highaltitude.log.20080318

[00:00] <fuzzylugnut> what is that book that keeps showing up when I search this stuff... "Weather balloons make rotten sex toys"
[00:01] <akawaka> i guess you sure turn on google safe search
[00:02] <jcoxon> hmmmm i've missed loads of photos on that set
[00:02] <fuzzylugnut> mine is off, challenging to find porn otherwise.
[00:04] <fuzzylugnut> anyone else use hydrogen?
[00:06] <edmoore> thought aboot it
[00:06] <natrium42> fuzzylugnut, do you?
[00:06] <fuzzylugnut> yeah
[00:06] <edmoore> some are keener than others :)
[00:07] <fuzzylugnut> yeah, attention must be paid.
[00:08] <jcoxon> urgh i need a travel adapter
[00:08] <edmoore> departure lounge
[00:08] <jcoxon> its on the list
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[00:18] Action: jcoxon waits for flickr to process the 200 pictures he is about to upload
[00:19] <fuzzylugnut> hehe
[00:19] <jcoxon> there is a really cool sequence of the launch of a z-p balloon
[00:20] <fuzzylugnut> cool
[00:23] <edmoore> so simple. but fun. giving me ideas :)
[00:23] <edmoore> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMB2VR0087w&feature=related
[00:23] <edmoore> 3kg balloon full of that could cause a distraction and a half
[00:27] Action: jcoxon now waits for it to upload...
[00:31] <fuzzylugnut> haha! holy crap
[00:43] <fuzzylugnut> alright, time to go home. laters folks.
[00:43] <edmoore> cya
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[00:44] <jcoxon> woohoo
[00:45] <jcoxon> all uploaded
[00:45] <jcoxon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/sets/72157594446369581/
[00:47] <jcoxon> annoyingly they aren't in order
[00:48] <akawaka> what was the purpose of the launches?
[00:48] <jcoxon> it was part of AMMA - which was a multidiscpline team
[00:48] <jcoxon> looking at teh Western Africa Monsoon
[00:49] <jcoxon> a lot to do with why the have experienced famine
[00:50] <jcoxon> the team i was with were looking for trace halocarbons
[00:50] <akawaka> you guys probably shouldn't have used that fresh water lake to produce hydrogen...
[00:50] <jcoxon> hehe
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[00:51] <jcoxon> all helium - it was shipped from france - a slight logistical nightmare apparently
[00:52] <fuzzylugnut> jcoxon: have your pics up yet?
[00:52] <jcoxon> yup
[00:52] <jcoxon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcoxon77/sets/72157594446369581/
[00:53] <fuzzylugnut> wow. cool.
[00:53] <jcoxon> but they aren't in order
[00:54] <jcoxon> which slightly defeats the object
[00:54] <jcoxon> will take a some time to order them
[00:54] <jcoxon> and i'm not doing it tonight!
[00:54] <fuzzylugnut> : )
[00:54] <fuzzylugnut> so... did you launch this or what?
[00:54] <jcoxon> i was helping out
[00:54] <fuzzylugnut> haha, very nice.
[00:55] <jcoxon> while i was out there we did 5 big launches
[00:55] <jcoxon> about 5 small z-p launches
[00:55] <jcoxon> and lots of normal balloon launches
[00:55] <fuzzylugnut> Cool
[00:55] <fuzzylugnut> through what organization?
[00:55] <Laurenceb> jcoxon: where are you off to?
[00:56] <jcoxon> fuzzylugnut, it was AMMA - a collection of universities i think sponsered by the EU
[00:56] <fuzzylugnut> ahh ok
[00:56] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, I'm off to istanbul tomorrow
[00:56] <jcoxon> for a week
[00:56] <Laurenceb> cool, just for fun?
[00:56] <jcoxon> yeah
[00:57] <Laurenceb> nice, who are you travelling with?
[00:57] <jcoxon> just me
[00:57] <akawaka> ordered the garmin gps-18-lvc
[00:57] <jcoxon> need to get away
[00:57] <fuzzylugnut> akawaka: sweet.
