highaltitude.log.20060304

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[08:42] <malgar> ohhh
[08:42] <malgar> Pegasus II launch 08.30GMT 04/03/06
[08:44] <malgar> http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=europe&TYPE=GIF%3ASKEWT&YEAR=2006&MONTH=3&FROM=0400&TO=0400&STNM=03354&STNN=Nottingham%2FWatnall
[08:44] <malgar>
[08:44] <malgar> wind isn't good
[08:44] <malgar> it blows toward the sea.....
[08:44] <malgar> and it is quite strong
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[09:02] <malgar> phatmonkey, wind isn't good
[09:02] <phatmonkey> oh dear
[09:03] <malgar> http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=europe&TYPE=GIF%3ASKEWT&YEAR=2006&MONTH=3&FROM=0400&TO=0400&STNM=03354&STNN=Nottingham%2FWatnall
[09:03] <malgar> it blows toward the sea
[09:12] <phatmonkey> yeah
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[09:12] <phatmonkey> hi!
[09:12] <jcoxon> hey
[09:12] <jcoxon> its gone
[09:12] <phatmonkey> wee
[09:12] <jcoxon> little worried though
[09:13] <jcoxon> it seemed to have lost gps lock as it was launched
[09:13] <jcoxon> oh well
[09:13] <jcoxon> will have to wait
[09:13] <phatmonkey> time for a cut down algorithm for pegasus III ;)
[09:13] <phatmonkey> oh dear
[09:13] <jcoxon> if the phone surivies we can at least track it
[09:13] <phatmonkey> are the winds alright then?
[09:13] <phatmonkey> yeah
[09:13] <jcoxon> umm
[09:14] <jcoxon> the winds are okay
[09:14] <jcoxon> jetstream isn't good
[09:14] <jcoxon> about 60mph
[09:14] <jcoxon> not good at all
[09:15] <jcoxon> oh well
[09:15] <phatmonkey> hmm
[09:15] <jcoxon> will wait and see
[09:15] <malgar> jcoxon, goooooooooo!!!
[09:15] Action: malgar hopes
[09:15] <jcoxon> right i have to dash
[09:16] <jcoxon> but the launch coordinate is
[09:16] <jcoxon> 52.191068 0.100578
[09:16] <malgar> ok
[09:16] <jcoxon> as soon as i make contact again (if it happens) will get back to you all
[09:16] <jcoxon> will post pictures/video later :-D
[09:17] <malgar> jcoxon, but what do you mean with "lost gps lock"?
[09:17] <malgar> no data from gps+sms system?
[09:17] <jcoxon> well i wasn't actually getting any gps data
[09:17] <jcoxon> just old data
[09:17] <malgar> ok
[09:17] <jcoxon> the sms part was working
[09:17] <malgar> ah
[09:17] <jcoxon> right will chat later
[09:17] <jcoxon> byeeeeee
[09:17] <malgar> ok
[09:17] <malgar> bye
[09:17] <malgar> have a good job
[09:18] <malgar> :)
[09:18] <malgar> work
[09:18] <malgar> ehm
[09:18] <malgar> :P
[09:18] <phatmonkey> bye!
[09:28] <malgar> uhm, launched from cambridge
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[10:05] <malgar> hi
[10:05] <malgar> :)
[10:05] <nextime> hi malgar, hello all :)
[10:16] <jcoxon> right am back
[10:16] <jcoxon> had some breakfast
[10:17] <malgar> hehe :)
[10:18] <malgar> no news at the time?
[10:24] <jcoxon> nothing yet
[10:24] <jcoxon> though will be at least another hour and a half
[10:24] <jcoxon> will have to see
[10:27] <malgar> where should it fall in your opinion? could be colchester/ipswitch?
[10:29] <jcoxon> ummm not sure actually
[10:29] <jcoxon> i'll have a think
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[10:31] <jcoxon> more towards chelsworth
[10:32] <jcoxon> hehe not chelsworth, chelm[10:35] <jcoxon> cool
[10:35] <jcoxon> also i have a backup plan
[10:35] <jcoxon> if the gps system breaks down (which i fear it has) then i can actually track the mobile phone to within about a mile
[10:35] <jcoxon> so there is quite a high chance of retrieval
[10:36] <malgar> i think that it goes south and then when is near "saffron walden" it should turn east
[10:37] <malgar> jcoxon, did you put a paper message in the box, in the case someone finds it?
