highaltitude.log.20070124

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[00:00] <laurenceb> hi all
[00:00] <jcoxon> hey laurenceb
[00:01] <jcoxon> nova 3 has been found
[00:01] <jcoxon> haha
[00:01] <laurenceb> i have pizza
[00:01] <laurenceb> oh cool
[00:01] <jcoxon> excellent
[00:01] <jcoxon> its in germany near denmark
[00:01] <jcoxon> 620km
[00:01] <laurenceb> yum
[00:01] <laurenceb> who found it
[00:01] <jcoxon> some germans
[00:02] <jcoxon> they called henry
[00:02] <laurenceb> wtf the thing we launched
[00:02] <laurenceb> thats unbeliavable
[00:03] <jcoxon> indeed
[00:03] <laurenceb> the whole thing?
[00:03] <jcoxon> not sure
[00:03] <jcoxon> the cutdown must of made it as they got henry's no.
[00:03] <laurenceb> what do you think of using my valve€?
[00:04] <laurenceb> it's finished
[00:04] <jcoxon> i'm not sure
[00:04] <jcoxon> i've got nothing ready right now
[00:04] <laurenceb> just a regular servo input
[00:04] <jcoxon> to tell you the truth i think we need a lot more planning before we can use a valve
[00:04] <jcoxon> and a hell of a lot better weather
[00:05] <laurenceb> this pizza is too spicy
[00:05] <jcoxon> hehe
[00:05] <laurenceb> I'll go back to dominoes
[00:06] <laurenceb> not papa johns
[00:07] <laurenceb> Did you get my text about gps modules?
[00:07] <jcoxon> yeah
[00:07] <jcoxon> sorry i've been really busy recently
[00:07] <laurenceb> It seems the gpsstix board has a really goot module
[00:08] <jcoxon> working on my research project
[00:08] <jcoxon> yeah we asked for hte better gps module
[00:08] <jcoxon> as in the gumstix community
[00:08] <laurenceb> have you got servos running off gpios?
[00:08] <jcoxon> i've done it before
[00:08] <jcoxon> for nomad
[00:08] <laurenceb> ok
[00:09] <jcoxon> i'm not really in a position to put together an autopilot right now though
[00:09] <jcoxon> beginning to collect projects
[00:09] <jcoxon> need to start completing some
[00:10] <laurenceb> do you have a gumstix I could "borrow"?
[00:10] <laurenceb> I'd try not to fry it
[00:10] <laurenceb> could attempt an autopilot
[00:10] <jcoxon> sadly not - i've got my main gumstix with a gpsstix
[00:11] <jcoxon> and i've got another gumstix which is tied up in my other project
[00:11] <laurenceb> will it be on the next flight/
[00:11] <jcoxon> i've got a faulty gpsstix
[00:11] <jcoxon> maybe
[00:11] <jcoxon> i could send you that
[00:11] <jcoxon> its got the gps module on board
[00:11] <laurenceb> lol
[00:11] <jcoxon> in theory it could be got to work
[00:11] <laurenceb> oh ok
[00:11] <jcoxon> wack in power and accept data on ttl serial i guess
[00:11] <jcoxon> not promising anything
[00:12] <laurenceb> yes could solder it to my autopilot
[00:12] <laurenceb> can you get 4hz updates tho?
[00:12] <laurenceb> thats the who aim of this
[00:12] <jcoxon> yeah i think so
[00:12] <jcoxon> but
[00:12] <jcoxon> it doesn't do altitude every 4hz
[00:12] <jcoxon> or something like that
[00:13] <laurenceb> just need headign
[00:13] <laurenceb> @4hz
[00:13] <laurenceb> $GPRMC
[00:14] <laurenceb> arg chilli
[00:16] <laurenceb> help burning
[00:18] <laurenceb> for your own safty never buy papa johns pizza
[00:19] <jcoxon> okay
[00:19] <jcoxon> thanks for the advice :-p
[00:19] <jcoxon> damn buildroot
[00:19] <jcoxon> cant' work out this error
[00:21] <laurenceb> oh I ordered pepper not pepperoni
[00:22] <laurenceb> at least if you make a similar mistake with electronics its not you thats fried
[00:22] <laurenceb> so jcoxon is gprmc at 4hz?
