highaltitude.log.20060409

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[15:53] <Kybernetos> have any of you experience with gas compressors?
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[18:44] <jcoxon> heyall
[18:44] <jcoxon> i've returned :-D
[18:45] <phatmonkey> yays
[18:47] <jcoxon> hehe
[18:48] <jcoxon> missed much?
[18:54] <Kybernetos> hey jcox !
[18:54] <Kybernetos> you haven't missed anything afaik.
[18:55] <Kybernetos> does anyone remember their old school physics?
[18:55] <Kybernetos> "for fun", i'm trying to calculate the effect needed in watts to keep a model plane up if it weights 3 kg and has a glide number of 20
[18:59] <Kybernetos> my calcs is 3,75 including 60 % loss in engine and propeller, but it doesn't sounds right
[19:04] <jcoxon> aaarrrggghhhhh physics
[19:04] <Kybernetos> yeah.
[19:05] <jcoxon> Kybernetos, on another point - would you be interested in being involved in UKHAS?
[19:05] <Kybernetos> lookin up if solar panels could give enough power
[19:05] <jcoxon> its sory of a little society we are thinking of starting
[19:05] <jcoxon> sort*
[19:05] <Kybernetos> jcoxon: i might. if i knew what it is. =)
[19:05] <jcoxon> about ballooning
[19:05] <jcoxon> was wondering if we should have it as just UK or europe as well?
[19:06] <Kybernetos> well, europe, naturally? ;)
[19:06] <jcoxon> okay
[19:06] <jcoxon> cool
[19:06] <Kybernetos> what exactly would the society's/club's goals be though?
[19:07] <jcoxon> well infomation/ coordiation of launches/ help/ slightly social i guess
[19:07] <Kybernetos> ok
[19:07] <Kybernetos> well sure, sounds like fun.
[19:07] <jcoxon> i reckon at first it won't be much at all
[19:07] <jcoxon> perhaps a general website
[19:07] <jcoxon> with info
[19:07] <Kybernetos> yeah
[19:07] <jcoxon> phatmonkey is looking in to this
[19:08] <Kybernetos> nice. =)
[19:08] <Kybernetos> it might have some practical advantages aswell, parhaps
[19:08] <Kybernetos> perhaps
[19:08] <jcoxon> yeagh
[19:09] <jcoxon> i was think perhaps say if one of my payloads got blown across the country near to where another member was then they could help find it if they wanted
[19:09] <jcoxon> also a focal point for new interested people
[19:10] <phatmonkey> wiki for brainstorming ideas
[19:10] <phatmonkey> the stuff we come up with never gets written down anywhere
[19:10] <phatmonkey> jcoxon: we can be uk based, but include projects from anywhere
[19:10] <jcoxon> true
[19:10] <phatmonkey> and focus on problems/laws associated with balloons in the uk
[19:10] <jcoxon> perhaps keep it UKHAS
[19:11] <jcoxon> but then others are very welcome to get involved
[19:11] <phatmonkey> yeah
[19:11] <phatmonkey> like, erm
[19:11] <phatmonkey> well, I have no example
[19:11] <phatmonkey> but it'll work
[19:11] <phatmonkey> hehe
[19:11] <jcoxon> hehe
[19:11] <jcoxon> have you looked into the wiki bit?
[19:11] <jcoxon> (oh and i've added a random ideas page to my site)
[19:14] <phatmonkey> I like docuwiki, I've used it for something else
[19:14] <phatmonkey> but it won't integrate with the site
[19:14] <phatmonkey> that's not really a problem though
[19:14] <jcoxon> right
[19:14] <jcoxon> okay
[19:14] <phatmonkey> mediawiki's a bit over the top
[19:14] <jcoxon> i'm happy to get the domain name
[19:14] <jcoxon> so just say when you are ready to stat
[19:14] <phatmonkey> okay
[19:14] <phatmonkey> who are you registering it with?
[19:15] <phatmonkey> we'll need to edit the dns records
[19:15] <jcoxon> don't mind
[19:15] <phatmonkey> I use 123-reg.co.uk for everything, no problems
[19:15] <phatmonkey> I can register it if you want
[19:15] <jcoxon> okay (what about paying?)
[19:16] <phatmonkey> they only cost a few ?s
[19:16] <phatmonkey> not really a big deal!
[19:16] <jcoxon> :)
[19:16] <jcoxon> coool
[19:16] <jcoxon> then go for it
[19:16] <phatmonkey> eating, bbiab
[19:16] <phatmonkey> I'll get it in a sec
[19:16] <jcoxon> no worries
[19:16] <jcoxon> (might not be here but will be later)
[19:22] <phatmonkey> aah
[19:22] <phatmonkey> jcoxon
[19:22] <phatmonkey> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/pegasus4.html
[19:22] <jcoxon> yup
[19:22] <phatmonkey> those with prism2 chipsets!
