highaltitude.log.20060707

[00:07] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, any success?
[00:08] <phatmonkey> ah yes, finished uploading
[00:08] <jcoxon> oh i forgot serial connections were slow :-D
[00:08] <phatmonkey> yeah...
[00:08] <phatmonkey> erasing the flash
[00:09] <phatmonkey> writing the image...
[00:17] <rocketboy> c u guys
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[00:20] <phatmonkey> oh wait, done
[00:20] <phatmonkey> booting......
[00:21] Action: jcoxon cross his fingers
[00:22] <phatmonkey> wrong device, it's probably 1f02
[00:23] <jcoxon> :-D
[00:23] <jcoxon> that always catches me out
[00:24] <icez> :F
[00:25] <phatmonkey> it's not changing to 1f02...
[00:25] <phatmonkey> set bootargs console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=1f02 rootfstype=jffs2
[00:25] <phatmonkey> saveenv
[00:25] <phatmonkey> writing to flash... blah blah
[00:25] <phatmonkey> boot
[00:25] <phatmonkey> still tries 1f01
[00:26] <phatmonkey> i need some sleep
[00:26] <phatmonkey> i'll finish the battle... sometime
[00:26] <jcoxon> :-)
[00:26] <jcoxon> patience!
[00:26] <icez> you can do it!
[00:26] <phatmonkey> busy tomorrow and over the weekend
[00:26] <icez> :)
[00:26] <jcoxon> you'll find time
[00:26] <jcoxon> don't worry
[00:26] <jcoxon> i'm around all next week - I'll have a think
[00:26] <jcoxon> but don't give up on it yet
[00:27] <jcoxon> i shall consult the *new* wiki
[00:27] <icez> think about all of what people went through to try to fly...
[00:27] <icez> :P
[00:28] <phatmonkey> i won't give up, but it would be nice to get some code running on this thing
[00:28] <phatmonkey> it isn't like i have endless time over the summer holidays...!
[00:28] <phatmonkey> once i'm back to school i'll probably have very little time to do this
[00:29] <icez> university?
[00:29] <phatmonkey> just school...
[00:29] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, i'll boot my gumstix tomorrow morning and see what my bootargs are
[00:29] <phatmonkey> i'm a youngun
[00:29] <phatmonkey> ok
[00:29] <phatmonkey> weird, it worked fine before!
[00:29] <phatmonkey> don't know why it's not changed that thang
[00:29] <jcoxon> it might be that uboot
[00:30] <jcoxon> never actually reflashed uboot before
[00:30] <jcoxon> right i'm off
[00:30] <jcoxon> night all
[00:30] <phatmonkey> i haven't reflashed uboot...
[00:30] <phatmonkey> me too, night
[00:30] <jcoxon> don't
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[12:27] <jcoxon> hey phatmonkey
[12:27] <jcoxon> you've been busy on the wiki!
[12:27] <phatmonkey> hey
[12:27] <phatmonkey> yeah...
[12:27] <phatmonkey> not sure what to do about this gumstix nows
[12:27] <phatmonkey> now
[12:27] <phatmonkey> sort of hit a brick wall
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[12:28] <jcoxon> hmmmm you sort of haven't really
[12:28] <jcoxon> it still works with the factory images
[12:28] <phatmonkey> yeah
[12:28] <phatmonkey> shall i try a factory image again?
[12:28] <jcoxon> if i was you
[12:28] <phatmonkey> never know, i might have mucked up some boot this in uboot
[12:28] <jcoxon> okay
[12:28] <jcoxon> but also i'd delete all of the buildroot
[12:28] <phatmonkey> just about to go out, hm
[12:29] <phatmonkey> yeah
[12:29] <jcoxon> and pull new one off svn
[12:29] <jcoxon> and start again
[12:29] <phatmonkey> apply that patch whatshisname had
[12:29] <jcoxon> make no changes at all
[12:29] <phatmonkey> yeah
[12:29] <phatmonkey> I might doi that...
[12:29] <phatmonkey> the only changes i made were to fix that bug, so i dunno
[12:29] <jcoxon> i reckon the main issue is that you've by mistake made a small change
[12:30] <phatmonkey> yeah
[12:30] <phatmonkey> but unless i fix that include path issue it doesn't compile!
[12:30] <jcoxon> perhaps take the weekend off (thats what i do when things don't work)
[12:30] <phatmonkey> well, i'll use that patch he has anyway
[12:30] <phatmonkey> yeah
[12:30] <jcoxon> its an ubuntu issue
[12:30] <phatmonkey> i just really don't have that much time...
