highaltitude.log.20080925

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[07:56] <jcoxon> morning all
[07:57] <gordonjcp> hi
[07:59] <jcoxon> hehe, i thought my lipo charger was broken cause the LED was always on
[07:59] <jcoxon> but apparently actually its now working properly
[07:59] <jcoxon> and wasn't previously :-p
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[08:01] <rharrison_> moring all
[08:01] <jcoxon> hey rharrison_
[08:01] <rharrison_> jcoxon: You at work today sir
[08:01] <jcoxon> indeed
[08:01] <rharrison_> Bright and breezy, I'm sure I didn't leave you till gone 12 last night
[08:02] <jcoxon> well its lectures for me
[08:02] <rharrison_> I'm at work too :(
[08:02] <jcoxon> from 9 till 5.30
[08:02] <rharrison_> It a hrad life for a Dr
[08:02] <rharrison_> Quite a few of my friend are Dr's
[08:02] <jcoxon> if ony l iwas a DR
[08:02] <jcoxon> :-p
[08:02] <jcoxon> hehe
[08:02] <jcoxon> one day...
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[08:04] <rharrison_> Made chute last night out of old bin liner. Did some tests this morning with payload out of bathroom window. about 1m/s
[08:04] <rharrison_> Contemplating a fox hunt tonight.
[08:05] <rharrison_> morng edmoore
[08:05] <jcoxon> wonder who will hear it first
[08:05] <rharrison_> Other thn me :-P
[08:06] <rharrison_> I guess after 1k anyone shoudl be able to hear it in the uk
[08:06] <edmoore> morning
[08:06] <gordonjcp> oh crap, huge AO-51 pass
[08:06] <gordonjcp> brb
[08:07] <rharrison_> where is gordonjcp?
[08:07] <edmoore> does that mean he's doing a No. 2?
[08:07] <rharrison_> lol
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[08:09] <jcoxon> bbl
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[08:12] <gordonjcp> bah
[08:12] <gordonjcp> it's annoying to discover that the same kind of wallies that fuck about on the local repeater are determined to jam the satellites too
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[08:49] <edmoore> SpeedEvil: I have come to the conclusion that cheap UPSs just aren't worth it at all
[08:50] <edmoore> they end up causing more problems/crashes than they fix
[08:50] <SpeedEvil> I just had a power cut.
[08:50] <SpeedEvil> 10s long.
[08:50] <SpeedEvil> And the PC reset.
[08:51] <SpeedEvil> (it is plugged into the UPS)
[08:51] <SpeedEvil> I guess it's handover time.
[08:57] <edmoore> poo, missed jcoxon
[08:57] <edmoore> need the man's experience in building linux distros
[09:03] <SpeedEvil> Use lots of cement.
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[15:49] <SpeedEvil> Inspiration! http://www.flickr.com/groups/374667@N20/
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[16:58] <jcoxon> afternoon all
[17:01] <natrium42> hi jcoxon
[17:02] <jcoxon> hey natrium42
[17:03] <natrium42> sup?
[17:03] <natrium42> did robert launch his beacon yet, btw?
[17:03] <jcoxon> i think its a 7pm
[17:03] <jcoxon> its 5 right now
[17:04] <natrium42> oh, okay
[17:04] <jcoxon> so t- 2hrs
[17:05] <natrium42> incidentally i have an assignment due in 2 hours
[17:05] <jcoxon> not sure i'll be able to hear it
[17:05] <natrium42> and i have to start doing it
[17:05] <jcoxon> haha
[17:06] <natrium42> should be easy, though
[17:06] <natrium42> do you have a yagi?
[17:07] <jcoxon> nope
[17:07] <jcoxon> just my whip
[17:07] <jcoxon> hmmmm actually i might be able to
[17:07] <natrium42> whip it good
[17:08] <jcoxon> consider if could receive nova 7 when it was up in nottingham
[17:08] <natrium42> do you use preamp?
[17:08] <jcoxon> not an external one
[17:09] <jcoxon> just running a forecast
[17:10] <natrium42> who is robert launching with?
[17:10] <jcoxon> just himself
[17:10] <natrium42> it has to be from one of the approved sites, rite?
[17:11] <natrium42> i like turtles
[17:11] <jcoxon> turtles are cool
[17:15] <jcoxon> oooo forecast
[17:15] <jcoxon> interesting
[17:16] <natrium42> does it land in your backyard?
[17:16] <jcoxon> hehe i don't have a backyard
[17:16] <jcoxon> 2nd floor flat :-p
[17:16] <natrium42> ah
[17:16] <jcoxon> pretty much heading due south
[17:16] <jcoxon> so towards me and away from gordonjcp
[17:17] <gordonjcp> ah
[17:17] <jcoxon> about 8km
[17:17] <natrium42> so you can win!
