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[00:51] <Laurenceb> fergusnoble: do you cover any nmr on your course?
[00:52] <Laurenceb> its not covered at all here until suddenly your supposed to understand it now.... so confusing
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[15:28] <edmoore> hi fergusnoble
[15:29] <fergusnoble> hello
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[15:30] <edmoore> so I guess the simple thing to do is bring everything
[15:30] <edmoore> however I must just ask - what does your morning look like tomorrow?
[15:31] <fergusnoble> sleepy
[15:31] <fergusnoble> will be tired from making the badger board the night before
[15:31] <fergusnoble> :)
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[15:32] <edmoore> well I can't really go on much after 9.30 this eve
[15:32] <edmoore> but i don't mind starting at 6am tomorrow
[15:32] <fergusnoble> if you are really busy we could just do it on sunday or something
[15:32] <edmoore> and working through till midday
[15:32] <fergusnoble> hmm, c'est possible
[15:32] <edmoore> with a 1h break for a lecture
[15:33] <edmoore> i only have 1 morning lecture tomorrow, y'see
[15:33] <edmoore> what sort of state of portability is your stuff?
[15:33] <fergusnoble> in a cardboard box
[15:33] <edmoore> all my stuff is in one box atm which makes it fairly portable if me to you is easier
[15:36] <fergusnoble> this might be a good idea
[15:36] <fergusnoble> and forget doing anything tonight at all?
[15:38] <edmoore> potentially. basically, afternoons and evening are when we as engineers tend to get together in the study room and collectively revise stuff
[15:38] <edmoore> and they're really useful sessions
[15:38] <edmoore> the bulk of the year's learning happens in these two weeks in the afternoons
[15:42] <fergusnoble> ok, well, shall we try and do tomorrow morning then?
[15:43] <edmoore> that suits me. what time is your earliest-stage-at-which-being-human-is-possible?
[15:43] <edmoore> cos i mean it's probably worth either going from 6 or after my 9am lecture
[15:43] <fergusnoble> erm, its usually midday before things really get going
[15:43] <edmoore> either way i don't mind going through till 4/5pm
[15:44] <fergusnoble> but we could try for 6
[15:44] <edmoore> ok... so save the higher brain functions - what about soldering?
[15:44] <edmoore> 10.15am ok?
[15:44] <fergusnoble> no, should try to get up early anyway
[15:44] <fergusnoble> go for 6 as planned and i will go to bed early tonight
[15:45] <edmoore> ok awesome
[15:45] <edmoore> i will probably hit tescos for some croissants then
[15:45] <fergusnoble> sounds good
[15:46] <fergusnoble> bring coffee equipment too then
[15:46] <edmoore> do you have a kettle?
[15:46] <fergusnoble> yeah
[15:46] <edmoore> will grind some fresh beans and bring press
[15:47] <edmoore> I also need to get some red bull
[15:47] <edmoore> have become addicted
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[15:48] <Laurenceb> red bull is a rip off
[15:48] <fergusnoble> red bull isnt conducive to soldering 0.5mm pitch connectors
[15:48] <Laurenceb> but it gives you wings to....
[15:48] <edmoore> hi Laurence
[15:48] <Laurenceb> hello
[15:48] <edmoore> fergusnoble: we can try the dragg soldering thing
[15:48] <edmoore> i have a flug pen now
[15:48] <Laurenceb> I was looking at that
[15:49] <fergusnoble> cool
[15:49] <Laurenceb> theres some good tutorials on youtube
[15:49] <Laurenceb> looks better than the wick technique I've used before
[15:49] <edmoore> we now have a bunch of atmega168s too, which will be perfect for bodger
[15:49] <fergusnoble> i have some solder wick somewhere too
[15:49] <edmoore> when we get round to it...
[15:51] <Laurenceb> talking of red bull giving you wings... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4858664474879256299
[15:52] <edmoore> oh very good...
[15:53] <Laurenceb> flies quite well too :D
[15:55] <Laurenceb> just need to add guidance and its an automated delivery system
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[16:01] <Laurenceb> cya folks
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[17:36] <jcoxon> evening all
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[17:43] <jcoxon> hey edmoore
[17:43] <edmoore> yo
[17:43] <edmoore> where are you now?
[17:43] <jcoxon> i'm back in my accomadation
[17:44] <jcoxon> beginning to be come less library crazy
[17:45] <edmoore> lol
[17:45] <edmoore> good
[17:45] <edmoore> i am sooo hungry
[17:45] <edmoore> fergusnoble: are you there?
