highaltitude.log.20070428

[00:04] <jcoxon> right
[00:04] <jcoxon> the only thing that doesn't work is the compass
[00:06] <jcoxon> i think i might leave it
[00:07] <jcoxon> obviously needs a rethink
[00:08] <rocketboy> OK - cu in the morning
[00:08] <jcoxon> night
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[00:23] <Laurenceb> Hi all
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[08:19] <icez> howdy edwardmoore
[08:19] <edwardmoore> hey icez, its actually jcoxon
[08:19] <edwardmoore> we are preparing for the launch
[08:19] <icez> oj
[08:20] <icez> must be morning over there?
[08:20] <edwardmoore> yup
[08:20] <icez> gosh
[08:20] <icez> :/
[08:20] <icez> i should go to sleep
[08:20] <edwardmoore> haha
[08:20] <edwardmoore> you'll miss the launch
[08:20] <icez> stupid programming coolness :P
[08:20] <icez> bah, are you broadcasting it live on NASA TV?:)
[08:22] <edwardmoore> hehe
[08:22] <edwardmoore> no but zeusbot will tell you where it is
[08:22] <icez> right
[08:22] <icez> !location
[08:22] <icez> :|
[08:23] <icez> what are you doing in the north pole;)
[08:23] <edwardmoore> i think it's somewhere in the atlantic actually :p
[08:23] <icez> ah
[08:23] <icez> yeah..
[08:24] <icez> north pole should be 0,90
[08:24] <icez> but 0 is in the UK :)
[08:24] <edwardmoore> yep :)
[08:24] <edwardmoore> good old imperialism
[08:24] <icez> lol
[08:25] <icez> have you ever seen the real line they put in front of the observatory?
[08:25] <edwardmoore> yep, been there
[08:26] <edwardmoore> you jump backwards and forwards like a small kid for hours :)
[08:26] <edwardmoore> 'east...west...east...west
[08:27] <icez> :)
[08:27] <icez> yeah...I've been to the nevada/arizona border
[08:27] <icez> I couldn't help but jump from side to side
[08:27] <edwardmoore> it's fun :)
[08:27] <icez> "nevada! arizona! nevada! ari.."
[08:27] <icez> so you guys are live from the field?
[08:30] <edwardmoore> nope, my room
[08:30] <edwardmoore> (this is ed now)
[08:32] <icez> well, I'm going
[08:32] <icez> good luck with the launch :D
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[13:21] <phatmonkey> haha, cool
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[16:09] <phatmonkey> ooh
[16:09] <phatmonkey> is it alive then
[16:09] <phatmonkey> i swear that's different to the last one
[16:09] <edwardmoore> it's collected
[16:09] <edwardmoore> just got back
[16:09] <phatmonkey> oh brilliant
[16:09] <edwardmoore> it didn't mame it very high
[16:10] <edwardmoore> slow ascent rate (the scales we thing we dodgey that we used to calculate lift) and a 2 hour max flight time till cut-down, of which 30 mins were spent on the ground, meant that we only just broke 10km
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[16:12] <msweeney> howdy
[16:12] <msweeney> any news on PegV?
[16:14] <edwardmoore> just recovered it from kettering
[16:15] <edwardmoore> it's in good nic, could go up again right now if necessary
[16:15] <msweeney> cool, how high?
[16:15] <edwardmoore> but the balloon was underfilled and the cut-down was set to go off after 2 hours so it didn't make it past 10km
[16:16] <msweeney> still, pretty high
[16:16] <msweeney> height of the UK rocket altitude record...
[16:18] Action: msweeney looks forward to the pics and info
[16:18] <msweeney> was there an onboard cam?
[16:18] <edwardmoore> james is heading back to his college now
[16:18] <edwardmoore> yep it did
[16:18] <msweeney> cool
[16:18] <msweeney> right, im off to sheffield
[16:18] <msweeney> tarra
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[17:32] <edwardmoore_> hi icez
[17:33] <icez> hi
[17:33] <icez> how did it go?
[17:33] <icez> :)
[17:34] <edwardmoore_> well....