[19:23] <phatmonkey> they have total support under linux
[19:23] <phatmonkey> I have one
[19:23] <phatmonkey> for my slug
[19:23] <jcoxon> cool
[19:23] <phatmonkey> oh wait
[19:23] <phatmonkey> you said that further up
[19:23] <jcoxon> yeah
[19:23] <phatmonkey> didn't see that
[19:23] <jcoxon> i thought they were the best
[19:23] <jcoxon> but i've never actually used one
[19:24] <jcoxon> hehe i would love for a wireless tracking station to work
[19:25] <phatmonkey> yes
[19:25] <phatmonkey> I must get in touch with this guy about it too
[19:25] <phatmonkey> he knows a hell of a lot about satellites and radio
[19:25] <phatmonkey> after eating...
[19:25] <phatmonkey> he works for ITN
[19:26] <phatmonkey> basically lining up the satellites for live transmissions
[19:26] <phatmonkey> and various other things
[19:26] <phatmonkey> I believe
[19:27] <jcoxon> wow
[19:27] <jcoxon> very cool
[19:29] <jcoxon> right i better be off
[19:29] <jcoxon> will be back later
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[21:26] <jcoxon> back!
[21:28] <malgar> bick
[21:28] <malgar> buck
[21:29] <jcoxon> hehe
[21:33] <jcoxon> its nice to see 7 people on this channel (zeusbot is suprisingly a bot :-p )
[21:35] <malgar> eheh
[21:37] <phatmonkey> hmm
[21:37] <phatmonkey> domain!
[21:37] <jcoxon> right
[21:38] <jcoxon> http://www.ukhas.org ??
[21:41] <phatmonkey> .uk?
[21:41] <phatmonkey> much cheaper :D
[21:41] <phatmonkey> ?2.59 vs ?8.99
[21:42] <jcoxon> go for it
[21:42] <jcoxon> its just a name
[21:43] <jcoxon> not like we are trying to attract people through the address
[21:43] <phatmonkey> yeah
[21:43] <phatmonkey> www.ukhas.org.uk
[21:43] <jcoxon> sort of makes more sense as well
[21:44] <phatmonkey> malgar: sound good?
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[21:44] <jcoxon> not sure malgar knows what we are talking about hehe
[21:45] <phatmonkey> hehe
[21:45] <phatmonkey> oh well
[21:45] <phatmonkey> I'll go ahead and get it
[21:45] <phatmonkey> just a few quid
[21:45] <jcoxon> if your happy with doing it
[21:45] <malgar> eheh
[21:45] <jcoxon> i'm happy to pay if necessary
[21:45] <malgar> "ukhas" means?
[21:46] <malgar> united kingdon high altitude? s??
[21:46] <malgar> kingdom
[21:46] <phatmonkey> society
[21:47] <phatmonkey> ukhas.org.uk
[21:47] <phatmonkey> looks right to me
[21:47] <phatmonkey> I'm sure one day I'm going to be an idiot and order the wrong domain
[21:47] <malgar> why only uk?
[21:47] <malgar> :))
[21:47] <phatmonkey> we're uk based, but of course we'll include everyone else!
[21:47] <malgar> mmh nationalist :P
[21:48] <malgar> (i'm joking)
[21:48] <malgar> :)
[21:48] <phatmonkey> jcoxon
[21:48] <phatmonkey> shall I register it to me or UKHAS?
[21:48] <phatmonkey> me will probably be simpler
[21:48] <phatmonkey> it costs ?30 to transfer it :/
[21:48] <jcoxon> yeah you
[21:48] <jcoxon> wel i don't think you are going to disappear
[21:49] <phatmonkey> hopefully not
[21:49] <phatmonkey> 2 years + vat
[21:49] <jcoxon> well oneday when UKHAS is a very rich organisation when we win an X prize or something
[21:49] <jcoxon> we can transfer it
[21:49] <phatmonkey> ?6
[21:49] <phatmonkey> think I can just about afford that with my penny jar
[21:49] <phatmonkey> hehe
[21:49] <jcoxon> hehe
[21:50] <malgar> well, good night
[21:50] <malgar> :)
[21:50] <phatmonkey> done!
[21:50] <phatmonkey> should be all up within 24 hours apparently
[21:50] <jcoxon> night malgar
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[21:51] <jcoxon> cool
[21:52] <phatmonkey> you want an email address forwarding thing?
[21:56] <jcoxon> oooo could do
[22:06] <phatmonkey> what to what?
[22:06] <jcoxon> ummmm
[22:07] <jcoxon> jcoxon@ukhas.org.uk to jac208@cam.ac.uk ?
[22:08] <phatmonkey> okay
[22:10] <phatmonkey> http://ukhas.org.uk/
[22:10] <phatmonkey> has that propagated to my server yet?
[22:10] <jcoxon> yup
[22:11] <phatmonkey> nice
[22:11] <jcoxon> kooky
[22:11] <phatmonkey> I guess my dns cache is giving me a bit of hell
[22:11] <phatmonkey> email done
[22:12] <jcoxon> cool
[22:12] <phatmonkey> drupal then?