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[19:59] <Cooleo> Hey all.
[20:00] <natrium42> hi
[20:00] <edmoore> hi
[20:00] <Laurenceb> hello
[20:00] <natrium42> 'ello
[20:00] <edmoore> yo
[20:01] <Laurenceb> wazzupppp
[20:01] <natrium42> in da hood?
[20:01] <edmoore> aaaaaaiiight
[20:02] <natrium42> INIT_COMPLETED()
[20:02] <natrium42> STARTING_CONVERSATION()
[20:02] <Cooleo> Im becoming a millionaire soon :D
[20:03] <Cooleo> in Zimbawe :P
[20:03] <natrium42> ...
[20:03] <furan> heh.
[20:03] <Cooleo> $2 USD = $500
[20:03] <Cooleo> *$500 Million
[20:03] <furan> natrium exit details @ http://www.hackerbotlabs.com/
[20:03] <edmoore> come again?
[20:03] <natrium42> Cooleo, it's only $4k
[20:04] <edmoore> furan, how is your project going?
[20:04] <Cooleo> Oh damint >.<
[20:04] <natrium42> furan, coolz
[20:04] <Laurenceb> nice
[20:05] <edmoore> "Woke up with a start at 6 am. Up and out of the bed, eat breakfast, pack up, and head back out to base camp."
[20:05] <edmoore> this is why I love ballooning
[20:05] <furan> heh
[20:05] <edmoore> it's the bits either side of the flight
[20:05] <furan> I got negative sleep
[20:05] <furan> it was fun though
[20:05] <edmoore> during the flight we just had brunch and waited for contact
[20:06] <edmoore> furan - which one are you in the pic?
[20:06] <furan> black hat, grey hoodie
[20:07] <Laurenceb> furan: I'm interested in the glider
[20:07] <edmoore> in the standard 'if the balloon pops now, i got the payload' pose
[20:07] <furan> that's all jonm's work
[20:07] <furan> yes
[20:07] <Laurenceb> I see
[20:07] <furan> haha
[20:07] <Laurenceb> is it using an IMU do you know?
[20:08] <furan> yes
[20:08] <Laurenceb> i.e. you have enough sensors, are you doing the full kalman filtered IMU approach?
[20:08] <furan> last I knew it was an aprs radio tied to a garmin gps
[20:09] <Laurenceb> hmm I'd be very interested in any more info/code
[20:09] <edmoore> you whore :p
[20:09] <Laurenceb> well theres a few pics on the site
[20:09] <Laurenceb> who me?
[20:09] <edmoore> yeah you!
[20:09] <Laurenceb> I know I know
[20:10] <Laurenceb> if I was female I'd be swapping pics for code :D
[20:10] <edmoore> gaaaah we really need a lab
[20:11] <Laurenceb> hmmm I need more free time to work on something really cool
[20:11] <edmoore> a galeleo receiver for 3 years?
[20:11] <edmoore> that was an 'impressionistic' spelling
[20:12] <Laurenceb> I was thinking.... maybe red bull would sponsor an automated version of that rogallo :D
[20:12] <natrium42> redbull flugtag? :D
[20:12] <edmoore> I wonder if you could power a turbine with it
[20:12] <edmoore> it's probably flammable
[20:13] <Laurenceb> natrium42: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4858664474879256299 <- that
[20:14] <natrium42> XD
[20:14] <natrium42> nice
[20:14] <natrium42> sponsors always want to put a logo onto the balloon itself
[20:14] <natrium42> and you tell them that it's not possible
[20:16] <Cooleo> Yep. Im now a millionaire :)
[20:16] <Cooleo> $25 Million
[20:16] <Cooleo> £7.50
[20:17] <Laurenceb> lol prices will be in megadollars
[20:17] <Cooleo> :P
[20:17] <Cooleo> Not the point, I can now say I am a millionare:D
[20:17] <Cooleo> It must be like $10 Million for a loaf of bread
[20:18] <edmoore> that is about right
[20:18] <edmoore> it's probably doubled in the last hour
[20:18] <Cooleo> :P
[20:19] Action: Laurenceb yawns at sight of yet more nonlinear optics to revise
[20:22] Action: edmoore goes crosseyes at the thought of nonlinear optics
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[20:22] <edmoore> that's quite sweet though that optics is still a subject
[20:22] <edmoore> it was fashionable in about 1602
[20:22] <Laurenceb> oi
[20:23] <Laurenceb> there is more than enough to make optics a subject
[20:23] <Laurenceb> unfortunately
[20:24] <Laurenceb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birefringence#Electromagnetic_waves_in_an_anisotropic_material <- basically its all about that
[20:25] <edmoore> that all looks remarkably familiar
[20:25] <edmoore> to pattern matching
[20:25] <edmoore> there's a beutiful elegance to that
[20:26] <Laurenceb> pattern matching... what sort of technique?