[00:23] <jcoxon> i think so
[00:23] <jcoxon> i'd have to check sometime
[00:23] <laurenceb> sorry I've got to go its raini ng, dont want my laptop to get wet
[00:23] <laurenceb> (wifi)
[00:23] <jcoxon> no problem
[00:23] <jcoxon> get some legal broadband
[00:23] <laurenceb> irc blocked at college
[00:23] <laurenceb> cya
[00:23] <jcoxon> get in unblocked - i did
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[01:01] <jcoxon> hey icez
[01:01] <jcoxon> we've found Nova 3
[01:01] <jcoxon> its in germany - 620km away
[01:01] <jcoxon> haha
[01:03] <icez> hey jcoxon
[01:03] <icez> WOW!
[01:03] <icez> mmm
[01:03] <icez> Nova 3 is the one that suposedly had died in the ocean?
[01:08] <hmh33> oh hi, sorry, was afk
[01:08] <hmh33> unfortunately Nova 3 was just a small experiment really, it was Nova 2 that was lost with cameras etc
[01:08] <hmh33> I really wish we'd put a more survivable marker on Nova 2, it might well have been found
[01:08] <icez> oh..
[01:08] <icez> but Germany...that's wow.
[01:10] <jcoxon> right i'm off
[01:10] <jcoxon> night all
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[19:18] <jcoxon> hey rocketboy
[19:18] <jcoxon> did you hear about nova 3?
[19:18] <rocketboy> nope
[19:19] <jcoxon> oh you not on the ukhas mailing list oops
[19:19] <jcoxon> right well its been found
[19:19] <rocketboy> wow
[19:19] <rocketboy> where
[19:19] <jcoxon> Germany
[19:19] <rocketboy> double wow
[19:19] <jcoxon> 620km away
[19:19] <rocketboy> amazing
[19:19] <jcoxon> some germans found it and gave henry a call
[19:19] <rocketboy> when was it found
[19:19] <jcoxon> the coords are on the ukhas website
[19:19] <jcoxon> yesterday i think
[19:19] <jcoxon> thats when they called
[19:20] <jcoxon> they are sending it back to us by post
[19:20] <rocketboy> criky
[19:20] <rocketboy> I bet henry & co are pleased - i wonder what shape its in
[19:21] <jcoxon> oh rocketboy this is the one we launched 2 weeks ago
[19:21] <jcoxon> the cutdown + beacon
[19:21] <rocketboy> ah
[19:22] <rocketboy> I didn't know there was one launched 2 weeks ago
[19:22] <jcoxon> maybe it was 3 then
[19:22] <rocketboy> i guess i have been out of the loop for a bit
[19:22] <jcoxon> no no
[19:22] <jcoxon> you were there
[19:22] <jcoxon> the one from ears
[19:22] <rocketboy> sorry
[19:22] <jcoxon> henry named it nova 3
[19:22] <jcoxon> as it was his cutdown device
[19:23] <rocketboy> OK
[19:23] <jcoxon> and the old Peg III beacon
[19:23] <rocketboy> well I may get my bits back after all
[19:23] <jcoxon> should do
[19:23] <rocketboy> sorry - I thought you were talking about N2
[19:23] <jcoxon> i wish nova 2 was recoverd
[19:24] <jcoxon> that would be impressive
[19:24] <icez> inside a whale
[19:24] <icez> :;p
[19:24] <jcoxon> also shows that henry's cutdown didn't work
[19:24] <rocketboy> yeah - I guessed form the sound of the becon
[19:25] <rocketboy> but germany - that is impressive
[19:25] <icez> yeah
[19:25] <jcoxon> its actually very near to the danish border
[19:25] <icez> is that a world record?:)
[19:25] <icez> for an amateur HAB
[19:25] <icez> :P
[19:26] <jcoxon> no idea
[19:26] <rocketboy> I wonder what went wrong with the cutdown
[19:27] <rocketboy> I guess that shows its worthwile putting return notices in a few launguages
[19:28] <jcoxon> yeah
[19:28] <jcoxon> i'm interested to know if it made land
[19:28] <jcoxon> or was washed up
