highaltitude.log.20060623

[00:37] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[00:37] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude.
[01:58] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[01:58] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude.
[03:34] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
[03:52] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude.
[05:13] defy (n=defy@60-234-234-98.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #highaltitude.
[06:16] borism (n=boris@tor/session/external/x-130a38232d5641a3) got netsplit.
[06:16] Tiger^ (i=tygrys@tangerine.dream.art.pl) got netsplit.
[06:17] borism (n=boris@tor/session/external/x-130a38232d5641a3) returned to #highaltitude.
[06:17] Tiger^ (i=tygrys@tangerine.dream.art.pl) returned to #highaltitude.
[08:11] icez (n=icez@ip68-3-56-121.ph.ph.cox.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[08:47] jcoxon (n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[08:48] <defy> hey
[08:48] <defy> getting close to the launch date now?
[08:50] <jcoxon> yes/no
[08:50] <jcoxon> payload is ready
[08:51] <jcoxon> however we are having insurance issues
[08:51] <jcoxon> so have delayed a week
[08:51] <defy> ick
[08:51] <defy> did you end up getting your aerocomm modules?
[08:51] <jcoxon> which is good cause the weather is a lot better
[08:51] <jcoxon> then
[08:51] <jcoxon> yeah i have the aerocomm modules
[08:51] <jcoxon> and they work well
[08:51] <defy> awesome
[08:51] <jcoxon> however I'm now probably not going to use them as i'm not allowed :(
[08:52] <defy> really? were they the 800mhz ones?
[08:52] <jcoxon> 868
[08:52] <jcoxon> will be back in 5 mins
[08:52] <defy> cool
[09:07] <jcoxon> back
[09:07] <jcoxon> :)
[09:08] <jcoxon> the flood of people to my website has finally stopped
[09:16] <defy> lol how did that happen
[09:36] <jcoxon> flickr, Digg and make blog
[09:36] <defy> sweet
[09:51] jcoxon (n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk) left irc: "Leaving"
[12:01] defy (n=defy@60-234-234-98.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[14:22] malgar (n=malgar@adsl-ull-95-239.47-151.net24.it) joined #highaltitude.
[15:13] phatmonkey (n=phatmonk@150.121.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined #highaltitude.
[15:47] <macfreak4> hey
[15:53] <macfreak4> i hate debian already
[16:01] <macfreak4> partitioning keeps failing
[16:01] <macfreak4> AAAAAAAAH
[16:13] jcoxon (n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[16:18] <macfreak4> heya
[16:23] <jcoxon> hey ma
[16:23] <jcoxon> macfreak4,
[16:23] <jcoxon> oops silly tab completition
[16:34] malgar (n=malgar@adsl-ull-95-239.47-151.net24.it) left irc: "*** E' solo l'urto con un iceberg, che vuoi che sia, questa è una nave inaffondabile. *** 75$/barile"
[16:40] <macfreak4> ya i'm trying to get linux up and running on ensure-1
[16:47] <phatmonkey> hey everyone
[16:47] <phatmonkey> what's the problem macfreak4?
[17:00] <macfreak4> well, debian won't partition the hard drive
[17:00] <macfreak4> and it doesn't make sense at all
[17:01] <macfreak4> it'll get to 100% done partitioning, then report an error EVERY time, not matter what
[17:01] <macfreak4> so, I don't know what to do.
[17:03] <macfreak4> i'm currently dl-ing a linux utility cd, to partition the hard drive and install DSL
[17:04] <macfreak4> but this is all pretty sketchy, expecially just 7 days before the launch
[17:07] <phatmonkey> what's the error?!
[17:07] <phatmonkey> macfreak4,
[17:07] <phatmonkey> well, did it work on windows?
[17:07] <phatmonkey> if it did, use windows
[17:07] <phatmonkey> if not, delay the launch
[17:07] <phatmonkey> you'll want to test it
[17:10] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[17:10] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude.
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> what's the error?!
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> macfreak4,
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> well, did it work on windows?
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> if it did, use windows
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> if not, delay the launch
[17:10] <phatmonkey> <phatmonkey> you'll want to test i
[17:11] <macfreak4> sry my internet connection is a little messed right now...
[17:11] <macfreak4> all it says is it can't partition the drive, and returns me to the partitioning screen
[17:11] <macfreak4> which is futile, because nothing works
[17:11] <phatmonkey> try alt-f3
[17:12] <macfreak4> what's that do?
