highaltitude.log.20080921

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[08:01] <robert1971> Morning all
[08:17] <ShellEvil> Motnging
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[09:15] <robert1971> Another sucessfull teatherd launch this morning
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[09:29] <ShellEvil> :)
[09:29] Action: ShellEvil wonders if robert1971 has been on the border of france recently collecting helium.
[09:35] <gordonjcp> ShellEvil: binbags and a dustbuster with a car adaptor...
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Hmm.....
[09:35] <gordonjcp> brb, B&Q
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[10:05] <robert1971> Ok for those who are interested there are a few pics and video from this morning's launch on http://www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus/20080921am
[10:06] <robert1971> It's teathered
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[11:02] <gordonjcp> robert1971: nice, what height were you at?
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[12:39] <ShellEvil> How much He is in that?
[12:46] <ShellEvil> cd /
[12:46] <ShellEvil> find . -ctime -4 -size +1000k -ls
[12:46] <ShellEvil> meh
[12:46] <jnd> su -
[12:47] <ShellEvil> root xterms ++
[12:47] <ShellEvil> (I have them with red backgrounds)
[12:47] <jnd> I have only one root
[12:48] <ShellEvil> Wow - unexpectedly verbose logs FTL.
[12:49] <ShellEvil> esniper - auction sniper doing 20M of logs for an auction.
[12:50] <jnd> fail
[12:51] <ShellEvil> OTOH - it's lightweight and commandline. I should have probably have edited the default config file, so it's my own fauly.
[12:57] Action: ShellEvil passes robert1971 a lawnmower.
[12:59] <ShellEvil> robert1971: is that some sort of automatic piviot for the camera, or is it string-driven?
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[13:18] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey
[13:18] <gordonjcp> hello
[13:18] <fuzzylugnuts> I found a pic of the last launch I did with the idaho group: http://coyotefirecracker.selfip.com/balloon_web_fin.jpg
[13:19] <fuzzylugnuts> that's hydrogen tanks in the background, and is why we're dressed in nomex flash suits
[13:19] <fuzzylugnuts> its nice having firefighters in the group, sometimes
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[13:20] <robert1971> ShellEvil: It got a servo on there
[13:20] <robert1971> It's
[13:22] <robert1971> gordonjcp: At 120m~ above ground. Ground = 178M above sea level
[13:24] <robert1971> fuzzylugnuts: Nice pic... Looks a bit hot with that kit on
[13:29] Action: ShellEvil wonders the practical limits of tethers.
[13:30] <ShellEvil> 0.5Kg of 3Kg monofilliment line goes a fair ways.
[13:31] <robert1971> .5mm
[13:31] <ShellEvil> ~0.04mm^2 cross-section makes it what - ...
[13:32] <ShellEvil> a gram every 15m or so?
[13:32] <ShellEvil> 700m?
[13:33] <fuzzylugnuts> robert1971: Yeah, it was kinda hot that day too.
[13:33] <fuzzylugnuts> ShellEvil: that spectra zero-stretch fishing line works extraordinarily well if you can keep yourself from being cut by it
[13:34] <ShellEvil> yeah - spectra is another order of magnitude.
[13:34] <ShellEvil> In principle you could go to silly heights.
[13:34] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, if it wasn't for the wind
[13:35] <fuzzylugnuts> I did a tethered launch for my first balloon stuff ever, went up about 1000ft on 2000ft of string
[13:35] <ShellEvil> I suppose 5-10MPH winds - with double lift - would get you to about 45 degrees
[13:36] <fuzzylugnuts> http://coyotefirecracker.selfip.com/balloon_1/balloon_1.html
[13:37] <fuzzylugnuts> I had to reel it in because there were cropdusters flying around : P
[13:37] <fuzzylugnuts> that chick in the pictures turned out to be insane, too.
[13:38] <ShellEvil> Insane in a good way?
[13:38] <fuzzylugnuts> not really.
