highaltitude.log.20060919

[00:01] <jcoxon> oh they've spent the week doing publicity
[00:03] <kc0wys> like calling all the media people they can think of? :P
[00:04] <jcoxon> well they need funding
[00:05] <jcoxon> they've got some big ideas
[00:06] <kc0wys> i'm not criticizing -- it's good for people to know
[00:06] <jcoxon> oh i know :-)
[00:07] <kc0wys> yeah speaking of the media
[00:07] <icez> doesn't the university support its projects too?:/
[00:07] <kc0wys> i got to school last wednesday to find a sky full of helicopters and half a dozen police vehicles on the front lawn
[00:07] <icez> :/
[00:07] <kc0wys> yeah school shooting
[00:07] <icez> outch
[00:08] <jcoxon> not good
[00:08] <kc0wys> it was all over the local news for a few days :/
[00:08] <icez> people are weird nowadays
[00:08] <icez> there was a shooting at a university in montreal/canada too
[00:08] <icez> 12 injured/1 dead
[00:09] <kc0wys> ya that was the same day, coincidentally
[00:09] <kc0wys> though the case at my school was just a suicide attempt, still
[00:09] <jcoxon> thats sounds horrible
[00:09] <kc0wys> an officer had to shoot the student in the leg because he refused to drop the rifle
[00:10] <kc0wys> yeah canada doesnt see too much of that...
[00:10] <icez> just depends on how the people see things
[00:11] <icez> with all the restrictions everywhere everyone is going crazy for little things too
[00:11] <icez> like shampoo on an airplane:/
[00:11] <jcoxon> i flew on the weekend
[00:12] <jcoxon> such a hassle the security
[00:12] <kc0wys> honestly, i'd rather go without shampoo than have another plane fly into a building
[00:12] <jcoxon> but i guess its necessary
[00:12] <icez> yeah
[00:12] <icez> i don't mind either..
[00:12] <icez> but it makes people crazy sometimes:)
[00:12] <kc0wys> yea
[00:12] <icez> and maybe even a little prejudice toward 'some other people'
[00:16] <jcoxon> i'm taking another break from ballooning :-(
[00:26] <kc0wys> i guess you could say i'm returning from a break...
[00:27] <jcoxon> hows E-2 going?
[00:27] <kc0wys> i'm limited to weekends only though, which really slows the process down
[00:27] <kc0wys> good, so far
[00:27] <kc0wys> i finished the payload structure over the weekend
[00:27] <kc0wys> my mom came running upstairs "you're burning the house down!!" :P
[00:27] <icez> :/
[00:28] <icez> i used to get those kind of remarks when i was a little younger
[00:28] <kc0wys> yeah just gotta live with it...
[00:28] <icez> in the days of making little houses out of cardboard refrigerator boxes
[00:29] <kc0wys> hehe
[00:43] <jcoxon> right i'm off to bed
[00:43] <jcoxon> night all
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[09:17] <jcoxon> morning all
[09:17] <jcoxon> The Nova launch has got in to the Times
[09:31] <defy> hey :) wow cool
[09:34] <jcoxon> yeah
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[18:58] <rocketboy> Guys - NOVA1 has been reported in The Guardian, The Times, BBCOnline, Metro Magazine and "The Register" recently - way 2 go CU
[18:59] <jcoxon> :-)
[18:59] <jcoxon> its v. impressive
[18:59] <icez> the times as in the NY Times?
[18:59] <rocketboy> no the UK The times
[18:59] <icez> aah
[18:59] <icez> :P
[18:59] <icez> still impressive :P
[19:00] <rocketboy> actually I was impressed by the whole thing - it went very smoothly & 2 plan
[19:00] <jcoxon> yup
[19:00] <jcoxon> nice to see it moving forward
[19:01] <rocketboy> apart from the downlink packing up :-(
[19:01] <icez> :D
[19:01] <icez> well
[19:01] <icez> even the big agencies that go in space have problems sometimes
[19:02] <rocketboy> or comming back
[19:04] <jcoxon> rocketboy, you know i said i'd be ready in october when i'm not going to be
[19:04] <jcoxon> i'm going to have to slow down pegasus IV a bit
[19:04] <jcoxon> when-> well
[19:05] <icez> is there a way to detect when a balloon bursts?
[19:05] <rocketboy> no probs - I'm not as far forward as I'd like myself - I really don't know when I'll be ready
[19:05] <jcoxon> i've realised i've got to do some uni work first
[19:06] <jcoxon> reckon i'm going to wait untill the christmas holidays till i do more
[19:06] <jcoxon> actually leave my soldering iron at home !
[19:06] <rocketboy> icez - I'd say a simple swich held on by the weight of the payload agianst the baloon would tell you (before the chute kicks in)
[19:07] <rocketboy> humm - is the jetstream better/worse at certain points in the year?
[19:07] <phatmonkey> jcoxon, ditto
[19:07] <phatmonkey> i have absolutely no time
[19:07] <phatmonkey> 5 A levels is pretty intense
[19:07] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, pah its do able :-p i did it!
