highaltitude.log.20060328

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[09:12] <jcoxon> hey :-D
[09:12] <defy> heyhey :)
[09:14] <jcoxon> so you going for a gps->gumstix->gnokii->mobile phone approach?
[09:14] <defy> I'm going to try get packet radio working on the gumstix
[09:15] <jcoxon> oooo cool
[09:15] <jcoxon> wish i could use radio...
[09:17] <defy> im hoping to stay in touch with it for most of the flight
[09:18] <jcoxon> very good plan
[09:18] <jcoxon> i'm actually involved in two projects now
[09:18] <defy> yea?
[09:18] <jcoxon> my pegasus project which will continue with hte phone system
[09:19] <jcoxon> and my newly assembled university project
[09:19] <jcoxon> where we intend to explore radio but not ham as its illegal here
[09:19] <jcoxon> (as in to put ham radio on balloons - silly law)
[09:20] <defy> i was thinking of using the radio + gps to send cords back to a base station that auto align some wifi gear and try to hold a solid high bandwidth link....but thats risking the whole, too complicated area
[09:20] <defy> its illegal there? where abouts are you?
[09:21] <jcoxon> UK
[09:21] <defy> ah true
[09:21] <jcoxon> some people are trying to chang the law
[09:22] <jcoxon> we think we might have found a frequency we can use
[09:22] <defy> no cb bands you can use? thats pretty weird
[09:22] <jcoxon> the licencing laws are really old
[09:23] <jcoxon> right i'm going to have to go
[09:24] <jcoxon> but do pop into this channel occasionally
[09:24] <jcoxon> cys
[09:24] <jcoxon> cya*
[09:24] <defy> will do, :) thanks
[10:20] <jcoxon> defy, back now :-D
[10:21] <jcoxon> just seen what you said on #gumstix, i personally haven't done anything on autonomous gliders but quite a few people here have
[10:21] <jcoxon> phatmonkey is building one right now
[10:22] <jcoxon> (if you look in my links section of my site i have a few links to people
[10:22] <jcoxon> )
[10:26] <defy> yea I did find a couple of glider projects off of your links, very cool stuff
[10:26] <defy> i scored some free rotation rate gyros a while back and have been trying to find a good project for them
[10:33] <defy> not sure if gyros are the best way to go for stabilizing though
[10:44] <jcoxon> not my field
[10:45] <jcoxon> :-D
[10:45] <jcoxon> i use parachutes
[10:46] <defy> hehe, ill do the same for my first launch at least
[10:47] <defy> http://defy.net/balloon/ < the page for mine, still very much in progress, and still quite messy
[10:47] <jcoxon> ooo yes i've read you site already :-D
[10:48] <jcoxon> looking good
[10:49] <defy> cool :) yours helped inspired my attempt at doing it here in nz, the photos on your site are awesome
[11:00] <jcoxon> thanks
[11:00] <jcoxon> shame about pegasus II
[11:00] <jcoxon> will suceed with pegasus III
[11:09] <defy> yea, for sure
[13:03] <borism> i'm into building computer controlled plane
[13:17] <jcoxon> hey borism
[13:21] <jcoxon> bbl
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[17:15] <jcoxon> hey phatmonkey
[17:15] <phatmonkey> hey
[17:16] <phatmonkey> if I'm going to get a phone, what phone do you suggest?
[17:16] <phatmonkey> I want my gsm terminal ont he other end
[17:16] <phatmonkey> to automaticallly receive
[17:16] <jcoxon> not sure exactly what you mean
[17:16] <jcoxon> is that which phone for the payload?
[17:16] <phatmonkey> what phone do you suggest for the payload
[17:16] <phatmonkey> yes
[17:16] <jcoxon> nokia
[17:16] <jcoxon> as you can use gnokii software
[17:16] <phatmonkey> do they all use the same serial interface?
[17:16] <phatmonkey> yeah
[17:17] <jcoxon> not sure
[17:17] <jcoxon> i've used both 5110
[17:17] <jcoxon> and 6310i
[17:17] <jcoxon> 5110 is a brick but reliable - used it for pegasus I
[17:17] <phatmonkey> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOKIA-5110-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ9118517181QQcategoryZ3312QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[17:17] <phatmonkey> 99p, not complaining
[17:17] <jcoxon> well mine survived 66,000ft
[17:17] <jcoxon> and worked
[17:18] <jcoxon> might use it for pegasus III
[17:18] <jcoxon> though i do have a 6310i avaliable
[17:18] <phatmonkey> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DATA-CABLE-FOR-NOKIA-6310i-6310-6210-6110-5110-CD-NEW_W0QQitemZ9703000434QQcategoryZ20366QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[17:19] <phatmonkey> looks like a usb-serial adaptor
[17:19] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, defy who is new is building a payload - wants to go the autonomous glider route eventually
[17:19] <phatmonkey> awesome
[17:20] <jcoxon> yeah it will be
[17:24] <jcoxon> still waiting for my gumstix
[17:24] <jcoxon> learning to program in the mean time
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[22:03] <phatmonkey> alrighty
[22:03] <phatmonkey> bought a really old 5110 off ebay
[22:03] <jcoxon> :-D
[22:04] <phatmonkey> and http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9703160709
[22:12] <jcoxon> oh of course you've got usb
[22:12] <jcoxon> :_D
[22:18] <phatmonkey> :D
[22:19] <phatmonkey> very very convenient
[22:19] <jcoxon> yes
[22:19] Action: jcoxon wants his new gumstix
[22:20] <phatmonkey> does that have usb?
[22:21] <jcoxon> no
[22:21] <jcoxon> but i don't actually need it for pegasus I
[22:21] <phatmonkey> yeah
[22:21] <jcoxon> III sorry
[22:21] <phatmonkey> just makes stuff so much simpler, hee hee
[22:22] <jcoxon> usb you mean?
[22:22] <jcoxon> nah what could be simpler then good old serial!
[22:23] <phatmonkey> find a modern digital camera that has a serial interface....
[22:23] <jcoxon> hehe
[22:23] <jcoxon> but who wants to link a camera to the flight computer!
[22:23] <phatmonkey> meeee!
[22:24] <jcoxon> (if you don't have a constant link!
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