[13:38] <fuzzylugnuts> bad-crazy
[13:39] <ShellEvil> hmm.
[13:39] <ShellEvil> spectra doesn't have a wikipedia entry.
[13:39] <fuzzylugnuts> :o
[13:39] <ShellEvil> It's what - 3GPa or so?
[13:39] <ShellEvil> And a bit less elastic than kevlar?
[13:40] <fuzzylugnuts> I don't know
[13:40] <fuzzylugnuts> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Spectra-Braid-Fishing-Line-60lb-1200m-Spool-dyneema_W0QQitemZ260289798994QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260289798994&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[13:40] <fuzzylugnuts> I use that stuff
[13:41] <ShellEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_silk
[13:41] <ShellEvil> A strand of spider silk long enough to circle the earth would weigh less than 16 ounces (450 g).
[13:41] <ShellEvil> That' can't be right...
[13:41] <ShellEvil> Page gives 3um or so as an average, so...
[13:41] <fuzzylugnuts> I believe it
[13:42] <ShellEvil> 9*10^-12m^2
[13:42] <ShellEvil> Hmm.
[13:42] <ShellEvil> Maybe.
[13:42] <ShellEvil> It's of the right order anyway.
[13:43] <ShellEvil> Artificial spider-silk would be great.
[13:43] <fuzzylugnuts> robert1971: was it you that was going to do a tethered launch?
[13:44] <ShellEvil> Ok for those who are interested there are a few pics and video
[13:44] <ShellEvil> from this morning's launch on
[13:44] <ShellEvil> http://www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus/20080921am
[13:44] <ShellEvil> (yes)
[13:44] <fuzzylugnuts> oh nifty
[13:46] <fuzzylugnuts> hey thats cool, servo camera goodness.
[13:46] <fuzzylugnuts> haha, who's that a picture of?
[13:51] <fuzzylugnuts> oh, lemme guess... rob? :)
[13:51] <ShellEvil> I think it's a fair guess.
[13:52] <ShellEvil> Unless he has minions.
[13:52] <fuzzylugnuts> he could!
[13:52] <fuzzylugnuts> Mr Professor Chaos, himself.
[13:59] <robert1971> No it's muggins
[13:59] <robert1971> me!
[14:00] <robert1971> Going up again this eveing with some camera s/w mods and gps beacon
[14:00] <fuzzylugnuts> cool
[14:00] <robert1971> Thought about attaching 1 year old or cat but wife declined :)
[14:00] <fuzzylugnuts> haha
[14:01] <fuzzylugnuts> she's just jealous
[14:12] <fuzzylugnuts> ewww. this cereal tastes like black licorice
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[14:46] <Xenion> hello folks :-)
[14:46] <fuzzylugnuts> Heya
[14:46] <Xenion> how's it flying .. i mean going ?
[14:48] <fuzzylugnuts> Good, yourself?
[14:49] <Xenion> good to, just soldering stuff a bit :-)
[14:50] <Xenion> and looking for a cheap helium provider :-)
[14:50] <fuzzylugnuts> good luck
[14:50] <fuzzylugnuts> us/uk/other?
[14:50] <Xenion> but i've heard helium is quiet expensive these days :/
[14:50] <Xenion> ger
[14:50] <fuzzylugnuts> ah, neat
[14:51] <fuzzylugnuts> what are you planning to do?
[14:51] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, just as the topic states ;)
[14:51] <Xenion> high altitude stuff .. buildung a balloon
[14:51] <Xenion> 5m³ volume
[14:51] <Xenion> payload approx 1.2
[14:52] <Xenion> start date november
[14:52] <fuzzylugnuts> like, putting it together from plastic film or something?
[14:53] <Xenion> nope sorry i don't meant it literally :-)
[14:53] <fuzzylugnuts> ah ok
[14:53] <Xenion> i'm buying a balloon
[14:53] <fuzzylugnuts> some of the folks here do that, so I was just wondering.
[14:53] <Xenion> but im construction a special payload
[14:53] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah?
