highaltitude.log.20060627

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[05:46] <defy> hey :)
[05:48] <macfreak4> hey
[05:48] <defy> hows it going
[05:48] <macfreak4> eh ok
[05:49] <macfreak4> the launch is delayed again
[05:49] <macfreak4> programming problems
[05:49] <macfreak4> :(
[05:49] <defy> doh =/
[05:57] <defy> I'm heading off to america next week and thinking about bringing my flight computer on the plane trip with me so I can log it
[05:57] <defy> 12 hours worth though =/
[05:58] <macfreak4> oh nice
[05:58] <macfreak4> just btw
[06:00] <macfreak4> i brought along a garmin handheld gps receiver on a flight a week ago from new mexico
[06:00] <macfreak4> and couldn't receive a fix the whole flight
[06:00] <macfreak4> :(
[06:00] <defy> did you try get the fix before you took off?
[06:00] <macfreak4> sitting in the plane? yes
[06:00] <defy> were you next to a window?
[06:00] <defy> I've gotten a gps fix at 32,000 feet while moving, but it was only a 2d fix and i had to hold the gps right up to the window
[06:00] <defy> i have a screenshot somewher.e..
[06:00] <defy> http://defy.net/gallery/orig_sac_to_la.jpg
[06:01] <defy> oh that was only 21,000 feet
[06:08] <macfreak4> oh well i couldnt get a fix no matter what
[06:08] <macfreak4> but i suppose it all depends on the antenna gain
[06:08] <macfreak4> you might have a better antenna than my handheld's built-in unit
[06:09] <macfreak4> oh street atlat usa
[06:09] <macfreak4> that's what i'm using, too ;)
[06:09] <defy> yea that was just with an old serial earthmate
[06:12] <macfreak4> well it's after midnight here
[06:12] <macfreak4> i'm sleepy
[06:13] <macfreak4> so i think i'll doze off now
[06:13] <macfreak4> cya
[06:13] <defy> hehe cya
[06:13] <macfreak4> alright catch you later...
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[17:53] <Narrator> re
[17:57] <macfreak4> hey
[17:58] <Narrator> hi macfreak
[17:58] <macfreak4> is this your first time on the channel?
[17:58] <Narrator> yes
[17:58] <Narrator> i think so:)
[17:58] <macfreak4> ah ok
[17:59] <macfreak4> are you doing some high altitude ballooning, or just looking around?
[17:59] <Narrator> nope
[18:00] <Narrator> long time ago i was a member of small group
[18:00] <Narrator> they make some baloon development
[18:00] <Narrator> do you know that site: www.jpaerospace.com
[18:00] <Narrator> ?
[18:16] <macfreak4> never been there
[18:18] <macfreak4> hmm
[18:18] <macfreak4> just looked at this animation they've got on that site
[18:19] <Narrator> we try to make somethig similar in poland
[18:20] <Narrator> but it was a very simple
[18:20] <macfreak4> "combination buoyancy and aerodynamic lift to fly"
[18:20] <macfreak4> wtf
[18:20] <Narrator> well
[18:20] <macfreak4> so it's a balloon-plane
[18:20] <macfreak4> or what?
[18:21] <Narrator> they try to join rockets and baloon;-)(
[18:21] <macfreak4> "driven by propellers designed to operate in a near vacuum"
[18:21] <macfreak4> if there's no air, then no propeller, no matter how it's designed, will work
[18:21] <Narrator> http://www.jpaerospace.com/ascender175.html
[18:22] <Narrator> they had worked for DoD
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[18:30] <jcoxon> hey all
[18:35] <macfreak4> hey!
[18:36] <macfreak4> bad news
[18:36] <macfreak4> my flight's been delayed again
[18:36] <macfreak4> programming issues...
[18:36] <jcoxon> oh
[18:37] <jcoxon> you'll get up there soon
[18:37] <macfreak4> i hope...
[18:37] <macfreak4> it's annying how long this is taking
[18:37] <jcoxon> best not to hurry!
[18:37] <macfreak4> ya
[18:38] Action: Tiger^ was in a hurry and succeeded :P
[18:38] <jcoxon> hehe
[18:38] Action: macfreak4 doesn't have such luck
[18:38] <macfreak4> 4 me, hurry means Windows 98
[18:38] <macfreak4> and Windows 98 means death to balloon
[18:38] <Tiger^> yeah
[18:38] <macfreak4> :P
[18:38] <Tiger^> that's true.
