxon> SpikeUK, will get back to you when the next data comes through
[11:14] <SpikeUK> jcoxon - cheers!
[11:14] <jcoxon> it only relays gps every 3 mins
[11:21] <jcoxon> 3890m
[11:22] <jcoxon> 52.248551667 0.01976
[11:25] <SpikeUK> Ta - north east of Cam?
[11:25] <jcoxon> yup
[11:25] <jcoxon> going east
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[11:26] <SpikeUK> Ta jcoxon!
[11:27] <jcoxon> 5214.9914 00002.2593 5218.5m
[11:32] <gordonjcp> ok, I'll give it a go
[11:33] <jcoxon> gordonjcp, good luck
[11:36] <jcoxon> 5213.6508 00009.3013 7678.8m
[11:38] <jcoxon> hmmm that was a bit of a jump
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[11:41] <SpikeUK> Indeed!
[11:43] <edmoore> hello
[11:43] <edmoore> waht's happening?
[11:46] <jcoxon> 5210.9009 00018.1465 10315.8m
[11:46] <edmoore> oooh
[11:46] <edmoore> where are you?
[11:48] <jcoxon> oh at EARs
[11:48] <edmoore> not chasing?
[11:49] <edmoore> what's the ascent rate like?
[11:49] <jcoxon> nah
[11:50] <jcoxon> about 80m/min
[11:50] <edmoore> wow
[11:50] <edmoore> low
[11:51] <edmoore> gonna get her back?
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[11:55] <jcoxon> 5207.4669 00027.2650 12858.6m
[11:55] <SpeedEvil> What's payload - just beacon?
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[11:56] <fnoble> jcoxon, isit in the air now?
[11:59] <jcoxon> yeah
[11:59] <jcoxon> last data was 12858m
[11:59] <edmoore> jcoxon: 80m/min is... slow
[12:00] <jcoxon> its a crap balloon
[12:00] <edmoore> might take an altitude recrod methinks :)
[12:00] <jcoxon> will burst very early on
[12:00] <edmoore> oh ok
[12:00] <jcoxon> hmmmm its just started drifting
[12:00] <jcoxon> not a good sign
[12:00] <edmoore> the radio?
[12:00] <fnoble> how heavy is the payload and what balloon is it on?
[12:00] <edmoore> i_am_ed: no. I am ed
[12:00] <jcoxon> 200g
[12:00] <jcoxon> balloon
[12:00] <edmoore> haha
[12:01] <fnoble> jcoxon, is it on the tracker?
[12:01] <edmoore> jcoxon: is it the radio that's drifting?
[12:04] <jcoxon> the radio is drifting
[12:04] <jcoxon> ooo its come back
[12:04] <jcoxon> and is going down
[12:04] <jcoxon> wobbling
[12:04] <edmoore> burst?
[12:04] <jcoxon> yeah
[12:05] <jcoxon> it was the back up peg I balloon
[12:05] <edmoore> last position?
[12:05] <jcoxon> gone quite yellow/orange
[12:06] <jcoxon> only got the bit
[12:06] <jcoxon> 605 00036.6899
[12:06] <jcoxon> there is some 52**.*605
[12:09] <fnoble> so what was on this one? a gumstix?
[12:09] <jcoxon> no sjust my arduino beacon
[12:14] <edmoore> going to get her back?
[12:14] <jcoxon> thats the plan
[12:14] <jcoxon> but...
[12:14] <jcoxon> the radio seems to have gone now
[12:14] <jcoxon> which is not good
[12:15] <jcoxon> stupid radio
[12:16] <edmoore> fox hunt!
[12:18] <jcoxon> indeed
[12:18] <jcoxon> cold radio
[12:19] <gordonjcp> oh, did I miss it?
[12:19] <gordonjcp> ach well
[12:19] <gordonjcp> just back from buying antenna bits
[12:22] <jcoxon> yeah
[12:22] <jcoxon> gordonjcp, the radio wasn't performing great
[12:22] <jcoxon> radiometrix are stil the way forward
[12:24] <edmoore> aye!
[12:25] <jcoxon> i had high hopes for these circuit design
[12:25] <jcoxon> they are good as long as they are kept warm
[12:27] <i_am_ed> Hi
[12:28] <gordonjcp> well I'm just about to build a collapsible 11-ele 70cm beam
[12:28] <i_am_ed> What's just been launched?
[12:29] <jcoxon> right i'll bbl
[12:29] <jcoxon> time to go and find it
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[12:30] <edmoore> i_am_ed: jcoxon has just launched a beacon
[12:31] <i_am_ed> based upon his FHALP-3?