[14:54] <fuzzylugnuts> do tell! : )
[14:54] <Xenion> i wan't to do start a rocket from beneath the balloon, the purpose is to test a real long range communication system
[14:55] <fuzzylugnuts> oh, a "rockoon" ?
[14:55] <fuzzylugnuts> whats the restrictions like for sending up a rocket and balloon?
[14:56] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, it's quiet cheaper to launch a rocket from 38km height than from 0km
[14:57] <Xenion> you have much less air resistance ( hope that's the right englisch term )
[14:57] <fuzzylugnuts> I meant like, governmental restrictions.. and yeah, thats the right word : )
[14:57] <Xenion> hehe
[14:57] <Xenion> i see
[14:57] <Xenion> yeah but .. germany is quiet "cool" in this regard
[14:58] <fuzzylugnuts> oh cool
[14:58] <Xenion> i spoked to the local agencies about that
[14:58] <fuzzylugnuts> good : )
[14:58] <Xenion> they told me all the legal stuff i had to deal with
[14:58] <Xenion> in legal terms launching a rocket or a balloon is nearly no difference
[14:58] <Xenion> but launching a rocket from the earth is way more complex ( you need much more fuel and so on .. )
[14:59] <fuzzylugnuts> right, right
[14:59] <fuzzylugnuts> ÿÿso whats the communications end of things? lets hear about what you want to accomplish : )
[15:00] <Xenion> i want to test different ways to communicate up to 30 / 60 / 90km height ( 30km are realistic but 60 and 90 .. i think the rocket will never get that high :-( )
[15:01] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, it's a combination of an HGA based system using already an already existing long range 900mhz comm system the so called MaxStream XTend ( a lot of HALO Projects use it )
[15:01] <Xenion> in the end i would like to have a system which could communicate with low earth orbit ( > 100km )
[15:02] <fuzzylugnuts> oh yeah, I almost bought the xtend.. went with something from sparkfun instead though.
[15:02] <fuzzylugnuts> Xenion: comminicate with what at low earth orbit?
[15:02] <fuzzylugnuts> *communicate
[15:02] <Xenion> nothing in particular
[15:02] <Xenion> :-)
[15:03] <fuzzylugnuts> ah
[15:03] <fuzzylugnuts> so what is your payload?
[15:03] <Xenion> right now it's based on a so called foxboard with 4 LiPo battery and a xtend module
[15:04] <Xenion> and some sensors
[15:04] <Xenion> for temperature, pA, HM55B and so on
[15:04] <Xenion> the usual stuff
[15:04] <fuzzylugnuts> cool.
[15:04] <fuzzylugnuts> foxboard?
[15:04] <Xenion> jeah
[15:04] <fuzzylugnuts> did you make that or is it a commercial product?
[15:04] <Xenion> acmesystems.it ( it's not the best but i got 2 for free so why don't use it )
[15:05] <fuzzylugnuts> cool
[15:05] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, no im developing the software for these kind of devices ( the device drivers for the sensors )
[15:05] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, for my next launches i'll use the beagleboard ( beagleboard.org )
[15:05] <fuzzylugnuts> ahh, a little single board computer
[15:06] <Xenion> but the point is .. the 2 foxboards are working with the xtend like a charm ( i used them for nearly 2 years for sensors and robotic tests )
[15:06] <fuzzylugnuts> Cool
[15:07] <Xenion> the beagleboard is really cool but i only have it for about 1 month so im using the already working FB
[15:07] <Xenion> :-)
[15:07] <Xenion> fuzzylugnuts, if you would like to have an advice .. i would recommend the beagleboard
[15:07] <Xenion> it has many cool features
[15:07] <fuzzylugnuts> Looks like it
[15:07] <Xenion> like the concept of power domains
[15:07] <fuzzylugnuts> I use gumsticks for that kind of payload
[15:08] <Xenion> u can scale down the power usage to a normal 1.5V battery
[15:08] <fuzzylugnuts> hey, thats cool
[15:08] <Xenion> what's a gumstick ?
