highaltitude.log.20061121

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[17:47] <jcoxon> zeusbot, countdown
[17:47] <jcoxon> zeusbot, !countdown
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[17:51] <jcoxon> !date
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[17:54] <jcoxon> !date
[18:21] <icez> :\
[18:21] <icez> oh, you're launching on my brother's birthday;)
[18:48] <jcoxon> nah that isn't the launch date
[18:48] <jcoxon> i was just playing with the countdown script
[18:50] <icez> awww
[18:52] <jcoxon> adding a few features fo zeusbot
[18:52] <icez> maybe some sort of memo thingie, so when you want to talk to someone who's not here you can leave him a message;D
[18:53] <icez> oh..
[18:53] <icez> there's memoserv :\
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[18:58] <jcoxon> !talkz
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[19:00] <jcoxon> !talkz
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[19:03] <jcoxon> hi zeusbot
[19:03] <jcoxon> !talkz
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[19:06] <icez> !talkz
[19:08] <jcoxon> anything?
[19:09] <icez> nope
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[19:10] <jcoxon> hey zeusbot
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[19:12] <jcoxon> nah none of hte scripts seem to work
[19:12] <jcoxon> oh well at least countdown does
[19:14] <jcoxon> though i don't really have a launch to countdown to!
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[19:17] <jcoxon> hi Ollii||
[19:17] <Ollii||> Hi, I am Olli
[19:17] <jcoxon> :-)
[19:18] <Ollii||> and you? :D
[19:18] <jcoxon> i'm jcoxon!
[19:18] <Ollii||> Ok
[19:20] <jcoxon> well welcome to #highaltitude
[19:21] <Ollii||> Thanks and Bye
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[19:23] <jcoxon> evening rocketboy
[19:24] <rocketboy> hi
[19:24] <jcoxon> any news on nova2?
[19:25] <rocketboy> no - I just saw Henry and Carl - and there is no news
[19:26] <rocketboy> I haven't had anything back form dutch hams either
[19:26] <jcoxon> oh dear
[19:26] <jcoxon> where did you see henry and carl?
[19:28] <jcoxon> they still searching?
[19:28] <rocketboy> in cambridge - I droped by to pick up my stuff (table etc) in cambridge on the way back from london
[19:28] <jcoxon> oh cool
[19:29] <rocketboy> No I think theu have given up - apart from hoping it made land and someone will find it
[19:29] <rocketboy> still it was a good test of the radio
[19:29] <jcoxon> indeed it was
[19:29] <jcoxon> shame there was so much stuff onboard
[19:29] <rocketboy> henry has the baloon track to 25,000m from the Radio
[19:30] <rocketboy> yeah - a real bummer
[19:30] <jcoxon> the curse of the second launch
[19:30] <rocketboy> I was thinking that
[19:30] <rocketboy> P2 N2
[19:30] <jcoxon> RIP
[19:30] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:31] <jcoxon> there actually could be something in it though
[19:31] <rocketboy> I was thinking of singing "for those in peril on the sea"
[19:31] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:31] <jcoxon> the first launch is always a simple affair
[19:31] <jcoxon> however seems that the second launch is always overcomplicated and has a deadline
[19:32] <jcoxon> which means it launches in unfavourable conditions
[19:32] <jcoxon> teh first launch you launch when you are finally ready
[19:32] <rocketboy> yes I can see that
[19:33] <rocketboy> I ges the real failure was the cut-down
[19:33] <rocketboy> had that worked it would have been ok
[19:33] <jcoxon> indeed
[19:33] <jcoxon> damn cutdowns
[19:34] <rocketboy> I wonder if they have any idea what went wrong with it
[19:34] <rocketboy> I think the idea was tested quite well
[19:34] <jcoxon> not sure
[19:35] <rocketboy> I'm not sure if they tested it at that tempreture though
[19:35] <jcoxon> haven't actually heard anything since Ed texted me the last coordinates
[19:35] <rocketboy> have yuo still got them?
[19:36] <rocketboy> I'd be interested in working out the radio path length
[19:36] <jcoxon> yup
[19:36] <jcoxon> they are actually on the ukhas site
[19:36] <jcoxon> under nova 2
[19:36] <jcoxon> (not hte wiki)
[19:36] <rocketboy> ah oK ill look in a mo
[19:38] <jcoxon> invested in a multimeter today
[19:38] <jcoxon> so have begun to search for hte GPIO points
[19:40] <rocketboy> I bought 2 cheap (£5) digital multimeters the other day - only to find the 2 that I already had only had a minor problem (which is why I bought 2 more) which I fixed - now I have 4
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[19:41] <rocketboy> still I needed a working multimeter to fix the broken ones
[19:41] <rocketboy> hay ho
[19:42] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:43] <icez> that sure puts the MULTI in multimeter
[19:43] <icez> :]
[19:45] <rocketboy> still its always useful for measuring current and voltage at the same time
[19:45] <rocketboy> say - i was looking at model helicopter gyros last night - relativly easy to interface to
[19:46] <rocketboy> ideal for short term steering of glider - with long term correction being provided by the GPS
[19:47] <rocketboy> I'll put somthing about it on the wiki when I get a chance
[19:47] <rocketboy> I have asked Father Chistmas for one
[19:47] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:49] <jcoxon> yeah i've been thinking about gliders today
[19:49] <jcoxon> quite tempted by one
[19:49] <jcoxon> perhaps a ukhas combined attempt
[19:50] <rocketboy> actually thats not a bad idea - I have been impressed by what the NOVA team put together as a team
[19:51] <rocketboy> A glider is probaly easier that a paraglider - so its a good platform for learning about steering etc.