[00:57] <Laurenceb> you travel by yourself? Hmm I'd be worried about getting robbed or something
[00:58] <jcoxon> Laurenceb, nah
[00:58] <jcoxon> it'll be fine
[00:58] <Laurenceb> be careful :P
[00:58] <edmoore> Istanbul isn't that bad Laurenceb.....
[00:58] <jcoxon> i've been to worse places
[00:58] <akawaka> hes only going to turkey, not manchester...
[00:59] <Laurenceb> I probably lead a sheltered life :P
[00:59] <edmoore> Last I went there it was full of people from surrey
[00:59] <Laurenceb> haha
[00:59] <jcoxon> I was in Tibet 6 months ago
[00:59] <jcoxon> its not so nice now
[00:59] <fuzzylugnut> nifty
[00:59] <Laurenceb> I remember
[00:59] <jcoxon> weird as i recognise alot of the places, but now there are bodies on the ground
[01:00] <edmoore> my sister was due to be in nigeria in janurary, but had to not go because of illness
[01:00] <edmoore> thank god for that
[01:00] <Laurenceb> I thought I'd had less spam than usual
[01:00] <jcoxon> I've been gone through Western Sahara - its civil war is just beginning to come to an end
[01:01] <jcoxon> I've been*
[01:01] <jcoxon> right enough travel chat (my travel chat is bad chat)
[01:01] <jcoxon> I'm off
[01:01] <jcoxon> night all
[01:01] <Laurenceb> cya
[01:01] <akawaka> night
[01:01] <fuzzylugnut> 'night
[01:01] <edmoore> good uck
[01:01] <jcoxon> I'll be contactable on email if anyone needs me
[01:01] <edmoore> see you in a week
[01:01] <Laurenceb> bye
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[01:03] <fuzzylugnut> I'd like to go to Europe sometime.
[01:03] <fuzzylugnut> you folks have some neat places.
[01:03] <fuzzylugnut> *loves old architecture*
[01:03] <edmoore> anywhere particular in mind?
[01:03] <edmoore> oooh, there's plenty of that :)
[01:03] <Laurenceb> most of my family live in the US
[01:03] <Laurenceb> but I've never been
[01:04] <fuzzylugnut> *nod*
[01:04] <edmoore> florence should really be on your list then
[01:04] <fuzzylugnut> Ok
[01:04] <akawaka> paris
[01:04] <akawaka> city is like a work of art
[01:04] <fuzzylugnut> cool : )
[01:05] <Laurenceb> I find London too much like a theme park
[01:05] <fuzzylugnut> ick
[01:05] <Laurenceb> it gets annoying with so many tourists
[01:05] <Laurenceb> Oxford is just ok
[01:05] <edmoore> you won't really escape them wherever you go, annoyingly
[01:05] <fuzzylugnut> how about Sheffield?
[01:05] <edmoore> Venice has got to be visited once
[01:05] <edmoore> not much in sheffield.....
[01:05] <edmoore> steel mills?
[01:05] <fuzzylugnut> they're nice
[01:06] <akawaka> went on the london eye
[01:06] <akawaka> it was fun for 2 minutes
[01:06] <edmoore> Cambridge and Oxford have some nice architecture
[01:06] <akawaka> then you are stuck in a glass tube for another 20 minutes
[01:06] <fuzzylugnut> cool : )
[01:07] <edmoore> I cycle past King's Chapel every day - it's fairly epic
[01:07] <edmoore> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_College_Chapel%2C_Cambridge
[01:07] <akawaka> europe and england in particular are just so bloody expensive now if you earn your living in dollars
[01:07] <Laurenceb> ha, thats why we buy from sparkfun
[01:08] <fuzzylugnut> how about hostels?
[01:08] <Laurenceb> there "youth hostels"
[01:08] <fuzzylugnut> oh.