[15:08] <fuzzylugnuts> http://gumstix.com/
[15:08] <fuzzylugnuts> er
[15:08] <fuzzylugnuts> http://gumstix.com/platforms.html
[15:09] <Xenion> i see
[15:09] <Xenion> funny
[15:09] <Xenion> but the big advantage of systems like the foxboard or beagelboard is that they use linux nativly !
[15:09] <Xenion> it's 100% pure linux
[15:09] <Xenion> no special release
[15:09] <fuzzylugnuts> ahh ok
[15:09] <Xenion> no crap like uLinux
[15:10] <Xenion> just linux + busybox
[15:10] <fuzzylugnuts> the gumstix uses OE and buildroot
[15:10] <Xenion> so
[15:10] <Xenion> everything you develop you could use at your normal desktop
[15:10] <Xenion> for example i can use all my programs and devices drivers written for the foxboard on the beagleboard
[15:10] <Xenion> :-)
[15:10] <Xenion> that's great
[15:10] <fuzzylugnuts> Yeah
[15:10] <Xenion> and developing the stuff on a normal pc using GCC :D
[15:11] <fuzzylugnuts> you can do that with OE and buildroot too, for the gumstix
[15:11] <Xenion> yes but this OE and buildroot convert your programm or code to fit especially for the gumstix platform
[15:12] <Xenion> i like the idea to have everything like a normal desktop
[15:12] <Xenion> it's more like opensource
[15:12] <fuzzylugnuts> yeah, I see what you mean. its just a matter of cross-compiling
[15:14] <fuzzylugnuts> how are you going to track the balloon?
[15:15] <Xenion> that's an open point .. i would like to use a gps reciever which transmits me the coordinates ( and use a gsm module as a backup if my commsystem fails )
[15:16] <soneil> I was looking at the beagleboard .. I haven't found anything about consumption tho (eg, how long will a battery last it)
[15:16] <fuzzylugnuts> Xenion: sounds good
[15:17] <Xenion> soneil, TI do really have a great deal of documents about the OMAP platform
[15:18] <Xenion> soneil, i've spent 3 days at a workshop where TI presented the beagleaboard / OMAP 3xxx platform
[15:19] <Xenion> soneil, i already played with the power domains
[15:19] <Xenion> it's quite cool
[15:19] <Xenion> u can select special GPIO lines and cut the power
[15:19] <Xenion> or you can put the system from power domain 7 to 1 ( the lowest ) online without problems
[15:20] <Xenion> in powerdomain 1 it has approx 90 - 100mhz
[15:20] <Xenion> one big advantage is the price .. 149$ bucks is really cheap compared to what you get
[15:22] <Xenion> just a hint soneil #beagle ( the official channel ) just talk to "jkridner" he works for ti and knows a great deal about the power management of the BB
[15:22] <Xenion> <- brb
[15:24] <soneil> fair enough. all I can find on their .org is that it should run in under 500mA
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[15:42] <robert1971> Teathered launch in 40 mins
[15:43] <fuzzylugnuts> win!
[15:44] <SpikeUK> Cheers robert1971! Good luck and fair winds!
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[15:44] <Xenion> robert1971, do you have a website for the launch ?
[15:45] <Xenion> good luck btw :-)
[15:46] <robert1971> teathred lunch in 35mins www.robertharrison.org/tracker cam in 15 mins
[15:48] <Xenion> great thanks
[15:48] <edmoore> hi everyone
[15:48] <fuzzylugnuts> Hey Ed
[15:48] <SpikeUK> Hi edmoore! How's things?