[12:32] <edmoore> I beleive it's a new design
[12:32] <edmoore> to test as part of his SSTV mission
[12:35] <i_am_ed> it'd good to see things still going here. I was inspired to start building a balloon 2 years ago. I had a gumstix logging GPS reliably and was trying to get it to talk to a mobile phone. Then the gumstix broke and that was that for the time being.
[12:37] <edmoore> well things see to be going pretty well. People are getting more ambitious
[12:40] <SpeedEvil> Anyone happen to know what the legalities of tethered balloons on long (500Km) strings are?
[12:40] <SpeedEvil> (500m)
[12:41] <SpeedEvil> Not _quite_ that ambitious yet.
[12:43] <jnd> :)
[12:49] <edmoore> 500m is, i think, permission requiring
[12:49] <edmoore> i forget the 'don't need to tell anyone' limit, but it's significantly less than 500m
[12:50] <SpeedEvil> Remember any keywords I might search on?
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[13:10] <robert1971> Afternoon all
[13:10] <robert1971> Been away in the Lakeditrict for the w/e
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[13:14] <SpeedEvil> 'n
[13:15] Action: SpeedEvil has been looking at hardcore - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170265416985
[13:16] <SpeedEvil> And other driveway related products.
[13:18] <robert1971> Looks like you have some expense comming your way SpeedEvil
[13:20] <SpeedEvil> Aiming to do it the very cheap way. :)
[13:20] <SpeedEvil> Little more than membrane + gravel I think.
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[13:41] <edmoore> robert1971: greetings
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[13:44] <jatkins> hi all
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[16:19] <edmoore> i_am_ed: are you tempted to restart the project?
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[16:52] <edmoore> jatkins: hi
[16:52] <jatkins> hi
[16:53] <jatkins> just looking at this
[16:53] <jatkins> http://www.rapidonline.com/Cables-Connectors/Connectors-Multipole/PCB-Interconnect/Single-row-PCB-socket/29748/kw/PCB%20Interconnect
[16:53] <jatkins> not sure which of the two is the right one
[16:53] <jatkins> I'm guessing the one in the pic is 40-way?
[16:54] <edmoore> yep
[16:54] <jatkins> although I don't understand the 3-way one; I didn't know they sell them that short
[16:54] <jatkins> ok
[16:54] <jatkins> that's kinda weird
[16:54] <jatkins> http://www.rapidonline.com/Cables-Connectors/Connectors-Multipole/PCB-Interconnect/Single-row-PCB-socket/29748/kw/PCB%20Interconnect
[16:54] <jatkins> the 40-way male one is 25p each
[16:55] <jatkins> v. £1.80 each
[16:55] <edmoore> don't know
[16:55] <jatkins> np
[16:55] <jatkins> btw
[16:55] <edmoore> i guess it's just scales of economy
[16:55] <jatkins> yeah
[16:55] <jatkins> I'm a bit confused about what connector to use with the iq
[16:55] <jatkins> did you mean solder to the smd mating?
[16:56] <jatkins> or get another header for it?
[16:56] <jatkins> i.e. thin->thick header
[16:56] <edmoore> yes i think so - basically make up a custom cable for it
[16:56] <jatkins> ok
[16:56] <edmoore> so you can plug it into the arduino
[16:57] <jatkins> so I just need to find a small female header and then solder that to a diecimila-sized (I think 2mm) male header?
[16:59] <edmoore> yes
[16:59] <jatkins> is that what you do on nova?
[17:00] <edmoore> or solder wires directly to the smd header that might have been supplied with the lassen
[17:00] <jatkins> yeah
[17:00] <edmoore> no, we get our own PCBs made up so we make a footprint specifically for the lassen smd connector
[17:00] <edmoore> no wires
[17:00] <jatkins> ok
[17:00] <jatkins> do you use batchpcb.com or something similar?
[17:00] <edmoore> but it makes little difference
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[17:08] <jcoxon> Hey everyone
[17:08] <Hiena> He jcoxon !
[17:09] <jcoxon> Hey
[17:10] <Hiena> How thing going?
[17:11] <RocketboyV1> jcoxon :back already- or on the train
[17:11] <jcoxon> Still on the train
[17:12] <edmoore> jcoxon: so what's the exec summary?
[17:14] <RocketboyV1> jcoxon: the 12Z data is there now
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[17:21] <edmoore> jcoxon: did you find it?
