highaltitude.log.20060621

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[15:02] <defy> hey guys
[15:03] <macfreak4> hi
[15:03] <mark_fiirestone> hello
[15:04] <mark_fiirestone> gissus a job. i can do that job. gissus a job
[15:05] <macfreak4> ??
[15:06] <mark_fiirestone> heh. looking for a job. stupid tv reference to a show I never watched
[15:06] <mark_fiirestone> delaying my balloon stuff again
[15:06] <macfreak4> oh
[15:06] <macfreak4> ic
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[15:15] <macfreak4> so Tiger^ had a successful launch I hear
[15:15] <macfreak4> and jcoxxon is almost done with Peg-3
[15:15] <macfreak4> a lot happened in a week... ;)
[15:19] <mark_fiirestone> cool. know when he is going to launch? I was going to try to drive down
[15:19] <macfreak4> jcoxxon? no idea. i just read his progress on his site
[15:20] <macfreak4> i've been out of town for a week
[15:20] <macfreak4> so i haven't talked since
[15:20] <mark_fiirestone> i'll go have a look. i need to get linux onto my flight computer. just been busy going to interviews
[15:21] <macfreak4> o
[15:26] <macfreak4> right now i'm drawing up a pc/104 to isa adaptor in eagle cad for my next balloon's onboard computer
[15:26] <macfreak4> which is a pc/104 module
[15:26] <macfreak4> (a full pc on a 4 inch x 4 inch board)
[15:33] <mark_fiirestone> cool. i've got some sort of 5v PC thingie.
[15:33] <macfreak4> hehe
[15:33] <mark_fiirestone> I was going to flout the law and attach it with a sound card to a PMR446 radio
[15:33] <mark_fiirestone> and have it speak its status
[15:34] <macfreak4> but not anymore?
[15:36] <mark_fiirestone> no, that is still the plan. I was going to alternate it with "i dare you to find me ofcom" but that seemed a bit of a risk
[15:36] <macfreak4> yeah that wouldn't be such a good idea
[15:37] <mark_fiirestone> heh
[15:37] <macfreak4> funny tho
[15:37] <macfreak4> :D
[15:38] <mark_fiirestone> you said it was funny, now I'm tempted again
[15:39] <macfreak4> lol
[15:40] <mark_fiirestone> they really annoyed me. the regulation against radios in balloons is dumb.
[15:40] <macfreak4> but can't they still charge you mucho $$ for breaking the radio law?
[15:41] <mark_fiirestone> oh ya. probably. i'm not a citizen, maybe they could deport me to arizona
[15:41] <mark_fiirestone> the odds of getting caught seem remote
[15:41] <macfreak4> oh haha
[15:42] <macfreak4> well my ham license has been processed
[15:42] <macfreak4> my callsign's KC0WYS
[15:43] <mark_fiirestone> oh no, bloody ham operators. going to turn me in ... :)
[15:43] <mark_fiirestone> my call sign in the states was KB7TCC
[15:43] <mark_fiirestone> but my ticket expired
[15:44] <macfreak4> oh heh
[15:52] <mark_fiirestone> i'll use my 2m handheld instead then... increase my chances of getting busted
[15:53] <macfreak4> lol thats where all of the short-range ham comms happen
[15:54] <mark_fiirestone> ya. I don't want to risk my alinco handheld anyway, but a £10 pmr radio.. who cares. I figure if I straighten out it's coiled antenna, it might be good enought, at altitude
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[18:04] <macfreak4> hey
[18:04] <macfreak4> jcoxon: close to done?
[18:10] <Weiss> if the aerial is meant to be coiled, straightening it out might be a bad idea
[18:10] <Weiss> c.f. coiled AM aerials vs straight FM ones
[18:31] <macfreak4> ya and it would change the length of the antenna, making it resonant on a different frequency
[18:36] <Tiger^> macfreak4: congrats on your license :)
[18:37] <macfreak4> o thx :D
[18:37] <macfreak4> congrats on your launch
[18:39] <Tiger^> thanks :)
[18:39] <macfreak4> do you have a page up about the technical details of the payload?
[18:40] <Tiger^> i will
[18:40] <Tiger^> :)
[18:40] <macfreak4> kk
[18:40] <macfreak4> let us know when
[18:40] <Tiger^> sure
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[20:12] <phatmonkey> hi all
[20:12] <macfreak4> hi
[20:16] <phatmonkey> i think it's time to take down my old glider wiki....
[20:17] <macfreak4> oh?
[20:17] <macfreak4> why?