[17:17] <jcoxon> 82km
[17:17] <jcoxon> sorry
[17:17] <natrium42> by picking it up first
[17:17] <jcoxon> if anyone is in cambridge they'll win
[17:17] <gordonjcp> I may as well not bother, it's already basically going to be below the horizon unless it goes outside its expected height
[17:18] Action: gordonjcp hatches plans to go to the pub instead
[17:18] <jcoxon> if rocketboy listens out he'll win
[17:18] <jcoxon> as he has a nice big yagi
[17:18] <natrium42> go rocketboy!
[17:18] <jcoxon> gordonjcp, :-(
[17:18] Action: gordonjcp has a 5-ele crossed yagi
[17:18] <jcoxon> pub = :-)
[17:18] <natrium42> QRP
[17:18] <natrium42> :)
[17:34] <natrium42> zomg, i heard my first HAM communication
[17:35] <jcoxon> natrium42, you get a receiver then?
[17:35] <natrium42> yeah, yesterday
[17:35] <jcoxon> which one?
[17:35] <natrium42> ic-7000
[17:35] <jcoxon> oh wowo
[17:35] <natrium42> need to set up HF antenna... only got UHF/VHF set up atm
[17:36] <natrium42> yeah, it's nice, but i dunno how to use it yet :S
[17:36] Action: jcoxon is a little jealous
[17:36] <jcoxon> and your licence?
[17:36] <natrium42> figured out how to listen to regular radio early morning
[17:36] <natrium42> next month, hopefully
[17:36] <natrium42> :)
[17:37] <jcoxon> cool
[17:37] <natrium42> now that it stares me in the face
[17:37] <natrium42> i will tend more to study for it
[17:41] <natrium42> jcoxon, their powersupplies were a ripoff
[17:41] <natrium42> at $200 or so
[17:41] <natrium42> i just used a spare computer PS
[17:41] <natrium42> bound all the 12V wires together
[17:41] <natrium42> since it needs 25 amps max
[17:42] <jcoxon> :-D
[17:42] <jcoxon> good thinking
[17:43] <natrium42> economics of scale :S
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[17:43] <edmoore_> jcoxon: YO
[17:44] <jcoxon> hey edmoore_
[17:44] <natrium42> hi ed
[17:52] <edmoore_> hi natrium42
[17:53] <edmoore_> won't be able to listen this evening unfortunately
[17:53] <jcoxon> edmoore_, you at home? or cam?
[17:53] <natrium42> then you lose the contest
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[17:53] <natrium42> :P
[17:53] <natrium42> Hi Hiena
[17:54] <Hiena> ' evening!
[17:54] <edmoore_> jcoxon: cam
[17:54] <jcoxon> oh okay
[17:54] <jcoxon> anyone listening from cam?
[17:54] <edmoore_> we have the tv company filing on sunday after your beacon launch
[17:54] <edmoore_> don't think so
[17:54] <jcoxon> you guys launching then?
[17:55] <jcoxon> or is this other footage
[17:55] <edmoore_> yes, launching
[17:56] <jcoxon> oh cool
[17:56] <jcoxon> from churchill?
[17:56] <edmoore_> yep
[17:56] <jcoxon> approx what time?
[17:57] <edmoore_> 11ish probs
[17:57] <jcoxon> oh okay
[17:57] <edmoore_> they are renting a big car for the chase
[17:57] <edmoore_> to fit film crew in too
[17:57] <jcoxon> :-D
[17:57] <edmoore_> and they have a presenter doing the letting go
[17:57] <natrium42> edmoore_, very cool
[17:57] <edmoore_> and phoning thee tower
[17:58] <natrium42> which channel?
[17:58] <jnd> interesting
[18:00] <edmoore_> 5
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[18:05] <edmoore_> fno
[18:05] <edmoore_> ble
[18:05] <edmoore_> = fnoble
[18:05] <edmoore_> i wonder if there are any words which, when the ascii values are muliplied, produce the same word
[18:05] <edmoore_> or some part of the original word
[18:06] <edmoore_> i do not wonder this enough to investigate it however
[18:06] <natrium42> lol...
[18:07] <fnoble> hello ed
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[18:12] <robert1971> evening all
[18:13] <jcoxon> evening ro
[18:13] <jcoxon> robert1971,
[18:13] <jcoxon> got it finally
[18:13] <robert1971> Looks like ATC have been having fun this evening if you have heard the news
[18:13] <robert1971> :)
[18:13] <jcoxon> ?