[17:22] <edmoore> or RocketboyV1
[17:27] <RocketboyV1> nope - lost - it just sort of faded away a couple of times - we lost it on the way down
[17:27] <RocketboyV1> I think it was a cold problem (IMO)
[17:28] <edmoore> the circuit designs do seem to have exhibited behaviour consistant with that, historically
[17:29] <RocketboyV1> it was going ok for quite a while - then started to drift down in frequency - then it faded out, came back amd then faded away again
[17:29] <i_am_ed> edmoore: (16:19) i_am_ed: are you tempted to restart the project? Yes, but only on the cheap ;)
[17:29] <edmoore> microcontrollers!
[17:29] <edmoore> or, if you like linux still, check out the ngw100
[17:29] <SpeedEvil> Lego!
[17:30] <SpeedEvil> ngw100 is nice
[17:30] <SpeedEvil> It'd be nicer if you could order a 'bare' one.
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[17:35] <i_am_ed> What kind of temperatures are typiclly anticipated?
[17:35] <SpeedEvil> i_am_ed: up to -50C or so
[17:36] <SpeedEvil> i_am_ed: down to ratehr
[17:36] <SpeedEvil> i_am_ed: maybe a little lower - not much lower.
[17:36] <i_am_ed> Cambridge Uni must have some freezers you can test in
[17:36] <i_am_ed> I think the Vet School at Cambridge has one, actaully
[17:37] <edmoore> i_am_ed: are you a cambridge local?
[17:37] <i_am_ed> although I left 4 years ago so I'm a bit out of touch
[17:37] <edmoore> oh right. Well I'm from CUSF - cusapceflight.co.uk
[17:37] <edmoore> as is fnoble
[17:37] <edmoore> cuspaceflight.co.uk*
[17:38] <i_am_ed> I matriculated at queens in, errr, '98, I think
[17:39] <edmoore> what did you read?
[17:39] <i_am_ed> Veterinary
[17:39] <edmoore> makes sense. Well we have the place fairly scoped for useful-to-ballooning facilities
[17:40] <i_am_ed> :)
[17:40] <edmoore> as for low temps, we have an environmental chamber - a biscuit tin with some LN2 poured in
[17:41] Action: SpeedEvil wishes he could obtain L*2 eaily
[17:41] <i_am_ed> sounds like it should do the trick
[17:41] <i_am_ed> do you use insulation on the payload?
[17:41] <edmoore> yes
[17:42] <edmoore> especially the radio - it has quite a thick jacket of foam and space blanket, then heatshrink over everything
[17:42] <edmoore> useful, especially as it looks like jcoxon's loss today was from the radio being too cold
[17:42] <i_am_ed> I suppose the battery provides some reasonable heat?
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> i_am_ed: not really.
[17:42] <i_am_ed> i suppose the power usage is pretty low
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> i: at least at teh really slow discharge rates used in ballooning
[17:42] <edmoore> burning through the watt hours is useful - linear regulators probably do the most
[17:42] <SpeedEvil> i_am_ed: supplementary heaters may be of use.
[17:43] <edmoore> we've never resorted to that - just a decent amount of insulation should be more than sufficient
[17:43] <edmoore> though we mainly design our own flight computers, all with industrially/automotivally rated parts
[17:43] <SpeedEvil> Yeah. And reasonable sealing, and it's pretty much OK.
[17:44] <edmoore> so an off the shelf unit might not be industrially rated
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> The faceplate filter means you don't have a filter poking out of your master socket, which can get kicked :/
[17:44] <SpeedEvil> oops
[17:57] <i_am_ed> I think the gumstix I've got needs a bit of soldering, then I need to work out again how to login to it...
[18:07] Action: SpeedEvil ponders GPS phones with good insurance.
[18:07] <SpeedEvil> 'yes, my phone got tangled in the string, I don't know where it went'.
[18:07] <edmoore> :)
[18:12] <Shanuson> will some of you guys watch spaceX's flight 4?
[18:14] <i_am_ed> I stumbled across www.zoombak.co.uk the other day. I wonder if it might be a worthwhile backup system for recovery?
[18:15] <SpeedEvil> Heavy IIRC
[18:15] <i_am_ed> essentially a commercial GPS tracking system that uses GSM for communication.
[18:15] <edmoore> I think robert1971 uses something similar
[18:16] <i_am_ed> £99 to buy and £9.99 monthly charge
[18:16] <SpeedEvil> The really cheap option is a cheap phone, and a web-locator service.