[19:29] <rocketboy> ah - it was near the coast - I'll look at the co-ords
[19:47] <rocketboy> humm - well it it landed there it was very good luck - my guess washed up
[19:47] <jcoxon> henry emailed them today to ask
[19:48] <rocketboy> seems to be a bit further north than i was expecting
[19:48] <rocketboy> given it seemed to be going due east
[19:49] <jcoxon> indeed
[19:49] <jcoxon> lucky we didn't launch proper payloads
[19:49] <rocketboy> yeah
[19:49] <rocketboy> I'm waiting for a good jetstream day before i launch mine
[19:50] <jcoxon> just about to look at when a good day would be
[19:50] <jcoxon> hmmm today is interesting :-p
[19:50] <rocketboy> could be sunday/monday next
[19:50] <jcoxon> http://www.wunderground.com/global/Region/EU/2xJetStream.html
[19:51] <jcoxon> a week on sunday looks exceedingly nice
[19:51] <jcoxon> and sat as well
[19:51] <jcoxon> its a little early to say though
[19:52] <rocketboy> humm a week sunday is the next day I have booked at EARS
[19:52] <jcoxon> forecast shows below 10 knots
[19:52] <jcoxon> it might shift of course
[19:53] <jcoxon> actually make that 10-20knots
[19:53] <rocketboy> Sure - thats what I want to go for
[19:53] <jcoxon> but still
[19:53] <jcoxon> will be more certain after this weekend
[19:56] <rocketboy> that will give me a bit more time too - I have to do my Tax return this week (if I don't want a £100 fine)
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[19:59] <jcoxon> hehe - all the fun i have to look forward to
[19:59] <jcoxon> do you want to go at EARS then?
[20:00] <rocketboy> I don't mind - if it turns out to be OK that day I don't see why not
[20:00] <rocketboy> at least it makes use of the permit
[20:01] <jcoxon> true
[20:01] <jcoxon> i'll get some wellington boots :-p
[20:01] <rocketboy> yeah - it was a bit muddy
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[20:02] <jcoxon> any ideas for something for me to put together
[20:02] <jcoxon> i've nearly finished my camera module if you want to fly that
[20:02] <rocketboy> I guess chirchill would be less muddy - but further to lug stuff
[20:02] <jcoxon> (of course we can just do yours)
[20:02] <jcoxon> also they've got gas
[20:02] <jcoxon> and helium won't make so much of a fuss
[20:02] <jcoxon> helium -> henry
[20:03] Action: jcoxon 's brain is fried from trying to compile the gumstix buildroot on osx
[20:03] <rocketboy> well i have just found my old SD based DV cam - so if mc's trcaker works we can fly those 3 together
[20:03] <jcoxon> okay i'll wait
[20:03] <rocketboy> the dv cam will take about 3 hours of video on a 1g SD
[20:03] <rocketboy> only 320 x 240 x 15FPS though
[20:04] <jcoxon> that should be fine
[20:04] <rocketboy> it would be interesting though
[20:04] <jcoxon> for a first flight at least
[20:04] <jcoxon> pointing down or sideways?
[20:05] <rocketboy> humm thats hard
[20:05] <rocketboy> - could make a mirror to give a split view
[20:05] <jcoxon> could do
[20:05] <jcoxon> you might want to maximise the picture though
[20:05] <jcoxon> i vote sideways
[20:05] <jcoxon> it'll give a judgement of spin, be interesting as well
[20:06] <rocketboy> I'd like to see a cutdown/burst
[20:06] <jcoxon> i was just thinking that
[20:06] <rocketboy> 3 cams then
[20:06] <jcoxon> thats a lot
[20:06] <rocketboy> or a 180deg servo
[20:07] <jcoxon> is your camera sideways?
