highaltitude.log.20060410

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[09:03] <mark_fiirestone> oh man, is it time to wake up yet?
[09:26] <jcoxon> hehe
[09:27] <jcoxon> morning mark_fiirestone
[09:31] <mark_fiirestone> good morning. I've walked into a broken mail sever this morning. Kind of a drag.
[09:31] <mark_fiirestone> (;
[09:31] <jcoxon> not fun i guess
[09:33] <mark_fiirestone> the main problem is not knowing what's wrong, and having to make up an answer for the boss, who wants to know
[09:34] <mark_fiirestone> .vs. knowing whats wrong and having the boss not listen
[09:35] <jcoxon> what software are you using?
[09:35] <mark_fiirestone> anyway... I've nearly collected enough stuff to start playing with the sandpiper gps card.
[09:35] <mark_fiirestone> exchange 5.5
[09:35] <mark_fiirestone> but I think it's groupshield that's killing it
[09:36] <mark_fiirestone> i added you to the mailing list. folks were talking about my crazy parafoil idea.
[09:38] <mark_fiirestone> and my wife (who isn't crazy about any of this) said she's make one.
[09:38] <mark_fiirestone> heh
[09:44] <jcoxon> hehe
[09:44] <jcoxon> don't think you should use the parafoil for the first launch :-)
[09:46] <jcoxon> i find that friends and relatives rather enjoy helping at the launch
[09:46] <jcoxon> i had about 15 people at Pegasus II launch
[09:46] <jcoxon> all helping out
[09:47] <jcoxon> oh phatmonkey and i have started working on the UKHAS website
[09:47] <jcoxon> http://ukhas.org.uk
[10:30] <mark_fiirestone> hey, I like that... i'll put up a link to it and create an account
[10:50] <defy> jcoxon you're not keen on parafoil? I was thinking about using one for a controled decent
[10:51] <jcoxon> i've never really seen one in action
[10:51] <jcoxon> seems like something that could quite easily go wrong
[10:52] <jcoxon> would be more confident in a glider
[10:59] <mark_fiirestone> same here. I just think a glider would be harder to design and control
[11:00] <mark_fiirestone> folks sell parafoil kites, might be able to adapt a large one... plus i have plans for a large (for a balloon payload) parafoil. problem is, I'm a computer geek, not a aerospace geek (yet)
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[11:24] <defy> yea
[11:24] <defy> I want to test both setups before i launch
[11:24] <defy> i have a few parafoil kites to play with
[11:26] <jcoxon> cool
[11:31] Action: jcoxon wants his gumstix now!
[11:31] <defy> hehe
[11:32] <defy> mine only took about a week to arrive, how long have you been waiting?
[11:33] <jcoxon> oh
[11:34] <jcoxon> its cause i'm waiting for the new audiostix II
[11:34] <defy> ah yup, lcd and touch screen breakout on that one right?
[11:34] <jcoxon> its got onboard gps!
[11:35] <defy> oh really? damn..
[11:35] <defy> that would be really handy
[11:35] <defy> i've been fighting with gpsd for 2 weeks trying to get it to work properly with my gps
[11:35] <jcoxon> hmmm is yours the zodiac with issues?
[11:35] <defy> yup :P
[11:35] <jcoxon> yeah seen the posts on the ML
[11:36] <defy> I'm starting to think it'll be easier to just get a new gps
[11:36] <jcoxon> probably
[11:36] <jcoxon> stick your one on ebay
[11:36] <jcoxon> and then get another
[11:36] <defy> yeah
[11:37] <jcoxon> gps shouldn't be difficult to get working
[11:37] <defy> yea, i dont get this issue at all, its so weird
[11:38] <defy> i have other gps's but they are all usb =/
[11:38] <jcoxon> ebay is your friend!
[11:39] <jcoxon> actually i get most of my parts from ebay
[11:39] <defy> yea, i got this gps from ebay..i figured since it was on the supported list of gps's for gpsd and that it was serial, and i had prior experience that it would be the best/cheapest solution
[11:39] <defy> but boy was i wrong :P
[11:39] <jcoxon> hehe
[11:39] <defy> but hell, if the audiostixII has a gps built in, i'd probably want to get that anyway
[11:40] <jcoxon> hmmmm
[11:40] <jcoxon> i'm a big fan of external gps units
[11:40] <defy> yea? just because of the freedom to choose your own?