[17:34] <edwardmoore_> it's back and in one peice
[17:34] <icez> woohoo
[17:34] <edwardmoore_> however due to the software cutting down after two hours, combined with an unde-filled balloon, it didn't get particularly high
[17:34] <icez> aw:\
[17:35] <edwardmoore_> but it did break 10km which is ok
[17:35] <edwardmoore_> and the recovery was good
[17:35] <icez> at least it lives to fly another day
[17:35] <icez> :)
[17:35] <edwardmoore_> one of those park the car, then go for a walk through the country-side with the antenna untill we saw the parachute from a distance on a hedge
[17:35] <edwardmoore_> yes, hopefully perhaps next sunday!
[17:36] <edwardmoore_> oh random question, do you know anything about openWRT?
[17:36] <icez> not really
[17:36] <edwardmoore_> WEP encryption?
[17:36] <icez> well a little
[17:36] <edwardmoore_> do you know how i generate a key?
[17:37] <icez> mmm, it's simple md5 stuff...you can put in anything into http://icez.org/pub/misc/crypt/
[17:37] <icez> just has to be md5
[17:38] <edwardmoore_> that gives me an invalid key length error
[17:38] <icez> uh
[17:39] <icez> are you sure you're putting 128-bit?
[17:39] <icez> or 64-bit?
[17:40] <edwardmoore_> i don't know :(
[17:40] <edwardmoore_> this is what i just generated on your site: 3f4b21e47567900633121009b911069d
[17:40] <icez> ok
[17:40] <icez> and your router doesn't tell you any -bit stuff?
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[17:40] <edwardmoore_> not as far as i can tell
[17:41] <icez> cuz there's 64-bit WEP
[17:41] <icez> and 128-bit WEP
[17:41] <icez> md5 is 128
[17:41] <icez> technically you could also split the md5 in two I guess :P
[17:41] <edwardmoore_> oh hang on a sec...
[17:41] <icez> it doesn't really have to "real" as long as it's something
[17:42] <edwardmoore_> ok done
[17:43] <icez> and when you're connecting it'll ask you for the key
[17:46] <edwardmoore_> yep- can i eneter the asci equivalet or do i need to enter the hex?
[17:46] <icez> I use the hex
[17:47] <icez> i have no idea what the ascii is since I made a little script to generate random numbers, cut them apart and plug them back in and then md5() them
[17:47] <icez> :P
[17:48] <edwardmoore_> ha it works!
[17:48] <edwardmoore_> thank you icez
[17:48] <icez> :D
[17:48] <edwardmoore_> i'm a bit of a neanderthal when it comes to networking
[17:49] <edwardmoore_> ok going to be disconnected for a bit...
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[18:27] <Laurenceb> hmm not working?
[18:27] <Laurenceb> oh well how did the launch go?
[18:30] <icez> it was recovered
[18:30] <Laurenceb> cool
[18:30] <icez> but didn't go long enough because of some cutdown problems
[18:30] <icez> did go over 10km
[18:30] <Laurenceb> just looking on google earth
[18:30] <Laurenceb> oh :(
[18:30] <icez> sad it is :)
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[18:34] <lb> hmm caxton?
[18:35] <lb> very high res shots on google earth :)
[18:37] <lb> oh hang on zeusbot still has churchill college doh
[18:37] <lb> oh well i'll check back later cya
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[19:37] <edwardmoore_> hi jcoxon
[19:38] <jcoxon> hey edwardmoore_
[19:38] <edwardmoore_> how's it going?
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[19:41] <edwardmoore_> hi rocketboy
[19:42] <rocketboy> hiya
[19:42] <edwardmoore_> get back ok?
[19:43] <rocketboy> yeah - not oo bad - just finished watching Dr who
[19:43] <edwardmoore_> lol
[19:44] <edwardmoore_> might have to go for a bit as i need my one network port to rescue my router
[19:44] <rocketboy> last week I went to a dr who convention (not may people would own up to that)
[19:44] <edwardmoore_> infact jcoxon can i pick your openWRT brains?
[19:44] <jcoxon> shoot
[19:44] <edwardmoore_> i keep getting login faileds
[19:44] <edwardmoore_> both on ssh and web interface
[19:45] <jcoxon> case sensitive?
[19:45] <edwardmoore_> and i'm almost certain it's not because of the wrong password
[19:45] <icez> it is case sensitive
[19:45] <edwardmoore_> fairly sure it's not that... can i reset?