[18:13] <robert1971> Air Traffic Control grounded to a halt apparently for 1/2 an hour this evening
[18:13] <jcoxon> oh
[18:13] <robert1971> I haven't launched yet. Nothing to do with me
[18:13] <jcoxon> hehe
[18:14] <jcoxon> thats what i feared
[18:14] <jcoxon> :-p
[18:15] <jcoxon> robert1971, run us through the plan then for this evening.
[18:15] Action: rocketboy stands by with his trusty FT790 and moonracker yagi at the ready
[18:16] <edmoore_> sadly we cant track this eve robert1971
[18:16] <edmoore_> :(
[18:17] <jnd> evening
[18:18] <natrium42> lol robert1971
[18:19] <robert1971> oh dear
[18:20] <robert1971> plan 4 2night
[18:20] <robert1971> put baby down at 7
[18:20] <robert1971> launch 8
[18:20] <robert1971> bst
[18:20] <rocketboy> any idea how many stations we will have on it - it would be good to map some idea of its loaction with some triangulation
[18:20] <jcoxon> i'm only on a whip
[18:22] <robert1971> sorting baby be back in 10
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[18:23] <natrium> edmoore_, http://picasaweb.google.com/natrium/HAM?authkey=wXya3n_pNOk#5250010345369585282
[18:23] <natrium> lul
[18:24] <edmoore_> natrium!!!!!
[18:24] <edmoore_> you didn't!?!?!?!
[18:24] <natrium> i was weak yesterday
[18:24] <natrium> :(
[18:25] <edmoore_> I
[18:25] <edmoore_> am
[18:25] <edmoore_> jealous
[18:26] <natrium> heard the first HAM communication today
[18:26] <natrium> can't transmit myself yet
[18:28] <edmoore_> it's so cool
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[18:31] <rocketboy> woo 0.11µV for 10db S/N - good
[18:31] <natrium> ?
[18:31] Action: rocketboy considers buying IC7000
[18:31] <natrium> it's a bit complex
[18:31] <natrium> i need to learn a lot
[18:31] <natrium> :)
[18:32] <rocketboy> its a measurment of how sensitive the reciver is on 70cm
[18:32] <natrium> rocketboy, i bought an ATU and wire
[18:32] <natrium> to make long wire antenna for HF
[18:32] <natrium> do you think that's a good route?
[18:32] <natrium> 20 meter length of wire
[18:33] <natrium> for 20 meter and 40 meter bands
[18:33] <rocketboy> yeah thats the normal way - use the ATU to match the impedance of the long wire to the 50 ohm comming out of the transmitter
[18:33] <edmoore_> rocketboy: when i saw that number i was excited too
[18:34] <edmoore_> then i saw the onboard rtty decoding
[18:34] <edmoore_> and was sold
[18:34] <edmoore_> just need loads-a-money now
[18:34] <rocketboy> then you saw the price?
[18:34] <edmoore_> oh i'm still sold
[18:34] <edmoore_> just, longer term ;)
[18:35] <natrium> i think it's a good price for what it does
[18:35] <natrium> seemed like the optimal setup for me to get started
[18:35] <natrium> not in the $3k range
[18:35] <natrium> and not in the cheap, throwaway range
[18:35] <rocketboy> oh yeah its all relative to the depth of your pocket
[18:37] <robert1971> natrium: Wow is that the Icon edmoore_ wanted
[18:37] <edmoore_> yes!!!
[18:37] <edmoore_> and still do!!!!
[18:37] <edmoore_> even more!!!
[18:37] <edmoore_> punctuation abuse!!!
[18:37] <natrium> but i found it first!!!
[18:37] <natrium> :P
[18:37] <natrium> and got edmoore_ hooked
[18:38] <edmoore_> yes, natrium found the beastie
[18:38] <edmoore_> bad idea
[18:39] <jcoxon> haha
[18:39] <natrium> damn eham.net review section --- spent too much time there
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[18:41] Action: natrium tries to listen for aircraft comms
[18:41] <rocketboy> I think the only real players in the market are icom and yeasu these days
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[18:47] <natrium> whoa, i heard something
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[18:53] <robert1971> natrium: You look vary happy in that picture
[18:53] <robert1971> Lets see that baby pick up this beacon tonight
[18:54] <natrium> hehe
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[18:56] <robert1971> Quick question. My yagi seems to be as strong in all directs 20 meters from the source. I suspect this should be the case
[18:56] <robert1971> Direction only occurs with some distance
[18:57] <jcoxon> at 20m you shouldn't find an variation really
[18:57] <robert1971> Launching party balloon now to test wind direction
[18:57] <jcoxon> it should just be really strong everywhere
[18:57] <robert1971> Will post picture of set up in the next 1/2 hour
[18:57] <jcoxon> makes the last bit of foxhunting quite a bit harder
[18:57] <robert1971> No shit
[18:58] <robert1971> I thought that
[18:58] <robert1971> That' swhen the weak gps coors must come in
[18:59] <jcoxon> is their gps onboard?