[22:13] <jcoxon> if you want (as you can probably tell i'm not a great website designer!)
[22:13] <phatmonkey> hmmm....
[22:13] <phatmonkey> just got your test email
[22:13] <jcoxon> right
[22:13] <phatmonkey> one sec, probably typed it wrong
[22:13] <phatmonkey> lol
[22:13] <phatmonkey> yep, I sure did
[22:14] <phatmonkey> me and my silly typos
[22:15] <jcoxon> try again?
[22:15] <phatmonkey> kk
[22:15] <phatmonkey> should work now
[22:15] <jcoxon> bingo
[22:16] #highaltitude: mode change '+o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[22:17] Topic changed on #highaltitude by jcoxon!n=jcoxon@81-178-238-170.dsl.pipex.com: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with high altitude projects (balloons, gliders, etc) e.g. http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/ , http://glider.phatmonkey.org.uk/wiki/ or http://www.x-division.com/wiki/index.php/HAARP . UK High Altitude Society - http://ukhas.org.uk
[22:17] <phatmonkey> woah
[22:17] <phatmonkey> holy massive topic
[22:18] <jcoxon> perhaps get rid of our websites?
[22:18] <jcoxon> just leave ukhas?
[22:19] <phatmonkey> once the site's up
[22:19] <jcoxon> space has a bigger one :-P
[22:19] <phatmonkey> then we can move our junk onto the one site I guess
[22:19] <phatmonkey> wow
[22:22] <jcoxon> though if you do make it onto the channel its cause you've come through one of our sites :-)
[22:25] <phatmonkey> getting drupal installed...
[22:26] <jcoxon> cool
[22:26] <jcoxon> holidays yet?
[22:28] <phatmonkey> yep!
[22:28] <phatmonkey> started friday
[22:28] <phatmonkey> got revision though :/
[22:28] <jcoxon> cool
[22:28] <jcoxon> know the feeling
[22:28] <jcoxon> i've pretty much finished my holidays
[22:31] <phatmonkey> I can't be bothered to design anything
[22:31] <phatmonkey> I'm sure we can find a nice non-standard theme
[22:31] <jcoxon> oh yeah
[22:31] <jcoxon> the themes usually aren't bad
[22:31] <jcoxon> better to get something in place which we can adapt
[22:37] <jcoxon> oooooo a ukhas website!
[22:39] <phatmonkey> hehehe
[22:39] <phatmonkey> don't touch anything yet
[22:39] <phatmonkey> I'll get it set up
[22:40] <jcoxon> don't worry i won't
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[22:51] <jcoxon> welcome back Kybernetos
[22:51] <Kybernetos> thanks
[22:52] <Kybernetos> hmm. to robostix, or not to robostix?
[22:52] <jcoxon> methinks robostix
[22:53] <Kybernetos> =)
[22:53] <Kybernetos> i'm still a bit concerned about it's temperature rating though... from +5 C.
[22:54] <jcoxon> well thats cause its a commercial product
[22:54] <jcoxon> they've never actually tested it on an industrial scale
[22:54] <phatmonkey> hmm
[22:54] <phatmonkey> nice stuff
[22:57] <phatmonkey> http://drupal.org/project/Themes
[22:57] <phatmonkey> see anything you like there?
[22:58] <phatmonkey> the default theme is annoyingly nice actually
[22:58] <phatmonkey> lol
[22:58] <phatmonkey> quite neat
[23:00] <jcoxon> hmmmm
[23:00] <jcoxon> i quite like a lot of them
[23:00] <jcoxon> not sure what is most appropriate
[23:05] <jcoxon> i like civicspace
[23:05] <jcoxon> what do you think?
[23:06] <phatmonkey> link?
[23:07] <jcoxon> http://themes.drupal.org/node?theme=civicspace
[23:12] <Kybernetos> hmm, none of the gumstix boards have usb "master" functionality (or what the term is) ??
[23:13] <jcoxon> "host"
[23:13] <jcoxon> no not yet
[23:13] <jcoxon> the next version will
[23:13] <phatmonkey> quite nice
[23:13] <Kybernetos> =(
[23:13] <phatmonkey> might be hard to make a title for it though
[23:14] <jcoxon> it is possible to get usb
[23:14] <phatmonkey> anywho
[23:14] <jcoxon> via compac flash
[23:14] <phatmonkey> register and I'll make you admin
[23:14] <jcoxon> compact flash
[23:14] <jcoxon> okay phatmonkey
[23:14] <phatmonkey> you can explore
[23:14] <Kybernetos> ok, will look it up
[23:16] <jcoxon> done phatmonkey
[23:16] <phatmonkey> hmmm
[23:16] <phatmonkey> how do I make you admin
[23:17] <phatmonkey> hmmm
[23:18] <jcoxon> no idea :-D
[23:18] <phatmonkey> has all sorts of interesting categorisation features... worth exploring and understanding
[23:19] <jcoxon> hmmm
[23:22] <jcoxon> right i'm off to bed
[23:22] <jcoxon> night all
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