[10:38] <jcoxon> yyup
[10:39] <malgar> do you have available pictures of the launch?
[10:39] <malgar> :)
[10:39] <jcoxon> yup
[10:39] <jcoxon> just uploading them now
[10:39] <malgar> cool
[10:42] <jcoxon> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/pictures/pegasus2/launch/
[10:43] <malgar> :DDDD
[10:44] <jcoxon> also uploading the launch video and preparation video (they are quite short) to youtube
[10:45] <malgar> what is the temperature at the launch site?
[10:45] <jcoxon> cold
[10:45] <jcoxon> very cold
[10:45] <jcoxon> didn't actually get round to fitting the temp sensors
[10:45] <jcoxon> just didn't have time
[10:46] <malgar> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/pictures/pegasus2/launch/IMGP0657.JPG ehehe
[10:46] <malgar> wonderful
[10:47] <jcoxon> yup thats it
[10:47] <jcoxon> a "Armless" payload
[10:47] <malgar> thank you for sharing all this.. irc updates, images... great
[10:48] <jcoxon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqgwHnqZHNA
[10:48] <jcoxon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I3FD3HnNgg
[10:50] <malgar> woaaah
[10:51] <phatmonkey> ooh
[10:52] <malgar> where are all your launch team now?
[10:53] <jcoxon> scattered
[10:54] <malgar> lol, nobody is interested in recovery?
[10:54] <jcoxon> though my parents and I will go and retrieve it
[10:54] <jcoxon> nothing we can do but wait!!
[11:23] <malgar> jcoxon, any news?
[11:23] <malgar> i'm a bit worried
[11:50] <jcoxon> 3 hours now
[11:50] <jcoxon> perhaps might get contact soon
[11:51] <malgar> pegasus 1 lasts less than 2 hours..
[11:52] <jcoxon> just have to see
[11:53] <malgar> are you in cambridge now?
[11:53] <jcoxon> yup
[12:24] <malgar> jcoxon, do you hope ina gps signal? now i think that now should be already received
[12:25] <jcoxon> its not looking good...
[12:25] <malgar> unfortunately not.. but perhaps someone will find it
[12:25] <jcoxon> indeed
[12:26] <jcoxon> its taught me some lessosn
[12:26] <jcoxon> lessons*
[12:26] <jcoxon> like not making it complicated
[12:28] <malgar> do you mean the cfgps ?
[12:28] <jcoxon> well having lots of things onboard
[12:38] <phatmonkey> better communication...
[12:38] <jcoxon> perhaps :-D
[12:38] <phatmonkey> my mobile in my pocket continually goes out of range
[12:39] <jcoxon> true
[12:39] <phatmonkey> I can't imagine a balloon landing in some remote place would be very reliable
[12:39] <phatmonkey> might be interesting to experiment with the standard consumer communication equipment we have avaliable to us
[12:39] <phatmonkey> available
[12:39] <malgar> what could be more powerful than a cellular phone but simpler than aprs?
[12:40] <phatmonkey> amplified 802.11b
[12:40] <phatmonkey> for example
[12:41] <phatmonkey> umm
[12:41] <phatmonkey> I'm sure there are other things
[12:41] <phatmonkey> satellite phones, but waay too expensive
[12:41] <phatmonkey> somebody suggested lasers
[12:41] <malgar> pff
[12:41] <phatmonkey> but that would probably be much too hard to line up
[12:42] <phatmonkey> well, impossible
[13:12] <phatmonkey> jcoxon: anything?
[13:14] <malgar> i think that we could wait even days.. imho gps is lost but someone could find the payload and phone to jcoxon
[13:15] <phatmonkey> what about the phone?
[13:15] <malgar> ?
[13:15] <phatmonkey> phone tracking
[13:15] <phatmonkey> is the phone still alive?
[14:15] <phatmonkey> news?
[14:16] <phatmonkey> jcoxon?
[14:31] <phatmonkey> eek
[14:31] <malgar> :\
[14:56] <jcoxon> hey
[14:58] <malgar> hey!!!!