[20:07] <rocketboy> ?
[20:07] <jcoxon> do you have a camera onboard your payload?
[20:07] <rocketboy> yes - sideways
[20:07] <jcoxon> right okay
[20:08] <jcoxon> so we have:
[20:08] <jcoxon> balloon -- cutdown/parachute -- your payload -- dv camera -- mc's payload
[20:08] <jcoxon> or something like that
[20:09] <jcoxon> i'll save my payload (as i don't have one and it goes against my new rules of flights)
[20:10] <rocketboy> radar reflector?
[20:10] <rocketboy> another oppertunity to shread one
[20:10] <jcoxon> okay
[20:10] <jcoxon> shall i try and make one?
[20:11] <rocketboy> yeah - that would be good
[20:11] <jcoxon> okay
[20:12] <jcoxon> i think when i have a spare moment i'm going to put together jcoxon's guide to launch preparation
[20:12] <jcoxon> intergrate our debriefing ideas
[20:16] <jcoxon> right i'm off to the cinema
[20:16] <jcoxon> cya
[20:17] <rocketboy> cya
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[20:29] <Max0> hi all
[20:29] <rocketboy> hi
[20:30] <Max0> hey rocketboy
[20:30] <Max0> u guys hoping to fly this weekend?
[20:31] <rocketboy> Possibly - but the jetstream is a bit too fast 4 me
[20:32] <rocketboy> more likly a week later
[20:32] <Max0> my gps module turned up :)
[20:33] <rocketboy> - have you tried it yet?
[20:33] <rocketboy> what sort is it
[20:33] <Max0> no not yet its similar to jcoxon's
[20:34] <Max0> i havnt got a antenna or router yet to try it out on
[20:34] <Max0> i might need a hand wiring it up
[20:36] <rocketboy> ah a jupiter?
[20:37] <Max0> aiye
[20:38] <Max0> its got a 20pin male connector on it
[20:38] <Max0> so i dont think it will be too hard
[20:38] <rocketboy> I have one of those too - I couldn't resist it at the price
[20:38] <Max0> did you get it recently on ebay?
[20:39] <Max0> wounder if its the same unit
[20:40] <rocketboy> probably - i got it about 7/8 weeks ago
[20:40] <Max0> ah right do you know where i can get the female connector for it?
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[20:43] <rocketboy> yeah - i had to make one up - I got the parts from rapidonline - i used 2 x 10 x 2mm pitch way connectors and glued then together
[20:44] <Max00> i think ive got a old serial cable for a 5110 as well kicking about
[20:45] <Max00> so i might make a cheap war driving / car tracking tool
[20:45] <Max00> then mod it for a ballon
[20:45] <Max00> but i dont know much about balloonin
[20:46] <rocketboy> weel we are all a bit new to it in the UK
[20:48] <Max00> what protocol do you guys use for your gps to radio
[20:49] <Max00> just morse code
[20:49] <rocketboy> we use morse - or 300baud FSK 8 bit ASCII for data
[20:50] <Max00> so u need a laptop to decode it?
[20:50] <rocketboy> for the data yep
[20:50] <Max00> ive got a scanner but not a laptop
[20:50] <Max00> :(
[20:51] <rocketboy> actually someone does a scanner that will decode - but I havn't got one
[20:51] <Max00> so was wounderin could you record each number to a file
[20:51] <rocketboy> morse - or similar code is ok
[20:51] <Max00> then play the files and get audio
[20:51] <Max00> maybe a bit complex
[20:53] <rocketboy> yeah - or just write it down - mc has a simple code that is easier to learn than morse
[20:54] <rocketboy> (for numbers)
[20:54] <Max00> i guess i could borrow a laptop from work for the weekend if i ever got round to flying
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