[01:08] <Laurenceb> they are quite cheap, but if you stay in somewhere like holiday inn I hear it can be cheaper
[01:08] <edmoore> i'd play safe with a B&B or a travel inn
[01:09] <edmoore> agreed
[01:09] <akawaka> yeah
[01:09] <fuzzylugnut> ok, gotcha
[01:09] Action: Laurenceb had to live in holiday inn oxford when there was nowhere to stay at uni :P
[01:10] <fuzzylugnut> sounds expensive
[01:10] <edmoore> but yeah, florence is one of the most amazing places I've ever been.
[01:10] <fuzzylugnut> Cool
[01:10] <Laurenceb> it was a week or so during the vacation
[01:11] <edmoore> ulm cathedral I remember seeing when I was young. it was terrifyingly gothic and crazy
[01:12] <fuzzylugnut> sounds cool : )
[01:12] <edmoore> http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/51283886.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=444ED34A869CB970245903541013524C284831B75F48EF45
[01:13] <fuzzylugnut> holy
[01:13] <fuzzylugnut> crap.
[01:13] <Laurenceb> wow
[01:13] <edmoore> it's *big*
[01:14] <akawaka> fuzzylugnut: where do you live?
[01:14] <fuzzylugnut> idaho, at the moment
[01:14] <fuzzylugnut> I'm moving to TN may
[01:15] <akawaka> idaho is beautiful too
[01:15] <akawaka> that whole area up north there blew me away last year
[01:16] <fuzzylugnut> Oh yeah, the sawtooths are amazing.
[01:16] <akawaka> got sick of la so i loaded a bunch of camping gear into my car and made my way up to glacier national park and camped there for a week
[01:16] <edmoore> Actually speaking of Istanbul, try and get there
[01:16] <fuzzylugnut> yeah?
[01:16] <akawaka> then through idaho into washington
[01:16] <edmoore> it's on a massive techtonic line and will be fucked in the next 50 years or so
[01:16] <fuzzylugnut> awesome trip : )
[01:16] <akawaka> yeah
[01:17] <edmoore> and you'll never be able to marvel at the haggia sofia if you don't go and see it now
[01:17] <edmoore> it was the tallest building in the world for 1500 years
[01:17] <Laurenceb> "supervolcano" ? (I hate that term btw)
[01:17] <akawaka> i went in may, so i'm pretty sure i was one of the only people in the entire park
[01:17] <fuzzylugnut> I have yet to get up to glacier, but its on the list
[01:17] <Laurenceb> sound rather "discovery channelish"
[01:17] <edmoore> I have a perverse interest in the hisotry of science and mathmatics so its history appeals :)
[01:17] <fuzzylugnut> ahh : )
[01:18] <fuzzylugnut> brb, need milk. SO BAD.
[01:18] <edmoore> that's a funny kind of addiction!
[01:18] <akawaka> maybe its liquidified coke
[01:19] <Laurenceb> haha
[01:19] Action: Laurenceb mixes
[01:19] <edmoore> I have a bottle of champagne that I didn't drink for my birthday here
[01:20] <edmoore> don't want to take it home when i go in 2 days as I don't have space for it in the car
[01:20] <akawaka> classy
[01:20] <edmoore> tough life!
[01:20] <edmoore> I don't think I've reached that level of tragic where i'll drink a bottle of fizz on my own in my room at 1am
[01:20] <edmoore> still, tempted.....
[01:21] <akawaka> theres nothing wrong with drinking alone
[01:21] <akawaka> just make sure you call someone up drunk and cry
[01:22] <edmoore> good plan
[01:24] <Laurenceb> natrium42: thought you might like the intro to this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT8fvPVGUtc
[01:24] <natrium42> grrrrrr
[01:24] <natrium42> damn
[01:24] <natrium42> did i just get rickrolled?