[18:59] <jcoxon> there*
[19:00] <rocketboy> or a audio bleeper
[19:00] <rocketboy> or ring the onboard mobile phone
[19:01] <rocketboy> or get some attenuators for the yagi
[19:03] <robert1971> No gps
[19:04] <robert1971> This is one avr 2 x aa and a radiometrix + GP antenna
[19:05] <jcoxon> cool
[19:05] Action: jcoxon has linked his altitude dial to his MControl software - it automatically updates the dial on the altitude
[19:06] <robert1971> Running wyoming data
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[19:13] Action: rocketboy considers buying another pair of attenuators - because he knows once he has placed the order the pair that he lost 18months ago will suddenly appear
[19:15] <robert1971> Right I can't seem to get wyoming to play ball
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[19:16] <robert1971> My lat is 53.655405 lon -1.670579
[19:17] <robert1971> Looks fine now
[19:25] <SpikeUK> jcoxon - are you there please?
[19:25] <robert1971> google earth kml file http://www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus/beacon20080925/
[19:27] <natrium> looks good, robert1971
[19:27] <robert1971> In the country at any rate
[19:27] <jcoxon> SpikeUK, yup
[19:29] <rocketboy> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=422204&y=345015&z=5&sv=422204,345015&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=422204&ay=345015 methinks
[19:29] <rocketboy> not far to go for you robert1971
[19:32] <robert1971> We'll we'll see
[19:32] <robert1971> well we'll see
[19:32] <natrium> well well :)
[19:32] <robert1971> A couple of pics up there now payload antenna
[19:33] <natrium> whoa nice
[19:33] <rocketboy> oops no http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=417458&y=331868&z=5&sv=417458,331868&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=417458&ay=331868 is better
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[19:39] <rocketboy> so - mobile broadband what's a good deal
[19:53] <jcoxon> 3 is probably cheapest
[19:54] <jcoxon> but they don't have great coverage
[19:55] <rocketboy> and u went for virgin
[19:55] <rocketboy> ?
[19:56] <jcoxon> oh i have ?
[19:56] <jcoxon> 3*
[19:57] <jcoxon> i reckon vodafone would have the best coverage
[20:01] <robert1971> Ok in the final few mins
[20:01] <robert1971> 20:05
[20:05] <robert1971> Ok
[20:05] <robert1971> 10
[20:05] <robert1971> 9
[20:05] <robert1971> 8
[20:05] <robert1971> 7
[20:05] <robert1971> 6
[20:05] <robert1971> 5
[20:05] <robert1971> 4
[20:05] <robert1971> 3
[20:05] <robert1971> 2
[20:05] <robert1971> 1
[20:05] <robert1971> 0
[20:05] <jcoxon> wooohooo
[20:06] <robert1971> Faye let it go
[20:06] <robert1971> It's going up fast
[20:07] <jcoxon> 434.650?
[20:07] <robert1971> By eye
[20:07] <robert1971> Yep
[20:08] <robert1971> Exciting
[20:08] <robert1971> I should chase this
[20:09] <jcoxon> does it have a light?
[20:09] <robert1971> No :( Stealth
[20:09] <jcoxon> so no UFO sighting then
[20:09] <robert1971> I thought of an led but a bit lat in the day
[20:09] <robert1971> No
[20:09] <robert1971> Signal very clear
[20:10] <jcoxon> anyone else listening out? rocketboy? gordonjcp?
[20:10] <robert1971> It can't be long before the height gets
[20:11] <rocketboy> not yet - its probably not worth it for 10 mins for me
[20:11] <robert1971> high enought for all
[20:12] <jcoxon> would this help?
[20:13] <jcoxon> http://www.qsl.net/w4sat/horizon.htm
[20:13] <robert1971> 434.651.12
[20:15] <rocketboy> ok ta is that a USB or LSB reading?
[20:15] <robert1971> No noise yet guys?
[20:15] <rocketboy> nope not hear
[20:15] <rocketboy> here
[20:15] <robert1971> I like the use of the word hear
[20:16] <jcoxon> nothing here
[20:16] <robert1971> Both meanings in one go
[20:16] <robert1971> My 10 pounds might be safe then
[20:16] <jcoxon> robert1971, LSB or USB?