[18:39] <macfreak4> I'm trying to get linux going
[18:39] <macfreak4> but it's hard
[18:39] <Tiger^> like i told ya, a bluescreen in mid air
[18:39] <Tiger^> a first for near space program
[18:39] <Tiger^> ;>
[18:39] <macfreak4> ya
[18:39] <macfreak4> haha
[18:39] <macfreak4> that would suck so bad
[18:40] <macfreak4> the problem is
[18:40] <macfreak4> i'm more exited about the next launch than this one
[18:40] <macfreak4> i don't know why
[18:40] <macfreak4> it's weird
[18:40] <macfreak4> :P
[18:40] <Tiger^> no it's not
[18:40] <Tiger^> same for me
[18:40] <macfreak4> oh really?
[18:41] <Tiger^> yup.
[18:41] <Tiger^> i mean, it was perfect
[18:41] <Tiger^> but in a way this was just a test flight
[18:41] <Tiger^> before the second one :)
[18:41] <macfreak4> ya that's my mentality right now
[18:41] <macfreak4> the next launch is going to have a *purpose*
[18:42] <macfreak4> this one, just a "can i do it" thing
[18:42] <Tiger^> right
[18:42] <Tiger^> even if it fails it doesn't mean you can't
[18:42] <Tiger^> a guy from KNSP with 40+ successful flights told me his first launch was a total failure
[18:43] <macfreak4> oh :/
[18:43] <jcoxon> Tiger^, whats the plan for your next flight?
[18:44] <Tiger^> basically it'll be a Linux flight
[18:45] <Tiger^> i mean, with a Linux device as the flight comp
[18:45] <Tiger^> and more advanced cameras
[18:45] <jcoxon> cool
[18:45] <jcoxon> good old linux
[18:46] <Tiger^> i'm starting to consider gumstix as an option :P
[18:46] <jcoxon> it seems to becoming the high altitude option
[18:46] <Tiger^> hehe
[18:46] <Tiger^> it's small and light
[18:47] <macfreak4> i'm the only one :'(
[18:47] <jcoxon> now that phatmonkey is moving away from slug to a gumstix
[18:47] <Tiger^> hey! i haven't decided yet :P
[18:47] <macfreak4> hey did u see the graphic i made?
[18:47] <macfreak4> lol
[18:47] <macfreak4> here hold on...
[18:48] <jcoxon> yup
[18:48] <jcoxon> its on flickr
[18:48] <macfreak4> o kk
[18:48] <Tiger^> right now i'm thinking about soekris
[18:48] <macfreak4> phatmonkey thought it was funny
[18:48] <macfreak4> :P
[18:48] <Tiger^> jcoxon: how many serial ports does the gumstix have?
[18:48] <Tiger^> oh
[18:49] <Tiger^> gumstix site is up at last
[18:49] <Tiger^> yay!
[18:49] <jcoxon> up to 4
[18:49] <macfreak4> wow ukhas changed
[18:49] <jcoxon> hehe
[18:49] <jcoxon> i changed it
[18:49] <jcoxon> better?
[18:49] <macfreak4> ya!
[18:49] <macfreak4> definitely
[18:51] <Tiger^> Operating temperatures: Commercial temperatures (est'd: 5C to 30C )
[18:51] <Tiger^> hmmm
[18:52] <Tiger^> not so good
[18:56] <Tiger^> naah i don't like the gumstix approach.
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[18:58] <jcoxon> hehe i've never had a problem :-D
[18:58] <jcoxon> hey just haven't tested it at low temps
[19:00] <Tiger^> yeah
[19:00] <Tiger^> you have the connex 200, don't you?
[19:00] <Tiger^> for peg 3
[19:03] <jcoxon> yup
[19:03] <jcoxon> 200xm
[19:04] <Tiger^> and it's got no ports, right?
[19:04] <Tiger^> just the 60pin bus and the 92pin bus
[19:05] <Tiger^> and you have to get expansion boards
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[19:23] <macfreak4> o hey tiger
[19:23] <macfreak4> i have the spreadsheet on my site now
[19:23] <macfreak4> so you can link to it on your site if you want
[19:24] <icez> spreadsheet for?
[19:24] <macfreak4> helium calculations
[19:27] <Tiger^> macfreak4: ok, what's the url?
[19:27] <macfreak4> i'll bring it up h/o...
[19:27] <macfreak4> http://macfreak4.homeunix.com/projects/ensure/Helium%20Calculations.xls
[19:27] <Tiger^> ok
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[19:28] <Narrator> re
[19:28] <Narrator> hi Tiger
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[22:38] <defy--> hey guys
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