[20:26] <edmoore> well in this case just generic finding optimal gaussians
[20:26] <Laurenceb> ah
[20:26] <edmoore> by hunting for local maxima
[20:26] <edmoore> not exactly cuttinf edge
[20:27] <Laurenceb> cant you do that fairly easily with fourier transforms?
[20:27] <edmoore> no...? yes...?
[20:27] <edmoore> dunno of the top of my head
[20:27] <edmoore> just heading for a quick drink
[20:27] <Laurenceb> ok
[20:27] <edmoore> if you find a cool link tell me
[20:27] <edmoore> i guess you could do it in freq space
[20:27] <edmoore> will have a think over an oj
[20:27] <edmoore> bbiab
[20:27] <Laurenceb> using deconvolutiin
[20:27] <Laurenceb> nvm
[20:28] <Laurenceb> cya
[20:30] <Cooleo> HAHAH! I just found out the coolest thing ever, Popped to ASDA picked up a can of 49P Hair Mousse, Ran it out by making a huge pattern of circles on my patio and set fire to it :D. Its freaking cool! And the heat it produces.
[20:30] <Laurenceb> you pyro freak you
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[20:33] <Cooleo> Haha
[20:33] <Cooleo> The thing is freaking awesome to do :)
[20:33] <Cooleo> Ill do it when it gets dark and video it
[20:37] <Cooleo> Hmm, That might be handy for my rocket
[20:42] <Laurenceb> Don't Chemtrail Me Bro
[20:43] <furan> heh
[20:44] <Cooleo> :P
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[20:48] <Laurenceb> hi RocketBoy
[20:50] <Laurenceb> bbl
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[21:10] <natrium42> looks like channel is growing slowly
[21:10] <Cooleo> yep
[21:10] <edmoore> we were flirting with 20 not so long ago
[21:10] <edmoore> maybe critical mass will be acheived
[21:11] <natrium42> and we will go supernova?
[21:11] <edmoore> something like that
[21:11] <Cooleo> :)
[21:16] <edmoore> so tesco sells this stuff called Kick
[21:16] <edmoore> it's like redbull but 1/5th the price
[21:16] <edmoore> I am addicted
[21:16] <Cooleo> haha, thats piss in a bottle
[21:16] <edmoore> high caffeine piss, importantly
[21:17] <Cooleo> lol
[21:21] <RocketBoy> red bull has got somthing else in it (cant remember what its called) but its a substance found in the gut of bulls
[21:21] <edmoore> taurine I think it's called, imaginitively
[21:21] <RocketBoy> yeah thats it
[21:24] <edmoore> christ, heart palpatations
[21:25] <RocketBoy> just read wikapedia?
[21:25] <edmoore> no, just felt them in my chest
[21:26] <Laurenceb> lol
[21:26] <Laurenceb> gut of bulls
[21:26] <Laurenceb> hahaha
[21:27] <edmoore> it's pretty potent stuff
[21:27] <edmoore> going to need some of it to get me up tomorrow
[21:28] <RocketBoy> if you can get to sleep tonight
[21:28] <edmoore> I'm going to gym in a minute.
[21:28] <edmoore> I've got into this revision groove
[21:29] <edmoore> crap out brain over 12 hours in the library in the day, then finish off body with an hour in the gym and night, then collapse into bed
[21:29] <edmoore> works quite well
[21:30] <edmoore> gym/squash
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[21:56] <Laurenceb> RocketBoy: have you done anything on those pcbs?
[22:04] <RocketBoy> na not yet - maybe this weekend
[22:06] <natrium42> is anybody launching this weekend?
[22:08] <natrium42> RocketBoy?
[22:09] <RocketBoy> the Wx is just about perfect - I may rush somthing together on saturday
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[22:35] <edmoore> RocketBoy: Iain's just ordered his J for next EARs
[22:39] <RocketBoy> woooo!
[22:39] <edmoore> it's the day before my exams
[22:39] <RocketBoy> (its a M the time after)
[22:39] <edmoore> but i think it is a necessary thing!