[20:17] <robert1971> USB
[20:17] <robert1971> 434.651.48
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[20:18] <jcoxon> evening Xenion
[20:19] <rocketboy> I'm gonna pop out in the car to somewhere with radio quiet anyone near a phone I can ring?
[20:19] <jcoxon> rocketboy, yup
[20:19] <jcoxon> my mobile
[20:19] <rocketboy> ok i'll ring if i hear it
[20:19] <Xenion> Hello everybody :-) / Nabend Jungs !
[20:20] <robert1971> Yes
[20:20] <jcoxon> Xenion, we are all listening out for a small radio beacon on a balloon :-)
[20:20] <jcoxon> just been launched
[20:20] <robert1971> 01924 493949
[20:20] <robert1971> Though you can't call if you can decipher morse code
[20:20] <robert1971> 434.651.44
[20:23] <robert1971> 434.651.66
[20:23] <robert1971> Loud and clear
[20:23] <Xenion> jcoxon, cool !
[20:23] <Xenion> :-)
[20:23] <Xenion> jcoxon, what does this beacon do ?
[20:23] <robert1971> Beeps a morse message
[20:24] <robert1971> There are 3 words and a counter
[20:24] <robert1971> If you type the 3rd word on here and it's right you get a tenner in the post
[20:24] <Xenion> whats a tenner ?
[20:24] <Xenion> :D
[20:25] <robert1971> Ten pounds
[20:25] <Xenion> cool idea :D
[20:26] <robert1971> Come on guys you're not trying hard enough
[20:26] <robert1971> Loud and clear here Signal strength 5
[20:26] <robert1971> 434.651.64
[20:27] <robert1971> Morse signals crystal
[20:29] <robert1971> 100th signal revieved loud and clear
[20:29] <robert1971> There is a counter
[20:29] <robert1971> We should have skyped in
[20:29] <robert1971> 434.651.78
[20:30] <robert1971> Signal strength 5
[20:31] <jcoxon> nothing here
[20:31] <jcoxon> i am in central london - so lots of noise
[20:31] <robert1971> Arse
[20:31] <robert1971> I was hoping someone would get something
[20:31] <jcoxon> oh come on
[20:31] <jcoxon> there is loads of flight left
[20:31] <robert1971> Very excited how clear the signal is
[20:34] <robert1971> This is amazing 30 mins into flight now
[20:34] <robert1971> Crystal clear signals
[20:34] <robert1971> Signal strength 4
[20:35] <robert1971> very clear night
[20:35] <Xenion> robert1971, is it logged into the phone network via gsm ?
[20:35] <robert1971> No
[20:35] <robert1971> It's a sarcrifice
[20:35] <robert1971> Esp as there is no light on the bugger
[20:35] <robert1971> Fox hunting must be a nightmare
[20:36] <Xenion> today i recieved all of my electronic parts for me first HALO start :-)
[20:36] <Xenion> i'm lookin forward to november
[20:37] <robert1971> Xenion: Congratualtions
[20:37] <jcoxon> nothing from rocketboy yet
[20:37] <robert1971> Signal strenght 2
[20:37] <Xenion> robert1971, no need for congrats right now .. save it for the launch :D
[20:38] <robert1971> I have had a fantastic amount of fun over the last three months doing this
[20:38] <robert1971> Wallet is a bit lighter though
[20:38] <Xenion> robert1971, my wallet state 30 bucks ... thats "bad" ...
[20:38] <Xenion> :D
[20:39] <robert1971> 434.652.17
[20:42] <jcoxon> robert1971, what wpm is it?
[20:43] <robert1971> 5
[20:44] <robert1971> 434.652.25
[20:44] <robert1971> Signal strength 3
[20:45] <robert1971> I went for low words per min
[20:48] <jcoxon> rocketboy has it
[20:49] <robert1971> Whicked
[20:50] <robert1971> Does he have the password
[20:50] <robert1971> well the word
[20:50] <jcoxon> nah he can't decode it yet
[20:50] <jcoxon> but has a signal
[20:50] <jcoxon> nothing on my end yet
[20:50] <jcoxon> but i am only on a whip
[20:50] <robert1971> Signal strength 5
[20:50] <robert1971> Adjusted antenna
[20:50] <robert1971> Will post log later
[20:53] <robert1971> Signal 8 after another readjust
[20:53] <robert1971> 434.652.10
[20:59] <robert1971> Whicked nearly an hour in the sky
[21:08] <jcoxon> still nothing here
[21:08] <jcoxon> have a tone on 434.646.6
[21:09] <jcoxon> but its continous
[21:09] <fnoble> robert1971, do you hope to recover this one?
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[21:10] <iNatrium> Hi
[21:10] <iNatrium> What's the status?
