highaltitude.log.20080531

[00:00] <akawaka> and i wrote a fuse filesystem for it so you would get a directory with 10 files for digital io and 10 files for analog io and you could just read and write to them
[00:00] <akawaka> was less than 200 lines of code
[00:00] <akawaka> its really really simple
[00:00] <fuzzylugnut> that is awesome
[00:01] <fuzzylugnut> and it handles passing arguments to the pgrogram of choice?
[00:02] <fuzzylugnut> I hope getty uses this OK.
[00:04] <akawaka> if you want getty to use it then you will probably have to implement some ioctl calls so getty can treat it like a serial device
[00:04] <akawaka> not sure
[00:04] <akawaka> but, not very complicated
[00:05] <fuzzylugnut> very groovy
[00:06] <akawaka> its one of these rare situations that you think something should be easy, but assume its actually really complicated but it turns out not to be!
[00:06] <fuzzylugnut> yay
[00:07] <fuzzylugnut> this is great. If I have a program that transmits OLIVIA from stdin and spits recieved data to stdout, this will work!
[00:08] <akawaka> what do you want to do exactly?
[00:10] <fuzzylugnut> I want to create a low bandwidth, error correcting, and highly noise/low signal strength tolerant bi-directional link between the balloon and me
[00:10] <akawaka> well, the serial port stuff specifically:)
[00:10] <akawaka> there might be a way to do what you want to do without writing anything
[00:11] <fuzzylugnut> I thought it would be nifty to use kermit and connect it to a sort of "olivia modem device"
[00:13] <fuzzylugnut> I could just cat the output of the olivia program to sh, and then get the output text to the olivia tx program somehow, but thats no fun
[00:14] <jcoxon> can't you just use pipes
[00:14] <fuzzylugnut> yeah, I mean pipe, not cat
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[00:18] <fuzzylugnut> it might be better to just have it all in a loop... listen, recieve command, pipe it to sh, direct output to a file, then send that output to the TX program.
[00:18] <fuzzylugnut> wow.
[00:18] <fuzzylugnut> never thought of it like that.
[00:19] <fuzzylugnut> thanks
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[00:21] <fuzzylugnut> FUSE still sounds cool though, for other stuff
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[00:27] <fuzzylugnut> so I guess the next step would be to make a way for the receive program to recognize that a command was entered
[00:27] <fuzzylugnut> er, received
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[00:31] <fuzzylugnut> eh, I guess having it look for a CR and leaving the squelch up enough so garbage won't fill up the command buffer
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[00:49] <Laurenceb> hi folks
[00:50] <akawaka> hello
[00:51] <Laurenceb> arrrggg revision :-(
[00:52] <Laurenceb> oh well I can escape in a couple of weeks :P
[00:53] <fuzzylugnut> Heya
[00:53] <Laurenceb> yo
[00:54] <Laurenceb> anyone know how big matlab is?
[00:55] <Laurenceb> I only have 700MB spare on here :-/
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[00:57] <fuzzylugnut> sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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[13:06] <jatkins> hi all
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[13:09] <Hiena> Good afternoon!
[13:12] <jatkins> how's your project coming along?
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[13:16] <Hiena> Which one?
[13:16] <Hiena> ;)
[13:16] <jatkins> lol
[13:16] <jatkins> the near space plane?
[13:17] <Hiena> Oh, it is on hold. At first i have to make something enough lifting capacity for the drop tests.
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[13:19] <Hiena> The good new, is my neighbour started a boat building business, so i'll have a chance to salvage some material.
[13:20] <Hiena> Also currently, i'm working on a videocard for a ucontroller boards.
[13:27] <jatkins> oh, cool
[13:27] <jatkins> for your computer?
[13:29] <Hiena> Something like that. Here will be a demoscene party at july, and i want to make a wild demo. I thought i'll slap together a dozen of ttl IC with 15nS srams and an atnega32 for fun.
[13:31] <Hiena> The video board will be a double buffered 320x200 VGA board, with a 12 line interface.