[22:39] <RocketBoy> yeah
[22:39] <edmoore> ha, the M is basically the martlet prototype
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[22:58] <edmoore> fergusnoble: still up?
[23:05] <akawaka> gonna try to build a radio this weekend
[23:06] <akawaka> last time i built a radio it was part of a 101 in 1 electronics kit, the ones with all the springs, bought at a car boot sale in birmingham
[23:06] <akawaka> along with a criket bat that broke two days later
[23:11] <natrium42> lol
[23:12] <edmoore> uk or alabama?
[23:12] <akawaka> uk
[23:12] <akawaka> not a lot of cricket bats in alabama i imagine:)
[23:13] <edmoore> well you never know!
[23:13] <akawaka> used to spend 3 weeks of every summer in Birmingham
[23:14] <fergusnoble> edmoore, here now, yes
[23:15] <edmoore> cool
[23:16] <edmoore> i will give you a call tomorrow at 5.50
[23:16] <edmoore> if you nswer, i will head out
[23:16] <edmoore> if not, I will wait until some time t later
[23:16] <edmoore> where t could potentially be after my first lecture
[23:17] <fergusnoble> ok, well i could just leave my door on the latch so you can come in
[23:17] <fergusnoble> nd force me to wake up
[23:17] <edmoore> that's a bit wierd
[23:17] <edmoore> on my scale of 0 to wierd
[23:17] <fergusnoble> yes, yes it is
[23:17] <fergusnoble> but it may be the only way
[23:18] <edmoore> is this mad? Would 10am to say 5pm not be a better sesh?
[23:18] <fergusnoble> i am fully able to disarm all my alarms whilst asleep
[23:18] <edmoore> and leave one awake enough to still enjoy peep show at 10.30?
[23:18] <fergusnoble> i have a practical 2-6pm
[23:18] <edmoore> would 10am - 2pm not be better?
[23:19] <edmoore> we can solder a board in 4 hours
[23:19] <edmoore> otherwise we're just crap
[23:19] <fergusnoble> perhaps, but not get it running any code
[23:19] <akawaka> fergus is setting up some kind of edmoore home invasion fantasy
[23:19] <edmoore> I'm not sure I like it
[23:19] <fergusnoble> heh, ok then
[23:19] <fergusnoble> phone at 5.50, ill try and wake up
[23:19] <akawaka> make sure you decide on a safety word
[23:19] <edmoore> also, my friend is doing a tesco trip tomorrrow b4 breakfast and getting me some philly
[23:20] <edmoore> so we can have bagels with smoked salmon and philly
[23:20] <edmoore> fresh coffee
[23:20] <edmoore> and soldering
[23:20] <edmoore> could there be a better morning?
[23:20] <edmoore> phone bbl
[23:20] <akawaka> hah
[23:21] <fergusnoble> if i were able to wake up for 6 would you want to start then?
[23:22] <fergusnoble> or is this bravado safe in the knowledge i will never take you up on it
[23:22] <fergusnoble> :)
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[23:49] <jcoxon> evening all
[23:49] <jcoxon> did anyone get my email today on the UKHAS list?
[23:50] <natrium42> there's a list?
[23:50] <jcoxon> yup!
[23:51] <jcoxon> i'll find a link
[23:51] <jcoxon> we should perhaps advertise it more
[23:51] <natrium42> :P
[23:51] <natrium42> any launches this weekend?
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[23:51] <jcoxon> don't think so
[23:51] <jcoxon> ihttp://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:mailing_list
[23:51] <jcoxon> sorry: http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:mailing_list
[23:52] <jcoxon> natrium42, i'm not launching, working on something but it ain't ready tet
[23:52] <jcoxon> yet*
[23:52] <natrium42> ah ok
[23:52] <natrium42> thanks for the link
[23:53] <jcoxon> i think the list must be down
[23:53] <jcoxon> grrr
[23:53] <Laurenceb> I got it
[23:54] <jcoxon> okay cool, just checking
[23:55] <natrium42> subscribed
[23:56] <jcoxon> seen the arduino nano?
[23:56] <jcoxon> pretty cool
[23:59] <Laurenceb> no
[23:59] <Laurenceb> :P
[23:59] <Laurenceb> its just a mega168 on a bit of board
[23:59] Action: Laurenceb ducks
[23:59] <jcoxon> bit its nice an intergrated and mini
[23:59] <jcoxon> but*
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