[21:11] <jcoxon> 1 hour in the air
[21:11] <jcoxon> robert1971, still has a clear signal
[21:11] <jcoxon> rocketboy picked up the signal with his yagi
[21:11] <iNatrium> Cool
[21:11] <jcoxon> i've got nothing :-(
[21:12] <iNatrium> Rocketboy wins
[21:12] <jcoxon> he didn't decode!
[21:12] <jcoxon> i might still
[21:12] <iNatrium> Oh, LOL
[21:12] <iNatrium> Err ok
[21:13] <iNatrium> iPhone spellcheck
[21:13] <rocketboy> yeah I definatly hear it - you don't get much slow morse on 434MHz
[21:13] <rocketboy> too weak to decode here
[21:13] <robert1971> this is 5 words per min
[21:13] <rocketboy> but its there
[21:14] <rocketboy> thar sounds about right
[21:14] <iNatrium> Robert, so you plan to find it?
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[21:20] <robert1971> no
[21:20] <robert1971> signal lost?
[21:21] <robert1971> found
[21:28] <robert1971> 434.641.55
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[21:33] <jcoxon> robert1971, if the signal is wobbling it usually means that its burst
[21:38] <robert1971> signal back
[21:39] <robert1971> 434.638.63
[21:41] <jcoxon> oooo its getting cold
[21:45] <rocketboy> When I heard it it was on about 434.648.5
[21:50] <robert1971> onwway down now i think
[21:52] <robert1971> i'm getting tap dancingon the line
[21:52] <robert1971> any ideas
[21:54] <rocketboy> whay clicking - no tone?
[21:54] <rocketboy> what
[21:54] <robert1971> sigal getting clearer
[21:54] <robert1971> rocketboy do you have a phone number
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[22:04] <robert1971> crystal cleart now
[22:04] <robert1971> Cristal clear signal
[22:09] <jcoxon> what freq?
[22:13] <jcoxon> WOOOO
[22:13] <jcoxon> got something
[22:13] <jcoxon> robert1971,
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[22:13] <robert1971> Just talking with rocket boy
[22:14] <robert1971> signal is perfect here
[22:14] <jcoxon> i've picked it up
[22:14] <jcoxon> 434.638.8
[22:14] <robert1971> I'm just waiting for it to land in the back garden
[22:14] <robert1971> That's me
[22:15] <robert1971> Any chance of a decode?
[22:15] <jcoxon> maybe by ear
[22:15] <jcoxon> but i'm not great
[22:16] <robert1971> have you got a number
[22:16] <fuzzylugnuts> tethered?
[22:17] <rocketboy> bbl
[22:19] <fuzzylugnuts> I want one of these.... http://www.noaa.inel.gov/capabilities/smartballoon/smartballoon.htm
[22:25] <robert1971> fuzzylugnuts: No
[22:26] <robert1971> It's free
[22:26] <robert1971> 434.635.90
[22:26] <fuzzylugnuts> Oh cool!
[22:26] <fuzzylugnuts> good luck
[22:26] <robert1971> No pics just beacon calling
[22:26] <fuzzylugnuts> Ok
[22:27] <fuzzylugnuts> going to retrieve it?
[22:27] <robert1971> Nope :)
[22:27] <robert1971> 35 quid up in smoke
[22:27] <robert1971> Well lost
[22:27] <fuzzylugnuts> eh, you figure how much gas it would cost to chase it down
[22:28] <robert1971> It's has a bin liner for a parachute
[22:28] <robert1971> IE black
[22:28] <robert1971> and no light on it
[22:28] <fuzzylugnuts> haha, nice.
[22:31] <fuzzylugnuts> got an altitude?
[22:32] <robert1971> nope: No gps
[22:32] <robert1971> Will sort that for next time
[22:32] <fuzzylugnuts> ahh ok
[22:32] <fuzzylugnuts> nifty
[22:32] <robert1971> Signals getting weeks
[22:32] <robert1971> weak
[22:32] <robert1971> Impact soon
[22:32] <robert1971> ?
[22:33] <robert1971> That is so not a goo word
[22:33] <robert1971> good word
[22:33] <fuzzylugnuts> "Low drift decent"
[22:34] <jnd> no paper if you found it call/send to...?
[22:34] <robert1971> No
[22:34] <robert1971> I should have dome that
[22:34] <robert1971> I inteded to put mobile on it
[22:34] <robert1971> intended
[22:35] <fuzzylugnuts> I put 20 bucks in with mine to pay for shipping
[22:37] <robert1971> I'll pay by paypal first :)
[22:38] <fuzzylugnuts> haha... yeah.. they probably took the cash and my gps... it was a hiking model.