[19:08] <jcoxon> rocketboy, probably
[19:08] <rocketboy> i'm just worried about HABing in the winter
[19:08] <phatmonkey> i'll scrap the charity event for now too - maybe when i have time in the holidays to prepare it
[19:08] <jcoxon> however as we wait for particular conditions it shouldn't matter
[19:08] <jcoxon> so say we only launch when the jetstream is lower then x knots
[19:08] <jcoxon> its the same for the summer as well
[19:09] <jcoxon> though the summer has more high pressures which lend themselves to favourable conditions
[19:09] <rocketboy> I think there is an jet-stream archive - i'll see if I can produce a years animated gif
[19:09] <rocketboy> or avi or mpeg
[19:09] <jcoxon> well i think its time to watch CU space flight shine
[19:11] <rocketboy> if its balloon launch rockets - I think they have few hirdles to get over 1st
[19:11] <jcoxon> hehe definitly
[19:11] <jcoxon> it certainly won't be done in hte UK
[19:12] <rocketboy> yeah - not leagally anyways
[19:12] <phatmonkey> i want to get at least something up soon though - mentioning sending stuff up to the edge of space with cambridge students would certainly help my chances of a decent uni place!
[19:12] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, hehe - 5 As will certinaly help as well!
[19:13] <phatmonkey> yeah
[19:13] <rocketboy> I'm soooooooooooo glad all that is behind me
[19:13] <jcoxon> rocketboy, same :-p
[19:14] <jcoxon> haha, theres me saying i'm going to spend less time doing HAB and i'm at hte moment building a ROV for the pond
[19:15] <jcoxon> out of scrap/junk
[19:15] <rocketboy> we contenplated that for the rocket club - someone lost a large rocket in the farmers lake
[19:15] <jcoxon> well i'll tell you how it goes
[19:15] <jcoxon> perhaps you can borrow it
[19:15] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:15] <jcoxon> its really tacky
[19:15] <phatmonkey> crazy hacky projects are always best
[19:16] <rocketboy> did you see the ICE sub in Henry/Carl's lab
[19:16] <jcoxon> damn water is an issue
[19:16] <jcoxon> rocketboy, yup
[19:17] <rocketboy> looked the biz - shame it wasn't finished
[19:18] <jcoxon> it shows how much commitment is really required
[19:18] <jcoxon> and i think Henry/Carl/Robert have that
[19:18] <rocketboy> yeah
[19:19] <rocketboy> still I need to think of somthing to upstage them
[19:20] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:20] <jcoxon> without your radio they wouldn't be anywhere ;-p
[19:21] <rocketboy> I don't know about that - its more of a comfort tool really
[19:22] <rocketboy> a steerable return craft is needed
[19:24] <rocketboy> hey ho - I'm off to the workshop - BBL
[19:24] <jcoxon> right well i'm off as well
[19:24] <jcoxon> speak to you all later
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[21:03] <ninjatuna> ping
[21:03] <ninjatuna> pong
[22:03] <Weiss> wibble
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[22:18] <a1fa> yo yo
[22:18] <a1fa> can somebody recommend a cheap gps
[22:18] <a1fa> that only jots down log/lat
[22:18] <a1fa> into a log file
[22:18] <a1fa> preferably usb
[22:20] <icez> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8212/
[22:20] <icez> maybe that could help]
[22:20] <icez> ]wow
[22:20] <icez> forget that
[22:21] <icez> wayy too expensive
[22:21] <ninjatuna> lol
[22:22] <ninjatuna> theres ones on ebay for £30 ish gbp
[22:22] <icez> i have a cheap one but i can't find it (i just woke up:/)
[22:26] <a1fa> ninjatuna : what is this device called
[22:27] <a1fa> gps logger
[22:29] <ninjatuna> there are lots of them, some for 25 lol
[22:29] <ninjatuna> just type usb gps
[22:31] <icez> they have travel gps loggers too if you really don't care about altitude
[22:33] <a1fa> thats a reciever
[22:33] <a1fa> i need a stand alone
[22:33] <icez> ?!
[22:34] <a1fa> i need a stand alone unit
[22:34] <a1fa> thats gps trackstick is cool
[22:34] <a1fa> but $$$
[22:34] <icez> yeah..
[22:35] <icez> cool stuff is always $$$:)
[22:35] <a1fa> i'd rather buy gumstix
[22:35] <a1fa> and expand it
[22:42] <defy> gumstix make a gps modu;le
[22:42] <defy> module*
[22:49] <defy> but for the price of a gumstix+gpsstix, you could get a handheld :P
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[22:53] <jcoxon> heya all
[22:53] <jcoxon> wow 12 people
[22:53] <defy> hey :)
[22:53] <Weiss> evening
[22:57] <jcoxon> has anyone seen the book published by parallax about HAB?
[22:57] <jcoxon> its got a interesting section of further ideas after the basic payload
[23:02] <rocketboy> for example?
[23:05] <jcoxon> things like dust sampling after volcanic eruptions
[23:06] <a1fa> like flying monkeys
[23:06] <jcoxon> and those
[23:06] <a1fa> see what happens to a monkey HAB
[23:07] <jcoxon> you get arrested :-p
[23:07] <defy> lol
[23:08] <a1fa> no
[23:08] <a1fa> you dont
[23:08] <a1fa> i can launch an ant up in HAB
[23:08] <a1fa> no body would ever find out
[23:09] <defy> monkeys and ants are quite different :P
[23:09] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:09] <jcoxon> but that would be an Ant HAB not a monkey HAB
[23:11] <jcoxon> here it is
[23:11] <jcoxon> http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_nearspace.asp
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