[01:24] <Laurenceb> haha
[01:24] <natrium42> :D
[01:25] <fuzzylugnut> :o
[01:26] <akawaka> jesus
[01:26] <akawaka> demo music
[01:27] <Laurenceb> "1000 hours in ms paint" lol
[01:27] <fuzzylugnut> "I'd rather be fornicating"
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[01:30] <edmoore> We found out today that Stane street goes through our back garden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stane_Street)
[01:30] <edmoore> It's kind of humbling to think that where i currently mow the lawn had, 2000 years ago, legions marching up an down building an empire
[01:31] <fuzzylugnut> they don't now?
[01:31] <edmoore> bit of a mind job. we're not allowed to dig it up though, annoyingly
[01:31] <edmoore> funnily enough no
[01:31] <Laurenceb> wow
[01:31] <Laurenceb> a little dig wont make any difference :P
[01:31] <edmoore> i know!
[01:32] <edmoore> There must be some coins and stuff
[01:32] <fuzzylugnut> got a metal detector?
[01:32] <akawaka> is timeteam still on tv?
[01:32] <edmoore> yep
[01:32] <akawaka> god i loved that show
[01:33] <edmoore> they once were just down there road 'there's tonnes of roman stuff round here' and there's a photo of my, age 12, with Phil
[01:33] <edmoore> the west-country legend
[01:33] <edmoore> how I admire that man and his side-burns
[01:33] <akawaka> haha
[01:37] <fuzzylugnut> brb, fixing the ultimate lack of wine in my cabinet.
[01:42] <Laurenceb> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7nX3SxRrqWA
[01:44] <edmoore> having birthday cake and fizz
[01:44] <edmoore> happy birthfay to me!
[01:45] <edmoore> yeah that's an awesome vid
[01:45] <edmoore> i remember the lecturer showed it to us on our first ever EM fields and waves lecture last year
[01:45] <edmoore> still not convinced he's safe
[01:47] <Laurenceb> interesting how he has to equalise the potential with the line and chopper
[01:47] <edmoore> fairly spectacular
[01:47] <edmoore> suprised it took so much to do it
[01:47] <akawaka> so what exactly does a coupling transformer do for you?
[01:50] <edmoore> i think it just decouples the signal from any bias DC
[01:51] <edmoore> and can do impedance matching too
[01:51] <Laurenceb> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30&feature=related
[01:53] <fuzzylugnut> jebus.
[01:54] <edmoore> love these: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0&feature=related
[01:55] <fuzzylugnut> oh man
[01:55] <fuzzylugnut> that switch opened under load
[01:55] <edmoore> ha, you reckon? :p
[01:55] <fuzzylugnut> heeee...
[01:57] <edmoore> i love the singing coils
[01:58] <fuzzylugnut> lol, me too.
[01:58] <edmoore> ]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3ff_AXVlo9U
[01:58] <Laurenceb> I made a coil ages ago... but it was tn much good :P
[01:58] <edmoore> henry built a coil
[01:58] <Laurenceb> got about 10cm arcs
[01:58] <edmoore> it blew up
[01:58] <Laurenceb> haha
[01:59] <edmoore> contacter was made of lego - didn't help
[01:59] <Laurenceb> hehe
[01:59] <Laurenceb> I ran mine of a 12v car battery
[01:59] <Laurenceb> and a TV coil
[01:59] <Laurenceb> fried a lot a 555 timers making that work :P
[01:59] <fuzzylugnut> hah! mario!
[02:00] <Laurenceb> I tried tuning it with an am radio, but its not very good technique
[02:00] <fuzzylugnut> yeah, theres like a bazillion harmonics.
[02:01] <akawaka> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvY7NGncCgU
[02:01] <akawaka> want to build one of these
[02:01] <fuzzylugnut> HAHAHA
[02:01] <fuzzylugnut> thats awesome.
[02:02] <fuzzylugnut> omg. I sooo want to build one nowt oo.
[02:02] <edmoore> oooooooooooh
[02:02] <edmoore> awesome
[02:03] <akawaka> http://cre.ations.net/creation/assembling-your-time-fountain
[02:03] <akawaka> not that complex
[02:05] <fuzzylugnut> finally something to do with the 100 UV leds I got off ebay.