[15:50] <robert1971> evening edmoore some pics vid from this morning on www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus
[15:50] <robert1971> bit busy atm
[15:51] <edmoore> ok, will digest rather than disturb
[15:53] <robert1971> Got beacon working and send gga and rmc sentances
[15:53] <robert1971> will parse better later
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[16:01] <robert1971> Ok all hope to have live feed in 4 mins on www.robertharrison.org/tracker Tracker is thanks to natrium42
[16:06] <robert1971> Waiting for ms drivers to finish installing
[16:20] <edmoore> i'm going to stick doze under virtualbox on my server
[16:21] <edmoore> might use it as the main machine to run all the embedded stuff
[16:29] <robert1971> should be broadcast now
[16:39] <edmoore> it's off-air for me
[16:41] <edmoore> whoops, just my end. working
[16:44] <robert1971> nearly there now
[16:46] <robert1971> Launch 17:00 bst
[16:46] <robert1971> Launch 16:00 UTC
[16:46] <edmoore> oooooooh
[16:46] <edmoore> so i have missed all this - what is the plan?
[16:46] <edmoore> chasing after the beacon?
[16:53] <fuzzylugnuts> is that like chasing the dragon?
[16:58] <fuzzylugnuts> like... http://www.gamegum.com/game/1857/heroin-hero/
[17:15] <robert1971> any one want to try to get this on 434.650
[17:17] <edmoore> regrettably all the kit is in cambridge and I'm in chichester
[17:17] <edmoore> but i would if I was there!
[17:17] <edmoore> robert1971: what's 'current' on the tracker?
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[17:44] <jiffe88> I've been thinking of putting linux or bsd on my laptop, anyone know a good tnc for either of those?
[17:48] <ShellEvil> tnc?
[17:49] <edmoore> terminal node controller i guess
[17:50] <edmoore> in radio-ey contextxs anyway
[17:50] <ShellEvil> dunno
[17:50] <fuzzylugnuts> jiffe88: soundmodem
[17:55] <jiffe88> sweet, that looks like it'll work
[17:55] <fuzzylugnuts> I edited it to log packets to a file
[17:59] <jiffe88> hmm, this is an x11 prog?
[18:01] <jiffe88> might need to wait on this install
[18:01] <fuzzylugnuts> its a command line
[18:03] <fuzzylugnuts> http://coyotefirecracker.selfip.com/soundmodem-0.10-logfile.tar.gz
[18:08] <jiffe88> cool
[18:08] <jiffe88> what does it link to gtk for? do you know?
[18:08] <fuzzylugnuts> I have no idea
[18:11] <robert1971> Hate to do this guys. Some great pics and video the best bit was attaching baby jack to the balloon. You going to have to wait till later for the pics as I have prommised supper for the family at local pub
[18:11] <robert1971> Chat later
[18:12] <robert1971> The Baby bit was the funnest. YBF 250 quid
[18:28] <jiffe88> is soundmodem-0.10-logfile/soundcard/kisspkt.c the only file you modified?
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[18:30] <fuzzylugnuts> I think so.
[18:31] <gordonjcp> incidentally I spent a shitload on kit yesterday ;-)
[18:32] <jiffe88> cool, compiled fine
[18:32] <jiffe88> bsd port must be modified
[18:32] <gordonjcp> nice old Trio TR-7730 for being loud on 2m in the car, and a Kenwood TH-F7
[18:32] <fuzzylugnuts> jiffe88: I don't code very often so I'm sure you can make it shine alot better
[18:32] <jiffe88> thats cool
[18:33] <fuzzylugnuts> gordonjcp: sweet!
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[18:37] <jiffe88> need to put a soundcard in that guy
[18:38] <fuzzylugnuts> woooo, I get 4@0.5V amps off my payload's solar panel
[18:38] <fuzzylugnuts> er, 4 amps
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[18:53] <edmoore> hi jcoxon
[18:53] <jcoxon> Hey ed
[18:54] <jcoxon> Just on the train back from my radio course
[18:55] <jcoxon> Hows things?
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[18:57] <gordonjcp> radio course?
[18:57] <jcoxon> Foundation course, its spread over two sundays
[18:58] <jiffe88> ah
[18:58] <jiffe88> apparently gtk is linked to soundmodemconfig which is a gui config app
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[18:58] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: ah, ok
[18:58] <fuzzylugnuts> OOoh yeah
[18:58] <fuzzylugnuts> I forgot about taht
[18:58] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: how's it going?