[17:12] <phatmonkey> or alt-f something
[17:12] <phatmonkey> it skips to the console
[17:12] <phatmonkey> it'll show the real error
[17:12] <macfreak4> oh
[17:12] <macfreak4> well i'm trying out dsl now
[17:12] <phatmonkey> you'll be spending *ages* setting up software :/
[17:13] <macfreak4> can't you still use .deb packages?
[17:13] <macfreak4> it *is* based on debian
[17:13] <phatmonkey> it won't have any dependancies
[17:13] <phatmonkey> a 50mb distribution with an x server and a bunch of software will only have the bare essentials!
[17:14] <macfreak4> the only xtra software i need is webcam drivers and maybe drivers for the usb-to-serial adaptor i'm using
[17:14] <macfreak4> that's it
[17:14] <phatmonkey> dunno how they've done it, but they've probably scrapped all the modules/drivers and libraries you'll need
[17:14] <macfreak4> well when debian doesnt work, it's time to move on
[17:14] <macfreak4> and debian doesnt work
[17:14] <macfreak4> so it's time to move on
[17:14] <macfreak4> ;)
[17:15] <phatmonkey> things are fixable :o
[17:15] <macfreak4> how big is a small debian install?
[17:15] <macfreak4> such as what you did with the slug?
[17:15] <phatmonkey> i'll boot up my slug, one sec
[17:16] <phatmonkey> my slug has loads of software on it now
[17:16] <macfreak4> oh
[17:16] <macfreak4> :/
[17:16] <phatmonkey> I dunno really
[17:16] <phatmonkey> but about as small as a proper distribution will go
[17:17] <macfreak4> well two people have now recommended DSL to me and so i'm going to give it a go
[17:17] <phatmonkey> yeah
[17:17] <phatmonkey> i've no idea how it would work, but worth a try
[17:17] <phatmonkey> first thing though, remove the X server!
[17:17] <phatmonkey> sucking up useless power, maybe a stability risk
[17:17] <macfreak4> or keep it and just don't boot it, it's very small
[17:18] <macfreak4> it's not GNOME or KDE, ya know
[17:18] <phatmonkey> yes, but you can always tunnel an X server
[17:18] <phatmonkey> yeah, guess
[17:19] <macfreak4> oh heh
[17:19] <macfreak4> oops
[17:19] <macfreak4> i dowloaded a testing version...
[17:19] <macfreak4> of debian
[17:20] <macfreak4> not a "stable" distro
[17:20] <macfreak4> hmm
[17:20] <phatmonkey> testing is stable
[17:20] <phatmonkey> stable is too stable for any sane person, because it's all a few years out of date
[17:20] <macfreak4> "mages for the testing release, both daily builds and known working snapshots, see the Debian-Installer page."
[17:20] <macfreak4> oh well
[17:20] <macfreak4> yeah
[17:21] <phatmonkey> unstable is the unstable one!
[17:21] <macfreak4> ok
[17:21] <phatmonkey> I have always run testing on all my servers
[17:21] <phatmonkey> even routers which need to be rock stable
[17:21] <phatmonkey> never seen any major crash
[17:21] icez (n=icez@ip68-3-56-121.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[17:22] <macfreak4> how about partitioning outside of the debian installer, and trying that?
[17:22] <macfreak4> would that, theoretically, work?
[17:24] <phatmonkey> yep
[17:24] <phatmonkey> just assign the partitions to the right mount points and tell it not to format them
[17:28] <macfreak4> hahaha that's hilarious
[17:28] <macfreak4> support.microsoft.com has a tutorial on "How to Remove Linux and Install Windows XP"
[17:28] <macfreak4> pph
[17:31] <phatmonkey> :D
[17:59] <macfreak4> okay now dsl is installing...
[17:59] <macfreak4> we'll see how this goes...
[18:04] <macfreak4> HAHA
[18:04] <macfreak4> i win :D
[18:05] <icez> hey macfreak4, i think i already asked but do you have information on your project?
[18:06] <macfreak4> a website?
[18:07] <macfreak4> http://macfreak4.homeunix.com/projects/ensure
[18:07] <icez> oh
[18:07] <icez> *remembers*
[18:07] <macfreak4> hmm it seems to be down...
[18:07] <macfreak4> i'll reboot the router
[18:08] <icez> its not down here
[18:08] <icez> :/
[18:08] <macfreak4> i always have to reboot that damn thing
[18:08] <macfreak4> stuff is falling apart around me!!
[18:08] <macfreak4> aah!
[18:08] <macfreak4> lol
[18:08] <macfreak4> oh well it works here now...