[20:18] <phatmonkey> got the ukhas wiki
[20:18] <macfreak4> oh
[20:18] <phatmonkey> I locked up the old one months ago because of vandalism, so it certainly isn't up to date
[20:19] <macfreak4> o ok i thought you were abandoning the project or something
[20:19] <phatmonkey> ooh, no way :D
[20:19] <macfreak4> ya i was kinda surprised...
[20:19] <phatmonkey> http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk/projects:high_altitude_slug
[20:19] <phatmonkey> all the latest info is there
[20:23] <phatmonkey> ooh, i have a nasty desire to order my gumstix right now
[20:23] <macfreak4> hehe
[20:23] <macfreak4> *looking*
[20:24] <phatmonkey> hokay, important moment, should I get the connex 200 or 400?
[20:24] <phatmonkey> jcoxon?
[20:26] <defy--> whatever you get, get the xm
[20:26] <defy--> the extra 12mb of space really helps :P
[20:27] <macfreak4> after this launch, i'm beginning designing a geosynchronous balloon project for a science experiment
[20:27] <macfreak4> the computer will be a pc/104 486 computer, which just arrived
[20:28] <macfreak4> a little 4 inch x 4 inch board with onboard video, sound, isa bus, ram, flash drive, etc
[20:28] <macfreak4> the downside is that it uses a bit of power
[20:28] <macfreak4> ~6 watts
[20:35] <phatmonkey> a satellite?
[20:36] <macfreak4> well, except it's not orbiting but being held up by helium
[20:36] <macfreak4> above the jet stream
[20:53] <phatmonkey> yes
[20:53] <phatmonkey> nice!
[20:54] <phatmonkey> are you going to be using a no pressure balloon or one which vents?
[20:54] <macfreak4> because of the high cost of no pressure balloons, I'm going to use a solenoid to release helium slowly until it becomes neutrally buoyant
[20:55] <phatmonkey> clever
[20:58] <macfreak4> aww man i gotta post this on ukhas
[20:58] <macfreak4> this funny pic of tux hanging on a balloon
[21:03] <phatmonkey> http://www.nongnu.org/paparazzi/
[21:03] <phatmonkey> that's my favourite tux logo :D
[21:04] <macfreak4> ha
[21:04] <phatmonkey> daammmnnnnnn
[21:04] <phatmonkey> the robostix is out of stock
[21:04] <phatmonkey> doubel dam
[21:04] <phatmonkey> n
[21:06] <macfreak4> hmm
[21:06] <macfreak4> thats not good
[21:32] <macfreak4> woo just got done -- http://macfreak4.homeunix.com/photos/old/near-space-tux.jpg
[21:33] <phatmonkey> ahahah
[21:33] <phatmonkey> nice!
[21:33] <macfreak4> :D
[21:34] <phatmonkey> i love it
[21:34] <macfreak4> i think we gotta get it on ukhas
[21:34] <phatmonkey> put it in the flickr stream
[21:34] <macfreak4> it pretty much represents the group
[21:34] <macfreak4> ok
[21:40] <macfreak4> it's up
[21:41] <macfreak4> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99264010@N00/172175920/in/pool-highaltitude/
[21:42] <phatmonkey> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=172175920&context=pool-67555315@N00&size=o - you can get the full quality version off flickr ;)
[21:42] <phatmonkey> jcoxon, WAKE UP!
[21:42] <macfreak4> no, it's more fuzzy -- compressed
[21:43] <macfreak4> the original is 100% JPEG
[21:43] <macfreak4> not a big difference, tho
[21:45] <phatmonkey> yeah
[21:45] <phatmonkey> thought they kept the originals
[21:46] <phatmonkey> the difference between a 100% jpeg and 80% jpeg is nothing to the naked eye though
[21:46] <macfreak4> oh you can see it
[21:46] <macfreak4> i can, at least, especially around the edges of two different colors
[21:47] <macfreak4> but yeah, it doesnt really matter
[22:11] <phatmonkey> http://www.phatmonkey.org.uk/2006/06/21/high-altitude-slug-project-moves-forward/
[22:15] <macfreak4> "When a Mac starts to emulate a Windows platform completely, the computer must provide additional voltage to provide the computing power"
[22:15] <macfreak4> That's such BS!!!
[22:16] <phatmonkey> :D
[22:16] <macfreak4> wow that's an impressive piece of idiotry
[22:16] <phatmonkey> pfft, it was a college thing i believe, what do you expect ;)
[22:17] <macfreak4> well, i expect at least something that *sounds* true
[22:17] <macfreak4> :P
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[23:46] <rocketboy> hi
[23:54] <macfreak4> hi
[23:54] <macfreak4> first time?
[23:58] <rocketboy> yep
[23:59] <rocketboy> actually about 4 years since I used mIRC
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