[18:16] <edmoore> you could ofcourse do it yourself...
[18:17] <edmoore> SpeedEvil: They're only so good
[18:17] <edmoore> no substitute for gps
[18:17] <SpeedEvil> Good enough for a backup locator to get you in range for foxhunting
[18:18] <edmoore> i_am_ed: check out this device - http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7917
[18:18] <edmoore> you can foxhunt without that - it's when the radio goes down that those kinds of things are useful
[18:18] <edmoore> i_am_ed: for the same initial cost, you have a gsm modem + gps with a python interpreter onboard
[18:18] <edmoore> you just add a PAYG sim - no monthly fee
[18:19] <edmoore> write a bit of python that pings the gps back to the sender
[18:19] <SpeedEvil> edmoore: if you start off in range.
[18:19] <i_am_ed> that's pretty goopd
[18:19] <edmoore> i_am_ed: several of us have used them
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[18:43] <jcoxon> hey all
[18:43] <natrium42> hi
[18:43] Action: jcoxon is home now
[18:44] Action: natrium42 pokes jcoxon to update the topic
[18:44] <robert1971> i_am_ed: I do have the gps gsm system
[18:44] <robert1971> bit heavy so may not fly
[18:45] Action: natrium42 reads log
[18:45] <robert1971> Need edmoore: to do his magick
[18:45] <robert1971> jcoxon: How did your foundation course go
[18:45] <edmoore> jcoxon: hi
[18:45] <edmoore> magic?
[18:45] <robert1971> Like you did with your camera
[18:45] <edmoore> oh
[18:45] <jcoxon> robert1971, oh my foundation exam is next week
[18:46] <jcoxon> i've managed to lose Mk I instead :-D
[18:46] <edmoore> that's not magic, that's knowing it won't be you paying if you go a step too far
[18:46] <robert1971> Oh dear:
[18:46] <edmoore> but the important lessons have been learnt! jcoxon: have you seen the radio on badger?
[18:47] <jcoxon> edmoore, yup
[18:47] <Hiena> Hindsight: One neutralizing grid is not enough after the 100kV corona emitters.
[18:47] <edmoore> lots of insultation
[18:47] <jcoxon> RocketboyV1, yeah just looking at the 12z, its pretty much the same
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[18:48] <edmoore> are you guys trying to figure out where it might have gone?
[18:48] <jcoxon> well we were comparing the points we had with the forecast
[18:48] <jcoxon> then we followed it to see if it had landed
[18:49] <edmoore> no back-from-the-dead pulsing?
[18:49] <jcoxon> unfortunately not
[18:49] <jcoxon> it'll pop up eventually
[18:49] <jcoxon> has contact details on it
[18:50] <jcoxon> i reckon its pretty close to where i live
[18:50] <robert1971> So in simple words what went wrong.
[18:50] <robert1971> Did the radio stop tx ing
[18:50] <jcoxon> yeah the radio started drifting, disappeared came back, wobbled then stopped
[18:51] <jcoxon> it all started at burst
[18:52] <edmoore> no antenna entaglement?
[18:52] <edmoore> antanglement, perhaps
[18:53] <jcoxon> could be
[18:53] <jcoxon> did have a support straw
[18:54] <robert1971> Was it a gp antena?
[18:55] <jcoxon> more of a monopole
[18:55] <jcoxon> it was designed to be above the payload so it would be better at broadcasting on landing
[18:55] <jcoxon> rather then get squashed down like a downfacing 1/4wave
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[18:55] <fuzzylugnuts> Heya
[18:56] <fuzzylugnuts> any of you folks use the SEN-08311 from sparkfun?
[18:59] <robert1971> edmoore: r u arround for the 4th?
[18:59] <robert1971> If I rem. you were going to bring a group along to the launch
[19:00] <fnoble> robert1971, where are you launching from?
[19:11] <edmoore> robert1971: yes
[19:11] <edmoore> fnoble: churchill I beleive
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[19:12] <edmoore> jcoxon: are you still launching on the 4th?
[19:12] <edmoore> robert1971: am tied up until about 11.30 at the earliest
[19:12] <edmoore> fnoble: john is in churchill that day (to give a talk)
[19:12] <jcoxon> edmoore, i'm not sure
[19:13] <edmoore> radiometrix - £5
[19:13] <edmoore> ukhas meet - priceless
[19:13] <fnoble> edmoore, robert1971 is launching from churchill? cool, well ill be in cambridge for the cusf stuff thats going on on the 4th
[19:13] <edmoore> 5th*
[19:14] <SpikeUK> robert1971 - The other day you were looking for a source of 2x 3-way IDC connectors suitable for ISP use. The only place in the UK that I've been able to find these are http://www.toby.co.uk/content/catalogue/products.asp?series=101-W-xx-R1 currently out of stock but I'll be ordering some when they arrive - you are welcome to a few if you can wait!