[12:30] <jcoxon> i seem to remember i had the same issue
[12:30] <jcoxon> it'll all flow nicely when its working :-D
[12:30] <phatmonkey> hmm, i might build it on a debian machine then
[12:31] <jcoxon> with a up to date setup
[12:31] <phatmonkey> i'll do that
[12:31] <jcoxon> and a working issue its jsut a matter of compiling and moveing binaries
[12:31] <jcoxon> issue -> image
[12:33] <phatmonkey> hokay, checking out the buildroot on a debian machine
[12:39] <phatmonkey> building
[12:44] <phatmonkey> hasn't died yet...
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[13:25] <phatmonkey> holy crap
[13:25] <phatmonkey> it worked straight off
[13:25] <phatmonkey> niiice
[13:27] <phatmonkey> uploading
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[13:53] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:15] <macfreak4> hi
[14:31] <phatmonkey> noop, not booting
[14:31] <phatmonkey> VFS: Cannot open root device "1f01" or unknown-block(31,1)
[14:31] <phatmonkey> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[14:31] <phatmonkey> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,1)
[14:31] <phatmonkey> i can't be arsed to try the default images, they're probably not going to work anymore
[14:31] <phatmonkey> i guess there's something up with uboot
[14:36] <jcoxon> the thing is that the default images do work
[14:36] <jcoxon> as they use the old system
[14:36] <phatmonkey> i dont't know if they do
[14:36] <jcoxon> the problem was that there was a change
[14:36] <phatmonkey> i tried them a while ago
[14:36] <jcoxon> with the new kernel
[14:36] <phatmonkey> you mean 1f02 => 1f01?
[14:37] <jcoxon> yup
[14:37] <phatmonkey> i've changed that though!
[14:37] <jcoxon> the factory images have the older kernel
[14:37] <phatmonkey> it's trying to boot up off 1f01, but nothing is there!
[14:37] <jcoxon> my image i sent you didn't boot did it
[14:37] <phatmonkey> i believe i had an extra argument on bootargs
[14:37] <phatmonkey> nope
[14:37] <phatmonkey> can you printenv on yours?
[14:37] <phatmonkey> that might be the problem...
[14:38] <jcoxon> yeah give me a minute of so
[14:38] <phatmonkey> ta
[14:44] <jcoxon> bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200n8 root=1f01 rootfstype=jffs2 reboot=cold,hard
[14:44] <phatmonkey> reboot=cold,hard
[14:44] <phatmonkey> that's the thing i left out, thanks
[14:45] <jcoxon> hmmm i'm not sure if thats important at all
[14:45] <phatmonkey> yeah, exactly
[14:49] <phatmonkey> holy crap
[14:49] <phatmonkey> i guess it's more important than i thought... it's mounted the FS
[14:50] <phatmonkey> oh wait, it's not dead
[14:50] <phatmonkey> D:
[14:50] <jcoxon> yay
[14:50] <jcoxon> finally
[14:50] <phatmonkey> Welcome to the Gumstix Linux Distribution!
[14:50] <phatmonkey> gumstix login:
[14:50] <phatmonkey> ......
[14:50] <phatmonkey> it was that one argument all along
[14:50] <phatmonkey> bloody hell
[14:50] <jcoxon> better added it to the wiki
[14:50] <phatmonkey> i need to go and grab some food, bbiab
[14:50] <jcoxon> i'll add it now
[14:50] <phatmonkey> yes, all the tutorials don't have that
[14:50] <phatmonkey> *very* weird
[14:51] <jcoxon> i've found so emails relating to it
[14:51] <jcoxon> and people struggling to boot
[14:56] <jcoxon> glad its all sorted
[14:56] <jcoxon> bbl
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[15:59] <jcoxon> hey all
[16:10] <phatmonkey> hey
[16:10] <phatmonkey> hokay, quick question
[16:10] <phatmonkey> i want to add another piece of software from the buildroot, is there a dumbass easy way to do that?
[16:10] <phatmonkey> i believe it includes extra libraries
[16:12] <jcoxon> what software is it??
[16:13] <phatmonkey> uisp
[16:13] <phatmonkey> i've found a binary for it actually
[16:13] <phatmonkey> hmm, does coreutils replace busybox?
