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[09:37] <jcoxon> morning defy
[09:37] <jcoxon> get any parafoil testing done?
[09:53] <defy> yea a bit, no direction control yet but it does indeed create enough lift when moving forward to keep its self up
[09:54] <defy> I had to move the motor around quite a bit to get the gear balanced properly, when its low it tends to want to hover, and too high pulls it down towards the ground, but i got it in just the right place
[09:54] <defy> its also still a bit heavy, I'm going to build another battery pack tonight out of lighter batteries
[09:55] <defy> but since the end goal is just direction control without a motor, i dont really know if its possible yet...but it flys at least :D
[10:04] <jcoxon> :-D
[10:06] Action: jcoxon wishes he didn't have exams and could do things like defy
[10:11] <defy> I'm just lucky that i have a good paying job that isn't requiring any real work at the moment, not too sure how long it will last though
[10:12] <jcoxon> hehe
[10:12] <jcoxon> its worth waiting till their over (the exams that is)
[10:12] <jcoxon> then i'll be getting payed for 8 weeks to do balloons
[10:13] <jcoxon> paid*
[10:15] <defy> awesome
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[14:11] <mark_fiirestone> I've managed to get the electrical controls folks interested... I'm not sure if that's good or not
[14:11] <jcoxon> right
[14:11] <jcoxon> electrical control guys?
[14:13] <mark_fiirestone> ya. they design controls for newspaper printing presses.
[14:13] <mark_fiirestone> so they are crazy engineering geek types
[14:14] <jcoxon> oh cool
[14:14] <mark_fiirestone> one guy is an old radio hacker... and is certain I should ignore ofcom...
[14:14] <jcoxon> i reckon its okay to use CB radio
[14:14] <mark_fiirestone> (i'm beginning to agree with them. at least the caa answers my emails... they just ignore me... some regulator... )
[14:15] <jcoxon> the problem is that the Cambridge Uni can't do that
[14:15] <jcoxon> as they intend to publish their work
[14:15] <jcoxon> so we need to find an alternative
[14:15] <mark_fiirestone> I have been thinking that as well. it's illegal, but they are about to deregulate it.... it said 2004 on the site, but no update
[14:15] <mark_fiirestone> totally. I understand. I don't want to get into too much trouble, as I am not a citizen
[14:15] <jcoxon> but no one monitors CB
[14:16] <jcoxon> and most people wouldn't notice a burst transmission
[14:16] <mark_fiirestone> so, what? packet radio on 27mhz?
[14:16] <mark_fiirestone> true. need to find light weight and cheap cb equipment then. I also want to fly a cel phone as backup
[14:16] <jcoxon> packet or synthese a voice to say the coordinates
[14:16] <jcoxon> the software flite would do it
[14:16] <mark_fiirestone> i think the latter would have amusement value as well
[14:17] <jcoxon> well with a gumstix with audiostix II you get audio out and onboard gps
[14:17] <mark_fiirestone> hmmm. how much would that set me back do you think?
[14:17] <jcoxon> depends how much the audiostix II is
[14:17] <jcoxon> its meant to come out today
[14:18] <jcoxon> audiostix 1 is $40
[14:18] <mark_fiirestone> i thought a gumstix was $129 for the basic version...
[14:19] <mark_fiirestone> that's not too bad...
[14:19] <mark_fiirestone> I can't get my working class relatives up north here interested in this, as it doesn't contain beer. sigh. :)
[14:19] <jcoxon> but with the addition of a gps module i reckon it'll got to $80
[14:19] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:20] <mark_fiirestone> "you've brought shame to this family, mark firestone, for generations we've all been amateur astronomers..."
[14:20] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:20] <mark_fiirestone> affordable. I may go that way... if uwe doesn't come up with a computer.
[14:20] <jcoxon> you're now just trying to get there hehe
[14:21] <jcoxon> well i've got one
[14:21] <jcoxon> its sitting at home - will collect it on the weekend
[14:21] <jcoxon> might get myself a CB scanner and listen in to see how it all works
[14:21] <mark_fiirestone> ya, for free as well. I need to write a letter to maplin. see if they will give me free stuff
[14:21] <mark_fiirestone> i used to have an american cb handitalkie and radio, but i threw them away.
[14:22] <mark_fiirestone> no one would talk to me, just my exwife. they all wanted to talk to her...funny that.
[14:22] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:22] <mark_fiirestone> i'll look on ebay for cheap cb radios. maybe talk to my ham friends again, but they are all 70+
[14:23] <jcoxon> hehe
[14:24] <mark_fiirestone> do other eu countries ban ham radio on aircraft, or just the UK?
[14:41] <jcoxon> it seems to be the phrase is "unattended"
[14:44] <mark_fiirestone> oh, i know what I was going to ask you... what are the caa's rules on payload weight? Or are their any?
[14:56] <jcoxon> there don't seem to be any
[14:56] <mark_fiirestone> do they ask the question?
[14:57] <jcoxon> nope
[14:57] <jcoxon> http://www.env.leeds.ac.uk/~brooks/ufam/CAA.pdf
[15:07] <mark_fiirestone> hmmm. i don't have to keep it down to 6 lbs then. don't want to get too heavy, in case it lands on farmer jiles or in the middle of the m6 or something.
[15:07] <jcoxon> hehe
[15:07] <jcoxon> very true
[15:10] <mark_fiirestone> did you see the ufo stunt they did here? some special effects techs made a fake steerable ufo that was basically a neutrally buoyant balloon with a saucer like shell and fan thrusters to steer it? They flew it past some country pub and scared the crap out of folks.
[15:11] <jcoxon> hehe no
[15:18] <mark_fiirestone> http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/030926/128/e9hig.html
[15:19] <mark_fiirestone> http://www.apra.org.uk/A_Very_British_UFO_Hoax.htm
[15:19] <jcoxon> hehe
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[23:16] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, added a few more things to ukhas
[23:17] <phatmonkey> ooh, nice
[23:17] <phatmonkey> don't really have the time at the moment...
[23:18] <phatmonkey> what with coursework and all
[23:18] <jcoxon> nah its okay
[23:19] <phatmonkey> I guess we can remove that old news post
[23:19] <phatmonkey> it was just a test!
[23:19] <jcoxon> dod you have any knowledge about phpnuke?
[23:19] <jcoxon> do*
[23:19] <phatmonkey> yeah, terrible piece of software
[23:19] <phatmonkey> hehe
[23:19] <phatmonkey> we need to get a pretty theme too...
[23:19] <jcoxon> the guy from project SOAR needs some help
[23:20] <jcoxon> his phpnuke keeps getting hacked
[23:21] <phatmonkey> yeah, move
[23:22] <jcoxon> hehe
[23:22] <jcoxon> not sure thats the answer he wants
[23:22] <phatmonkey> plugging the holes in phpnuke is like trying to stop water passing through a sieve
[23:22] <phatmonkey> dammit, I'm bad at analogies
[23:25] <jcoxon> hehe, i get teh idea
[23:25] <jcoxon> right i'm off to bed
[23:25] <jcoxon> got lots to do tomorrow
[23:25] <jcoxon> cya
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