[22:39] <fuzzylugnuts> do you folks checksum your rtty packets?
[22:39] <robert1971> CW
[22:39] <robert1971> morse code
[22:39] <jcoxon> fuzzylugnuts, no
[22:39] <robert1971> :)
[22:40] <jcoxon> robert1971, its drifting loads
[22:40] <fnoble> fuzzylugnuts, no, but plan to in future
[22:40] <fnoble> fuzzylugnuts, it helps so much with rejecting duff packets
[22:41] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah
[22:42] <jcoxon> back later
[22:42] <jnd> next time put there speaker which will shout "help me" every minute or so :D
[22:42] <fuzzylugnuts> hahaha
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[22:50] <robert1971> signal still loud and clear
[22:50] <robert1971> Nearly 3 hrs
[22:50] <fuzzylugnuts> wow
[22:50] <fuzzylugnuts> how much lift?
[22:50] <fuzzylugnuts> er, free lift
[22:51] <robert1971> Humm good question
[22:51] <robert1971> About 300g
[22:51] <fuzzylugnuts> ah ok
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[22:52] <natrium42> back
[22:54] <robert1971> 434.633.80
[22:55] <natrium42> still up?
[22:55] <robert1971> Yep
[22:55] <natrium42> nice
[22:55] <robert1971> Loud and clear signals
[22:55] <robert1971> Should be on the way down now
[22:55] <fuzzylugnuts> it probably landed on your house ; P
[22:55] <robert1971> If not nearly at ground
[22:55] <robert1971> I'm planning for it to land in the backgraden
[22:55] <robert1971> garden
[22:56] <fuzzylugnuts> haha
[22:56] <robert1971> I wan't a big prize if I do that
[22:56] <robert1971> want
[22:56] <jnd> I think its there for at least half an hour now :p
[22:56] <jnd> already landed
[22:56] <fuzzylugnuts> I'll get you a big bottle of Sapphire gin
[22:56] <robert1971> I'm getting a bit of drift
[22:56] <robert1971> and the signals getting quieter
[22:57] <robert1971> at 23:05 it will have been 3 hours
[22:58] <natrium42> ¿s1e‡ ݞ1l ‡no ÝooT slPuƒ1s Ýe‡ _o Ýoos op
[22:58] <fuzzylugnuts> haha...
[22:58] <fuzzylugnuts> thats neat
[22:58] <robert1971> That is cool
[22:59] <natrium42> :P
[22:59] <robert1971> how the hell did you do that
[22:59] <robert1971> I'm on usb
[22:59] <natrium42> with the magic of unicode
[22:59] <natrium42> http://www.revfad.com/flip.html
[22:59] <robert1971> Signals getting very weak now
[23:00] <robert1971> I'm going to loose it soon
[23:00] <fuzzylugnuts> have it eat more Wheaties next time
[23:06] <robert1971> Sigals lost
[23:06] <robert1971> game over
[23:06] <natrium42> R.I.P.
[23:07] <gordonjcp> wow, you were tracking it right up to now?
[23:08] <gordonjcp> wish I'd got Carolyne to put the Yagi in the car now
[23:08] <gordonjcp> which way did it go?
[23:10] <fuzzylugnuts> up, then down
[23:12] <robert1971> Right last call for the secret word being broadcast
[23:12] <robert1971> 5
[23:12] <robert1971> 4
[23:12] <robert1971> 3
[23:12] <robert1971> 2
[23:12] <robert1971> 1
[23:12] <robert1971> No takes
[23:12] <robert1971> takers
[23:13] <natrium42> oh oh
[23:13] <natrium42> "highaltitude" ?
[23:13] <robert1971> OK the secret word was boris
[23:13] <robert1971> the last line recievec was icarus ukhas boris 485
[23:14] <natrium42> lol
[23:15] <gordonjcp> now he's climbing up my atmosphere
[23:15] <gordonjcp> white and rubbery, rather small
[23:15] <gordonjcp> (doesn't scan, does it? Apologies to The Who)
[23:16] <robert1971> Good call though gordonjcp
[23:16] <robert1971> 210mb of wav file
[23:17] <natrium42> congrats on first flight! :)
[23:18] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, now you're hooked and your bank account will drain into helium
[23:18] <fuzzylugnuts> and balloons, and radios
[23:19] <robert1971> Thanks you sir. Thanks for all your input and pointing me to ukhas. It seems a lifetime has passed since I wrote on your halo website that I was going to have a go
[23:19] <natrium42> sure thing
[23:19] <robert1971> It was only last may I think it was. Can't belive I had never held a soldering iron befor then
[23:22] <fuzzylugnuts> *makes the sound of a cherry popping*
[23:23] <gordonjcp> heigh-ho
[23:23] <gordonjcp> I'd better have a shot then
[23:23] <robert1971> gordonjcp: You should
[23:23] <gordonjcp> quite keen to try a tethered-balloon crossband repeater
[23:23] <robert1971> thanks fuzzylugnuts
[23:24] <robert1971> That would be cool. gordonjcp: You up in scotland?