[11:40] <jcoxon> no cause you can mount them outside the payload
[11:40] <defy> ahh yea true
[11:41] <jcoxon> gps doesn't like polystyrenen
[11:41] <jcoxon> and its not worth the risk
[11:41] <jcoxon> guess you can use an aerial
[11:41] <defy> hehe, i figured that would be the case too
[11:42] <phatmonkey> jcoxon: I think I've got you added as admin on the site
[11:42] <phatmonkey> and I need to go...
[11:42] <jcoxon> yup
[11:42] <jcoxon> i've seen
[11:42] <phatmonkey> kk
[11:42] <jcoxon> cya
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[12:04] <Kybernetos> hey
[12:05] <mark_fiirestone> hey there
[12:05] <mark_fiirestone> I've convinced my boss to let me have the afternoon off. Hurray!
[12:07] <Kybernetos> nice! =)
[12:08] Action: Kybernetos has been on vacation for 3 months... just starting to do some work now. a little. ;)
[12:13] <Kybernetos> so how are you gonna spend your afternoon off then?
[12:32] <jcoxon> hehe
[12:34] <mark_fiirestone> I'm getting laid off in a couple of months. good thing the severance is good.
[12:34] <mark_fiirestone> I'm going to entertain my kids while my wife sleeps. She's a psych nurse and works nights
[12:36] <mark_fiirestone> must dash. will return tonight!
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[13:40] <defy> what do you guys do?/
[13:59] <Kybernetos> idle?
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[17:55] Action: jcoxon has begun field testing wifi
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[21:14] <phatmonkey> hi all!
[21:31] <jcoxon> hey phatmonkey
[21:32] <jcoxon> started testing wifi today
[22:04] <Kybernetos> heya jcoxon, phatmonkey, everyone.
[22:04] <jcoxon> :-D
[22:04] <Kybernetos> jcoxon: testing, how?
[22:04] <jcoxon> set up a laptop in the garden
[22:04] <jcoxon> and seeing if i can extend the range of another card with different objects
[22:05] <jcoxon> but i found that actually the wireless card i was using was awful
[22:06] <Kybernetos> ok? what card is that?
[22:06] <jcoxon> zd1201
[22:06] <jcoxon> i knew it was bad
[22:06] <jcoxon> but not this bad
[22:09] <Kybernetos> but what's really interresting should still be the percentual improvement by focusing the signal... right?
[22:09] <jcoxon> true
[22:09] <Kybernetos> so it might actually make things easier if it's "bad".
[22:09] <jcoxon> nah cause it lost connection to easily
[22:10] <jcoxon> its usb while the centrino wireless on the laptop was getting excellent
[22:10] <Kybernetos> ok, bad reception... that's worse.
[22:10] <jcoxon> i really want a card that i can then start pushing the distance between the points
[22:10] <jcoxon> see what sort of range its possible
[22:10] <jcoxon> (i've got space to do this)
[22:11] <jcoxon> found that a collinder as a parabolic dish gives about a 10db gain
[22:12] <Kybernetos> collinder?
[22:12] <jcoxon> sieve like cooking utensil
[22:12] <jcoxon> fewer bigger holes
[22:12] <Kybernetos> aha
[22:12] <jcoxon> going to tinfoil an umbrella tomorrow
[22:13] <phatmonkey> wow
[22:14] <Kybernetos> cool. and if your neighbors ask what you're doing, just say you're preparing for an alien invasion. tinfoil devices will make it impossible for the aliens to read your mind...
[22:14] <jcoxon> oh i live in the middle of nowhere
[22:14] <jcoxon> no neighbours (unless you count sheep)
[22:14] <phatmonkey> poor sheep
[22:14] <Kybernetos> yeah
[22:14] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:15] <phatmonkey> getting fried by insane wifi experiments
[22:15] <Kybernetos> i almost killed a sheep once with a R/C model.
[22:15] <jcoxon> got to be done
[22:15] <Kybernetos> or a rabbit, maybe it was
[22:15] <jcoxon> quite a difference
[22:15] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:15] <Kybernetos> 8)
[22:15] <jcoxon> slightly worried about wifi though
[22:16] <jcoxon> not like a radio broadcasting info
[22:16] <jcoxon> it requires both transmitting and reciving
[22:16] <jcoxon> a whole new ball game
[22:16] <Kybernetos> true
[22:16] <jcoxon> if i can get it to work then it'll be amazing
[22:17] <jcoxon> i reckon if perhaps you can monitor it for say 10 mins
[22:17] <jcoxon> you can get enough info to predict better
[22:17] <jcoxon> altitude gain and distance etc
[22:17] <Kybernetos> yepp very true
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