[16:13] <phatmonkey> i'm sick to death of busybox, euch
[16:13] <jcoxon> i like busybox :-)
[16:13] <jcoxon> so have you got the buildroot to compile usip for you?
[16:15] <phatmonkey> nope, found a binary on the net :)
[16:15] <phatmonkey> [root@gumstix rs]# uisp
[16:15] <phatmonkey> Atmel AVR ATmega128 is found.
[16:15] <phatmonkey> [root@gumstix rs]#
[16:15] <phatmonkey> yay
[16:16] <phatmonkey> but is there a simple way to add software?
[16:16] <phatmonkey> make [package]
[16:16] <phatmonkey> then do i have to manually find all the files and copy them over?
[16:16] <jcoxon> yeah thats the way i do it
[16:16] <phatmonkey> there really needs to be a simpler way...
[16:17] <phatmonkey> ooh http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/software/
[16:17] <jcoxon> i don't think there needs to be
[16:17] <phatmonkey> is that gnokii for the gumstix?
[16:17] <jcoxon> don't use those binaries!
[16:17] <jcoxon> they are for an old version of uclibc
[16:18] <phatmonkey> mkay
[16:18] <jcoxon> but
[16:18] <jcoxon> i'll put up my newer binaries later on
[16:18] <jcoxon> i'm not in my room right now
[16:18] <phatmonkey> how did you compile it? just from the gnokii sources
[16:18] <phatmonkey> ok
[16:18] <jcoxon> gnokii is a cow to compile
[16:19] <jcoxon> well it probably isnt't but i end up making it hard for myself
[16:20] <phatmonkey> hehe
[16:20] <phatmonkey> i do that a lot
[16:21] <jcoxon> i'm glad that your gumstix is working
[16:21] <jcoxon> now it gets easy!
[16:26] <jcoxon> bbl
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[17:26] <phatmonkey> hey james
[17:26] <phatmonkey> the buildroot is friggin useless
[17:27] <phatmonkey> i run menuconfig on the kernel to enable the i2c stuff, copy the config, compile it, copy over the new stuff
[17:27] <phatmonkey> and now the kernel won't boot
[17:27] <phatmonkey> i couldn't follow the documentation exactly because it's so out of date
[17:28] <phatmonkey> >:(
[17:28] <jcoxon> copy the config?
[17:28] <phatmonkey> sigh, i'll just ask on the mailing list again
[17:28] <phatmonkey> http://www.gumstix.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=I2CQuickstart
[17:29] <jcoxon> did you make modules or included them in the kernel?
[17:29] <jcoxon> surely it would be so much easier to make modules
[17:29] <phatmonkey> made modules, yes
[17:29] <phatmonkey> but none of the modules worked, so i copied over the kernel
[17:29] <phatmonkey> i'm sick to death of this
[17:29] <jcoxon> in what way did the modules not work?
[17:29] <phatmonkey> the slug "just worked"
[17:30] <phatmonkey> segmentation faults
[17:30] <phatmonkey> i'm guessing stuff was built into the kernel
[17:30] <jcoxon> give me a minute
[17:30] <phatmonkey> twould be nice if they actually provided stuff for the kernel that is available
[17:31] <phatmonkey> providing binaries for 2.6.15 is pretty useless when 2.6.17 is in the buildroot!
[17:31] <jcoxon> but thats the issue with having so many differnet possible add ons
[17:31] <jcoxon> while the slugs hardware doesn't change gumstixs does
[17:31] <jcoxon> like windows and mac hardware issues
[17:32] <phatmonkey> when i buy something like this i really expect everything to work, and stuff to be available
[17:32] <jcoxon> nah i don't see it that way at all
[17:32] <phatmonkey> they're obviously pitching at professionals (looking at some of their pages on gumstix.com) and this dodgy community provided stuff really doesn't cut it
[17:33] <phatmonkey> i love open source communities and all, but none of this stuff is documented properly or works without hassle
[17:34] <phatmonkey> or maybe i'm just overly stressed because one of my servers has died :D
[17:34] <jcoxon> hehe
[17:34] <phatmonkey> spose i should leave it for the weekend
[17:34] <jcoxon> stop juggling issues
[17:34] <jcoxon> :-D
[17:35] <jcoxon> if i was you I'd reflash the gumstix to the image you were using so that it works and then leave it
[17:35] <jcoxon> for a weekend or so especially if you are busy
[17:35] <phatmonkey> ... i need i2c!
[17:35] <phatmonkey> spose i could leave it for the weekend and hope somebody has built some i2c modules for .17...