[18:09] <icez> so you are launching in a week?
[18:09] <macfreak4> ya
[18:09] <icez> yeepee
[18:09] <macfreak4> but the software isn't close to being ready, so it *may* be postponed (again)
[18:10] <macfreak4> phatmonkey: with X running, it's using 15.1MB of 196MB RAM, 23 processes, and 0% CPU load
[18:10] <macfreak4> it's very lightweight
[18:10] <macfreak4> even recognizes my Microsoft Optical USB mouse w/o extra hassle
[18:10] <macfreak4> btw, they
[18:10] <macfreak4> got DSL to run on 486's with 16 megs of ram
[18:11] <macfreak4> so running on a pentium 2 400mhz with 196mb ram should be no problem
[18:13] <phatmonkey> fair enough
[18:14] <phatmonkey> I wonder if standard debian packages work!
[18:14] <phatmonkey> that would be good
[18:14] <macfreak4> ya that's the question now
[18:15] <phatmonkey> otherwise you'll be spending ages setting software up
[18:15] <macfreak4> well, i don't really require much software with this project
[18:16] <macfreak4> i'm going to write a program to control the functions of the balloon in perl, and install necessary components to interface to the webcam
[18:17] <macfreak4> hmm but I doubt they've got perl in DSL
[18:17] <phatmonkey> no, I mean software packages
[18:18] <macfreak4> right, but what software packages DO i need??
[18:18] <macfreak4> i have to save images and video from the webcam, get GPS data, and tx back to earth
[18:18] <macfreak4> that's it
[18:19] <macfreak4> well, and get data from the adc, but that's just serial stuff -- easy
[18:20] <macfreak4> they have an irc channel
[18:20] <macfreak4> i'll talk to them a bit...
[18:43] <macfreak4> any idea how to mount a cd in linux?
[18:43] <macfreak4> :(
[18:56] <macfreak4> got the floppy drive workin
[18:58] <phatmonkey> i fyou were using debian it would all be working...
[18:58] <phatmonkey> you'll need webcam drivers & software for capturing it
[18:58] <phatmonkey> gpsd I guess]
[18:58] <phatmonkey> and some scripting language to tie it all together
[18:58] <phatmonkey> not much I suppose
[19:06] <macfreak4> maybe i'll try debian again
[19:15] phatmonkey (n=phatmonk@150.121.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[19:29] malgar (n=malgar@adsl-ull-59-150.47-151.net24.it) joined #highaltitude.
[19:31] phatmonkey (n=phatmonk@150.121.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined #highaltitude.
[20:12] rocketboy (n=steve@217.47.75.5) joined #highaltitude.
[20:15] phatmonkey_ (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined #highaltitude.
[20:18] phatmonkey (n=phatmonk@150.121.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Connection timed out
[20:37] phatmonkey_ (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: Connection timed out
[20:37] phatmonkey_ (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) joined #highaltitude.
[20:47] Nick change: phatmonkey_ -> phatmonkey
[21:18] Ed_Moore (n=Ed@80-46-112-126.static.dsl.as9105.com) joined #highaltitude.
[21:18] <Ed_Moore> hi all
[21:18] <phatmonkey> hey there
[21:19] <Ed_Moore> how's tricks?
[21:19] <phatmonkey> whee, i have a program written that calculates pitch and bank angles from raw thermopile sensor inputs
[21:19] <phatmonkey> groovy
[21:20] <Ed_Moore> very impressive
[21:20] <Ed_Moore> how does it work?
[21:24] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) left irc: Remote closed the connection
[21:24] macfreak4 (n=macfreak@24-107-201-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #highaltitude.
[21:24] <Ed_Moore> hi macfreak
[21:25] <phatmonkey> just a bit of clever maths
[21:25] <phatmonkey> bbiab
[21:25] <Ed_Moore> bbiab?
[21:29] <icez> be back in a bit
[21:30] <Ed_Moore> i feel so ignorant :)
[22:00] Ed_Moore (n=Ed@80-46-112-126.static.dsl.as9105.com) left irc: "Leaving"
[22:47] phatmonkey (n=phatmonk@65.98.2.81.in-addr.arpa) left irc: "Ex-Chat"
[23:04] malgar (n=malgar@adsl-ull-59-150.47-151.net24.it) left irc: "*** E' solo l'urto con un iceberg, che vuoi che sia, questa è una nave inaffondabile. *** 75$/barile"
[23:44] rocketboy (n=steve@217.47.75.5) left #highaltitude.
[00:00] --- Sat Jun 24 2006