[13:32] <jatkins> cool
[13:32] <jatkins> I don't no much about video cards, but it sounds like a really interesting project
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[13:54] <jatkins> edmoore: you about?
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[16:50] <jcoxon> afternoon all
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[18:09] <rcaron> yeah, this flight's bringing up Japan's lab
[18:10] <jcoxon> they've been quite quiet about it, lots about phoenix
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[18:17] <rcaron> i follow this stuff so closely that none of it is quiet
[18:17] <jcoxon> hehe
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[21:02] <edmoore> hi jcoxon
[21:02] <edmoore> t- 1h
[21:02] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[21:02] <jcoxon> indeed
[21:02] <jcoxon> so 10.02 launch then
[21:02] <edmoore> gonna be a nice break from tripos papers
[21:03] <akawaka> yo
[21:03] <edmoore> but should probs carry on with them now
[21:06] <Hiena> Bleh...I'm done...
[21:06] <jcoxon> i'm actualy going to the pub
[21:06] <Hiena> Totally 39 IC, 4 memory, 8 counter, 3 transistor, and 1 HDSUB15 pin.
[21:06] <jcoxon> will miss the launch :-(
[21:06] <edmoore> i would so love to pub
[21:07] <edmoore> Hiena: high on fumes?
[21:07] <jcoxon> may week
[21:07] <jcoxon> mayweek
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[21:08] <edmoore> yes i know
[21:08] <edmoore> lots of pubbing then
[21:08] <edmoore> but...
[21:08] <jcoxon> oh indeed
[21:08] <edmoore> it's too far away
[21:09] <edmoore> and i have 8 exams between
[21:09] <jcoxon> pah
[21:09] <jcoxon> thats an easy 2nd year
[21:09] <jcoxon> think about the poor medics
[21:09] <Hiena> edmoore, not yet. Just finished the schematic of the videocard.
[21:10] <edmoore> awesome :)
[21:10] <edmoore> jcoxon: yeah they do have a crap time
[21:10] <edmoore> serves them right
[21:10] <jcoxon> i remember
[21:11] <edmoore> a subject without maths is not a subject
[21:11] <edmoore> sayeth the wise man
[21:11] <jcoxon> oh there is maths
[21:11] <jcoxon> lots of statistics
[21:11] <edmoore> infact in the early days you had to take maths regardless of your degree
[21:11] <jcoxon> but yeah
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[21:14] <edmoore> 2hrs 15 mins
[21:14] <edmoore> sigh
[21:14] <edmoore> gotta get this down to 2 hrs
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[21:34] <jcoxon> cya guys
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[23:11] <fuzzylugnut> http://cgi.ebay.com/MaxStream-900-MHz-Spread-Spectrum-One-Watt-Radio-Modem_W0QQitemZ280230838401QQihZ018QQcategoryZ46539QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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[23:12] <fuzzylugnut> I think that uses a zigbee
[23:15] <fuzzylugnut> natrium42: didn't you use one of those?
[23:21] <natrium42> yeah i did
[23:21] <natrium42> but it's not zigbee
[23:22] <fuzzylugnut> ah ok
[23:22] <fuzzylugnut> did it work ok?
[23:26] <natrium42> yes, just need a directional antenna on the ground
[23:26] <fuzzylugnut> cool
[23:26] <fuzzylugnut> I think I'll nab them instead of trying to make a bidirectional amp for that radiometrix one
[23:28] <fuzzylugnut> pretty easy to use?
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[23:32] <fuzzylugnut> natrium42: it looks like yours is plugged into something
[23:32] <natrium42> yah, very easy to use
[23:33] <natrium42> it's just plugged into the gumstix
[23:33] <fuzzylugnut> oh, I mean, the module is plugged into some board
[23:36] <fuzzylugnut> is that just level converting stuff?
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[23:36] <fuzzylugnut> http://www.flickr.com/photos/54644437@N00/1796152745/
[23:36] <fuzzylugnut> I was looking at that pic
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