highaltitude.log.20061219

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[08:19] <jcoxon> hey all
[08:19] <jcoxon> hey tuck3r - welcome to highaltitude
[08:21] <tuck3r> hi, i have just been reading the pegasus and slug web sites and find this quite interesting
[08:21] <jcoxon> cool
[08:21] <jcoxon> pegasus is my project
[08:22] <tuck3r> you do a very good job of documenting your work
[08:23] <jcoxon> i try
[08:23] <jcoxon> though it gets a little messy
[08:24] <jcoxon> i document cause most of the infomation is from the internet and takes ages to shift through
[08:24] <tuck3r> is there any reason that most of this seems to be done in the UK?
[08:24] <jcoxon> actually most high altitude balloon is done in the USA
[08:25] <jcoxon> however in the UK we have a relatively different situation
[08:25] <jcoxon> more restrictive rules
[08:25] <jcoxon> and the sea
[08:25] <tuck3r> so it is easier over here :)
[08:25] <jcoxon> i think we have just clumped together
[08:25] <jcoxon> if your in the usa in theory yes
[08:26] <jcoxon> lots of HAMs have projects - there was a launch on tuesday by UTARC for example
[08:26] <tuck3r> well i live in arizona, the population is clustered in one place so I have a whole state to land in
[08:26] <jcoxon> nice
[08:27] <jcoxon> there are certainly projects in arizona
[08:28] <jcoxon> high altitude ballooning is a good hobby
[08:28] <jcoxon> we are beginning to be able to push the technical boundaries
[08:29] <tuck3r> well this is kind of daunting for me as i am a computer person not a building things person
[08:29] <jcoxon> oh so am i
[08:29] <tuck3r> thats why i found using the gumstix cool
[08:29] <jcoxon> i struggle with a led and a battery
[08:29] <jcoxon> exactly why i use a gumstix
[08:29] <jcoxon> hehe
[08:30] <jcoxon> its really totally overkill
[08:30] <jcoxon> but makes sense to me
[08:32] <tuck3r> did you ever look in to ham radios for communication? the cell idea is quite cheap and easy but i don't think we have the cell coverage here do to that
[08:33] <jcoxon> thats the problem
[08:33] <jcoxon> in the UK the HAM licence doesn't allow for this sort of thing
[08:33] <jcoxon> we do have a radio system now but it uses licence exempt freqs
[08:33] <jcoxon> 434mhz at no more then 10mW
[08:34] <tuck3r> the radio you used in peg 3 seemed quite simple, did you build it or buy it?
[08:36] <jcoxon> it was built for me
[08:36] <jcoxon> i hope to build one myself soon
[08:36] <jcoxon> while radios are great i don't have all the equipment to receive them
[08:37] <jcoxon> so my plan is to keep using mobile phones
[08:37] <jcoxon> but also have a radio beacon just in case
[08:37] <tuck3r> don't you just need a simple ham handset?
[08:37] <jcoxon> yup
[08:37] <jcoxon> and a modem to decode the data
[08:38] <tuck3r> so in theory you could write a client and map the gps data from the balloon
[08:39] <jcoxon> yeah
[08:40] <tuck3r> sms is just so much simpler :(
[08:41] <tuck3r> well i don't think it would be to hard to fine a 100 sq miles area that has a low pop density
[08:41] <tuck3r> (with cell coverage)
[08:43] <jcoxon> yeah
[08:43] <jcoxon> if you want a simple design Peg I is the best to use
[08:43] <jcoxon> though Peg IV while not finished is an exceedingly cheap way of putting togther a payload
[08:44] <tuck3r> i was thinking something like the peg 1 but using the gpsstix
[08:48] <jcoxon> yeah thats a good idea
[08:49] <jcoxon> if you do use a phone you can directly wire it
[08:49] <jcoxon> like in peg III
[08:52] <tuck3r> i'm glad the FCC just removed the morse code from the ham test
[08:57] <jcoxon> yeah that'll make it easier
[08:58] <jcoxon> right i better be off
[08:58] <jcoxon> good talking to you\
[08:58] <tuck3r> bye
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