[23:24] <robert1971> I have just brought 400meters of specialist kite string for the next teathered launch
[23:25] <fuzzylugnuts> sweet
[23:25] <fuzzylugnuts> got a winch for it or are you winding by hand?
[23:25] <robert1971> by hand
[23:25] <fuzzylugnuts> wow
[23:25] <robert1971> THere is no effort
[23:25] <fuzzylugnuts> you are hardcore
[23:25] <robert1971> the ballon has ablut .3 kg lift
[23:25] <robert1971> about
[23:26] <fuzzylugnuts> and the wind does't take it
[23:26] <fuzzylugnuts> ?
[23:26] <robert1971> The last launch at 120 meters had 5 meter deviation due to wind. It was the stillest day i ever remember last w.e
[23:26] <robert1971> w/e = weekend
[23:26] <fuzzylugnuts> holy cow
[23:27] <robert1971> And I live on top of a big hill
[23:27] <fuzzylugnuts> when i did a tethered launch the string was at a 45 degree angle
[23:27] <robert1971> Imagry from tonights efforts
[23:27] <robert1971> http://www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus/beacon20080925/
[23:28] <robert1971> fuzzylugnuts: I was very lucky with the wind
[23:28] <fuzzylugnuts> Yeah, I'd say
[23:29] <fuzzylugnuts> though one of the guys from the idaho group said one launch the balloon went right up, and snaked back too them, and landed within a mile... crazy weather.
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[23:34] <robert1971> right guys I'm off and away at the weekend for a house warming party.
[23:35] <fuzzylugnuts> have fun
[23:35] <robert1971> Don't forget we'll be back on the 4th for a beacon launch with gps and a camera
[23:35] <natrium42> later, have fun
[23:35] <robert1971> I'm going to get balloon burst. I have just recieved the 32 gb sd card i ordered
[23:35] <natrium42> looking forward to next launch
[23:35] <robert1971> Need a big battery for the camera
[23:36] <robert1971> natrium42: Enjoy your new toy.
[23:36] <robert1971> fuzzylugnuts: jcoxon: natrium42: rocketboy: gordonjcp: jnd: EI5GTB__ nights
[23:37] <rocketboy> night
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[23:37] <natrium42> not a lot of communication on local repeater
[23:37] <fuzzylugnuts> aww. I feel all special now.
[23:37] <natrium42> fuzzylugnuts, fuzzylugnuts fuzzylugnuts
[23:37] <natrium42> :D
[23:37] <fuzzylugnuts> ee!
[23:38] <fuzzylugnuts> biggy smalls, biggy smalls, biggy smalls...
[23:39] <natrium42> lol
[23:39] <fuzzylugnuts> omg it works!
[23:40] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey, you guys use Radiometrix stuff religiously, right?
[23:43] <fnoble> fuzzylugnuts, not all of us, i think jcoxon has used another brand
[23:43] <fnoble> and you use the lynx ones right?
[23:43] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah
[23:44] <natrium42> whick lynx module did you use, btw?
[23:44] <fuzzylugnuts> I just wondered because they could probably do a PR article on you folks. I buy 2 of their UHX-1s and they write a story about it : P
[23:44] <fuzzylugnuts> natrium42: LR series + amp to get ~ 50mw
[23:47] <fuzzylugnuts> http://coyotefirecracker.selfip.com/scrap/tran_315.jpg
[23:48] <fuzzylugnuts> its buttloads cheaper than the byonics microtracks if you're just going to loose them
[23:50] <natrium42> how much do they cost?
[23:52] Action: natrium42 digikeye'd it
[23:53] <fuzzylugnuts> $7 for transmitter $14 for receiver $15 for amplifier
[23:53] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, I was doing the same
[23:53] <fuzzylugnuts> you'll need the pre-amplifier on the receiver though
[23:53] <natrium42> did you use receiver?
[23:53] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, I didn't mess with trying to decode it
[23:54] <fuzzylugnuts> its ASK
[23:54] <fuzzylugnuts> but think of it this way, you only have to buy it once
[23:57] <fuzzylugnuts> I got pretty good range with them... was driving it straight from a gps at 4800
[23:59] <natrium42> very cool
[23:59] <natrium42> maybe i will go with them too
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