[02:05] <Laurenceb> nuice
[02:05] <edmoore> go for it
[02:05] <edmoore> that's awesome
[02:05] <Laurenceb> but syncronising could be a little hard
[02:05] <Laurenceb> he seems to do it well in the video
[02:06] <akawaka> just a little gold contact to tell when drops are falling
[02:06] <Laurenceb> ah - reading article
[02:08] <Laurenceb> ok, thats cool, easy to make with an avr
[02:08] <fuzzylugnut> that would be killer for dispensing absinthe.
[02:08] <Laurenceb> or even a 555
[02:08] <edmoore> hhaha!
[02:08] <edmoore> oh my good
[02:08] <edmoore> that would be the most awesome party piece
[02:08] <fuzzylugnut> I'm all out though : (
[02:08] <Laurenceb> lol
[02:08] <edmoore> so add prage to the list of places to visit
[02:08] <edmoore> and get some of the proper stuff
[02:09] <edmoore> prague*
[02:09] <akawaka> any alcohols that flourese under uv?
[02:09] <fuzzylugnut> I got king of spitits gold.
[02:09] <fuzzylugnut> http://www.absinthesupply.com/products/premium-pack.html
[02:09] <fuzzylugnut> that.
[02:10] <fuzzylugnut> and a bottle of trul 1972.
[02:11] <akawaka> i just pour rubbing alcohol over a sugar cube sized lump of crystal meth
[02:11] <akawaka> takes the edge off
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[02:12] <fuzzylugnut> speaking of, any one watch Breaking Bad?
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[02:12] <edmoore> fuzzylugnut: looks amazing... set you back a fair bit though!
[02:12] <fuzzylugnut> Laurenceb: yeah, that would be real easy on the arv platform
[02:13] <fuzzylugnut> Yeah, a bit.
[02:13] <edmoore> is it legal in the US?
[02:13] <Laurenceb> hmm actually its reasonably complex
[02:13] <fuzzylugnut> Hah
[02:13] <Laurenceb> you need the time between drops
[02:13] <Laurenceb> so hook the sensor up to a pin change interrupt
[02:13] <Laurenceb> and use a timer
[02:13] <Laurenceb> then pwm for the pump :P
[02:13] <fuzzylugnut> yeah, pretty simple
[02:13] <Laurenceb> you could have pots --> adc to control the drops
[02:14] <edmoore> It's legal in the UK
[02:14] <edmoore> but that's only because when it was banned everywhwere, it was overturned by the prince at the time because he rather liked it
[02:14] <Laurenceb> similar to making pov bikewheel displays, I've made a few of those
[02:14] <fuzzylugnut> haha
[02:14] <fuzzylugnut> "Its not illegal because I like it"
[02:14] <fuzzylugnut> : )
[02:15] <Laurenceb> http://users.ox.ac.uk/~shug2080/bike.wmv
[02:15] <edmoore> democracy in action
[02:15] <fuzzylugnut> Trul tastes alot better than king of spirits, but the thujone effect from king of spirts gold was wayyyyy more intense
[02:16] <fuzzylugnut> Laurenceb: very cool.
[02:17] <Laurenceb> about my first avr project :P
[02:17] <edmoore> we made one at the last minute take take with us for our stall at MIT
[02:17] <edmoore> 'CU Spaceflight' scrolling around on a spin-a-tron
[02:18] <edmoore> where spin-a-tron = horrendous bodge of old parts
[02:18] <Laurenceb> it adjusts to the wheel speed, and hybernates if your not moving, you could actually leave it for several weeks
[02:18] <Laurenceb> sadly now cannibalised
[02:19] <fuzzylugnut> monster!
[02:19] <Laurenceb> that bike got stolen anyway
[02:19] <Laurenceb> most things get boring after you've got them working
[02:21] <edmoore> exactly!