[18:58] <jiffe88> I don't know why you would have a gui config util for a command line app
[18:58] <jcoxon> Sound modem. Urgh
[18:59] <fuzzylugnuts> its pretty cool
[18:59] <jiffe88> I don't have X on that machine :\
[18:59] <jcoxon> It makes it a lot easier to configure
[18:59] <jcoxon> What platform are you compiling for?
[19:00] <jiffe88> freebsd
[19:00] <edmoore> jcoxon: sorry went away. tell me about the course!
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[19:00] <jcoxon> gordonjcp. Yeah it was good
[19:01] <jcoxon> Made my first Qso
[19:01] <fuzzylugnuts> cool
[19:01] <fuzzylugnuts> good for you
[19:01] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: good good
[19:01] <jcoxon> Hehe
[19:01] <fuzzylugnuts> you are on the way to coming over to the daaark siiiiiiiide
[19:02] <jcoxon> Hmmm i'm still resisting
[19:02] <gordonjcp> heh
[19:02] <fuzzylugnuts> soon all your money will dissapear, and be replaced by ham gear
[19:02] <gordonjcp> well I'm now active on 70MHz, 144MHz and 432MHz...
[19:03] <gordonjcp> and once I get my 2m yagi built, hopefully active on amsat
[19:03] <jcoxon> they are amusingly blase about power
[19:03] <jcoxon> Very cool
[19:03] <jcoxon> I think i might stick to 2 metre if i ever get involved
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[19:05] <fuzzylugnuts> 70mhz?
[19:05] <jcoxon> Hmmm, need to finish this beacon off
[19:05] <gordonjcp> fuzzylugnuts: yeah
[19:05] <fuzzylugnuts> UK specific band?
[19:06] <jcoxon> I've been rather re inspired by morse, having to do it today
[19:06] <gordonjcp> oh, yeah, you're not in the UK
[19:06] <gordonjcp> jcoxon: morse rocks
[19:06] <gordonjcp> I'm quite keen to get active on HF with morse
[19:07] <fuzzylugnuts> groovy
[19:07] <fuzzylugnuts> I wish i knew code.
[19:07] <jcoxon> On hf today we made contact with russia with psk31
[19:07] <fuzzylugnuts> nice
[19:08] <jcoxon> It was a good day, i'm not a total convert, still happy playing with 10mW modules
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[19:13] <jcoxon> Bbl
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[21:51] <robert1971> Evening all
[21:51] <robert1971> had a great teathered launch today
[21:51] <robert1971> Perfect weather up here
[21:53] <gordonjcp> cool
[21:53] <gordonjcp> where's "up here"?
[21:57] <robert1971> Wakefield
[21:57] <robert1971> Just putting a couple of pics up
[21:58] <robert1971> I attached the 1 year old to the balloon afterwards and we did some flying lesson's I'm sure there is a You've been framed moment there
[21:59] <robert1971> Got the balloon up to 300m or 297m according to the gps
[21:59] <robert1971> Started at 174 though
[22:00] <robert1971> Few pics coming in on http://www.robertharrison.org/images/icarus/20080921pm/
[22:01] <jcoxon> hey ro
[22:01] <jcoxon> robert1971,
[22:01] <jcoxon> did so all went well
[22:01] <robert1971> Evening sir
[22:01] <robert1971> Very well. Couldn't have been a better w/e for a first launch
[22:01] <robert1971> So still
[22:01] <jcoxon> cool
[22:01] <jcoxon> so got the radio transmitting?