[19:51] <jcoxon> they do work well - they have quite a few meetings (well at least ones i'm invited to)
[19:52] <jcoxon> though i feel the henry certainly leads the way
[19:52] <jcoxon> what i was actually thinking was to make a ukhas team
[19:52] <jcoxon> and instead of building one glider
[19:52] <jcoxon> we build perhaps 2 identical systems
[19:52] <rocketboy> yeah - its interesting to see the team dynamic - henry is the "boffin" carl the project manager ...
[19:52] <jcoxon> so that we don't have to always be together - yet we share plans etc
[19:53] <jcoxon> cause actually a lot of the glider issues will be software etc
[19:54] <rocketboy> yeah there are a lot of problems to solve making 2 of somthing is normally only a little more work
[19:54] <jcoxon> exactly
[19:54] <jcoxon> and once the basis is done we have 2 to test
[19:55] <jcoxon> if 1 gets destroyed we don't have to start again
[19:55] <jcoxon> reminds me of the book/film contact where the secretly build a second machine as it isn't that much more work
[19:56] <rocketboy> one of may favorite films
[19:56] <jcoxon> i'm certainly interested in the glider
[19:57] <jcoxon> would you be interested in helping?
[19:57] <rocketboy> I need to understand more about flying a glider 1st
[19:57] <rocketboy> yeah - count me in
[19:58] <rocketboy> just calculated the path length on NOVA 2 as 140.5 km
[19:58] <jcoxon> pretty damn good
[19:59] <rocketboy> no bad on 10mW - and henry says he thinks it was astill a good copy - but the software froze
[19:59] <rocketboy> not
[19:59] <jcoxon> do you know what the acension rate was?
[20:00] <rocketboy> (they letf it running and went down the pub)
[20:00] <rocketboy> no at the mo - henry has promised the data shortly
[20:01] <jcoxon> cool
[20:01] <rocketboy> its a shame it didn't work until burst - I could have calculared a landing spot then
[20:02] <jcoxon> yeah - i'm wondering if the balloon was underfilled
[20:02] <jcoxon> or were the winds that fast
[20:04] <rocketboy> I don't think the baloon was underfilled - it was quite tought
[20:04] <rocketboy> the winds were quite fast circa 18knots
[20:04] <rocketboy> 80
[20:05] <rocketboy> 80knots
[20:05] <rocketboy> anyway - the data will tell all
[20:05] <jcoxon> indeed it will
[20:05] <jcoxon> is it possible for me to launch peg IV from the EARS site?
[20:06] <jcoxon> i'm actually on hte permission for churchill but as you offered i'd thought i'd take you up on it
[20:07] <rocketboy> no probs - except I havn't heard back from the CAA yet
[20:08] <jcoxon> oh right
[20:08] <jcoxon> well i'm no where near ready to launch
[20:08] <jcoxon> won't be till next year
[20:09] <rocketboy> Only 1 thing - on the CAA request I put that it would carry a radar reflector (as I think this is a good safety idea) - but I have a design I can make up - wich only weights like 50g
[20:09] <jcoxon> oh thats fine
[20:09] <jcoxon> i think its a good idea as well
[20:11] <rocketboy> I have asked for the 1st sunday in Jan and Feb - but EARS don't have a meeting in Jan/Feb (too cold for standing about all day in a field) - but that should be no pronblem - we would just have th site to ourselves
[20:11] <jcoxon> okay
[20:11] <jcoxon> well i will be ready for either
[20:11] <rocketboy> Jan and feb were good jetstream months this year
[20:13] <jcoxon> one sec i'll upload a picture of a radar reflector i saw in africa
[20:17] <jcoxon> http://www.pegasushabproject.org.uk/niger2006/05:08:06/P1010374.JPG
[20:18] <rocketboy> wow - they stole my idea!
[20:18] <rocketboy> are those aluminium tubes?
[20:19] <rocketboy> was the foil like space blanket?
[20:19] <rocketboy> looks about 2ft across
[20:20] <jcoxon> i actually think they were plastic
[20:20] <jcoxon> like kite rods
[20:20] <jcoxon> this one was quite big - 50cm across
[20:20] <rocketboy> ah ok - and the size?
[20:21] <rocketboy> OK
[20:22] <jcoxon> right got to go to a meeting about clinical school
[20:22] <jcoxon> bbl
[20:22] <rocketboy> cu
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