[19:14] <edmoore> sat 4th = robert and possibly james. 5th = us
[19:14] <edmoore> though the researcher may pop up on the 4th to see what a launch looks like
[19:14] <jcoxon> our launch today was hot
[19:14] <jcoxon> really smooth
[19:15] <edmoore> robert1971: shout nearer the time (perhaps friday morning) and we'll buzz the cambridge air tower
[19:15] <fnoble> edmoore, yeah i know
[19:15] <fnoble> edmoore, im going to be up in camb from the 2nd anyway
[19:16] <jcoxon> edmoore, if we were to launch, can we use your helium?
[19:16] <edmoore> jcoxon: maybe not - we'll have to see. we have a launch on sunday
[19:16] <edmoore> that has to happen
[19:16] <jcoxon> of course
[19:16] <jcoxon> hence why i'm checking
[19:16] <fnoble> well we can get more bottles
[19:16] <edmoore> fnoble: I understand BOC man is getting us a new less leaky reg
[19:17] <fnoble> yup thats right
[19:17] <fnoble> not sure when it will materialise though
[19:18] <fnoble> robert1971, if you let me know what format your radio tx is in then i can setup our rig for backup tracking
[19:19] <edmoore> might have to truetty it as I beleive it's cw?
[19:20] <fnoble> oh i see
[19:20] <edmoore> RocketboyV1: ping
[19:21] <fnoble> rtty > cw
[19:21] <edmoore> he knows :p
[19:21] <fnoble> (but i would say that im not fluent in morse)
[19:22] <fnoble> this should be a fun few days, the firs week of october
[19:22] <edmoore> yeah certainly pretty hectic
[19:23] <edmoore> i've got engineering freshers taking up most of my time thursday and friday
[19:23] <fnoble> im maxed out working on the torch atm, but hopefully ill get a couple of days to work on the new mapping
[19:24] <fnoble> edmoore, i didnt really understand what you were saying earlier though, do we have a gps we can attach to the computer whilst in the car?
[19:24] <edmoore> yes - it's a usb gps
[19:24] <edmoore> comes with multiplatform drivers
[19:25] <fnoble> you got one of the sparkfun ones
[19:25] <edmoore> no - a cheaper better one
[19:25] <fnoble> ok, cool
[19:25] <fnoble> but this is distinct from the handheld we now have
[19:25] <edmoore> http://www.amazon.co.uk/GlobalSat-BU-353-WaterProof-Receiver-SiRF/dp/B000PKX2KA
[19:25] <edmoore> correct, it is distinct
[19:25] <fnoble> ok
[19:26] <fnoble> looks nice :)
[19:26] <edmoore> it's not arrived yet, only ordered it on friday
[19:26] <fnoble> also, whats iain doing with the mobile broadband, will we have it in time for the launch?
[19:27] <edmoore> i emailed you today
[19:27] <edmoore> about that
[19:27] <fnoble> ok
[19:27] <fnoble> *checks*
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[19:29] <RocketboyV1> edmoore: you called
[19:29] <fnoble> edmoore, my answer to you email is "yes"
[19:29] <edmoore> yeah - did you get my email about ears?
[19:29] <edmoore> actually will pm
[19:30] <edmoore> fnoble: ok
[19:30] <edmoore> if it works out I may just get one for me - it looks to be a good deal
[19:30] <edmoore> get one for me too*
[19:30] <fnoble> yeah indeed
[19:31] <fnoble> ok, so ill have a think about getting the tracker to interface to the ukhas tracker website
[19:33] <edmoore> yeah
[19:33] <edmoore> I think you can just send emails?
[19:34] <fnoble> yup, although its easier to use it through its GET/POST interface
[19:34] <edmoore> sure
[19:35] <fnoble> or at least so i would have thought, but jcoxon had some problems with the python libraries
[19:35] <edmoore> ok I will order that usb key. fnoble could you re-check infiniteorbit.org/badger?