[17:36] <phatmonkey> or i could just ask on the mailing list for some, tee hee
[17:36] <jcoxon> i'll whip out some modules if you want
[17:36] <phatmonkey> ... or i could go back to a 2.6.15 revision and use all the precompiled stuff!
[17:36] <jcoxon> i still use .15
[17:36] <phatmonkey> tis probably a good idea
[17:36] <jcoxon> feel its best to not use cutting edge
[17:37] <phatmonkey> what revisions use .15?
[17:37] <jcoxon> i'v'e got 1003
[17:37] <phatmonkey> i shall try that
[17:37] <jcoxon> nice idea if we both have the same revision
[17:37] <phatmonkey> then i can use all the binaries, that'll be great
[17:37] <phatmonkey> yeah
[17:38] <jcoxon> ben - the advantages of the gumstix is in its flexibility - it will cause hassle but its usually solvable
[17:38] <jcoxon> probably not hte best thing to use if you have a deadline :-d
[17:38] <phatmonkey> aahh well
[17:39] <phatmonkey> a day of tweaking isn't ht end of the world
[17:39] <phatmonkey> anywho, at least i can use the binaries if i have .15
[17:39] <phatmonkey> that's been causing the most trouble
[17:39] <jcoxon> :-D
[17:39] <jcoxon> avoid the bleeding edge methinks
[17:39] <jcoxon> let other people stumble along and solve the problems
[17:40] <phatmonkey> rm -rf gumstix-buildroot
[17:40] <jcoxon> hehe
[17:40] <phatmonkey> aaah, deleting loads of stuff feels so good
[17:40] <jcoxon> i've never actually seen a good crosscompiling situation
[17:42] <phatmonkey> compiling the buildroot on debian is very smooth
[17:42] <jcoxon> it could well be what craig works on :-D
[17:44] <phatmonkey> ok, checking out 1003
[17:45] <phatmonkey> hmm, how do i avoid busybox
[17:45] <phatmonkey> faar too cut down for me
[17:45] <jcoxon> you seriously can't
[17:45] <phatmonkey> mkay
[17:45] <jcoxon> well you could seperately compile the different components
[17:46] <jcoxon> but remember the system was designed for 4mb of flash
[17:46] <phatmonkey> yeah
[17:48] <jcoxon> hmmm how odd - my libintl.h wasn't working
[17:49] <phatmonkey> hokay, making *again*
[17:54] <jcoxon> right well i've got some .15 modules now for i2c
[18:01] <phatmonkey> there are binaries available in a tarball
[18:02] <jcoxon> i like compiling things :-p
[18:02] <jcoxon> not that i have i2c
[18:02] <phatmonkey> :D
[18:02] <phatmonkey> the hardest, most complicated way is always the best way
[18:04] <jcoxon> exactly
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[18:36] <phatmonkey> crap
[18:37] <phatmonkey> jcoxon, there seems to be a udhcp bug in this revision
[18:37] <phatmonkey> dhcpd.c:100: error: `VERSION' undeclared (first use in this function)
[18:37] <phatmonkey> i tried fixing this before, and failed miserably
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[18:46] <phatmonkey> there's a bunch of stuff in the mailing list
[18:47] <phatmonkey> ah, there is one built into busybox
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[18:53] <jcoxon> pah i don't like dhcp
[18:54] <jcoxon> is it working?
[19:06] <phatmonkey> yay, just finished
[19:06] <phatmonkey> one sec, threading tubes out of my window (don't ask :P)
[19:09] <jcoxon> i won't
[19:10] <jcoxon> i'll be back and forth for a bit (cooking supper)
[19:12] <phatmonkey> okay
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[20:00] <jcoxon> bbl
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[21:56] <macfreak4> damn this is a dirty attic :P
[21:56] <macfreak4> cleaning out to move is not fun
[22:30] <icez> that's why they invented dynamite
[22:30] <icez> :D
[22:34] <Tiger^> and then they saw my room
[22:34] <Tiger^> and that's how Comp-B came to be.
[22:34] <Tiger^> ;>
[22:40] <phatmonkey> mess is goooo
[22:40] <phatmonkey> d
[22:41] <phatmonkey> you should see my room.. planes, computers and tools from floor to ceiling
[22:41] <phatmonkey> :D
[22:42] <Tiger^> ;)
[22:52] <macfreak4> oh i certainly agree, mess is good, except when you want to move ;)
[22:52] <macfreak4> or have to move
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