[14:58] <jcoxon> nothing still
[14:58] <jcoxon> i fear the worst
[14:58] <malgar> :(
[14:59] <malgar> the worst is very probable in my opinion, but it isn't 100%
[15:00] <malgar> something like 70-80%
[15:01] <malgar> hope in fishermen :)
[15:03] <phatmonkey> :(
[15:03] <jcoxon> :d
[15:03] <jcoxon> oh well
[15:03] <jcoxon> there was always the risk
[15:03] <jcoxon> was a good launch
[15:03] <jcoxon> and i learnt a few new tricks
[15:03] <jcoxon> like using straps instead of coathangers for a frame
[15:04] <phatmonkey> shall we brainstorm some possible cheap and reliable communication possibilities?
[15:04] <phatmonkey> there must be a better way to do it
[15:04] <jcoxon> we could - though can't stay to long
[15:04] <malgar> nextime is a nerd in communication possibilities
[15:04] <malgar> :)
[15:04] <jcoxon> have to go to bed
[15:04] <jcoxon> didn't actually go to bed last night was working on it all night
[15:04] <phatmonkey> yikes
[15:05] <phatmonkey> it'll probably turn up in the end
[15:05] <jcoxon> neutrino (who supplied the geiger counter) is trying to adapt the radiosonde to transmit more
[15:05] <jcoxon> over its legal freq
[15:05] <phatmonkey> neat
[15:05] <jcoxon> (yeah it will)
[15:06] <jcoxon> Of course the best way is radio - though I'm not sure its going to ever be possible
[15:13] <malgar> have a good sleep
[15:13] <jcoxon> thinking about it - the reason for the loss of Pegasus II is the sea
[15:13] <jcoxon> hehe
[15:13] <jcoxon> going to have a long bath
[15:14] <jcoxon> i reckon it landed in the sea
[15:14] <phatmonkey> wow
[15:14] <phatmonkey> yeah
[15:15] <phatmonkey> just thinking how crazy it would be for somebody in america to find it washed up on a beach
[15:15] <phatmonkey> lol
[15:15] <malgar> next time you should made it waterporrf
[15:15] <malgar> proof
[15:15] <jcoxon> yeah
[15:16] <jcoxon> actually for Pegasus III (yes it will happen) I think i'm going to go back to basics
[15:18] <jcoxon> right time for that bath
[15:18] <jcoxon> chat to you all later
[15:18] <jcoxon> byeeeeeee
[15:19] <malgar> bye
[15:19] <malgar> :)
[15:22] <phatmonkey> bye!
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[18:03] <phatmonkey> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/pictures/pegasus2/launch/IMGP0657.JPG
[18:03] <phatmonkey> hehe, prepare for prank calls!!
[18:05] <jv> what does 'armless' mean?
[18:15] <phatmonkey> harmless ;)
[18:18] <jv> Oh :)
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[19:17] <malgar> jcoxon, did you sleep well? news?
[19:39] <jcoxon> no news
[19:40] <jcoxon> haven't slept yet
[19:40] <jcoxon> will do tonight
[20:04] <phatmonkey> :(
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[20:07] <jcoxon> phatmonkey, hows your glider going? haven't seen much in the way of updates
[20:07] <phatmonkey> hasn't really progressed much
[20:07] <phatmonkey> school work bogging me down really :/
[20:07] <phatmonkey> haven't got the time to get down and do anything
[20:07] <jcoxon> know the feeling
[20:08] <jcoxon> think i've decided on pegasus III
[20:09] <jcoxon> going to go back to basics
[20:09] <jcoxon> 200g balloon
[20:10] <phatmonkey> was the wind strong enough to blow it into the sea?
[20:10] <phatmonkey> I wouldn't be surprised if it's just out of range
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[20:12] <jcoxon> it seems like the jetstream could have carried it
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[20:28] <phatmonkey> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jac208/pegasus/pictures/pegasus2/launch/IMGP0657.JPG - prepare for prank calls if you start getting traffic ;)
[20:29] <icez> harmless:)
[21:19] <phatmonkey> for communication
[21:19] <phatmonkey> just speaking my crazy thoughts at the moment
[21:19] <phatmonkey> walkie talkies with modems?
[22:46] <jcoxon> enough range?
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