[19:35] <fnoble> they dont seem to playball
[19:35] <jcoxon> fnoble, POST works
[19:35] <jcoxon> but the tracker aint set up for POST :-p
[19:36] <fnoble> edmoore, ok it seems to work for me now, can you pm me my uname/pass
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[19:41] <SpikeUK> Hey all! I see to be have troub getting through to robert1971 re offer of 2 x 3-way IDC connectors - please could I ask someone to mention it to hime when he next passes this way! Ta!
[19:41] <edmoore> jcoxon: could zeusbot be rigged up to leave messages?
[19:42] <jcoxon> might be able to
[19:42] <jcoxon> what sort of messages
[19:42] <jcoxon> as in next time some one logs in?
[19:42] <edmoore> yeah
[19:43] <jcoxon> probably
[19:43] <edmoore> !message robert1971 you are a poo
[19:43] <edmoore> or something
[19:43] <jcoxon> will check first there isnt'a a script already
[19:47] <icez> edmoore: why not memoserv?
[19:48] <edmoore> I don't know - I'm not the person to ask about irc bots
[19:48] <icez> memoserv is a freenode service to leave messages
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[20:24] <edmoore> bbiab restart
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[20:51] <jcoxon> fnoble, edmoore do you guys know where to get radiometrix 434.075Mhz modules?
[20:51] <edmoore> direct from them?
[20:51] <jcoxon> yeah i've emailed sales
[20:51] <jcoxon> just wondering if there were anyother retailers
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[21:42] <fuzzylugnuts> newark = crack
[21:52] <gordonjcp> so
[21:53] <gordonjcp> I'll need to get a photo taken, maybe tomorrow, with my new antenna
[21:54] <fuzzylugnuts> what did you get?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> I built another 70cm yagi
[21:55] <fuzzylugnuts> ah, coool
[21:55] <fuzzylugnuts> how many elements?
[21:55] <gordonjcp> this is quite cool, because it breaks down in such a way that you can it long or short
[21:55] <gordonjcp> it can either be 6-ele or 11-ele
[21:56] <fuzzylugnuts> wow, lots of gai
[21:56] <fuzzylugnuts> n
[21:56] <gordonjcp> yeah, it seems to be pretty okay
[22:00] <fuzzylugnuts> so are all you folks going to launch soon?
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[22:44] <edmoore> fuzzylugnuts: I beleive robert and james might be launching this saturday
[22:45] <edmoore> and we will be on saturday
[22:45] <edmoore> sunday, even
[22:45] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey, good luck!
[22:46] <fuzzylugnuts> I wish I could launch with you guys. No one here seems to have any hobbies, they just go home and wait to go to work the next day.
[22:46] <edmoore> launch anyway! spread the hobby love
[22:47] <fuzzylugnuts> I'm working on it, ordered a bunch of stuff from newark to get my tracking capsule up and running.
[22:47] <fuzzylugnuts> some of the guys from ATDD are interested
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[23:02] <fuzzylugnuts> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
[23:03] <fuzzylugnuts> the VX-8R came out!
[23:04] <edmoore> that's good?
[23:04] <fuzzylugnuts> uber good
[23:04] <fnoble> edmoore, check it out
[23:04] <fnoble> edmoore, lookslike an awesome radio
[23:04] <edmoore> i just did
[23:04] <edmoore> it looks pretty
[23:04] <edmoore> but
[23:04] <fnoble> bad for your wallet though
[23:04] <edmoore> i know where my money will be going
[23:06] <fnoble> where is that?
[23:07] Action: fuzzylugnuts turns 14 hours of work into a vx-8r
[23:08] <edmoore> natrium42: ping
[23:08] <fuzzylugnuts> I might as well get an vhf/uhf amplifier for the car while I'm at it.
[23:12] <fuzzylugnuts> merry christmas to me.
[23:19] <fuzzylugnuts> ahhhh, buying loads of good ham equipment is like an expensive hooker... costs alot but is totally worth it.
[23:42] <gordonjcp> here you go
[23:43] <gordonjcp> if you'd bought £1000 worth of Northern Rock shares a year ago, they'd be worth £4.95 today
[23:43] <fuzzylugnuts> super
[23:43] <gordonjcp> HBOS? A grand's worth of shares a year ago would be worth 17 quid
[23:44] <gordonjcp> XL Travel - again, about a fiver
[23:44] <gordonjcp> if
[23:44] <gordonjcp> however
[23:44] <gordonjcp> *if* you went to Asda and spend £1000 on beer
[23:44] <gordonjcp> and then today you weighed in the cans at your local scrappy
[23:44] <gordonjcp> you'd have about £220 for the aluminium
[23:46] <fuzzylugnuts> so sad
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