[19:46] <jcoxon> yeah, i don't see why noy
[19:46] <jcoxon> not*
[19:46] <jcoxon> you can reflash if not
[19:46] <jcoxon> though it'll be slightly harder
[19:46] <edwardmoore_> i'll try this failsafe mode first
[19:47] <jcoxon> good plan
[19:47] <jcoxon> you might be able to telnet in with out a password
[19:47] <icez> I've reflashed a router once in my life
[19:47] <jcoxon> to set it
[19:47] <icez> and it died
[19:47] <icez> ;)
[19:47] <edwardmoore_> need to do it through lan rather than wireless, so i'll be back in a bit
[19:47] <jcoxon> i've reflashed a router by shorting hte memory pins :-D
[19:47] <edwardmoore_> yes i think i can... but can i set a new password from there?
[19:47] <icez> haha
[19:48] <jcoxon> i think so
[19:48] <edwardmoore_> apparently full resets (of the nvram) will brick some models
[19:49] <jcoxon> possibily
[19:50] <edwardmoore_> ok back in a bit
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[19:55] <edwardmoore> well it wouldn't let me change the password
[19:55] <edwardmoore> Enter new password:
[19:55] <edwardmoore> Re-enter new password:
[19:55] <edwardmoore> passwd: An error occurred updating the password file.
[19:56] <edwardmoore> to i'll try to reflash with tftp
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[20:08] <edwardmoore> i think i've bricked it
[20:10] <rocketboy> nooooooooo
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[20:16] <edwardmoore> i've definitely bricked it. screw-driver time
[20:16] <jcoxon> its usually fixable
[20:16] <jcoxon> tried tft[p?
[20:16] <jcoxon> tftp?
[20:17] <edwardmoore> yes but it's the password authenitication error
[20:17] <edwardmoore> basically i never set boot_wait to on
[20:17] <jcoxon> there is still a little period of time
[20:18] <jcoxon> its just a bit harder to cathc
[20:18] <jcoxon> catch
[20:18] <edwardmoore> well i'll try again then
[20:18] <edwardmoore> should i do it first thing?
[20:18] <edwardmoore> like as soon as a plug the power in
[20:18] <jcoxon> there is a way to set up tftp to keep trying
[20:18] <jcoxon> then plug the router in
[20:19] <edwardmoore> not on my version :(
[20:19] <jcoxon> sure there is
[20:20] <edwardmoore> i'm using a cocoa app atm
[20:20] <jcoxon> no no
[20:20] <edwardmoore> if i can do it commando then tell me
[20:20] <jcoxon> commandline
[20:20] <jcoxon> get with it moore
[20:20] <edwardmoore> ok i'm listening
[20:20] <jcoxon> hehe
[20:21] <edwardmoore> can u get usb network cards?
[20:22] <jcoxon> yup
[20:22] <edwardmoore> cool. anyhu, how does one tftp from the command line with this setting?
[20:22] <jcoxon> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Installing/TFTP?action=show&redirect=OpenWrtViaTftp
[20:22] <jcoxon> follow the linux one
[20:23] <edwardmoore> ok back in a sec
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[20:29] <edwardmoore_> doesn't seem to be working
[20:29] <edwardmoore_> just trying about 50 times until it times out
[20:29] <jcoxon> might take a few goes
[20:30] <jcoxon> one way to check is to ping the ip address of the router
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[20:30] <jcoxon> and see if it registers at all
[20:34] <jcoxon> pictures, log and kml files here for the flight http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/pegasus5/
[20:40] <jcoxon> bbl
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[20:48] <edwardmoore> has jcoxon gone forever?
[20:55] <rocketboy> some nice pics
[20:55] <rocketboy> bbl
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[21:41] <icez> edwardmoore, he's bbl
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[22:11] <edwardmoore> sorry for the in-out spam guys
[22:11] <edwardmoore> router is being stupid
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[22:41] <edwardmoore> hi jcoxon
[22:44] <jcoxon> hey edwardmoore
[22:44] <edwardmoore> given up with it
[22:44] <edwardmoore> put the old firmware on it and will try openwrt another day
[22:48] <edwardmoore> just had a look at the kml file
[22:48] <edwardmoore> it's a lovely profile
[22:58] <jcoxon> yeah it was good
[22:58] <jcoxon> now to go higher!
[22:59] <jcoxon> stick some comments on the wiki if you want
[22:59] <jcoxon> i'm sure i've forgotten some of the things i said i would fix
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[23:05] <jcoxon> night all
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