highaltitude.log.20060406

[01:27] <Kybernetos> ukhas?
[01:27] <Kybernetos> hmm.
[01:27] <Kybernetos> night folks.
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[09:00] <defy> jcoxon :) howsit
[09:02] <jcoxon> hey defy
[09:02] <jcoxon> just got my 500gm balloon from ebay
[09:02] <defy> cool
[09:02] <defy> how much helium do you normally go through? about a tank per balloon?
[09:03] <jcoxon> i don't actually know :-)
[09:03] <jcoxon> we've never run out
[09:03] <jcoxon> hehe
[09:03] <defy> ah cool
[09:03] <jcoxon> for pegasus II i got a bigger tank
[09:04] <jcoxon> for pegasus III as we are using a smaller balloon i'll get the small tank again
[09:04] <defy> im not too sure how many grams my balloon is, other than its 6foot...45c from ebay, lol...its pretty old though so i might get a brand new one for backup
[09:04] <jcoxon> and will run it out to see :-)
[09:04] <jcoxon> what colour is it?
[09:04] <defy> sweet
[09:04] <defy> kind of goldenish
[09:05] <jcoxon> its probably a 200gm
[09:05] <jcoxon> they are the most common
[09:05] <defy> sweet, uninflated its probably 4-5 feet long
[09:26] <jcoxon> right i'm off defy, will chat soon
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[10:36] <Kybernetos> hey guys, do you know what this UKHAS thing is?
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[13:56] <Death_Star> hi all
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[14:08] <Kybernetos> hey Death_Star
[14:25] <Death_Star> just though that I would hang out in this highaltitude channel and see if I get a contact buzz,, just joking.
[14:26] <Death_Star> Is everyone in here interested in ballooning?
[14:35] <icez> some are into gliders
[14:41] Action: Kybernetos is a balloon lunatic.
[14:41] <Kybernetos> certified.
[14:44] <Kybernetos> Death_Star: which balloon project was yours?
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[16:29] <Kybernetos> mark_fiirestone
[16:34] <mark_fiirestone> hi there.
[16:34] <mark_fiirestone> just ordered a gps antenna so I can start trying to get my oem gps card working.
[16:36] <mark_fiirestone> been thinking about steerable para-foils again.
[16:43] <Kybernetos> what's the purpose of the para-foil then? except for bragging rights?
[16:46] <Kybernetos> hmm... i'm looking at this german hobby/RC-site... they seem to have cool stuff like miniature electric gyros, etc!
[16:46] <Kybernetos> http://www.hobbydirekt.de/
[16:46] <Kybernetos> + jet engines. =)~
[16:49] <mark_fiirestone> heh
[16:50] <Death_Star> lol, I have not played with jet engins in a long time.
[16:50] <Death_Star> but it was fun
[16:50] <mark_fiirestone> well, bragging rights is a factor... I want some way of having this thing steer away from the Atlantic and at the launch site, without building it into a glider
[16:50] <mark_fiirestone> some sort of steerable parachute.
[16:51] <mark_fiirestone> jet engines sound fun!
[16:51] <Death_Star> you are going to try and fight the wind? or just contol the decent?
[16:52] <mark_fiirestone> that's a good question... and I'm not sure of the answer. I just want some control over where it ends up...
[16:54] <Death_Star> hmmmmmm.... in my experance it has been better to study the upper air flow then make a educated release.
[16:54] <mark_fiirestone> you're probably right about that :)
[16:55] <Death_Star> I have never tried to control a decent, and I am not saying that it is not posiable, just different
[16:55] <mark_fiirestone> i'm not much of a aeronautical geek, more of a computer geek
[16:56] <mark_fiirestone> i have to admit, I'm intereted in different. my main concern is that I live in the north of england, and their isn't a lot of width to the place...
[16:56] <Death_Star> humm,,,
[16:56] <Death_Star> do you know of a locate weather ballon station in your area?
[16:57] <Death_Star> brb work calls
[16:57] <mark_fiirestone> okeydoke
[16:57] <mark_fiirestone> I have to split now anyhow. will be back later
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[19:00] <Death_Star> hi there all
[19:02] <phatmonkey> hio
[19:04] <Death_Star> what is going on?
[19:08] <phatmonkey> not much!
[19:10] <Death_Star> phatmonkey are you into weather balloon projects as well?
[19:10] <phatmonkey> http://glider.phatmonkey.org.uk/
[19:10] <phatmonkey> sure am
[19:12] <Death_Star> looks like a cool project
[19:14] <phatmonkey> doesn't really have too much direction at the moment
[19:14] <phatmonkey> the wiki is a bit out of date
[19:14] <Death_Star> So you are going to launch the package up and drop it and flot down.
[19:15] <phatmonkey> choosing between starting with a glider or uncontrolled payload
[19:16] <Death_Star> Sound interesting. Kinda like a radiosonde + drop radiosonde.
[19:16] <Death_Star> 2 for the price of one
[19:19] <Death_Star> how are you going to communicate with the package
[19:20] <Death_Star> ?
[19:25] <phatmonkey> still unsure
[19:25] <phatmonkey> consult james aboutt that
[19:25] <phatmonkey> I think I'll start with a simple package
[19:25] <phatmonkey> with just a phone
[19:25] <phatmonkey> I really want to get something up there
[19:26] <phatmonkey> we've had various ideas about other things
[19:28] <Death_Star> I have talked with james about using a wifi disk with tracking, if you guys are all working together maybe working together to make comms standard could be a good idea.
[19:30] <phatmonkey> yes
[19:30] <phatmonkey> I know a guy who's all into satellite tracking and things
[19:30] <phatmonkey> I'll chat to him about it
[19:30] <phatmonkey> too!
[19:31] <phatmonkey> he has a giant satellite in his back garden that can track satellites that aren't in a perfect geostationary orbit.... that sort of person!
[19:31] <phatmonkey> a giant dish rather...
[19:32] <Death_Star> do you know what frq's the dish can pick up?
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[21:53] <Death_Star> Good night guy talk to you all later.
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