[02:22] <edmoore> truest thing ever
[02:23] <fuzzylugnut> the wine never mad it to my cabinet.
[02:23] <fuzzylugnut> : (
[02:23] <Laurenceb> I was cycling it around oxford for a few weeks like that, got some odd looks
[02:27] <fuzzylugnut> was it displaying "I give free hummers" ?
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[02:29] <edmoore> he took that well.
[02:30] <fuzzylugnut> hah
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[02:34] <fuzzylugnut> :3
[02:36] <Laurenceb> stupid ubuntu
[02:36] <Laurenceb> reboots 1/2 the time the screensaver comes on
[02:37] <fuzzylugnut> ack
[02:38] <Laurenceb> I wonder if you could make a time fountain binary clock ?
[02:44] <Laurenceb> guess youd really only want one drop at a time in the system
[02:44] <fuzzylugnut> yea, i think one could do it/
[02:45] Action: fuzzylugnut drinks some great desert wine and watches Easy Rider
[02:46] <Laurenceb> of course if you used different drops side by side, with different dye, then filters on your leds....
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[02:52] <fuzzylugnut> i love peter fonda : )
[02:52] <edmoore> never seen the film
[02:52] <edmoore> really should
[02:53] <fuzzylugnut> its deffinatly a dennis hopper film, but thats what makes it good, imo.
[02:55] <edmoore> right, 3am = bedtime
[02:55] <edmoore> happy wine!
[02:55] <fuzzylugnut> will do!
[02:55] <fuzzylugnut> have a good one
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[03:00] <Laurenceb> me 2 cya
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[03:00] <fuzzylugnut> Laters
[03:01] <fuzzylugnut> this feels like a friday
[03:20] <fuzzylugnut> and my wine situation has returned to its previous state.
[03:44] <fuzzylugnut> goodnights!
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[17:57] <Hiena> Good evening!
[17:57] <natrium42> hi
[17:58] <Hiena> How things going?
[17:58] <natrium42> pretty good
[17:59] <natrium42> you?
[18:03] <Hiena> Tired. Wrestled with a lot of, thick and old cables at the half of the day, and hunted for a bugs in the horizont-finder's source. Not to mention, the guys at the uni. wants to use the code for a real life capture.
[18:06] <natrium42> fun
[18:10] <Hiena> Sure. The only disappointing thing the speed of the development, and the lack of the support from they side. Basically, i'm doing the whole framework, since they do the scientifical documentations.
[18:12] <natrium42> bbl, lecture
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[19:31] <akawaka> such a thing as a good online transistor tutorial
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[21:27] <fuzzylugnut> :3
[21:28] <natrium42> :?
[21:29] <fuzzylugnut> sensors came today
[21:30] <natrium42> coolz
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[21:33] <akawaka> which?
[21:33] <fuzzylugnut> pressure, temperature, and stuff for a geiger counter.
[21:43] <akawaka> is there some linux app that can interact with gpsd to send aprs info?
[21:44] <fuzzylugnut> clever redirection?
[21:44] <akawaka> what is the linux aprs app?
[21:45] <fuzzylugnut> its built into the kernel. you could use soundmodem to recieve, the device /dev/soundmodem0 could be used bidirectionally
[21:46] <akawaka> thats ax25, there is no aprs specifc apps?
[21:47] <fuzzylugnut> not that I can think of
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[22:25] <fuzzylugnut> thanks alot you guys : (
[22:26] <fuzzylugnut> <-- addicted to sparkfun now.
[22:28] <akawaka> those places don't have the immediacy i need
[22:28] <akawaka> i want it now
[22:29] <akawaka> i prefer going to radioshack and frys and getting angry at their pure lack of anything
[22:29] <fuzzylugnut> I have yet to visit a frys
[22:36] <akawaka> i have yet to learn how to use a transistor
[22:36] <akawaka> maybe i should experiment
[23:00] <natrium42> akawaka, that's why you chose overnight shipping
[23:01] <akawaka> $10 for a $.50 part:)
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