[22:02] <robert1971> Yep funny though the feq. shifted alot on the way up
[22:02] <gordonjcp> I picked up some little 433-odd MHz wireless thermometers with broken LCDs on the receivers
[22:02] <jcoxon> hmmmm, thats a but unusual
[22:02] <jcoxon> it does drift but at a much higher altitude
[22:03] <robert1971> Might be my dodgy GP antenna though the singal holds for miles horizontally
[22:03] <robert1971> Like satelite alt
[22:03] <robert1971> When I say load on the round 434.650.0 -> 435.650.79
[22:04] <jcoxon> nah thats not much
[22:04] <robert1971> Enoght to make the diff beween gobaldygook and a nice dcode
[22:04] <robert1971> decode
[22:05] <jcoxon> morse?
[22:05] <robert1971> Yep
[22:05] <robert1971> rtty I know
[22:05] <jcoxon> well
[22:05] <jcoxon> bbiab
[22:16] <jcoxon> bacl
[22:16] <jcoxon> back*
[22:17] <jcoxon> robert1971, i wouldn't worry about the drift - we can always retune the radio
[22:17] <robert1971> Yep
[22:17] <robert1971> I just the first time
[22:17] <robert1971> I'm used to it just working on the set freq. Set and forget
[22:17] <robert1971> I guess it's not quite that easy :)
[22:17] <jcoxon> indeed
[22:18] <jcoxon> hence why we lose it when i fall asleep :-)
[22:18] <robert1971> Did you get a change to look at a couple of those pics
[22:18] <jcoxon> yup
[22:18] <robert1971> chance
[22:18] <jcoxon> some slight distortion, i noticed
[22:19] <robert1971> I liked the 5370 one following the string
[22:19] <robert1971> I think thats to do with the crap camera
[22:19] <jcoxon> what camera?
[22:19] <robert1971> Ixus 400
[22:20] <robert1971> It's about 5 years ols
[22:20] <robert1971> Have the wifes a560 which is going up
[22:20] <robert1971> But that is going in the box for side shots
[22:21] <jcoxon> so all set for 4th?
[22:21] <robert1971> Yep beacon will be sending tracker code and I may have the logger working by then too
[22:21] <robert1971> logomatic 2 from spark fun
[22:22] <jcoxon> what are you going to use to decrypt the radio?
[22:22] <robert1971> Laptop with Cwget
[22:22] <jcoxon> okay
[22:23] <robert1971> Will have pleanty of power in the car if you want to plug stuff in
[22:23] <jcoxon> then that is auto uploaded to the tracker
[22:23] <jcoxon> ?
[22:23] <robert1971> Yep
[22:24] <robert1971> Via 3g usb key
[22:24] <jcoxon> just out of interest how are you getting the data off cwget?
[22:24] <robert1971> Ah well
[22:24] <robert1971> auto ish
[22:24] <jcoxon> as i've got some code that could grabi t
[22:24] <robert1971> I'm thinking about writing to a logfile and reading it as it goes
[22:25] <robert1971> Ooh sir nave you now
[22:25] <jcoxon> thats how i do my autologging with truetty
[22:25] <robert1971> Is it in rubycocoa?
[22:25] <robert1971> :-)
[22:25] <jcoxon> no, its windows code
[22:26] <jcoxon> it access teh rx buffer of truetty (cwget as well probably) and dumps it directly to file
[22:26] <robert1971> Ahhhh, Never mind.. No seariously I would appreciate that
[22:26] <jcoxon> the normal logging is a little bit slow
[22:26] <jcoxon> takes about 3 months
[22:26] <robert1971> 3 mins?
[22:27] <jcoxon> yeah thats what i meant
[22:27] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:27] <jcoxon> though it seems like 3 months
[22:27] <robert1971> I was going to say that is slow
[22:27] <jcoxon> akawaka wrote the code for me
[22:27] <jcoxon> one seci 'll email it to you
[22:28] <robert1971> I'm going to have to go actually as wife wants some company and the launch has taken over the w/e
[22:28] <jcoxon> np
[22:28] <robert1971> Will have more time tomorrow. Looking forard to the 4th.
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[23:27] <Laurenceb_> hello
[23:49] <jnd> hell
[23:49] <jnd> o
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